Tennessee upset by Austin Peay, 74-70

Austin Peay hits final seven shots to earn first victory in series

Tennessee head coach Cuonzo Martin looks on as the Vols play the Austin Peay Governors at Thompson-Boling Arena in Knoxville, Tenn., Saturday, Dec. 10, 2011.  Austin Peay won 74-70 over Tennessee.  (ADAM BRIMER/NEWS SENTINEL)

Photo by Adam Brimer, copyright © 2011

Tennessee head coach Cuonzo Martin looks on as the Vols play the Austin Peay Governors at Thompson-Boling Arena in Knoxville, Tenn., Saturday, Dec. 10, 2011. Austin Peay won 74-70 over Tennessee. (ADAM BRIMER/NEWS SENTINEL)

Tennessee handed Saturday's game to Austin Peay, literally and figuratively.

Scores of turnovers, lackluster defense and an unwillingness to move the ball on the perimeter led to the Vols losing to Austin Peay for the first time in school history after entering the game as a 12-point favorite.

The Governors hit their last seven shots in capping a successful late-game rally, scoring a 74-70 victory before a season-low crowd of 14,692 at Thompson-Boling Arena.

In addition to it being Austin Peay's first victory against the Vols in the nine-game series, it was only the second game the Ohio Valley Conference Governors (2-9) have won this season.

UT (3-5) turned the ball over a season-high 18 times, leading by as many as 12 points in the second half before failing to score after going up 70-66 with 2:23 remaining.

"We lost control,'' said UT center Kenny Hall, who scored 12 points and pulled down 10 rebounds, including a career-high seven offensive boards.

"It looks bad when you see yourself out there doing things you don't work on. It's going to show up when we watch the film.''

UT coach Cuonzo Martin didn't need to review the film to share his impression.

"I thought there was a lot of individual play,'' a somber Martin told the media after the game. "They (Austin Peay) shot 73 percent in the second half; I think that's taking pride in guarding your man and not consuming yourself on the offensive end of the ball.

"When you are concerned with how many shots you got, and the shots aren't falling, it could be a long night.''

In short, some of the Vols got selfish with the ball and allowed their offensive struggles to affect their defensive effort.

Jeronne Maymon led UT with 18 points on 8-of-10 shooting and pulled down nine rebounds in addition to scrapping for two steals. Jordan McRae had 14 points and three steals.

Josh Terry was the hero for Austin Peay in the program's historical win, scoring a game-high 20 points including a reverse layup with 1:02 left that gave the Governors their first lead since midway through the first half.

TyShwan Edmondson scored 19 points including a floater with 15.7 seconds left that gave Austin Peay a three-point cushion that held up when UT point guard Trae Golden missed a 3-pointer in the final seconds.

The Vols were 5-of-19 shooting beyond the 3-point arc; Skylar McBee was 3-of-6, but Golden struggled, going 1-of-5 shooting the three and 1-of-9 from the floor.

"I didn't get a lot of touches in the second half; I didn't think about it during the game,'' said Maymon, who had 14 first-half points as UT took a seemingly comfortable 37-30 lead into intermission. "Now, I'm looking at it like, 'why wasn't it getting into the paint when we had so many points there?' "

The Vols, who struggled in the early season near the basket, outscored the Govs in the paint 28-8 in the first half, but were outscored in the interior in the second half 16-14.

Austin Peay center John Fraley had something to do with that. Fraley, a three-year starter making his first appearance since suffering a severe concussion in the Govs' season-opening 80-71 loss to Middle Tennessee State, had 12 points, five rebounds and two blocked shots.

"He makes a big difference for us on the boards, and just his presence out there is important,'' Austin Peay coach Dave Loos said. "This is really huge for us going forward. It's hard to explain ... we had not been shooting it well.''

Maymon wore a look of disbelief throughout the postgame interview session.

"We already had enough motivation, with a lot of people doubting us,'' Maymon said. "Right now, we're not making a good point for ourselves.''

UT returns to action at 9 p.m. on Wednesday at the College of Charleston. The Cougars (7-1), beat the Vols in Knoxville last season, 91-78.

Mike Griffith covers Tennessee men's basketball. Follow him at http://twitter.com/MikeGriffith32

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tulelakevol writes:

Bad, bad loss. No excuse for that display.

SummittsCourt writes:

The team in red wanted it more from the get go and deserved to win.

Shame on the most of the Vol players for sleep walking through the second half.

Shame on the lack of coaching - Martin looked like he was coaching little league most of the game.

Shame on the fans who never made much of an effort to get into the game. why bother showing up if you are going to just sit there.

Chartervol writes:

Rallie? Reallie?

thevoice writes:

Uggh!!! Is this equivalent to losing to UK in football?

VolFaninDC writes:

I know, "cupboard," "young," "depth," "patience," "believe," "support," and what is it again? I forget them all.

orangecountyvols writes:

Vols,

I usually refrain from being too critical about the games. However, we just saw another Kentucky-Tennessee football type game on the basketball court. Every team will play zone on us the rest of the year. A 1-10 team comes into your house and owns it.............

No further comments.

born2ride writes:

Good grief!

Austin Peay was 1-9 coming into the game. They just lost be 31 points to Memphis.

It is time we cut our losses and get rid of Martin and Dooley. They were both terrible hires by Mike Hamilton. They longer we wait the more our programs fall into oblivion.

Dooley was the first UT coach in 3 decades to lose to Kentucky. Martin is losing at home to inferior teams and bringing in recruits not good enough to play in the SEC.

This is what happens when you go cheap and hire bargain bin coaches. Please stop making excuses for Dooley and Martin or waiting until next year for improvement - which will never come.

Hart needs to hire big name coaches who have experience winning and who can turn around UT basketball and football. We have hit rock bottom with Martin and Dooley.

Go Big Orange!

Smokey91 writes:

Dear Coach Dooley, guess what, Coach Zo found a new rock bottom. I thought losing to Kentucky was a about as bad as it can get, but to lose to a small school from Nashville not called Vandy or Belmont, who's best cheer is "Let's Go Peay!" is about as low as it gets. I understand it is going to take some time to turn things around, but you just lost to a 1 and 9 Austin Peay team at home. What has become to Men's Atheletics at the University of Tennessee? Deja vu sucks.

tulelakevol writes:

Congrats to AP, they wanted it more. Bargain coach = priceless win for 1-9 basketball team.

illorangevol writes:

What happened to playing hard? I thought this was going to be a trademark of this team?

VolFanMemphisGrad writes:

Break out the black curtains.

brokendownoldvol writes:

TN needs to hire some coaches or just go ahead and drop down to Div III. in all sports.

VolinCalif writes:

Looked a like our Football team out there. They have to play the whole game if they want to win.

BigBoyBall writes:

i am 53 years old and i could have put on a better display than that. i am truly red in the face from this. at least the loss at uk in football was an away game.this BS was in our backyard. counzo, if you want a job in the sec,this phooey won't get it. i'm done with this... (phooey is not the word i used)

thevoice writes:

in response to born2ride:

Good grief!

Austin Peay was 1-9 coming into the game. They just lost be 31 points to Memphis.

It is time we cut our losses and get rid of Martin and Dooley. They were both terrible hires by Mike Hamilton. They longer we wait the more our programs fall into oblivion.

Dooley was the first UT coach in 3 decades to lose to Kentucky. Martin is losing at home to inferior teams and bringing in recruits not good enough to play in the SEC.

This is what happens when you go cheap and hire bargain bin coaches. Please stop making excuses for Dooley and Martin or waiting until next year for improvement - which will never come.

Hart needs to hire big name coaches who have experience winning and who can turn around UT basketball and football. We have hit rock bottom with Martin and Dooley.

Go Big Orange!

I doubt too many qualified coaches were interested in UT after the condition "Pearl" left it. I like Martin, but hope he doesn't turn into Buzz2.

tulelakevol writes:

Wade Houston 2.0

Madkels writes:

Hamilton does it again. We should have kept Pearl and lived with the NCAA punishment for a few years. I know some on here would disagree, but Pearl brought excitement and a winning program. Now we have nothing on the court or the field. Welcome to loserville.

ssfpr writes:

Our entire sports program is going down the tube. Pat Summitt is our only bright spot at the moment, but given her state of health ( she is still doing an excellent job, by the way, we back Pat ) no telling where UT will end up. Time to cut our losses and get new football and mens basketball coaching staff.

HtownVol writes:

WORST game I have ever seen from UT.

NO EXCUSE!!!

Zero effort from the tip.

Maymon passing to the wrong team.
McBee not quick enough to play any defense.
Golden never knowing he is too small to drive.
Hall cant get a shot without taking 4 steps.

The most frustrating part to see is every time a UT player makes a horrible play and comes to the bench Coach Martin never tells the player what he thinks.

There is no leader on the team. Not even the coach is capable of getting the team to play hard.

I can honestly say that the team has gotten worse in every single game this season. There is no doubt to that.

We had a week to get ready for this game and came out like the team had been out all night. I seriously think they may have been.

With Maymon dominating the paint WHY IN THE.... DID WE NOT GO TO THAT IN THE 2ND HALF????

I do like Coch Martin but he is losing the team very very fast.

No one is over reacting to this loss because there is ZERO excuse for this junk of a game we saw today!

I am afraid we are not going to be able to sign the recruits needed to win in the SEC if the recruits see that the UT players do not play hard for C Martin!

I know it is too early to say this but after what we saw today C Martin better get this team fixed right now or he is going to lose support of the UT fans.

PLEASE just get the team to play hard. That is the BIGGEST reason we are garbage right now. ZERO EFFORT!

ja2654#301891 writes:

The Power T's will continue to be displayed upside down on the side of my truck.

VolFaninDC writes:

I honesty think Mr. BamaHart needs to hold a press conference apologizing to the Vol Nation for the state of the MEN'S athletic department and tell us exactly how he plans to rectify it and by when this will be done (meaning we're winning again) and if he doesn't succeed, he'll quit.

tulelakevol writes:

Times like this it seems like we would have been better off keeping Pearl and probation, I mean look at USC, kiffy poo has them winning despite bowl bans and scholarship reductions, and still getting recruits. Anything would be better than this current garbage. I am just so disgusted with this coach and team right now.

johnlg00 writes:

Well, that certainly sucked! There is no way to sugarcoat this one. The perimeter players in particular seemed to be lazy, sloppy, selfish, slow, and weak, or so it sounded anyway. Maymon and Hall were killing it early but it seemed the outside players got jealous and stopped throwing it to them. I don't know or really care what excuses the players themselves think they had for playing that way, but they had better take a good look in the mirror and decide they don't like what they see enough to make them get their heads on straight before they go to College of Charleston on Wednesday. If they don't, they will get their heads handed TO them on national TV.

I can't say just what Martin did or didn't do on the sidelines, but surely some of the blame has to be on him and the staff as well. Sometimes a coach will take the attitude in such a situation that the players got themselves in a mess and it is by golly up to them to get themselves out of it. That CAN work at least in the long run if the players have enough pride to be embarrassed with themselves and are determined to prevent it from happening again. No question this loss was a setback from every possible point of view, and how the staff and team react to it and learn from it may well determine how the rest of the season will go. Hard to say such a thing about a non-conference game this early in the season, but we all knew that this team didn't have much room for error, and it can ill afford to let games like this get away from them.

brokendownoldvol writes:

in response to HtownVol:

WORST game I have ever seen from UT.

NO EXCUSE!!!

Zero effort from the tip.

Maymon passing to the wrong team.
McBee not quick enough to play any defense.
Golden never knowing he is too small to drive.
Hall cant get a shot without taking 4 steps.

The most frustrating part to see is every time a UT player makes a horrible play and comes to the bench Coach Martin never tells the player what he thinks.

There is no leader on the team. Not even the coach is capable of getting the team to play hard.

I can honestly say that the team has gotten worse in every single game this season. There is no doubt to that.

We had a week to get ready for this game and came out like the team had been out all night. I seriously think they may have been.

With Maymon dominating the paint WHY IN THE.... DID WE NOT GO TO THAT IN THE 2ND HALF????

I do like Coch Martin but he is losing the team very very fast.

No one is over reacting to this loss because there is ZERO excuse for this junk of a game we saw today!

I am afraid we are not going to be able to sign the recruits needed to win in the SEC if the recruits see that the UT players do not play hard for C Martin!

I know it is too early to say this but after what we saw today C Martin better get this team fixed right now or he is going to lose support of the UT fans.

PLEASE just get the team to play hard. That is the BIGGEST reason we are garbage right now. ZERO EFFORT!

I thought they were going to do more drug testing after what happened under Pearl. Obviously the weed still rules this team.

oldster writes:

I keep hearing what a great hire Martin is compared to Dooley. What a great motivator. What a great teacher and stressor of defense. Where is the evidence? Are people talking about those close losses to over-rated Memphis and bored Duke? I keep seeing loses to teams that even this under talented team should beat.

SATCHMOE writes:

Austin Peay hustled their butts off and we went away from an inside game. I am surprised that we gave up. We chased them as they dictated the game in the final ten minutes. This loss hurts and will show up in the attendance

VolFanMemphisGrad writes:

Suffered through football season..waiting on basketball. Thinking at least we the Vols could compete...sorry state in KNoxville..across the board.

TopTenn writes:

I hope CCM understand the magnitude of this loss. He now joins Dooley on the hot seat.

thevoice writes:

Do the cheerleaders of the Army and Navy teams serve our country after they graduate? Just curious.

elmoe writes:

When does baseball season start?

oldster writes:

in response to ssfpr:

Our entire sports program is going down the tube. Pat Summitt is our only bright spot at the moment, but given her state of health ( she is still doing an excellent job, by the way, we back Pat ) no telling where UT will end up. Time to cut our losses and get new football and mens basketball coaching staff.

I really cannot understand why people think UT should have a great athletic program. Our state does not turn out very many top tier athletes and the majority of the ones that are turned out live further from the UT campus than they do the campuses of several other major college universities. In addition, in much of our state, there is not the quality of coaching that exists in other states and, where there is (e.g. Maryville in football) the quality of the athletes is not deemed by UT as good enough to make Volunteers. Does everyone think that UT should be great because it has a lot of money, great facilities, and/or fans? Well, how many SEC schools do not? Face it folks, TN is an athletically mediocre state and, therefore, no reason to believe that the state university should be any better. Just live with it. Your lives will be much more enjoyable if you do so and learn to be happy with sub-five hundred teams or to root for other schools.

tytanner writes:

I hope the administration kept all the money they claimed Hamilton brought in. They will need every penny to make us competitive in the SEC again. We are paying more people not to coach or do their administrative job at UT than we have working. I was actually adopting a wait and see attitude on Martin and Dooley but after today I have seen enough of both of them. The basketball attendance will be back to where it was before Pearl came before Christmas with this kind of effort.

Smokey91 writes:

Golden and Tatum combine to go 1 for 15 from the field. That's Pearl's players not showing up against an inferior team, that's our experienced players not playing or leading at a high level. I would prefer if we still had Pearl on the sideline but his recent recruits don't give me much confidence that the Vols would be in better shape with him then without him. Jordan Mac is way overrated as a scorer, Golden shows good stuff in spurts but does not always bring his A-game, Kenny Hall looks totally lost most of the time, Tatum, well who knows what is going on with this guy, and it looks like can't hit a free throw Maymon is back. Zo has a lot of lot of work to do to clean up this mess and I hope he is up to the challenge and can get some players in the fold that can play better than what the team showed today. Unfortunately, if you were hired by Mike Hamilton, there is a very good chance that you are not going to be up to the challenge (Kiffen, Dooley, Raleigh, now Martin... pretty impressive list there Hammy!

ACWLY writes:

Well, this was really not an upset as coach martin stated earlier this week that WINS were not important to him but learning from the losses and getting better were the only thing that mattered.

I wish winning had been more important to him TODAY and I can't think of anything that they could have learned from the Austin Peay WHOOPIN.

2011 will go down as Tennessee's WORST sports year ever and how proud ole' mike hamilton must be, he hired BOTH loser coaches! Great Job!
If he had stayed much longer I wouldn't be surprised if Tennessee dropped college spports altogether {actually looks like they already have in football and MEN'S basketball)

I wish I had ONE more college team to pull for but I don't so I guess I'll just WAIT TIL NEXT YEAR like I have for the past decade!

oldster writes:

in response to johnlg00:

Well, that certainly sucked! There is no way to sugarcoat this one. The perimeter players in particular seemed to be lazy, sloppy, selfish, slow, and weak, or so it sounded anyway. Maymon and Hall were killing it early but it seemed the outside players got jealous and stopped throwing it to them. I don't know or really care what excuses the players themselves think they had for playing that way, but they had better take a good look in the mirror and decide they don't like what they see enough to make them get their heads on straight before they go to College of Charleston on Wednesday. If they don't, they will get their heads handed TO them on national TV.

I can't say just what Martin did or didn't do on the sidelines, but surely some of the blame has to be on him and the staff as well. Sometimes a coach will take the attitude in such a situation that the players got themselves in a mess and it is by golly up to them to get themselves out of it. That CAN work at least in the long run if the players have enough pride to be embarrassed with themselves and are determined to prevent it from happening again. No question this loss was a setback from every possible point of view, and how the staff and team react to it and learn from it may well determine how the rest of the season will go. Hard to say such a thing about a non-conference game this early in the season, but we all knew that this team didn't have much room for error, and it can ill afford to let games like this get away from them.

My Gosh, John! What are you saying?! You are not suggesting that players should or could be responsible for losing a game, for lousy attitudes, disgusting lack of effort, and/or failure to learn a thing about the game are you? You have to know that it is all on the coach. If you do not, look at the postings re: the UT football team. If the coach explains that the players lack experience and that there are not enough of them, he is trying to throw them under the bus and not taking the blame. If the coach says that "we" are just not a good team right now, he is not shouldering the blame, either. A coach must understand that the behavior of all the players and coaches who play and or work under him are not only his responsibility, but are his puppets. They have no independent will or ability. The fault for everything that happens is the fault of the head coach (unless they win, of course, when the players get awards, big salaries in pro sports, etc).

HtownVol writes:

in response to TopTenn:

I hope CCM understand the magnitude of this loss. He now joins Dooley on the hot seat.

It seems as if UT has started to assume that just walking on to the court will get a W.

The past few weeks I have seen the worst effort from UT over back to back to back games that I have seen in 15 years.

If UT loses to another "team we are supposed to beat no matter what" then I for one would not care one bit to see C Martin go.

Of course it is far too early and it will not happen for 2 years at minimum nut if it happens again then it will be obvious that Coach Martin is not the coach for UT.

I already beliebe that the team is not motivated by him (exactly like Dooley).

There are many reasons why UT got beat today by a team that should NEVER beat UT but the main reason is EFFORT!

And the reason I am upset with Martin is that Martin did not one time appear to be upset with the team. The players are not going to change anything if they are not being shown that the coach is upset with what they are doing (or not doing).

I still just can not believe that UT lost this game. Austin Peay was just over powered and under talented in every single aspect today but they had the one thing that UT did not, EFFORT!

I really,really hope like others that Coach Martin realizes what is happening right now. This may be the make or break couple of weeks for Coach Martins career at UT. Does he fix the issue and get the team ready to play or does he continue to be satisfied with the garbage being played and continue on the road to the destruction of UT basketball?

PLEASE get this fixed.

underthehill writes:

in response to illorangevol:

What happened to playing hard? I thought this was going to be a trademark of this team?

I heard " if you don't play hard you won't be on the floor"..Golden is no point guard and was walking the ball up the floor when we should have been attacking..I expected to see the kind of effort on defense you see when you watch ALABAMA..who plays with more heart than they have talent and get rewarded for their efforts..I did not expect to see a lack of effort..

Maverickman writes:

This is as low as Ive ever seen Tennessee sports... BamaHart give us Hope,

Smokey91 writes:

I was planning on attending the Vols game with ETSU Dec 23rd while I was in town for the holidays, but now, not so much. I want to be a good fann and all, but can't see spending hard earned bucks on this team. Think I will stay home and watch Fox News with the folks instead. By the way, Mr. Hart, be sure and send Hammy a nice Christmas card for all the mess he left for you to clean up. Hope you are up to the challenge cause I think a lot of Vol fans may think twice about spending a lot of money to watch men's teams that are just plain out inferior.

Smokey91 writes:

inferior and poorly coached I might add.

hcjournals#206623 writes:

Dear God in Heaven. Well, Cuonzo is making a million dollars. He'll be fine...I have to deal with this.....

ACWLY writes:

in response to johnlg00:

Well, that certainly sucked! There is no way to sugarcoat this one. The perimeter players in particular seemed to be lazy, sloppy, selfish, slow, and weak, or so it sounded anyway. Maymon and Hall were killing it early but it seemed the outside players got jealous and stopped throwing it to them. I don't know or really care what excuses the players themselves think they had for playing that way, but they had better take a good look in the mirror and decide they don't like what they see enough to make them get their heads on straight before they go to College of Charleston on Wednesday. If they don't, they will get their heads handed TO them on national TV.

I can't say just what Martin did or didn't do on the sidelines, but surely some of the blame has to be on him and the staff as well. Sometimes a coach will take the attitude in such a situation that the players got themselves in a mess and it is by golly up to them to get themselves out of it. That CAN work at least in the long run if the players have enough pride to be embarrassed with themselves and are determined to prevent it from happening again. No question this loss was a setback from every possible point of view, and how the staff and team react to it and learn from it may well determine how the rest of the season will go. Hard to say such a thing about a non-conference game this early in the season, but we all knew that this team didn't have much room for error, and it can ill afford to let games like this get away from them.

Well, like you taught me last week John, winning is not near as important than getting better. Remember, you said it was the policy of all GREAT coaches including yourself that winning was second to improving. My only question is "what do you think martin and the people on his team learned from the Whoopin they took today? I just can't think of anything and would have much prefered a WIN today, but like you said "getting better is what counts". THANKS but I'm going back to my old theory, winning gets you better, not losing.

hcjournals#206623 writes:

Don't get me wrong. I am all for Cuonzo doing well. But can't we be spared any grief, in any sport? For a million or two I wouldn't let Austin Peay beat us. Or Kentucky in football. Tired of this.....

MothershipChip writes:

The sky is falling the sky is falling the sky is falling!

springtx_vol writes:

in response to oldster:

I really cannot understand why people think UT should have a great athletic program. Our state does not turn out very many top tier athletes and the majority of the ones that are turned out live further from the UT campus than they do the campuses of several other major college universities. In addition, in much of our state, there is not the quality of coaching that exists in other states and, where there is (e.g. Maryville in football) the quality of the athletes is not deemed by UT as good enough to make Volunteers. Does everyone think that UT should be great because it has a lot of money, great facilities, and/or fans? Well, how many SEC schools do not? Face it folks, TN is an athletically mediocre state and, therefore, no reason to believe that the state university should be any better. Just live with it. Your lives will be much more enjoyable if you do so and learn to be happy with sub-five hundred teams or to root for other schools.

Sorry, top tier teams do not necessarily exist in states that have top tier talent. Kansas basketball for example. Duke basketball for example. Michigan football for example.

It has more to do with the reputation of the coach and the history of the school.

tnbigg writes:

The nothing is overtaking us... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y688up...

hcjournals#206623 writes:

Oldster:

Please go to the oldster folks home and leave us alone., jackwagon...We have enough problems without having to listen to tired old idiots....

69vol08 writes:

Wow...we are truly becoming... "Rocky Flop"! How sad!

Pennyformythoughts writes:

in response to oldster:

I really cannot understand why people think UT should have a great athletic program. Our state does not turn out very many top tier athletes and the majority of the ones that are turned out live further from the UT campus than they do the campuses of several other major college universities. In addition, in much of our state, there is not the quality of coaching that exists in other states and, where there is (e.g. Maryville in football) the quality of the athletes is not deemed by UT as good enough to make Volunteers. Does everyone think that UT should be great because it has a lot of money, great facilities, and/or fans? Well, how many SEC schools do not? Face it folks, TN is an athletically mediocre state and, therefore, no reason to believe that the state university should be any better. Just live with it. Your lives will be much more enjoyable if you do so and learn to be happy with sub-five hundred teams or to root for other schools.

The reason UT fans expects to be a top tier (not championships every year) is because we (donors) contribute at a high level. UT's coaches and atheletic department has received everything it could ask from the donors. I am not talking about the super-rich like the Haslams that receive tremendous tax breaks for every donation that they make,and every time they ask you to give to a "charity". I am talking about blue-collar/white-collar/resteraunt worker-collar fans, who pay rising ticket prices every year. UT has one of the highest recruiting budgets in the nation year after year in order to lure top atheletes. Nebraska-Oklahoma have limited talent in their respective states, yet are competive yearly in football. They go into Texas and other states for talent. UT has gone into Georgia, Florida, Mississippi, the Carolinas, and Virginia for talent over the years. The staff has just got to do a better job of evaluating talent. It is not easy to do when it's not in the backyard (even more perplexing as to why Randall Cobb was a wildcat, and may have saved Fulmer's job {not joking}),

Go4Two writes:

The Cubs have the goat curse we have the curse of Phil...Look at all of the programs since Phil got Fired. Football, Basketball, W. basketball, Track on and on....The football gods are not happy...

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