Who won? Offense says it did, defense says same

Scrimmage turns out to be competitive

UT tight end Mychal Rivera, left, runs past defensive back Brent Brewer during warm-up's before a scrimmage at Neyland Stadium on Saturday, August 20, 2011.  (AMY SMOTHERMAN BURGESS/NEWS SENTINEL)

Photo by Amy Smotherman Burgess

UT tight end Mychal Rivera, left, runs past defensive back Brent Brewer during warm-up's before a scrimmage at Neyland Stadium on Saturday, August 20, 2011. (AMY SMOTHERMAN BURGESS/NEWS SENTINEL)

Tyler Bray after Saturday's scrimmage

The offense claimed it had the edge.

The defense responded by pointing out its advantage in the second half.

With no clear edge for either side of the ball, the clear winner in the third and final scrimmage Saturday at Neyland Stadium was Tennessee.

After three weeks of work, that was exactly how Derek Dooley would have drawn it up as the Vols coach starts turning his attention away from training camp and on to preparation for the season opener against Montana in less than two weeks.

"I've kind of seen that all camp," Dooley said. "We haven't had a lot of those disaster days. We had a real bad one the other day on offense, and we had a rough night as coaches.

"But for the most part it's been a very competitive, equally competitive camp. That's what you want. The deeper we get as a team, the better recruits we keep bringing in on offense and defense, that's what you're going to have."

The Vols didn't have much of that balance through two scrimmages, turning the third into a rubber match of sorts.

But a draw worked just fine for a team trying to build some confidence and generate momentum heading into the season, particularly since pretty much everybody left the field with something to feel good about.

Quarterback Tyler Bray had his most efficient passing outing according to statistics provided by UT from the closed workout, completing 10 of his 20 attempts for 144 yards with a touchdown. Freshman running back Marlin Lane continued his push for early playing time this fall with 13 carries for 49 yards and a touchdown.

The Vols didn't have any eye-popping individual numbers on the defensive side of the ball, but Curt Maggitt and Austin Johnson both chipped in four tackles to help lead a unit that came up with some crucial stops in two-minute situations late in the scrimmage to finish on a high note.

Even recently converted defensive back Anthony Anderson added a highlight, turning the only pass from Nash Nance in the scrimmage into a one-handed touchdown from 10 yards out in the corner of the end zone.

"It was both ways today," Johnson said. "The offense really came out with a lot of intensity, they pushed the ball down on us. I think they put together some really good drives, they ran the ball really well. But I felt like we fought back, we came back in the second half and did a little bit better. That's what we've got to do, we've got to keep battling.

"I definitely think on both sides it was the best of the three. We had the first one, they had the second one, today was a little bit of us both having good things. We've just got to keep working and get ready for Montana."

That date — Sept. 3 — is starting to creep up for UT, and while there are a couple practices left early in the week before game preparation officially begins, the focus is beginning to sharpen on the Grizzlies.

And after three weeks of battling each other to a stalemate, the Vols are clearly ready for a different opponent.

"I don't know how the defense feels, because I like to feel we win that battle every time," Bray joked. "As far as the offense went, this was the best of the three. The line blocked great, we made the throws, made the catches and made the runs. That was the difference today from the other two scrimmages.

"(The defense) can look at it however they want. We're both getting better, and that's all that matters."

TENNESSEE FOOTBALL SCRIMMAGE STATISTICS

Scoring Plays

Palardy 37 field goal.

Dallas 5 pass from Bray. Palardy kick.

Lane 2 rush. (No PAT)

Juin 2 rush. (No PAT)

Anderson 10 pass from Nance. Palardy kick.

Toney 7 rush. Rhome kick.

Palardy 37 field goal.

Rushing (No.-Yds.-TD-Long) – Jaron Toney 10-83-1-28; Marlin Lane 13-49-1-12; Tauren Poole 7-28-0-12; Reggie Juin 10-17-1-10; Tyler Bray 2-4-0-5; Da’Rick Rogers 1-2-0-2; Justin Worley 1-(-6)-0-(-6); Matt Simms 2-(-16)-0-(-5).

Passing (Att.-Comp.-Int.-Yds.-TD-Long) – Tyler Bray 20-10-0-144-1-28; Matt Simms 8-3-0-51-0-35; Justin Worley 8-3-0-0-17-11; Nash Nance 1-1-0-10-1-10

Receiving (No.-Yds.-TD-Long) – Da’Rick Rogers 3-44-0-33; Justin Hunter 1-28-0-28; Channing Fugate 1-24-0-24; Anthony Anderson 2-16-1-10; DeAnthony Arnett 1-15-0-15; Vincent Dallas 2-12-1-7; Brendan Downs 1-12-0-12; Naz Oliver 1-11-0-11; Dakota Summers 1-11-0-11; Mychal Rivera 1-9-0-9; Tyler Drummer 1-5-0-5.

Defense – John Propst 7 tackles, .5 TFL (-1); Curt Maggitt 4 tackles, .5 TFL (-1); Austin Johnson 4 tackles, 1 QB hurry; Brian Randolph 4 tackles, 1 PBU; Marsalis Teague 3 tackles; Prentiss Waggner 3 tackles; Marlon Walls 3 tackles, .5 TFL (0); Shane Reveiz 3 tackles, 1 TFL (-3); Dontavis Sapp 3 tackles, .5 TFL (-1); Art Evans 3 tackles, 1 PBU; Maurice Couch 3 tackles, .5 TFL (0); Justin Coleman 3 tackles; Jordan Williams 3 tackles, 1.5 TFL (-14), 1.5 sacks (-14); Willie Bohannon 2 tackles, 1 FF; Rod Wilks 2 tackles, 1 TFL (-5), 3 QB hurries, 1 sack; Daryl Vereen 2 tackles, 1 QB hurry; Ben Martin 2 tackles, .5 TFL (0); Joseph Ayres 2 tackles, 1 TFL (-3), FR, .5 sacks (-3); Janzen Jackson 1 tackle; Corey Miller 1 tackle; Izauea Lanier 1 tackle; Nigel Mitchell-Thornton 1 tackle, 1 QB hurry; Trevarris Saulsberry 1 tackle; Arthur Jeffery 1 tackle; Brent Brewer 1 tackle, 1 PBU; AJ Johnson 1 tackle; Jacques Smith 1 QB hurry; Pat Martin 1 QB hurry; Byron Moore 2 PBU.

Field Goals – Michael Palardy 2-of-3, long 37; Chip Rhome 0-of-2.

Punting (No.-Avg.-Long) – Matt Darr 4-36.8-40; Michael Palardy 4-36.3-45.

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voloffaith writes:

Competition breeds excellence...at least in theory it does. Glad to hear team mentality from both sides of the line. Still edgy for each side ,but they are wanting both sides to improve as apparently they are seeing the big picture versus individualism or just offense/defense.

UTVOLSRROCKN writes:

Sounds good to me. Offense and Defense evening it up. Made progress on the ground game too. 14 days and "IT'S FOOTBALL TIME IN TENNESSEE!!! GBO!!

givehim6 writes:

Another big scrimmage in two weeks then we play a game a week later, then the real season starts, GO VOLS!

62vol writes:

Okay. No blown out body parts through the hard part of fall camp. Now, they should only get better and better. Clearly a more complete team than last year with more size, depth and experience. The wins will come! In years gone by, we seamed to destroy the team during fall practice. Dooley has savey and experience gained from serving on top coaching staffs both in college and the NFL.

Back in the day, our favorite cheer was
"Exlax, exlax, open up a hole,
go Vols, go Vols go!

Orangeblood13 writes:

Punch bite claw push nothin is won easy, go get em boys
Find some one and put em on their hind end

Gbo!

Ga_Dave writes:

14 days and counting, it's football time in TN! Like what I'm hearing from CDD, hope it all shows true on the field starting with Montana. I plan to be there for that game, making the drive to K'town. Hope 100,000 of my friends join me there!!!! GBO

tree_em_smokey writes:

Im liking Jaron Toney. I watched him play at Alcoa and he can play!
Season opens soon boys! GBO!!!

TennesseeForever writes:

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proud2btnvol (Inactive) writes:

Agree with Dead_Head, kicking game not there. A great kicking game can make or break a borderline team.

TennesseeForever writes:

As Bart Scott would say......CANT WAIT! Happy to see the O and D both getting better. Wonder if any Vols fans remember these games?
http://www.footballnation.com/content...
It's really all about developing that expectation to win every week out.

RashaadSalabeb writes:

Palardy and Darr are fine. The entire team is going to be fine. Look out Montana a train is headed your way. It's an Orange train!

Go Big Orange! Score and score often!

Londonjohn writes:

Although it's good to see the team's positive energy, I am beginning to wonder about Bray. Certainly, our db's and safeties would make any qb scratch his earhole, but he hasn't passed over 50% in any scrimmage since last season, and this while he enjoys the magical green shirt. Granted, he's a sophomore and we really don't have any All-Americans behind him, but his completion rates are borderline ridiculous. I just hope our punting team gets their act together, as we may be relying on them often.

jobrando#216494 writes:

in response to Londonjohn:

Although it's good to see the team's positive energy, I am beginning to wonder about Bray. Certainly, our db's and safeties would make any qb scratch his earhole, but he hasn't passed over 50% in any scrimmage since last season, and this while he enjoys the magical green shirt. Granted, he's a sophomore and we really don't have any All-Americans behind him, but his completion rates are borderline ridiculous. I just hope our punting team gets their act together, as we may be relying on them often.

Perhaps the VOLS secondary is very stingy. We will see.

Ironcity writes:

in response to Londonjohn:

Although it's good to see the team's positive energy, I am beginning to wonder about Bray. Certainly, our db's and safeties would make any qb scratch his earhole, but he hasn't passed over 50% in any scrimmage since last season, and this while he enjoys the magical green shirt. Granted, he's a sophomore and we really don't have any All-Americans behind him, but his completion rates are borderline ridiculous. I just hope our punting team gets their act together, as we may be relying on them often.

Bray average 1.4 yards per completion. Not sure you noticed but we no longer run the two yard out or the flair to the RB for minus two. If he throws a lot of Ints then maybe you should worry but with UT stretching the field your completion percentage will be lower. this attack will free up the run game and will also allow UT to throw underneath when it really matters

Ironcity writes:

I meant to say 14.4 yards per reception and 7.2 per attempt and that is really good.

keepitreal4vols writes:

in response to RashaadSalabeb:

Palardy and Darr are fine. The entire team is going to be fine. Look out Montana a train is headed your way. It's an Orange train!

Go Big Orange! Score and score often!

Palardy and Darr are not fine. 36 yards per punt is awful, and the long is only 40, 45 yards? Palardy seems to always miss a FG attempt. Field position is critical in big games.

tdvol1989 writes:

in response to keepitreal4vols:

Palardy and Darr are not fine. 36 yards per punt is awful, and the long is only 40, 45 yards? Palardy seems to always miss a FG attempt. Field position is critical in big games.

It is certainly fair to express concern about them. Palardy was supposed to be the #1 Kicker coming out of HS and Darr was supposed to be a boomer. I know we have been spoiled with Colquitts, but we are weak there now.

OrangePsyched writes:

Those Alcoa guys can play. They've knocked my Purple out of the state championship 2 yrs. in a row. Maybe we get them this year...anyway good to be on the same side as Toney. Glad this part of part of practice is over and we start concentrating on first game. Grizzlies will come out in front of large crowd with a lot of p and vinegar. We need to knock the taste out from the get and put them in their place. GBO!

Bigger_Al writes:

in response to Ironcity:

Bray average 1.4 yards per completion. Not sure you noticed but we no longer run the two yard out or the flair to the RB for minus two. If he throws a lot of Ints then maybe you should worry but with UT stretching the field your completion percentage will be lower. this attack will free up the run game and will also allow UT to throw underneath when it really matters

That would be 7.2 yards per ATTEMPT, and 14.4 yards per COMPLETION.

ProwlinAndGrowlinSmokeyDog writes:

Not necessarily a bad thing when the offense and defense are debating who did the better job...The coaches seem to be doing their jobs as far as preparing the team for the season, but there is no preparation like live action..No one will really no what the Vols can do until they get out on the field and play..I must say I do have a good feeling about this season and maybe a couple of good surprises in store..You just never really know, but can't wait until the season starts.

Smokey says only 14 more days until"FOOTBALL TIME IN TENNESSEE!!!"

lavette12389 writes:

wait until these guys get a chance to play someone else. they practice against each other, the same guys, day in and out. they know each others tendencies. once they get a shot to play someone else theyll feel the game come to them.

jjsteel writes:

I'm glad Bray got a haircut.

west_tn_volfan writes:

in response to keepitreal4vols:

Palardy and Darr are not fine. 36 yards per punt is awful, and the long is only 40, 45 yards? Palardy seems to always miss a FG attempt. Field position is critical in big games.

Without knowing the field position at the time of the punt, it's hard to tell if they're kicking well. They may have been punting to a short field a few times. It only takes one punt to a short field to make an average look pretty bad.

Ironcity writes:

in response to Bigger_Al:

That would be 7.2 yards per ATTEMPT, and 14.4 yards per COMPLETION.

You are correct my bad

xvolx writes:

The defense won 2-0 or the offense won 3-0

keepitreal4vols writes:

in response to xvolx:

The defense won 2-0 or the offense won 3-0

Huh? Did you ever figure out why we lost the LSU game?

joeltonvol writes:

I agree about Bray. It's not whining to be critical of a player or team anytime of the year, as long as you keep it in context. True, defenses are usually ahead of offenses this early, but I would like to see a higher %. UT's defense may be better this season than some people think, but I'm not sure it's at the same level of many he will play against. If he's completing 50% against UT's, how's he going to do against Alabama, LSU, etc.? I still think 8-4 is a real possibility, but there's nothing wrong with having some concerns if they seem legitimate.

joeltonvol writes:

I agree about Bray. It's not whining to be critical of a player or team at anytime of the year if you keep it in context. True, defenses are usually ahead of offenses this early, but I would like to see a higher completion %. Yes, UT's defense may be better this season than some may think, but I doubt they will be the same level as many they will play this season. If he's completing 50% or less against UT's defense, how will he do against Alabama, LSU, etc.? I still think 8-4 is a real possibility, but there's nothing wrong with having concerns if they seem legitimate.

punkin writes:

in response to Witch_Doctors_Daddy:

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It's 5:00 am. Time for you to restock the beer cooler and quit playin on the Internet.

xvolx writes:

in response to keepitreal4vols:

Huh? Did you ever figure out why we lost the LSU game?

The way I saw it, poor defense in the last minute, interception in OT and a bad rule. I wouldn't be surprised if the rule change doesn't cost us a game this year.

iowavol writes:

in response to Dead_Head_Vol:

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How many punts were from inside the 50? 36 ypp could be good.

volaboard writes:

in response to BIVOLAR_BEAR:

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The only kicker I remember named Hentrich played an important role in UT football history, but did not play for UT. The Hentrich I remember was a punter/place kicker for Notre Dame and played a lead role in "The Miracle in South Bend."

hamneggs writes:

The media is barred from srimmages and most practices. How do we gauge anything until week three? I'm just glad we haven't had significant injuries and hope that continues. I believe we will be pleasantly surprised after week three.

CroKev writes:

in response to Ironcity:

I meant to say 14.4 yards per reception and 7.2 per attempt and that is really good.

I've never heard the stat "yards per attempt" before.

SevenT writes:

in response to Londonjohn:

Although it's good to see the team's positive energy, I am beginning to wonder about Bray. Certainly, our db's and safeties would make any qb scratch his earhole, but he hasn't passed over 50% in any scrimmage since last season, and this while he enjoys the magical green shirt. Granted, he's a sophomore and we really don't have any All-Americans behind him, but his completion rates are borderline ridiculous. I just hope our punting team gets their act together, as we may be relying on them often.

Bray may be the most talented SEC QB....time will tell

Huttdawg100 writes:

I'm not worried about Bray. Dooley has been rather outspoken about guys not performing as well as he'd like, i.e. David Oku, Cody Pope, and Zach Rogers. If Dooley was unhappy with Bray, he would've said it.

The thing is, Bray performed fairly well as a freshman against South Carolina and UNC. Both of those teams have excellent defensive coordinators and coaches (had in the case of UNC.) He wasn't great, but we saw some raw talent that was very impressive. And Chaney's nothing to sneeze at in dealing with quarterbacks. Let's see how Bray's developed. He clearly looks more like a leader based in the videos posted by KNS.

keviningeorgia writes:

in response to west_tn_volfan:

Without knowing the field position at the time of the punt, it's hard to tell if they're kicking well. They may have been punting to a short field a few times. It only takes one punt to a short field to make an average look pretty bad.

Good point.

RashaadSalabeb writes:

in response to west_tn_volfan:

Without knowing the field position at the time of the punt, it's hard to tell if they're kicking well. They may have been punting to a short field a few times. It only takes one punt to a short field to make an average look pretty bad.

So true...there's also this thing called hang time. Some of the best punters in the NFL had towering punts not always the longest punts. These two guys didn't get all of their recognition out of high school being bums. It will be fine...mark my words!

Go Vols!

Ironcity writes:

in response to CroKev:

I've never heard the stat "yards per attempt" before.

Its actually more important then completion percentage. One of the weaknesses of the Cutcliff era was all the short passes that amounted to short run plays.

sameolvolalum writes:

No injuries of note and pleased coaches will equal appreciable results come Sept. 3rd.....not qb stats and punting #'s from a scrimmage. It takes more than a couple of punts to derive a demonstrative average. Plus, does anyone know Palardy's fg range when he only tried 37 yarders yesterday? If CDD's happy, then we're probably ok. He'd definitely let us know what's not working well.

Witch_Doctors writes:

in response to Witch_Doctors_Daddy:

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Witch Doctor say you must have confused your Craigslist M4M posting for the whines you usually post on a the sports board. Witch Doctor notice you always post about men in drag.....Witch Doctor say please try to stay classy and less trailer park as THIS is a sports-board.
Bones never lie.

VolGrad writes:

CroKev: "I've never heard the stat "yards per attempt" before."

IRONCITY: "Its actually more important then completion percentage. One of the weaknesses of the Cutcliff era was all the short passes that amounted to short run plays."

???... yards per attempt is more important than completion percentage? Cutcliffe's weakness?

Not sure what you are trying to say there, Ironcity; however, here are a couple of Cutcliffe's strengths at Tennessee: Tennessee's points per game average (offensive production) and Tennessee's winning percentage (over 80%). In light of these two strengths, I'm not sure how short passes were a Cutcliffe weakness.

Go Vols!!!

Ironcity writes:

in response to VolGrad:

CroKev: "I've never heard the stat "yards per attempt" before."

IRONCITY: "Its actually more important then completion percentage. One of the weaknesses of the Cutcliff era was all the short passes that amounted to short run plays."

???... yards per attempt is more important than completion percentage? Cutcliffe's weakness?

Not sure what you are trying to say there, Ironcity; however, here are a couple of Cutcliffe's strengths at Tennessee: Tennessee's points per game average (offensive production) and Tennessee's winning percentage (over 80%). In light of these two strengths, I'm not sure how short passes were a Cutcliffe weakness.

Go Vols!!!

You make some great points. I should have said Sanders instead of Cutcliff but the lack of a down field threat always killed us against UF and UA in the 2000 era. We as fans always blamed the receivers but the reality was we ran 5 yard outs and ins all day. I like the idea of going down field 6-8 times a game. That was lost in our offense in the 2000's and it showed.

888657 writes:

Tennessee will be fine on both sides of the ball. With little injuries during camp, I don't think it was a full effort. It's camp and a proven fact that coaches hold them back. 13 more days and I'll be there to support them. Go Vols!

In other news; Corey Smith has re-committed to Tennessee!

VolGrad writes:

in response to Ironcity:

You make some great points. I should have said Sanders instead of Cutcliff but the lack of a down field threat always killed us against UF and UA in the 2000 era. We as fans always blamed the receivers but the reality was we ran 5 yard outs and ins all day. I like the idea of going down field 6-8 times a game. That was lost in our offense in the 2000's and it showed.

You are right about it being Sanders, but I think it was more about a general lack of discipline on the offensive unit than "short yardage" throws. I mean, you have to take whatever the defense is giving you.

There was a severe lack of execution in critical moments during the Sanders' era. A lot of people blamed his playcalling, yet we were often able to move the ball downfield on our opponents. What made it so frustrating is that after demonstrating the ability to move the ball, we would fail to get it into the endzone for whatever reason. There were an inordinate number of dropped passes, failures to block on the WR screens, and fumbles on breakaway runs. That shows a lack of attention to the details on the OC's part.

Execution is what Coach Cut focused on. And that is demonstrated in his offensive production and team wins during those two years he returned after Sanders departure.

And CDD's focus on the details is what has me just a little bit excited about the team he is building right now.

Go Vols! Let's get it started!!!

GainesvilleVol1 writes:

Bray will be fine. Just wait till game situtations and you will will see an emerging All American. Srrimmage is just that, the defense knows the offense and the offense knows the defense. The ticker is counting down till "Football time in Tennessee"

GO VOLS!!!

roobomb writes:

in response to west_tn_volfan:

Without knowing the field position at the time of the punt, it's hard to tell if they're kicking well. They may have been punting to a short field a few times. It only takes one punt to a short field to make an average look pretty bad.

Exactly what I was thinking.

Egnaro_Lavan writes:

Coach Dooley is doing the best job of anyone. He is already better than General Neyland and will win more national championships than Bear Bryant. Anyone who doesn't know this doesn't know anything about football.

VolFanInTheBoro (Inactive) writes:

in response to Egnaro_Lavan:

Coach Dooley is doing the best job of anyone. He is already better than General Neyland and will win more national championships than Bear Bryant. Anyone who doesn't know this doesn't know anything about football.

looks like little gata z has another user id

tennvolsman19651965 writes:

in response to Londonjohn:

Although it's good to see the team's positive energy, I am beginning to wonder about Bray. Certainly, our db's and safeties would make any qb scratch his earhole, but he hasn't passed over 50% in any scrimmage since last season, and this while he enjoys the magical green shirt. Granted, he's a sophomore and we really don't have any All-Americans behind him, but his completion rates are borderline ridiculous. I just hope our punting team gets their act together, as we may be relying on them often.

While I agree with you about Bray, how would we all feel if he went 20-20 for 400 yards? We would all be wondering if we have a defense.

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