DE Williams commits to Vols

Three-star prospect the 18th member of 2011 class

Trevarris Saulsberry had grown impatient.

The Gainesville (Fla.) High defensive tackle, a Tennessee commitment since early August, had known for a long time that his teammate, 6-foot-4, 240-pound defensive end Jordan Williams, was a heavy lean to follow him to Knoxville. Williams, though, had to take his time and evaluate his options, which included offers from all around the SEC and a number of other teams from around the country.

That suspense ended Wednesday night, when Williams became UT’s 18th commitment for the class of 2011.

“I’m happy that he’s a Vol,” Saulsberry said.

Williams, a three-star according to both Rivals.com and Scout.com, had narrowed his offer list down to three schools: Tennessee, Oregon and South Florida. Williams visited Oregon last week on an official visit for the Ducks’ 43-23 win over Washington State.

The difference-maker, Saulsberry said, might have been UT defensive line coach Chuck Smith.

“He was talking about how much he loved Coach Smith and how the program was good for him and how he fits right into it,” Saulsberry said. “But he was still trying to weigh out his options with Oregon and USF.”

Williams, ranked the 44th best defensive end in the country by Rivals, is the Vols’ second defensive end and fourth defensive lineman to commit for 2011, joining Saulsberry, DE Juda Parker (Honolulu, Hawaii) and DT Allan Carson (Oxford, Ala.). He is the third Floridian to commit to the Vols.

Williams and Saulsberry will be among a number of current commitments and UT targets on campus for the Oct. 23 game at Neyland Stadium against Alabama.

“I’m excited to know that I actually have somebody I know on the team,” Saulsberry said. “Jordan is like my brother. He’s the closest person to me.”

Andrew Gribble can be reached at 865-342-6327.

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agarn writes:

Welcome to UT!

GBO!!

RatherBeDrivingaTitleist writes:

Thank you for choosing UT Jordan. The Big Orange Nation looks forward to having you in Knoxville next year.

jomo11 writes:

just another 3-star, when the Alabamas, Georgias and Floridas are getting commits from 4 and 5 stars ?....how can UT get better ?.....not going to happen

jomo11 writes:

Do you really think a kid from GAINSEVILLE. FLORIDA, if he were really good, Florida would let him out of their backyard ?????

bustervols writes:

in response to jomo11:

just another 3-star, when the Alabamas, Georgias and Floridas are getting commits from 4 and 5 stars ?....how can UT get better ?.....not going to happen

Look man, we don't need your negative comments. Go express your doubt somewhere else. We have enough to overcome as it is. Please.

volcrazy333 writes:

in response to jomo11:

Do you really think a kid from GAINSEVILLE. FLORIDA, if he were really good, Florida would let him out of their backyard ?????

we never offered randall cobb.... your point?

spvol writes:

JOMO can't talk trash about Bammer and Flarduh anymore, so he's trashing our recruiting. We'll be just fine, JOMO...and thanks for playing.

OldNumber7 writes:

in response to jomo11:

Do you really think a kid from GAINSEVILLE. FLORIDA, if he were really good, Florida would let him out of their backyard ?????

I think if Florida were really good, they wouldn't want out of their backyard.

heyitsme writes:

in response to jomo11:

Do you really think a kid from GAINSEVILLE. FLORIDA, if he were really good, Florida would let him out of their backyard ?????

Yes, considering a Tebow-less Meyer has reloaded with all those 5-stars and consensus top 3 recruiting classes just lost back to back games...

I'd say the kid and his decision may be symbolic for what's in store for Florida and Meyer for the next few years...

Juzkruzin writes:

in response to jomo11:

just another 3-star, when the Alabamas, Georgias and Floridas are getting commits from 4 and 5 stars ?....how can UT get better ?.....not going to happen

As I said last night rankings is what someone puts in a book, most never even see the kids there are ranking. Cromptom (loved him to death for trying) was A McDonald's All-American, but he didn't play one. What about the kid from Ole Miss that tore us up last year with 200 plus yards rushing. He was a thirty something 2 star. It's not the size of the dog, but the fight in the dog. Give me 44 three stars, where you can have a little depth, because there is going to be others on the team as well. Teach them discipline, focus, believe in themselves, conditioning, heart and believe in the coach and I wil show you a winning team every year. Look at our leading tackler on the team this year, he is a walk on, that should tell you something about stars. Come on you three stars we will take as many as we can, that serves two purposes one it adds depth and with the 1000's of players coming out of high school each year just to get a star is something, he has to be able to play some. You want stars, we had a 5 star, #1 recruit in the nation last year and really what did he do. Arron Foster was a two star recruit, and so was "Little Man" Stewart, they did ok, wouldn't you say?

steamboatticket#484773 writes:

in response to bankofdad3:

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I believe that we have 27 schollies available this year, 25 plus 2 backdated. That leaves 9 more.

heyitsme writes:

in response to jomo11:

just another 3-star, when the Alabamas, Georgias and Floridas are getting commits from 4 and 5 stars ?....how can UT get better ?.....not going to happen

Boy, just think what those 5-stars will get you... Alabama's repeat is now highly unlikely, Georgia has 4 losses, and Florida just lost back to back.

Looks like those 5-stars at Florida are ranked lower than 20, while those 3-stars at Boise State are ranked #2 and are likely headed to this year's BCS championship game.

Now what's your point?

OrangePride writes:

This is what I'm talkin about! Get those big defensive and offensive linemen signed up! Those two areas are our biggest issues this year and we need immediate help. And three stars is fine because we will coach them right up. GO BIG ORANGE!!

OldNumber7 writes:

in response to jomo11:

Do you really think a kid from GAINSEVILLE. FLORIDA, if he were really good, Florida would let him out of their backyard ?????

If Florida were really good, they wouldn't want out of their back yard.

volcrazy333 writes:

I like getting commitments no matter the stars. and i think this kid is gonna play just fine for us. but still. theres a lot of excitement when you pick up 4 and 5 stars. look at justin hunter. 4 star and hes our star player already. my philosophy is that if youre recruiting ranking is higher than your poll ranking its successfull. and right now were in teh top 25 so im content, but i still hope we pull out some nice late 4 stars. still got 4 months to go though

PUL4VOLS writes:

Keep on writing all you want Jomos and co. I am just excitedly waiting as we get more players who want to come here and play. I could care less who didn't want any of them if our coaches say they are guys we need. 2-3-4-5 stars or none for that matter just a heart to play. Keep um coming coaches.

mercuryvol writes:

in response to Juzkruzin:

As I said last night rankings is what someone puts in a book, most never even see the kids there are ranking. Cromptom (loved him to death for trying) was A McDonald's All-American, but he didn't play one. What about the kid from Ole Miss that tore us up last year with 200 plus yards rushing. He was a thirty something 2 star. It's not the size of the dog, but the fight in the dog. Give me 44 three stars, where you can have a little depth, because there is going to be others on the team as well. Teach them discipline, focus, believe in themselves, conditioning, heart and believe in the coach and I wil show you a winning team every year. Look at our leading tackler on the team this year, he is a walk on, that should tell you something about stars. Come on you three stars we will take as many as we can, that serves two purposes one it adds depth and with the 1000's of players coming out of high school each year just to get a star is something, he has to be able to play some. You want stars, we had a 5 star, #1 recruit in the nation last year and really what did he do. Arron Foster was a two star recruit, and so was "Little Man" Stewart, they did ok, wouldn't you say?

You got it,Kruzer,it ain't the stars,it's the fight in the dog.Plus,if Oregon is after him, that's all I need to know about his ability.

PureOrange writes:

in response to jomo11:

just another 3-star, when the Alabamas, Georgias and Floridas are getting commits from 4 and 5 stars ?....how can UT get better ?.....not going to happen

Maybe you should take some time off and support some team you actually like, since it is certain you do not like our team.

Most of us have faith in our coaching staff to know a little more than you do about who can play for us and who cannot.

This garbage is getting a little old.

keepitreal4vols writes:

in response to bankofdad3:

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huh?

nocleats writes:

Hit the books, make your grades, get in and live in the weight room, and become great.!

TommyJack writes:

in response to jomo11:

Do you really think a kid from GAINSEVILLE. FLORIDA, if he were really good, Florida would let him out of their backyard ?????

This board needs a call screener.

Witch_Doctors writes:

in response to VolnotHAMILTONfan:

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Witch Doctor say you think so much clearer Phil without all that powder sugar flowing thru your veins.
lazy coaches...jeez
Bones never lie.

WildVolFormation writes:

People act like these recruits are bad. Why is a top 10 team like Oregon offering a scholarship to a "bad" player? Let's allow the coaches do THEIR jobs and do OUR job as fans and support them!

lincolncovol writes:

Could care less what star he has, what I look at is the rank of the player. I know it is a hit and miss, as the stars are. The 44th best D.E. ain't to bad when you think about how many boys they have seen. Welcome young man to " God's Country".

FWBVol writes:

Here's another way to look at the star count. There are 120 BCS/Division I schools in the country. If each of those schools sign a full class of 25 players thats 3000 high school and JC players that will sign scholarships.

A 3-star player is considered one of the top 750 high school prospects in the country so any time we get a 3-star or higher we are getting a kid that is in the top quarter of prospects in the country.

Each 3-star is consider a legitimate DI player that will contribute with NFL potential.

I've said it many times before, recruiting is subjective. You can have two LBs that are both 6-2, 220 and run the 40 in 4.5 and one ends up a 5 star and the other a 3-star.

Derek Dooley and his staff will ultimately be judged by how many games they win, not how many stars are next to the names of the players they recruit. Knowing that, I'm can make a reasonable assumption that CDD will be going after the best player possible whether 5 stars or 3 stars.

GBO!

abnerPeabody writes:

in response to keepitreal4vols:

huh?

Don't be too surprised at what bankofdad3 posts.He has never posted anything worth reading.I have never understood anything he says.He is Mr.negative.

Classof72 writes:

This class doesn't have to be very good to improve our team. We have lots of empty spaces. Welcome, guys, and thanks for choosing to be Vols.

Timed_vol (Inactive) writes:

in response to jomo11:

just another 3-star, when the Alabamas, Georgias and Floridas are getting commits from 4 and 5 stars ?....how can UT get better ?.....not going to happen

ding-ding-ding, you win the dumba### award.

Timed_vol (Inactive) writes:

Even better than Bama, look at Iowa and how it does with '3-star' athletes.

tnoutlaw2001#228008 writes:

in response to VolnotHAMILTONfan:

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A quick glance at scout shows more than 5 vol commits with several SEC offers. The offers include every SEC school in the conference.

I only looked at 7 or 8 commits and easily debunked your statement.

Sorry

Skibum165 writes:

A three star recruit that qualifies and makes it to campus without a criminal record will always trump a 5 star recruit with baggage.
Before anyone responds to say this is not the case, call to mind Mr Brown who lives somewhere in Kansas and not Knoxville...

Stepchild_nFL writes:

in response to keepitreal4vols:

huh?

Funny, I was thinking the same thing.

OrangeThunder writes:

Right now we need depth...we can't worry about getting a bunch of 4 and 5 star recruits. Yeah, not gonna lie, it would be great to get them but I think in our current situation, 3 star commits to very much needed areas is definitely a starting point.

CincyOhVol writes:

in response to Juzkruzin:

As I said last night rankings is what someone puts in a book, most never even see the kids there are ranking. Cromptom (loved him to death for trying) was A McDonald's All-American, but he didn't play one. What about the kid from Ole Miss that tore us up last year with 200 plus yards rushing. He was a thirty something 2 star. It's not the size of the dog, but the fight in the dog. Give me 44 three stars, where you can have a little depth, because there is going to be others on the team as well. Teach them discipline, focus, believe in themselves, conditioning, heart and believe in the coach and I wil show you a winning team every year. Look at our leading tackler on the team this year, he is a walk on, that should tell you something about stars. Come on you three stars we will take as many as we can, that serves two purposes one it adds depth and with the 1000's of players coming out of high school each year just to get a star is something, he has to be able to play some. You want stars, we had a 5 star, #1 recruit in the nation last year and really what did he do. Arron Foster was a two star recruit, and so was "Little Man" Stewart, they did ok, wouldn't you say?

I'm so tired of hearing about the few guys who weren't highly ranked that did something with their careers.

Certainly, there are some players who are undervalued and others who are overvalued coming out of high school. But by and large the scouts usually get their picks right.

I think we can all agree that if you had 11 5-Star guys playing 11 3-Star guys the 5-Star guys would typically win.

With that said, why is it wrong to want UT to bring in the 4 and 5 star guys. Dooley isn't a great recruiter and this haul of 3-star talent proves it. We have fans who love it and go crazy every time we sign one.

I just don't know how folks can defend only signing 3-star guys and then get upset with those of us who would like 4 and 5 star players.

man_and_dog writes:

I wonder how many 4 and 5 star players are on Boise State's team?

CincyOhVol writes:

in response to man_and_dog:

I wonder how many 4 and 5 star players are on Boise State's team?

I wonder what conference their in?

Bogus writes:

We'll take him. Jacques Smith and Corey Miller are gonna need some backups for the next three years. Dude won't start anytime soon, but those two will need a breather every now and then. What we need now is a big run-stuffer in the middle (Gabe Wright, please!) to back up Montori and Marlon.

MidTennVol writes:

in response to steamboatticket#484773:

I believe that we have 27 schollies available this year, 25 plus 2 backdated. That leaves 9 more.

If we do have 9 left, every single one of them should go to huge, fast, strong and mean linemen. We need tall 300-pounders who can bench 550, run the 40 in under 5, dunk a basketball, and get straight A's. Nobody under 6'6" and 280.

Big, fast, strong, athletic and mean monsters.

volsfannsc writes:

in response to CincyOhVol:

I'm so tired of hearing about the few guys who weren't highly ranked that did something with their careers.

Certainly, there are some players who are undervalued and others who are overvalued coming out of high school. But by and large the scouts usually get their picks right.

I think we can all agree that if you had 11 5-Star guys playing 11 3-Star guys the 5-Star guys would typically win.

With that said, why is it wrong to want UT to bring in the 4 and 5 star guys. Dooley isn't a great recruiter and this haul of 3-star talent proves it. We have fans who love it and go crazy every time we sign one.

I just don't know how folks can defend only signing 3-star guys and then get upset with those of us who would like 4 and 5 star players.

I would think that Dooley is well qualified to determine who he needs at given positions. I base quite a few of my own decisions after some research and investigation, rather than let a "friend" recommend those decisions for me. Your constant nagging and whining is futile and based on only what you read. Maybe, just maybe, Dooley and staff have actually spoken with some of these recruits and seen first-hand what these guys are capable of providing. Personally, I'm not so hot on name brands, if it works for me and is a lot of bang for the buck, thats the product for me.

txvolsfan writes:

in response to jomo11:

Do you really think a kid from GAINSEVILLE. FLORIDA, if he were really good, Florida would let him out of their backyard ?????

Gators have lost 2 in a row and will lose more this year, so not the draw they used to be and they also are loaded at DL!!!
think b4 you post please

just4utk writes:

I'll take a 3 star player that our coaches have evaluated and who's hungry to prove himself over a 4/5 star player that thinks he is going to have everything handed to him because a sports writer at espn/rivals/scout says is great.

The7Maxims writes:

The kid runs a 4.4, and everybody knows that speed kills. I'm not sure if we've had this type of speed off the end since Leonard Little. I think he may be a pass rushing specialist, and Lord knows we need some sacks from our defensive line.

The7Maxims writes:

Plus, I've been reading on Scout that Juda Parker is likely to decommit and go to school in California. I'd rather be safe than sorry.

tennfan99 writes:

in response to bustervols:

Look man, we don't need your negative comments. Go express your doubt somewhere else. We have enough to overcome as it is. Please.

I agree, I would love to have all 4 and 5 star recruits but what is a 4 and 5 star recruit. It is an opinion. A lot of 4 and 5 star recruits do not pan out and do not fit a system. Plus a lot of 2 and 3 stars turn out to be great players. Don't doubt them yet, they have something those 4 and 5 star guys don't, they are a VOL now!

rabidvol1998 writes:

in response to volcrazy333:

we never offered randall cobb.... your point?

Brilliant Volcrazy333!!!

dragon18 writes:

in response to heyitsme:

Boy, just think what those 5-stars will get you... Alabama's repeat is now highly unlikely, Georgia has 4 losses, and Florida just lost back to back.

Looks like those 5-stars at Florida are ranked lower than 20, while those 3-stars at Boise State are ranked #2 and are likely headed to this year's BCS championship game.

Now what's your point?

You nailed it! A group of hungry 3 stars will seemingly outproduce a 4 and 5 star class. Rankings coming out of high school really don't seem to equate to success at the next level. There is a great deal of empirical data to support my position if you look at the ratings of most of the first 3 rounds of the NFL draft. 3 star players are incredible athletes and maybe more important are incredible football players that have some deficiency in a 40 yard dash time or some other correctible area.

VolfanKY writes:

in response to VolnotHAMILTONfan:

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Kyler Kerbyson: Alabama, Florida. A.J. Johnson: Alabama, Florida. Pat Martin: LSU. Alan Posey: LSU. Tom Smith: Recently offered by Florida. Justin Worley: Florida, LSU. Brian Randolph: Georgia. That's 7 commitments with offers from major SEC schools.

CarthageVol writes:

Recently when asked what he thought went wrong the last few years at FSU, Bobby Bowden said that they didn't properly evaluate some of the 4-5 star recruits that they signed. We know Fulmer had the same thing happen. We would ALL be excited if we had a 5 star come our way, but the truth is that these guys are still developing, growing, and learning (when you talk about DL). There is probably not a handful of DL in the country that can go into the SEC and dominate their first year. I would say most DL take time. But having the frame and speed are the uncoachable tangents.

Hugevolfan24 writes:

in response to jomo11:

just another 3-star, when the Alabamas, Georgias and Floridas are getting commits from 4 and 5 stars ?....how can UT get better ?.....not going to happen

you have got to be kidding me. well thank goodness you are not recruiting for us. you would use rivals and scout instead of evaluating talent yourself. they have not even done there final rankings if that is all you are going to go off of. that three may change to a four by the time NSD comes around.

TLepage writes:

in response to steamboatticket#484773:

I believe that we have 27 schollies available this year, 25 plus 2 backdated. That leaves 9 more.

it is my understanding that we are going to sign 28 this year (eddrick lofton included in that # if he can improve his test score)....

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