Rod Wilks, Brian Randolph trying to bolster depth at safety

Randolph, Wilks try to bolster depth at DB position

Vols football practice - Aug. 29, 2011

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Tennessee defensive back Rod Wilks (22) runs a drill at Haslam Field on campus during spring practice in March.

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Adam Brimer/News Sentinel Tennessee defensive back Rod Wilks (22) runs a drill at Haslam Field on campus during spring practice in March.

Brian Randolph

Brian Randolph

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Rod Wilks

Tennessee doesn't have another all-conference safety it can just slide into the lineup.

In fact, the Vols don't have another player the league coaches bestowed with All-SEC credentials last season anywhere on the roster now.

The dismissal of Janzen Jackson from the program certainly was a blow to the resume of its lineup given his standing as the only player named to either of the postseason teams as voted by conference coaches a year ago. But with another season ready to kick off at Neyland Stadium against Montana on Saturday (TV: PPV, 6 p.m.), the Vols don't have time to look back anymore as they move on without Jackson in the secondary.

"Well, we're not as good," UT coach Derek Dooley said after practice Monday. "I'd like to sugarcoat it, but when you lose an all-conference guy you're not as good back there. It moves Prentiss (Waggner) into a role that we didn't have him in, or didn't need him in. So you start getting stressed everywhere. That's just the way it is.

"Our program's better, our team's better, but we're not as good in the secondary."

The Vols still have enough options to do some tinkering at the back of the defense, even after losing another safety following the announcement that freshman Pat Martin has elected to transfer out of the program without ever playing a down.

With or without Martin, UT was going to move Waggner back to safety to fill the void left by Jackson, and it still has sophomore Brent Brewer returning at the other spot following his emergence late last season.

And while there's not much experience behind the starters, there doesn't appear to be much public concern about the backups after junior Rod Wilks and freshman Brian Randolph both moved a bit closer to significant roles with Jackson's departure.

"Those guys have both progressed in different ways," Dooley said. "Brian Randolph is a little bit like (cornerback Justin) Coleman. I think he's going to get better and better over the course of the season. He's just brand new, so he's not playing as fast as you'd like him to because he's thinking. The more he gets it, the better he'll play. He's a really smart, intelligent player and he's a physical player. He's going to be a good player for us.

"Rod's a guy that's been in the program, has gone through a lot of frustration I think from not playing. But he's had a great attitude and has shown a tremendous amount of improvement. We don't bat an eye putting him in the game."

Wilks isn't blinking either with an opportunity to make some sort of impact finally in front of him after three years mainly on the fringe for the Vols.

UT has struggled to find the best way to use Wilks since his redshirt season in 2008, experimenting with him as a receiver as a freshman, eventually settling on defensive back and leaving him with little to show for two seasons aside from work on special teams and a catch against Memphis as a freshman.

And while the Vols aren't planning for a blowout or taking the Grizzlies lightly based on their history of success in the Football Championship Subdivision, Wilks was obviously aware that a critical audition at safety could be coming for him and Randolph this weekend.

"Oh yeah, and we've got to stay focused and we've got to be ready to go in the game at all times," Wilks said. "You never know what's going to happen, and you get tired playing this game. They play 94, 95 reps a game — you can't keep going, you have to take a break some time. I've just got to be focused and ready to go on the field.

"Now I'm just looking forward to playing behind Brewer or behind (Waggner). When I get my chance, just go hard at it."

The list of guys ahead of them has gotten shorter, and that chance for Wilks and Randolph could be coming quickly.

Austin Ward covers Tennessee football. He may be reached at 865-342-6274. Follow him at http://twitter.com/Vols_Beat and http://blogs.knoxnews.com/ward.

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iadvol writes:

Good to see we have some depth..about time!

voloffaith writes:

in response to InDestruCtible:

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Thank you Dano....oh wait that was "bookem Dano!" Uh Commander Cody and His Lost Planet Caravan did ewe see they were starters? Nope! So the "stiffs" are backups. That means they aren't starters....Ross Pero wants to know "Are you with me InDe on this one?" You see by the charts if they aren't starters then they are backups....OK? If they were starters then they WOULDN'T be backups. Larry I think the charts clearly explain this so even InDe can get it. This totally invalidates his weak attempt at being disruptive again.

On topic,being as they are probaly 3rd string means experience is available for two games and hopefully not needed as much in game at Ben Hill stadium. That being said that injuries will not necessitate their forced entry into game.

VolGrad writes:

in response to InDestruCtible:

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Just because you're uninformed, you think the rest of the world is?

Funny.

mountainbrook writes:

in response to InDestruCtible:

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Yup. Flahrduh will be 6-7.

govols1234567 writes:

I've been curious to see Wilks for a while now. I almost forgot about him. He looked increadible when he was in highschool. I thought he would have made more of an impact by now. He is definitely a solid player

FEARinSEC writes:

in response to govols1234567:

I've been curious to see Wilks for a while now. I almost forgot about him. He looked increadible when he was in highschool. I thought he would have made more of an impact by now. He is definitely a solid player

Are you the guy everyone talks about on TOS? The one who got the legend of Rod Wilks started?
Heard a lot about you.

govols1234567 writes:

in response to FEARinSEC:

Are you the guy everyone talks about on TOS? The one who got the legend of Rod Wilks started?
Heard a lot about you.

TOS? Probably not... I think hats the first internet comment I have made about him

What is TOS?

tn_rockytop writes:

in response to InDestruCtible:

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you are not a vol fan so why youn here. And before you try to say so any vol fan as more optimisom than you beiatch.

tree_em_smokey writes:

in response to Witch_Doctors_Daddy:

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Witch doctor, the one true original
Witch doctor, your hero
Witch doctor, one who treats ailments caused by witchcraft
Witch doctor, is YOUR DADDY

VolFanInTheBoro (Inactive) writes:

in response to Witch_Doctors_Daddy:

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InDestruCtible aka Witch_Doctors_Daddy aka lil zz = obsessed with UT

voloffaith writes:

in response to Witch_Doctors_Daddy:

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Sorry imposter EWE missed one.....ewe ain't original. I'll give you 5 points for googling to get the data. Sad news is you need 6 to go to the next round......

orangecountyvols writes:

Vols,

Who's going to the game? Would be nice to hook up with the Vol fans there.

One thing's for certain, troll/Destructible won't be there lurking. He plays his games here on the computer while in his pajamas.

Nope, no trolls in the big house Saturday.......
thank goodness for some fresh air.

BigOrange93 writes:

When Rod Wilks pokes you on facebook you can feel it.

VOLliven2it writes:

It will be exciting to see the young guys who get to play Sat. and it should not be a close game. As for what happens the rest of the year, I can only guess and hope. I do look forward to this win then another and another for as many as we can get. I can see 7 almost sure wins with an outside chance to get an 8th. But we do not know what injuries will mean for young inexperienced players having to go in against seasoned SEC dudes. But I am believing we will look good in our first two games and maybe look better than expected in that third and first away game. So let's buckle in and get ready for the ride. FOOTBALL TIME IS ALMOST HERE VOL FANS!

orangehippi writes:

in response to mountainbrook:

Yup. Flahrduh will be 6-7.

Gater tail and cold beer,smokey liked it.fla season record 5 and who cares.

Orange_Scooter writes:

in response to InDestruCtible:

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You have been trolling this site for 6 years? How sad.

govols1234567 writes:

in response to Orange_Scooter:

You have been trolling this site for 6 years? How sad.

+1

We need a thumbs up button or something like it on this site for posts

DC_your_mom_called writes:

in response to InDestruCtible:

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We get it. You like Florida, and Florida is a good football team. Doesn't make you any less of a loser for feeling the need to post on a site called GoVols five times a day.

BruisedOrange writes:

[On the dismissal of Janzen Jackson...] "Our program's better, our team's better, but we're not as good in the secondary."

What a communicator! No cliche-cleated coach-speak from Derek Dooley. Is there a more articulate head coach anywhere? More colorful, maybe. But for straight information and bottom line evaluation he may be the best right now.

We've got the best of both worlds: an articulate head coach with a legitimate southern accent. Once our record improves enough to deserve the spotlight again, the sports networks are going to find excuses to "roll tape" on Dooley.

Result: parents and recruits around the country are going to give this program another look just because of what they hear from our head coach. I'm beginning to think getting Dooley was worth the wrong turn we took down Lane's cul-de-sac.

NOthgif writes:

This is a good thing for Tennessee to be building their depth. That was their problem last year. They were a first half team. Their lack of depth last year tired them out and the other team would take over and continue to pound. You can have all the 5 stars in the world like Janzen Jackson and Eric Berry, but if you don't build depth behind them then you are headed for a tough season. I would much rather have a team full of 3 stars with plenty of depth than a couple of 5 stars and no depth. That was USC's problem last year as well. We were full of 5 stars but had no depth. Other teams just pounded and pounded and wore us out. You guys will have a different team this year. You may have less "starred" players, but mark my words, they will be fresh and ready to play for 60 minutes. Same with my beloved Trojans. However, I digress and will continue to Fight ON!
Oh and good luck on your upcoming season. I will continue to follow you guys this year. Aren't you so happy? LOL

apd7081 writes:

I saw Wilks play a couple of games in high school and was impressed by him. Looking forward to seeing him in action for the Vols. If he's hung in there through all of the turmoil of the last three years, then maybe he's determined and will make an impact.

DC_your_mom_called writes:

in response to Witch_Doctors_Daddy:

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Same goes for you W_D_D. At least DC's posts are occasionally intelligent (which still doesn't make it any less pathetic that a Florida fan has to hang out all day every day on a site called GoVols). You on the other hand are just an embarrassment to the school you support.

Volunteer-Varmint writes:

in response to tree_em_smokey:

Witch doctor, the one true original
Witch doctor, your hero
Witch doctor, one who treats ailments caused by witchcraft
Witch doctor, is YOUR DADDY

Sick em boy!

You hit the nail on the head there.

Hey Witch Doctor...got any of your old voodoo dolls laying around? Place it in a desk chair surrounded by doritoes and schlitz cans in a basement. I'm sure you can get WDD to do whatever you want. Even cheer for the vols.

GBO!

VOL1972 writes:

Wilks was recruited by Fulmer -- not a great recruiting class (ranked 35th). It is not surprising he got lost in the shuffle with all the coaching changes. However, he has hung in there and has the talent (and more importantly the heart) if he's given a chance.

orangeman1 writes:

in response to BruisedOrange:

[On the dismissal of Janzen Jackson...] "Our program's better, our team's better, but we're not as good in the secondary."

What a communicator! No cliche-cleated coach-speak from Derek Dooley. Is there a more articulate head coach anywhere? More colorful, maybe. But for straight information and bottom line evaluation he may be the best right now.

We've got the best of both worlds: an articulate head coach with a legitimate southern accent. Once our record improves enough to deserve the spotlight again, the sports networks are going to find excuses to "roll tape" on Dooley.

Result: parents and recruits around the country are going to give this program another look just because of what they hear from our head coach. I'm beginning to think getting Dooley was worth the wrong turn we took down Lane's cul-de-sac.

That quote doesnt really make sense to me. "our team is better, but we're not as good in the secondary" What does that even mean. Isnt the secondary part of the team therefore the team would be not as good too?

DenverVol writes:

in response to govols1234567:

TOS? Probably not... I think hats the first internet comment I have made about him

What is TOS?

TOS = The other site, aka Volnation. Rod Wilks has taken on a 'Chuck Norris mystic' on the site after a guy who Rod went to high school with got on there and talked him up like he was the second coming. It's all in good fun and apparently Rod finds it funny as well. I'm looking forward to seeing #22 on the field.

It's been a long week already. I'm so ready for Saturday. Go VOLS!

Pompey writes:

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....book this jerk...in your ear!

orangeman1 writes:

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Again, why do you keep bringing up Fulmer. This has nothing to do with him. You seem to have a big chip on your shoulder about him . Thats for sure. I think you might be regretting him being fired or something or you wouldnt constantly be bringing him up when the conversation has nothing to do with him. My response was to a poster using Dooley's quote to make a point about his "straight talk". I am simply responding because saying the secondary isnt as good , but the team is better makes NO SENSE. Thats impossible. The secondary IS part of the TEAM. If its not as good , the teams not as good. I cant believe I am having to explain common sense to people. And dont give me this bull about the team is better without the distraction. If that were the case then you are basically saying Dooley was wrong to let JJ be a distraction for the last 8 months. I like Dooley but for goodness sake EVERYTHING the man says or does doesnt have to be gold. relax.

orangeman1 writes:

in response to VOL1972:

Wilks was recruited by Fulmer -- not a great recruiting class (ranked 35th). It is not surprising he got lost in the shuffle with all the coaching changes. However, he has hung in there and has the talent (and more importantly the heart) if he's given a chance.

Luckily there were a few good hits that will be contributors this year. Marlon Walls, P Waggner, Dallas Thomas, Tauren Poole, and Herman Lathers. Fowlkes and Bohannon will be good as backups for depth too. Add Art Evans, Vereen, and Ben Martin that were redshirted from the 07 class and whats left of the guys Fulmer recruited will be a great assett to the team. It is odd how so many younger guys are playing over the older ones. It makes you wonder if the 2 coaching changes didnt affect the motivation of the older ones.

BruisedOrange writes:

in response to orangeman1:

That quote doesnt really make sense to me. "our team is better, but we're not as good in the secondary" What does that even mean. Isnt the secondary part of the team therefore the team would be not as good too?

Dooley is saying "team" as in teamwork, togetherness, singularity of purpose--he's talking dynamics and intangibles, not raw athletic ability. The program is better because the standards of player conduct and commitment to the team have been elevated (or affirmed, dramatically).

I don't think Dooley was necessarily saying anything about JJ being a problem in the locker room, but maybe implying that he presented a constant distraction for players wondering if JJ would be able to keep his act together for the benefit of himself and the team.

It's a lot easier to be a tight knit team when you're not constantly questioning if your best player is about to damage the team's potential (and reputation) by giving in to temptations after practice. (Which implies that JJ probably had not brought his teammates "in" to help him stay out of trouble. If he'd surrounded himself with teammates who had his back, then the team would have been even tighter. So my guess is he didn't do that...)

treytn writes:

in response to orangeman1:

Again, why do you keep bringing up Fulmer. This has nothing to do with him. You seem to have a big chip on your shoulder about him . Thats for sure. I think you might be regretting him being fired or something or you wouldnt constantly be bringing him up when the conversation has nothing to do with him. My response was to a poster using Dooley's quote to make a point about his "straight talk". I am simply responding because saying the secondary isnt as good , but the team is better makes NO SENSE. Thats impossible. The secondary IS part of the TEAM. If its not as good , the teams not as good. I cant believe I am having to explain common sense to people. And dont give me this bull about the team is better without the distraction. If that were the case then you are basically saying Dooley was wrong to let JJ be a distraction for the last 8 months. I like Dooley but for goodness sake EVERYTHING the man says or does doesnt have to be gold. relax.

Good post and right to the point, orangeman1. When people can't discuss or debate their point, they like to defer to something else - ie, Fulmer, Kiffin.
I hope Dooley does well because it will mean UT is doing well, but Dooley still has that deer in the headlight look about him at times. I think some fans want Dooley to be perfect and he just isn't going to be. He first needs to learn how to win a game (LSU and North Carolina come to mind?)that there for the taking. Next he needs to learn to not giv preferential treatment to certain players (JJ come to mind?) that other players saw and didn't like.
We just need to be patient as Dooley learns on the job. The non conference high school teams he plays will help him this year.

johnlg00 writes:

in response to NOthgif:

This is a good thing for Tennessee to be building their depth. That was their problem last year. They were a first half team. Their lack of depth last year tired them out and the other team would take over and continue to pound. You can have all the 5 stars in the world like Janzen Jackson and Eric Berry, but if you don't build depth behind them then you are headed for a tough season. I would much rather have a team full of 3 stars with plenty of depth than a couple of 5 stars and no depth. That was USC's problem last year as well. We were full of 5 stars but had no depth. Other teams just pounded and pounded and wore us out. You guys will have a different team this year. You may have less "starred" players, but mark my words, they will be fresh and ready to play for 60 minutes. Same with my beloved Trojans. However, I digress and will continue to Fight ON!
Oh and good luck on your upcoming season. I will continue to follow you guys this year. Aren't you so happy? LOL

Well, the way you've been lately, we don't mind you following our team and even posting on here. No real reason why UT and USCw fans should pick on each other. After all, we aren't in the same conference or even the same region of the country. Any visitor who comes on here to discuss sports without negative agendas or a proclivity to call people names is welcome.

treytn writes:

in response to InDestruCtible:

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Randolph will be a household name for "toast" after this season.

orangeman1 writes:

in response to Navalorange:

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I dont need an explanation from you about common sense. You only see things the way you want to and wont let yourself see the truth. If the secondary isnt as good then the team isnt as good. PERIOD. No further explanation needed. You cant have it both ways. The team may be better off in the long run without the distraction, but thats what many of us said while Dooley was letting JJ jerk him and fans around by being secretive about his "personal issues" and quitting school and not practicing before the bowl. Why did Dooley let him back on the team if it was a distraction and the team would be better without him? If he believed that then he wouldnt have let him back on the team after missing so much time. You can spin it anyway you want , but letting JJ back on the team was a mistake. Especially if you are going to argue (like now) that the team is better off without him. If the team would really be better without him then why wouldnt the secondary? They are a part of the team. You cant have it both ways and how someone can say that the team is better, but the secondary is worse without JJ is definately not giving "straight talk". Dooley is not the one who was saying he was "straight talking". It was another poster, so I'm not criticizing Dooley for what he said. I am criticizing the fact that someone could think that what he said is straight talk. I know coach speak when I hear it. This has nothing to do with Fulmer. I like Dooley, but for goodness sake, he isnt the most perfect, best football coach alive. Its ok to not blindly defend everything the man says or does.

orangeman1 writes:

in response to BruisedOrange:

Dooley is saying "team" as in teamwork, togetherness, singularity of purpose--he's talking dynamics and intangibles, not raw athletic ability. The program is better because the standards of player conduct and commitment to the team have been elevated (or affirmed, dramatically).

I don't think Dooley was necessarily saying anything about JJ being a problem in the locker room, but maybe implying that he presented a constant distraction for players wondering if JJ would be able to keep his act together for the benefit of himself and the team.

It's a lot easier to be a tight knit team when you're not constantly questioning if your best player is about to damage the team's potential (and reputation) by giving in to temptations after practice. (Which implies that JJ probably had not brought his teammates "in" to help him stay out of trouble. If he'd surrounded himself with teammates who had his back, then the team would have been even tighter. So my guess is he didn't do that...)

See, Naval, this is well thought out , intelligent response without calling people Fulmerites and bringing him up when he has nothing to do with the situation. You are WAY too defensive and quick to jump to conclusions. Do you let minor things get you that upset all the time? Your blood pressure must be through the roof to be so confrontational.

treytn writes:

in response to orangeman1:

See, Naval, this is well thought out , intelligent response without calling people Fulmerites and bringing him up when he has nothing to do with the situation. You are WAY too defensive and quick to jump to conclusions. Do you let minor things get you that upset all the time? Your blood pressure must be through the roof to be so confrontational.

The "Fulmerite" comment from people just shows how juvenille and football ignorant they are. Most all would agree it was time for Fulmer to hand over the reins to someone else, but to try to belittle Fulmer for what he did for our program displays hate. I pray that Dooley can only match what Fulmer did.

orangeman1 writes:

in response to Navalorange:

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You obviously dont pay attention too well because my allegiance is and will always be to UT regardless of our difference of opinion about Fulmer. You are just making stuff up. PLEASE SHOW ME where I have trashed Dooley's intelligence. Matter of fact, I have said many times that he is very smart and I like him as coach. I couldnt say the same for Kiffin, but he was just another example of how fans like you supported everything he said or did and called people who didnt agree with how he was handling things Fulmerites or idiots...etc. Its the same old song with some of you. Support EVERYTHING the UT coach does or says(after Fulmer of course) and slam anyone that doesnt put them on a pedastal like you. And I wasnt even slamming Dooley for what he said. I was just stating that what he said didnt seem like straight talk like the other poster described it. How in the world you interpret that as me being a Fulmerite and not liking Dooley is beyond me. It actually shows that you are the one with the chip on your shoulder about Fulmer.

orangeman1 writes:

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Yea, that was a real slap in the face to Dooley to say it doesnt make sense to me how the team could be better while saying in the same breath that the secondary wont be as good. I can just see how offended you should be and how that shows I'm a Fulmerite. You are reading way more into things than is there and getting way too defensive about Dooley. Some people are just like that. They were the same with Kiffin, but turned out to be wrong. 90% of the fanbase supported Kiffin no matter what too, but just because I think Dooley disciplines about the same as Fulmer did is not a slam on Dooley. I stated I had no problem with the way he disciplines players. And that has nothing to do with this discussion anyway. I dont have any problems with Dooley, Its just the fans that think everything he says or does is so great and have already proclaimed him the next Bear Bryant.

orangeman1 writes:

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This response to treytn is another example of you going overboard about Fulmer. So this guy is a HUGE loser because he said most people would agree that it was time for Fulmer to go(which you agree with), and said that calling names and slamming Fulmer is juvenile(which it is)And sayin that he hopes Dooley can just match what Fulmer did(which would be a great accomplishment).
Maybe you are right that this poster is CSS, but from the tone of his posts and the point he made it doesnt look like it. I think you are just being way too defensive and jumping to conclusions.

BigBadVol writes:

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All that means is that you have been obsessed with the Vols for some time. There are people that can help with that type of thing. Mental illness is something that needs treatment.

treytn writes:

in response to orangeman1:

This response to treytn is another example of you going overboard about Fulmer. So this guy is a HUGE loser because he said most people would agree that it was time for Fulmer to go(which you agree with), and said that calling names and slamming Fulmer is juvenile(which it is)And sayin that he hopes Dooley can just match what Fulmer did(which would be a great accomplishment).
Maybe you are right that this poster is CSS, but from the tone of his posts and the point he made it doesnt look like it. I think you are just being way too defensive and jumping to conclusions.

I don't have any idea who this CSS is. I'm just me and new (as of yesterday) to posting on here. I was hoping to be able to have respectful conversations with people on here - even if we disagreed - but this navalorange guy just doesn't know how to do that. In his mind, Dooley is a god of sorts which tells me that he's a University of Dooley fan.....not a University of Tennessee fan. People like him are shallow, and not capable of interracting with anyone who doesn't agree with him 100% of the time.

orangeman1 writes:

in response to treytn:

I don't have any idea who this CSS is. I'm just me and new (as of yesterday) to posting on here. I was hoping to be able to have respectful conversations with people on here - even if we disagreed - but this navalorange guy just doesn't know how to do that. In his mind, Dooley is a god of sorts which tells me that he's a University of Dooley fan.....not a University of Tennessee fan. People like him are shallow, and not capable of interracting with anyone who doesn't agree with him 100% of the time.

And all of the arguing was brought about by me disagreeing with a poster that was saying what Dooley said was "straight talk". I wasnt even meaning to criticize Dooley, just asking how the team could be better if the Secondary is worse. And how someone would label that as "straight talk". Naval is just one of those guys that wanted anyone but Fulmer, and will defend that person no matter what. Many defended everthing Kiffin did too, just because he wasnt Fulmer. They were just so glad Fulmer was gone that they had no choice but to support everything the new coach did. In a way, I can see where they are coming from because of the whole idea of "he's our coach, dont say anything that can be percieved as negative" but its not all or nothing to me. I would bet Naval is a good guy that just wont say or agree with anything negative said about our coach now. I know people like that about politics too that cant admit their party can do any wrong. Noone is perfect including Fulmer or Dooley so obviously mistakes will and have been made by both. IMO Dooley is doing what it takes to get UT competitive with the rest of the league. Only time will tell if he can meet the high expectations of winning SEC championships on a regular basis like alot of UT fans have.

orangeman1 writes:

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You might be right. His comment after that called you a University of Dooley fan. Either he's been called a University of Fulmer fan before on here or he's read it on here before he joined. If he isnt your comment was a little over the top, but you will never see me defending css,zz, or dc because they are definately here just to stir stuff up. Actually, if they werent always bringing Fulmer up and making unfounded accusations about Dooley I would bet you would have more tolerance for real UT fans like me. I can assure you I wouldnt be bringing him up. No doubt you are a big UT fan like me and I cant wait to see what Dooley will do with this team. I hope he will finally shut the trolls up too.

voloffaith writes:

in response to orangeman1:

And all of the arguing was brought about by me disagreeing with a poster that was saying what Dooley said was "straight talk". I wasnt even meaning to criticize Dooley, just asking how the team could be better if the Secondary is worse. And how someone would label that as "straight talk". Naval is just one of those guys that wanted anyone but Fulmer, and will defend that person no matter what. Many defended everthing Kiffin did too, just because he wasnt Fulmer. They were just so glad Fulmer was gone that they had no choice but to support everything the new coach did. In a way, I can see where they are coming from because of the whole idea of "he's our coach, dont say anything that can be percieved as negative" but its not all or nothing to me. I would bet Naval is a good guy that just wont say or agree with anything negative said about our coach now. I know people like that about politics too that cant admit their party can do any wrong. Noone is perfect including Fulmer or Dooley so obviously mistakes will and have been made by both. IMO Dooley is doing what it takes to get UT competitive with the rest of the league. Only time will tell if he can meet the high expectations of winning SEC championships on a regular basis like alot of UT fans have.

So you are saying of the 59 comments how many are from the three of you going back and forth? 15+ probably...CSS may have reinvented himself. We can go to football articles in the next day or so and see if he surfaces. If not then our Vandygrad morphed into CSS will have morphed again yippee kay yay....

orangeman1 writes:

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I dont doubt that they will still be on here trying to start stuff, and I wish they could be ignored. When they bring up Fulmer its only for one reason-to get stuff started. Noone can deny that Fulmer had alot of successful years at UT, but he is 3 years removed, we have a coach that has integrity and intelligence finally, and things are looking up. If people cant see that then they are stuck in the past or are just wishful thinking. Dooley isnt perfect like any coach, but I'll take someone who is smart, has been around the game his whole life, and works hard with integrity any day. And thats what we have in Dooley. Man I cant wait till football season!!

treytn writes:

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You might be right. His comment after that called you a University of Dooley fan. Either he's been called a University of Fulmer fan before on here or he's read it on here before he joined. If he isnt your comment was a little over the top, but you will never see me defending css,zz, or dc because they are definately here just to stir stuff up. Actually, if they werent always bringing Fulmer up and making unfounded accusations about Dooley I would bet you would have more tolerance for real UT fans like me. I can assure you I wouldnt be bringing him up. No doubt you are a big UT fan like me and I cant wait to see what Dooley will do with this team. I hope he will finally shut the trolls up too.

I can't take credit for the "University of Dooley fan". I heard a guy call another guy that a few months ago. Both were UT fans by the way.
As far as naval, he and his opinions are irrelevant to me. I don't have much tolerance for spoiled whiners.
To each their own on their opinion of Dooley as a coach. I've played enough footbal, been around enough football, and coached enough football to know the game well enough to make informative opinions. But I don't think your opinion has to be the same as mine in order for us to have respectul discussions.
I hope Dooley proves me wrong because it's a win/win for any true Tennessee fan. I detested Kiffin but never once hoped Tennessee would lose under his tutelage. It saddened me when I saw what were supposed to be Tennessee fans actually hoping Tennessee would lose in 2008 just so they'd fire Fulmer.
With our schedule I think Dooley should win a minimum of 8 games if he's a good coach. 9 wins and I'd call him a very good coach. 7 wins would be cause for concern.

treytn writes:

in response to Others_Not_Receiving_Votes:

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Excellent commentary!!!

orangeman1 writes:

in response to treytn:

I can't take credit for the "University of Dooley fan". I heard a guy call another guy that a few months ago. Both were UT fans by the way.
As far as naval, he and his opinions are irrelevant to me. I don't have much tolerance for spoiled whiners.
To each their own on their opinion of Dooley as a coach. I've played enough footbal, been around enough football, and coached enough football to know the game well enough to make informative opinions. But I don't think your opinion has to be the same as mine in order for us to have respectul discussions.
I hope Dooley proves me wrong because it's a win/win for any true Tennessee fan. I detested Kiffin but never once hoped Tennessee would lose under his tutelage. It saddened me when I saw what were supposed to be Tennessee fans actually hoping Tennessee would lose in 2008 just so they'd fire Fulmer.
With our schedule I think Dooley should win a minimum of 8 games if he's a good coach. 9 wins and I'd call him a very good coach. 7 wins would be cause for concern.

I would agree that 8 wins would show me Dooley is a good coach and 9 wins would show he was a very good coach, however 7 wins wouldnt be a stretch considering we will only be favored in 6 games this year. It wouldnt necessarily be cause for concern, but more of a we'll have to wait to see how he does in 2012 when he's had 3 years of recruits coming in. Expectations will definitely be raised come 2012 to what they were in pre 08. Right now though its time to sit back and watch the season unfold. I am hoping Dooley surprises people and unites the fan base once again by proving he is a good coach. With his character all he needs to do is win and I think everyone will be behind him.

treytn writes:

in response to orangeman1:

I would agree that 8 wins would show me Dooley is a good coach and 9 wins would show he was a very good coach, however 7 wins wouldnt be a stretch considering we will only be favored in 6 games this year. It wouldnt necessarily be cause for concern, but more of a we'll have to wait to see how he does in 2012 when he's had 3 years of recruits coming in. Expectations will definitely be raised come 2012 to what they were in pre 08. Right now though its time to sit back and watch the season unfold. I am hoping Dooley surprises people and unites the fan base once again by proving he is a good coach. With his character all he needs to do is win and I think everyone will be behind him.

I'm not sure we'll be underdogs in 6 games this season. It's too early to tell where Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina will be ranked when we play them. Since we get Florida early i suspect we'll both be undefeated, yet neither will have played anyone of merit. Since it's at Florida, I assume they'll be favored though. But don't forget that Florida will has more youth and will be fielding a team even younger than ours. They have an unproven QB, and a new coaching staff with a new system. So this game is a tossup to me and very winnable. South Carolina has a head case at QB, and no depth behind him. Georgia has lost LOTS of players to injuries and dismissal. So that's two more games I feel are winnable. I'm still not sold on Arkansas with all the starters they have to replace, so this one would be a stretch. I see very little chance we can beat Alabama or LSU, but nothing is impossible. So, i see 8 victories there with an easier schedule overall from last year and "IF" we've improved any at all. This is Dooley's second year, so it's time for him to make his mark.

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