Work in China among reasons for UT canceling Italy trip

The Tennessee men's basketball team's overseas trip originally scheduled for this summer has been canceled, according to coach Cuonzo Martin and UT athletic director Mike Hamilton.

NCAA teams are allowed an overseas tour once every four years. The Vols had planned a trip to play in Italy this summer.

But that was before the 2011-12 schedule was complete, the team's NCAA woes and subsequent coaching change.

Hamilton said with UT scheduled to play in the Maui Invitational in Hawaii this November, an overseas trip would have been pushing things from a travel standpoint.

Martin expressed concerns about the overseas trip from the time of his hiring with the Vols for a couple of reasons.

For one, Tennessee would have trouble filling out a roster, particularly if either or both Scotty Hopson and Tobias Harris elects to keep their names in the NBA draft.

Secondly, Martin has committed to serving as an assistant to Purdue coach Matt Painter at the World University Games in China from Aug. 12-23 in Shenzhen, China. The training camp to select the 12-member USA team will be July 30-Aug. 8 at the U.S. Olympic Training Center in Colorado Springs, Colo.

"It will be better to wait a year for the trip because then we can get a feel for our players,'' Martin said. "When you take those trips, you're also building team camaraderie. It's always a beneficial trip, playing five or six games and getting the extra practice.''

Martin was head coach at Missouri State when he was selected to coach in the World University Games by USA Basketball chairman and Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim.

Martin said both Hopson and Harris would be eligible to try out for the team if they elect to stay with the Vols for another season.

Praise For Martin Hire: CBS basketball analyst Seth Davis, in a column for SI.com, rated Hamilton's hire of Martin as the "smartest" of the offseason.

"The Tennessee fans who are wailing that Hamilton didn't land a big name are living in an alternate universe,'' Davis writes. "Martin has a proven track record . . . he is a man of high character . . .

"If Tennessee fans give Martin the support he deserves instead of the derision he doesn't, he will reward them with a winner.''

Money McRae: UT radio commentator Bert Bertelkamp might be using his signature call for more baskets from freshman Jordan McRae this upcoming season.

McRae was among the more impressive players during spring workouts and appears to have grown an inch up to 6-foot-6.

"I've got a plan to do some things that some people might not expect from me,'' said McRae, who struggled to find playing time behind junior Cameron Tatum and outgoing senior Josh Bone this past season. "It doesn't matter to me if I play the two or the three.''

Martin said he likes what he sees from McRae.

"I think Jordan has the potential and the skill package to be a guy that can score the basketball,'' Martin said.

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TheOpinion writes:

USA USA USA.

VolNExile writes:

Works for me. Let him take the team that he works with this coming season.

Quote from the SI article:

"...Praise For Martin Hire: CBS basketball analyst Seth Davis, in a column for SI.com, rated Hamilton's hire of Martin as the "smartest" of the offseason.

"The Tennessee fans who are wailing that Hamilton didn't land a big name are living in an alternate universe,'' Davis writes. "Martin has a proven track record . . . he is a man of high character . . .

"If Tennessee fans give Martin the support he deserves instead of the derision he doesn't, he will reward them with a winner.''

Listen up, folks. ;)

MothershipChip writes:

Before everyone starts saying we are in trouble, remember that the writing had been on the wall for this to happen for a long time.

GiveHim6TDTennessee writes:

in response to DukeDeLuca:

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Money doesn't grow on trees my man. Besides, do you really think this has to do with Martin being selfish? It's a financial strain. Tell you what, since you're so concerned, why don't you fund the trip and coach them??

Snapshot writes:

in response to MothershipChip:

Before everyone starts saying we are in trouble, remember that the writing had been on the wall for this to happen for a long time.

For what to happen?

mocsandvolsfan writes:

A nice conservative decision. Let me see a trip to Hawaii or a trip to...where was that ?

mocsandvolsfan writes:

Really a trip to Italy would be great for the kids. Honey which do you want? I vote for Hawaii. The kids don't care either way I suspect.

KUBAKUBA writes:

in response to DukeDeLuca:

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Dear Duke,

I would have preferred you post, "FIRST" instead of that. It would have shown more intelligence.

BreweryVol writes:

in response to DukeDeLuca:

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I doubt anyone at the university promised them a trip to Italy, but with that being said we would not be able to take a full team anyway. We would be playing against professional basketball teams, and we risk injuring our players because we are playing short.

rocky_topper writes:

they should stay in town and practice foul shots.

MaxPower writes:

"I've got a plan to do some things that some people might not expect from me,'' said McRae.

Does that mean he is considering playing some defense this year?

BrassMonkey writes:

Yep leave the country in the middle of the first week of class of your first season at UT. I am sure the guys will get off to a good start with the head guy taking off to China for 2 weeks and returning jet-lagged for another 3-4 days. Nice support system.

Brillovol writes:

in response to KUBAKUBA:

Dear Duke,

I would have preferred you post, "FIRST" instead of that. It would have shown more intelligence.

like.

Outdated writes:

in response to MaxPower:

"I've got a plan to do some things that some people might not expect from me,'' said McRae.

Does that mean he is considering playing some defense this year?

McRae was not on the floor enough to tell what kind of defender he was in games..all we had to go by was what Pearl said about practice..I can't believe anyone on the team was as bad on defense as Hopson..against Belmont..Hopson was following his man around and lost him at the top of the key and his man was shooting a lay up..McRae left his man and blocked the shot..McRae's lack of playing time must've been due to something other than his ability to play basketball..he was obviously better than several who got more playing time...I have NO doubt Martin will get more from McRae than Pearl got from Hopson on defense..

alfrizzle097 writes:

in response to BrassMonkey:

Yep leave the country in the middle of the first week of class of your first season at UT. I am sure the guys will get off to a good start with the head guy taking off to China for 2 weeks and returning jet-lagged for another 3-4 days. Nice support system.

If only every student on the campus got the kind of academic support that would come from having four coaches directly invested in your academic sucess.

Face the facts. These guys are at least 18 years old and they have the same resources available that everyone not on a basketball team does.

The coach isn't responsible for little Timmy's test score. Timmy is. Sounds like Martin is willing to delegate to his assistants or hold players accountable.

I have no problem with Martin going to what amounts to a coaching seminar.

Now fans that are riding the coach before he's ever coached a game or put together a recruiting class that he had a full year to build.... nice support system.

volsfan74 writes:

I didn't understand the lack of PT for McRae, our biggest problem last year was scoring points and McRae is supposedly a scorer so I feel he should of played A LOT more especially down the stretch. I feel Bruce had other reasons for not playing him.
As for the Italy trip I would much rather have the team here in the states working on things and I would much rather have a good showing in the Maui Invit than playing Pro teams in Europe. Smart decision and by the staff and administration. GO BIG ORANGE

westknoxrepub writes:

So he's concerned about a thin roster so he doesn't want extra time and more games to work with them. . .the China excuse I get but that first one doesn't hold water.

Chris4Vols22 writes:

in response to Outdated:

McRae was not on the floor enough to tell what kind of defender he was in games..all we had to go by was what Pearl said about practice..I can't believe anyone on the team was as bad on defense as Hopson..against Belmont..Hopson was following his man around and lost him at the top of the key and his man was shooting a lay up..McRae left his man and blocked the shot..McRae's lack of playing time must've been due to something other than his ability to play basketball..he was obviously better than several who got more playing time...I have NO doubt Martin will get more from McRae than Pearl got from Hopson on defense..

McBee is, by far, our worst defender.

GoVols025 writes:

in response to westknoxrepub:

So he's concerned about a thin roster so he doesn't want extra time and more games to work with them. . .the China excuse I get but that first one doesn't hold water.

Your logic leaps are really quite comical.

Chris4Vols22 writes:

in response to bartlett79:

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Wow. Just wow.

vol88 writes:

Kinda stinks for the kids.

BrassMonkey writes:

in response to alfrizzle097:

If only every student on the campus got the kind of academic support that would come from having four coaches directly invested in your academic sucess.

Face the facts. These guys are at least 18 years old and they have the same resources available that everyone not on a basketball team does.

The coach isn't responsible for little Timmy's test score. Timmy is. Sounds like Martin is willing to delegate to his assistants or hold players accountable.

I have no problem with Martin going to what amounts to a coaching seminar.

Now fans that are riding the coach before he's ever coached a game or put together a recruiting class that he had a full year to build.... nice support system.

Not all 18 year olds are on scholarship at UT. Let's see how letting the player's be responsible for themselves works out.
The truth is, at this level, it rarely does. This coach has proven nothing at UT and until he does any deviation away from his immediate coaching and mentoring duties at the university that pays him should be closely scrutinized. I can count about 25 of the next 90 days that he will not be on the job at UT.

murrayvol writes:

in response to DukeDeLuca:

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Please say you're joking.

murrayvol writes:

in response to Chris4Vols22:

Wow. Just wow.

I'll add a wow to that.

murrayvol writes:

in response to BolivarBob:

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I agree with you and Seth.

martinvol34 writes:

in response to BrassMonkey:

Not all 18 year olds are on scholarship at UT. Let's see how letting the player's be responsible for themselves works out.
The truth is, at this level, it rarely does. This coach has proven nothing at UT and until he does any deviation away from his immediate coaching and mentoring duties at the university that pays him should be closely scrutinized. I can count about 25 of the next 90 days that he will not be on the job at UT.

So f'n what. He's gone for the next 25 out of 90 days. So f'n what. He can't practice with the kids anyway. There are trees falling, tsunamis and all sorts of natural disasters. Get a life.

born2ride writes:

Seems like our new coach would rather get publicity for himself at the World University Games in China rather then helping his own team gain more experience by playing in Italy, huh?

the58vol writes:

Zo Vols!!!

the58vol writes:

Zo Big Orange!!

CoverOrange writes:

I see this as a missed opportunity for extra practice when all the other teams are at home eating doritoes on the couch. Martin could have easily been replaced at the World Games.

STstatefarmVOLS writes:

in response to born2ride:

Seems like our new coach would rather get publicity for himself at the World University Games in China rather then helping his own team gain more experience by playing in Italy, huh?

Really?? I know your comments are not worth responding too, however, that one is just ignorant.....Seems like if he is UT's coach (which he is) any publicity for himself would also translate to the University?? Seems like a very good idea to me. Plus the fact that he can't be practicing with the players anyway. WIN-WIN situation for everyone....well except for the Seniors that won't be able to go to Italy next year, lol

BrassMonkey writes:

in response to martinvol34:

So f'n what. He's gone for the next 25 out of 90 days. So f'n what. He can't practice with the kids anyway. There are trees falling, tsunamis and all sorts of natural disasters. Get a life.

Well then you might want to log off GoVols and get on the weather channel. I am here to talk UT sports. You might want to go have that Kiffin and Pearl embracing on a Power T tattoo lasered off your back too (after the storms). It gets so old hearing the "I'm really starting to like this guy", "He really has a plan in place", "He is a great public speaker", BS.
When our fans have talked about UT coaches the past 5 years we typically treat them like fat girl in high school that her friends are trying to set you up with. They give you the "she's so funny" and "she has such a great personality." That's when you know its time to run, to China if possible.

kcbigorngX writes:

in response to BrassMonkey:

Well then you might want to log off GoVols and get on the weather channel. I am here to talk UT sports. You might want to go have that Kiffin and Pearl embracing on a Power T tattoo lasered off your back too (after the storms). It gets so old hearing the "I'm really starting to like this guy", "He really has a plan in place", "He is a great public speaker", BS.
When our fans have talked about UT coaches the past 5 years we typically treat them like fat girl in high school that her friends are trying to set you up with. They give you the "she's so funny" and "she has such a great personality." That's when you know its time to run, to China if possible.

You come across somewhere between Glen Beck and Liberace.

kcbigorngX writes:

Apologies to Liberace.

Theo writes:

in response to kcbigorngX:

Apologies to Liberace.

Now that's funny.
Agree with this decision. Next year more kids will get the chance to go on a great trip to Italy. We just will not get the bang for the buck this year. Hopefully the Maui trip will make up a little for the seniors who will miss out.
Regarding Coach's schedule - are you kidding me with the complaining. It is great for UT to have our coach in these high profile situations not to mention an inside track for any of our guys - Tobias Harris - on potentially making the USA team.
It is also a wonderful opportunity for Zo to continue to learn and grow. Only the truly stupid think they already know everything there is to know about their field.

PeeEllthree writes:

in response to DukeDeLuca:

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By all means. I mean, nothing really changed with the program in the last year or so since the trip was planned. Never adjust or adapt to what the situation calls for. Always go with a decision from 2 years ago, regardless of circumstances. Very sound advice in this ever changing world for you youngsters.

kcbigorngX writes:

in response to Theo:

Now that's funny.
Agree with this decision. Next year more kids will get the chance to go on a great trip to Italy. We just will not get the bang for the buck this year. Hopefully the Maui trip will make up a little for the seniors who will miss out.
Regarding Coach's schedule - are you kidding me with the complaining. It is great for UT to have our coach in these high profile situations not to mention an inside track for any of our guys - Tobias Harris - on potentially making the USA team.
It is also a wonderful opportunity for Zo to continue to learn and grow. Only the truly stupid think they already know everything there is to know about their field.

It continually amazes me the number of cry babies that claim to be a part of our fan base.

They are even wormier than the trolls.

PeeEllthree writes:

in response to born2ride:

Seems like our new coach would rather get publicity for himself at the World University Games in China rather then helping his own team gain more experience by playing in Italy, huh?

Seems to me like he made a commitment and is sticking with it. Don't worry, you're not the only one that doesn't understand the concept.

murrayvol writes:

in response to born2ride:

Seems like our new coach would rather get publicity for himself at the World University Games in China rather then helping his own team gain more experience by playing in Italy, huh?

"our new coach"?? Don't think so.

murrayvol writes:

in response to CrippledCoon:

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Well played Crip. lol

VOLDoll writes:

in response to born2ride:

Seems like our new coach would rather get publicity for himself at the World University Games in China rather then helping his own team gain more experience by playing in Italy, huh?

LOL! Please tell me you're joking. The school just fired Bruce Pearl the coach that starved for publicity. What a joke.

vols2#227315 writes:

Good luck, we will never have a good basketball team untill we clean house, Hamilton and Cheek.

abnerPeabody writes:

in response to DukeDeLuca:

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Have you ever made promises you later found you could not fulfill? I have. So have most everyone else. Chill man.You will find life more enjoyable.

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