Darin Hinshaw expected to move to WR coach

Tennessee appears to have found a candidate to replace Charlie Baggett quickly, and it didn’t have to look outside the program.

That would still leave one vacancy for the Vols though, and the next move might take a bit more effort.

According to a source with knowledge of the personnel but not authorized to speak publicly, UT is expected to move Darin Hinshaw from quarterbacks coach to wide receivers coach, give offensive coordinator Jim Chaney responsibility for the quarterbacks and seek to hire a full-time assistant to handle running backs as the staff is shuffled slightly in the offseason.

The Vols don’t have a specific timeline in place for filling the job. But regardless of how long it might take, the expected emphasis on finding a running backs coach at least suggests what direction the staff is headed as it moves forward. The school has not formally announced Baggett’s retirement or any possible financial considerations at this point, and officials could not confirm a change in roles for Hinshaw.

Hinshaw spent the last two seasons in charge of quarterbacks for the Vols, but he brought three years of experience handling wideouts with him from his time at Memphis when Derek Dooley made him a part of his first staff at UT.

The Vols finished the season ranked No. 116 in the nation in rushing offense, averaging just more than 90 yards per game on the ground. Chaney was officially designated as the running backs coach in addition to his responsibilities as the offensive coordinator, though graduate assistant Chino Fontenette was heavily involved with the position.

With potential candidates perhaps participating in the postseason, a move might not be made until next month.

Among possible targets, preparations for a bowl game wouldn’t be a factor with recently fired Memphis coach Larry Porter. South Carolina running backs and tight ends coach Jay Graham, a former UT running back could emerge as a target for the Vols in the search as well.

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Ironcity writes:

Makes sense if Hinshaw can handle the move.

FiftyOne writes:

We need a running back coach today. No good recruit is coming to a school without knowing who his position coach will be.

fshnhol writes:

in response to Ironcity:

Makes sense if Hinshaw can handle the move.

What is Hinshaws background in being a QB coach??

fshnhol writes:

in response to Ironcity:

Makes sense if Hinshaw can handle the move.

OOPS! I mean WR coach.

NashvillePreds writes:

Hinshaw's extensive experience working with the coaching legend that is Andy McCollum certainly fills me with confidence.

VolMoment writes:

Hinshaw played QB and has been a QB coach in college. I would think a former QB would know a lot about wide receivers routes and technique.

SummerfieldVol writes:

Tell me about his best day as a wide receiver. He has none, I don't like the change. Hire a real wide receiver coach someone who has PLAYED receiver in college and not just sitting on the bench, Would prefer a NFL experienced wide receiver to coach my young just out of high school receivers , They are out there just go and get one.

eb502us#225637 writes:

How about hiring someone who has a clue to helping our kicker and punter as we without a doubt have the worst kicking game in the country.

Then again, just let him go out and recruit one for each position as right now, Palardy and Darr aren't worthy of even a walk on slot.

I can't stomach another season watching these two butcher the position.

UTKin1992 writes:

Musical chairs with a dysfunctional coaching staff? Brilliant!

utfan36 writes:

it would be nice to have Jay back coaching our running backs maybe he can get the runing game back like it was in the 90s

VolsUpsetYetAnother writes:

HIRE GRAHAM NOW! Great experience in NFL good RB coaching experience and a highly respected alum. GET HIM Dooley!!

MidTennVol writes:

in response to eb502us#225637:

How about hiring someone who has a clue to helping our kicker and punter as we without a doubt have the worst kicking game in the country.

Then again, just let him go out and recruit one for each position as right now, Palardy and Darr aren't worthy of even a walk on slot.

I can't stomach another season watching these two butcher the position.

You kind of read my mind about recruiting. Very odd that the no. 1 kicker and no. 1 punter are so poorly developed at this stage.

But I think we only have five spots left in recruiting. If it was me, I would go get the five biggest, fastest, meanest, strongest linemen I could find -- maybe even all of them OTs or OGs. We MUST find a running game and it starts with the offensive line.

I'm talking nobody under 6'5", 300 lbs. and slower than a 5.1. And somebody with the grades to stay.

But that's just me and I ain't a coach, just another fan.

jobrando#216494 writes:

Does he get the 400k Charlie was getting?

lemeshousomthen writes:

nothing will change to benefit til the coach is more than a disciplinary

agentorange writes:

you win with talent-- not coaching. you think jamal lewis, travis henry, travis stephens, onterrio smith, chuck webb, reggie cobb, charlie garner etc. needed a coach? those guys were barely able to spell their names and they were great backs. and they didn't change for the better when they got to the NFL b/c of some awesome coach.

tnoutlaw2001#228008 writes:

Man, they need to hire me.

Here is the plan,

Larry Porter- RB coach/recruiting coordinator

Tee Martin- WR coach

Hinshaw- Offensive Coordinator

Get rid of the dead weight over paid Chaney. Remember he is a KIFFIN HOLD OVER!

Hinshaw steps up, makes less money than Chaney, you make 2 great local hires. T. Martin has the rep and age for an up and coming UT guy.

Both Porter and Martin have been picked as 2 of the best recruiters in the Southeast region. Both have tons of ties to the state of Georgia.

This move would make us better, younger, save some money, or allow it to be spread around to the assistants, and we get a boost in recruiting, with ties to the southeast region.

Porter played and coached at Memphis, is from Georgia. Tee Martin is a legend on the hill and has been listed as one of the top up and coming recruiters in the SEC.

WIN WIN for everyone and the program, get it right Dooley or get out.

tnoutlaw2001#228008 writes:

in response to agentorange:

you win with talent-- not coaching. you think jamal lewis, travis henry, travis stephens, onterrio smith, chuck webb, reggie cobb, charlie garner etc. needed a coach? those guys were barely able to spell their names and they were great backs. and they didn't change for the better when they got to the NFL b/c of some awesome coach.

It took Peyton Manning chewing Jamals tail to make him better. Fact, Peyton told the coaches not to play Jamal until he learned how to pass block blitzing linebackers....true story!

tdvol1989 writes:

in response to tnoutlaw2001#228008:

Man, they need to hire me.

Here is the plan,

Larry Porter- RB coach/recruiting coordinator

Tee Martin- WR coach

Hinshaw- Offensive Coordinator

Get rid of the dead weight over paid Chaney. Remember he is a KIFFIN HOLD OVER!

Hinshaw steps up, makes less money than Chaney, you make 2 great local hires. T. Martin has the rep and age for an up and coming UT guy.

Both Porter and Martin have been picked as 2 of the best recruiters in the Southeast region. Both have tons of ties to the state of Georgia.

This move would make us better, younger, save some money, or allow it to be spread around to the assistants, and we get a boost in recruiting, with ties to the southeast region.

Porter played and coached at Memphis, is from Georgia. Tee Martin is a legend on the hill and has been listed as one of the top up and coming recruiters in the SEC.

WIN WIN for everyone and the program, get it right Dooley or get out.

Any plan that results in replacing Chaney is a good one. I like Hinshaw's intensity, but it is really hard to say he would be a good WR coach. But, as far as OC, here is the interview.

Coach Hinshaw, if offered the position of UT Offensive Coordinator, what are your thoughts on running the Wildcat in the Red Zone? If he says he thinks that is stupid, then he gets question #2. Any other answer and find someone else. Question #2 - Do you have any ideas on how to improve the running game? That's it. 2 questions.

I agree with Larry Porter. He is really good. I would pick him over Graham for now. I am not sold on Tee Martin.

lomas98 writes:

It's funny how we want a good coach to come in and lead these RB's, but Porter just got fired for not being a good coach. I know head coach at Memphis doesn't compare to a position coach, just think its funny what is classified as being a good coach.

On a positive note, I do think Porter or Graham would bring a lot to the table. Porter has a history of developing RB's all the way to his days at Oklahoma St. with Les Miles. He also has proven SEC recruiting ability and may have some ties to the Memphis area we have missed. Jay Graham would be a link to successful teams in the past and would bring credibility from a TN program standpoint on what it should be like to be a vol. He has consistently spoke to a bunch of high star RB recruits while at SC. I have been against just bringing in a former player to coach, (Al Wilson and Peyton Manning) are 2 names that always come up and to my knowledge neither has any coaching experience. I tend to think the Graham possibility would be a good decision. Hopefully one of the two will be considered and potentially hired.

What would it mean to the program if one of our own in Jay Graham turns us down???? Everybody says "go get ______", but it does take interest on the other side as well.

SmokeDog1972 writes:

in response to tnoutlaw2001#228008:

Man, they need to hire me.

Here is the plan,

Larry Porter- RB coach/recruiting coordinator

Tee Martin- WR coach

Hinshaw- Offensive Coordinator

Get rid of the dead weight over paid Chaney. Remember he is a KIFFIN HOLD OVER!

Hinshaw steps up, makes less money than Chaney, you make 2 great local hires. T. Martin has the rep and age for an up and coming UT guy.

Both Porter and Martin have been picked as 2 of the best recruiters in the Southeast region. Both have tons of ties to the state of Georgia.

This move would make us better, younger, save some money, or allow it to be spread around to the assistants, and we get a boost in recruiting, with ties to the southeast region.

Porter played and coached at Memphis, is from Georgia. Tee Martin is a legend on the hill and has been listed as one of the top up and coming recruiters in the SEC.

WIN WIN for everyone and the program, get it right Dooley or get out.

Porter played 2 years of high school ball in Georgia, two in Mississippi, so he has some old connections around the SE plus ties to Les Miles staff (if we need any additional assistants down the road). I played with him in Georgia. Was a super good guy with lots of commitment even at 17. Would love to see him on the staff at UT.

Volunatic writes:

in response to tnoutlaw2001#228008:

It took Peyton Manning chewing Jamals tail to make him better. Fact, Peyton told the coaches not to play Jamal until he learned how to pass block blitzing linebackers....true story!

So Peyton actually WAS responsible for the total lack of a running game against uf in '97?

jobrando#216494 writes:

If they cant hire outside wonder what that tells you the word is on coaches corner? Did Porter and Tee turn down offers as suggested by the media or were they never asked by UT?

VolFaninDC writes:

Does this mean Chaney is responsible for QBs "instead of" OC, or "in addition to?"

tennrich1 writes:

Some of the best wider receiver coaches are former quarterbacks....there's plenty...you figure them out...much like a catcher usually makes the best pitching coach....surely you folks knew that...CPF was an offensive lineman for pete sakes....

ProfessionalHandicapper writes:

This staff just gets worse and dont expect any big names to join this mess. Tee Martin and Porter both turned down the receivers coach. There is a reason UT hired from within, nobody wanted the job once again. This mess gets worse by the minute. Blow this thing up and start all over right this time. Other teams just landed Meyer, June Jones, Kevin Sumlin, Mike Leach while Ut sinks into the abyss with a coach that has never beaten one top 50 team in his career. Are you people really this blind? Kippy Brown was the best receivers coach UT ever landed and Hamilton screwed him and lied to him and hired Dudley.
Mike Martz is getting ready to quit the
Bears and he says College Head Coaching is a possibility. UT needs to offer him the job and send these WAC babies back home. And by the way Dikes took La Tech to an 8-4 record and a Bowl Game this year. La Tech will send Ut a big thank you card for Christmas.

FWBVol writes:

in response to 1BigOrangeCountryFan:

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David Cutcliffe never played quarterback so by the way you and others are thinking about Hinshaw, Cutcliffe shouldn't have been able to coach the Manning boys.

Many of the best pitching coaches in baseball never pitched past Little League, but are former catchers that understand the game.

As a former quarterback Hinshaw should be able to relate the quarterback thinking process to the receivers and get everyone on the same page.

Most people would agree that Kippy Brown was one of the best, if not the best wide receiver coach UT ever had, and what position did he play at Sweetwater High School and Memphis State? Oh yeah, quarterback.

kazoo writes:

You can coach up a lot of positions in football--most positions---but running back is the one position where coaching is NOT going to make a big difference. You can show RBs where the hold is supposed to be, and you can teach them to hold tightly to the ball, and hit a hole hard, but good RBs are born and not made.

revols21 writes:

They only made this quick announcement in order to keep the wr's in this year's class from panicking and jumping ship. I'd say most already have a relationship with Hinshaw and Dooley cannot afford to lose any 4*'s after a losing season.

snakeplissken writes:

I'm thrilled that we're keeping this staff intact and not replacing any of them since we saw so much progress under them during their second full season coaching the Vols. How many other staffs do you know who could have played Kentucky in a close loss in only their 25th game coaching together???

I know many college and NFL teams are pursuing our staff, especially Heistand since his offensive linemen at Tennessee set all sorts of offensive records blocking for the run this year. Let's just hope Dooley can keep them all!!!!!

sbigdaddy writes:

I don't want to be so critical but darn. We ate TENNESSEE When will the HEAD COACH figure out we need to hire a WR coach that played it or at least coached it and was successful. here we go again with subpar coaching decisions. Thank God we are hiring a full time running backs coach... bet our running game improves by 100% next season because of it. But darn, we need to look at kicking coaching, punting coack too. MEMO to DD, this is year three you better throw in the kitchen sink if you want to win so spend money on getting the right coaches in or else your doomed. We have the players come on coach darn!!!!! THINK!!! THINK!!!!! Darn it!!

Colliervol writes:

I don't know about any of the other positions but I believe we need a new O-Line coach for sure. Those guys have great size and lots of potential and haven't gotten any better at run blocking since the day they arrived on campus. If you can't run, you ain't winning in this league. You can have all the fancy passing numbers you like but it's being able to run and stopping the run that wins in the SEC. Note the two teams playing for the BCS title.

jobrando#216494 writes:

in response to ProfessionalHandicapper:

This staff just gets worse and dont expect any big names to join this mess. Tee Martin and Porter both turned down the receivers coach. There is a reason UT hired from within, nobody wanted the job once again. This mess gets worse by the minute. Blow this thing up and start all over right this time. Other teams just landed Meyer, June Jones, Kevin Sumlin, Mike Leach while Ut sinks into the abyss with a coach that has never beaten one top 50 team in his career. Are you people really this blind? Kippy Brown was the best receivers coach UT ever landed and Hamilton screwed him and lied to him and hired Dudley.
Mike Martz is getting ready to quit the
Bears and he says College Head Coaching is a possibility. UT needs to offer him the job and send these WAC babies back home. And by the way Dikes took La Tech to an 8-4 record and a Bowl Game this year. La Tech will send Ut a big thank you card for Christmas.

Makes you wonder if Porter and Tee were actually asked and indeed turned it down. I doubt we will ever know. We need a RB coach and kicking coach. I think Tyler and DaRick are just playing backyard ball rather than from a playbook. I think that showed up in the Georgia game. Just an opinion. No facts.

ivyvol writes:

in response to SummerfieldVol:

Tell me about his best day as a wide receiver. He has none, I don't like the change. Hire a real wide receiver coach someone who has PLAYED receiver in college and not just sitting on the bench, Would prefer a NFL experienced wide receiver to coach my young just out of high school receivers , They are out there just go and get one.

+1 Must have credible coaches who have been there/done that and have a coaching resume which includes recognizable names of highly successful "pupils."

NeylandWest writes:

in response to lomas98:

It's funny how we want a good coach to come in and lead these RB's, but Porter just got fired for not being a good coach. I know head coach at Memphis doesn't compare to a position coach, just think its funny what is classified as being a good coach.

On a positive note, I do think Porter or Graham would bring a lot to the table. Porter has a history of developing RB's all the way to his days at Oklahoma St. with Les Miles. He also has proven SEC recruiting ability and may have some ties to the Memphis area we have missed. Jay Graham would be a link to successful teams in the past and would bring credibility from a TN program standpoint on what it should be like to be a vol. He has consistently spoke to a bunch of high star RB recruits while at SC. I have been against just bringing in a former player to coach, (Al Wilson and Peyton Manning) are 2 names that always come up and to my knowledge neither has any coaching experience. I tend to think the Graham possibility would be a good decision. Hopefully one of the two will be considered and potentially hired.

What would it mean to the program if one of our own in Jay Graham turns us down???? Everybody says "go get ______", but it does take interest on the other side as well.

In my opinion, Manning is a coach that happens to play QB and he does both jobs really well.

jobrando#216494 writes:

in response to Colliervol:

I don't know about any of the other positions but I believe we need a new O-Line coach for sure. Those guys have great size and lots of potential and haven't gotten any better at run blocking since the day they arrived on campus. If you can't run, you ain't winning in this league. You can have all the fancy passing numbers you like but it's being able to run and stopping the run that wins in the SEC. Note the two teams playing for the BCS title.

I like to think the RB's just cant slip into the holes they make. It's just a glaring differance in the way are RB's tried to run compared to schools with a decent run. This tap dancing is strange. Who is teaching that?

Ayres_Hall writes:

I'd guess the combined coaching experience of all the experts on the comments board to be... really close to ZERO.

But don't let that stop ya, boys.

derainey36#303427 writes:

how about alvin harper? he's doing well at south carolina state

Volunatic writes:

in response to sbigdaddy:

I don't want to be so critical but darn. We ate TENNESSEE When will the HEAD COACH figure out we need to hire a WR coach that played it or at least coached it and was successful. here we go again with subpar coaching decisions. Thank God we are hiring a full time running backs coach... bet our running game improves by 100% next season because of it. But darn, we need to look at kicking coaching, punting coack too. MEMO to DD, this is year three you better throw in the kitchen sink if you want to win so spend money on getting the right coaches in or else your doomed. We have the players come on coach darn!!!!! THINK!!! THINK!!!!! Darn it!!

You ate Tennessee?

sbigdaddy writes:

in response to Colliervol:

I don't know about any of the other positions but I believe we need a new O-Line coach for sure. Those guys have great size and lots of potential and haven't gotten any better at run blocking since the day they arrived on campus. If you can't run, you ain't winning in this league. You can have all the fancy passing numbers you like but it's being able to run and stopping the run that wins in the SEC. Note the two teams playing for the BCS title.

Agreed. WOW!! So glad you can see that. they have tons of potential and size.... coaching is the problem. WOW!!! Good post!

D60 writes:

I bet by next year at this time we won't be having this discussion,a new staff will be in place

underthehill writes:

in response to snakeplissken:

I'm thrilled that we're keeping this staff intact and not replacing any of them since we saw so much progress under them during their second full season coaching the Vols. How many other staffs do you know who could have played Kentucky in a close loss in only their 25th game coaching together???

I know many college and NFL teams are pursuing our staff, especially Heistand since his offensive linemen at Tennessee set all sorts of offensive records blocking for the run this year. Let's just hope Dooley can keep them all!!!!!

Any competent coach with more than one offer would have to consider the possibility he might only have a job for one year if he came to TN..There is no reason to believe the current staff will be retained after next season and lots of reasons to believe the will not..

RockyToptoNeyland writes:

I think we need to get the best rb coach in the country, and one that is in our reach. We need to get Illasia Tuiaki from Utah State, just look at how he has turned around that running game there, and he's only in his 20's!! This guy has got something no other coach does. If not him, then larry porter wouldn't be awful. South Carolina rb coach....forget it, and we might need to also look at Eddie Faulkner at NIU.

VolinMem34 writes:

Boy, all you need is a keyboard and some semblance of a brain to post. If folks did their research or used their memory, they would know that Hinshaw was the WR Coach at UM under Tommy West. In fact, some outlets reported his hiring at UT as the "WR Coach." Dooley evidently had other ideas at the time.

I am not using this as a post to prop him up as WR Coach because no one knows at this point. But, I think he actually has more experience as a WR Coach than he does as a QB Coach. People will criticize these days just to see their own writing. The power of the internet.

jt45 writes:

Sorry to hear Chaney is gonna be here another season, I sure hope he isn't calling the shots on offense again next year. Looks like its gonna be more of the same and then they all leave together.
I hope Im wrong but Iv'e seen no reason so far from Chaney to believe otherwise.

us43137415#376444 writes:

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

WHY ARE THEY NOT CONSIDERING TEE MARTIN FOR THE WIDE RECEIVERS COACH?

True, Tee only has two years under his belt as a coach DOING THE EXACT SAME JOB at Kentucky, but he just happened to coach Randall Cobb, one of the best receivers Kentucky every had.

Tee also led the Vols to the VERY FIRST BCS Championship.

EVER.

Please tell me, somebody's head is in the sand on this one.

HIRE TEE MARTIN.. PAY HIM WHAT HE WANTS.
GET HIM BACK HOME.

NOW!!!!!!!!!!!

jjsteel writes:

in response to fshnhol:

What is Hinshaws background in being a QB coach??

QB's toss the pumpkin to receivers. DUH!

VolinMem34 writes:

I guess people forget that Hinshaw was the WR Coach at UM under Tommy West. In fact, some outlets reported his hiring as the "WR Coach." I think he may have more experience there than as a QB Coach. But, people tend to blur the facts and forget them when putting forth criticism. The power of the internet.

AllforTenn writes:

in response to SummerfieldVol:

Tell me about his best day as a wide receiver. He has none, I don't like the change. Hire a real wide receiver coach someone who has PLAYED receiver in college and not just sitting on the bench, Would prefer a NFL experienced wide receiver to coach my young just out of high school receivers , They are out there just go and get one.

Absurd post. You think you know too much. Coaches change positions all the time.

DwayneElizondoMountainDewHerbertCamacho writes:

Jim Chaney is now going to handle QBs? Oh great....I mean, he's earned it with the amazing way he handled the RBs this season. WHY DO WE HAVE TO HAVE CHANEY DOUBLE DUTY SOMETHING ON THE OFFENSE????

utvols1 writes:

in response to SummerfieldVol:

Tell me about his best day as a wide receiver. He has none, I don't like the change. Hire a real wide receiver coach someone who has PLAYED receiver in college and not just sitting on the bench, Would prefer a NFL experienced wide receiver to coach my young just out of high school receivers , They are out there just go and get one.

More stupid moves by a staff without a clue. How can we wait on a RB coach and hope to recruit anyone decent. Or a WR coach with zero experience. More BS from Dooley. I'd rather take my lumps and get a solid coaching staff -and fire all these knuckleheads - and deal with the instability of another coaching change. Dooley isn't the right guy and if we don't do it now we'll have to do it next season so why wait? Let's get this mistake behind us (thanks Mike) and move on!!

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