Nnemkadi Ogumike, Toni Kokenis score at will against Lady Vols, 97-80

Stanford forward Nnemkadi Ogwumike (30) keeps the ball away from Tennessee forward Cierra Burdick (11) in the first half of an NCAA college basketball game in Stanford, Calif., Tuesday, Dec. 20, 2011.

Photo by Paul Sakuma, Associated Press

Stanford forward Nnemkadi Ogwumike (30) keeps the ball away from Tennessee forward Cierra Burdick (11) in the first half of an NCAA college basketball game in Stanford, Calif., Tuesday, Dec. 20, 2011.

Holly Warlick assesses the damage after Stanford loss

STANFORD, Calif. – Stanford’s Nnemkadi Ogwumike launched her player-of-the-year candidacy at Tennessee’s expense Tuesday night.

The Cardinal’s All-American senior forward tore through the Lady Vols for a career-high 42 points in a 97-80 women’s basketball victory before a crowd of 7,329 at Maples Pavilion.

Ogwumike had capable assistance from senior guard Toni Kokenis, who scored a career-high 26 points for No. 4 Stanford (8-1), which pulled away during the final 10 minutes to extend its home winning streak to 68 games.

Ogwumike also grabbed 17 rebounds. She shot 19-for-27 from floor and still found the time to dish out three assists.

“I thought she brought a lot of energy to her team, whatever she was doing’’ UT forward Glory Johnson said. “When you have that much energy on the floor, it spreads throughout the team.”

Shekinna Stricklen had a career scoring day for No. 6 Tennessee (7-3) with 27 points. Johnson backed her up with 18. The Lady Vols shot nearly 50 percent from the floor and were lurking within three points with 12 minutes left.

But they never found a defensive answer for Ogwumike and suffered the painful consequences.

“You score 42 points on anyone, especially Tennessee – where we take a lot of pride in our defense – that’s huge,’’ UT associate head coach Holly Warlick said. “She plays with a lot heart and desire. If we can learn one thing from Nneka, it’s her heart and desire and it carries over to her team.

“She played like a player of the year tonight.”

The ripple effect from Ogwumike’s performance was reflected by Stanford’s point total, which was the most by a UT opponent since Louisiana Tech scored 98 on Feb. 24, 1997.

The Cardinal shot 53.6 percent from the floor (37-for-69) and had a 35-29 rebounding advantage. It had the edge in all the pertinent statistics except bench scoring. And UT’s meager 11-6 advantage in that category was made meaningless by Ogwumike’s production.

“I feel like when they needed a big play, they made a big play,” Warlick said. “They just kept making big plays. Us making a run didn’t bother them one bit.”

The Lady Vols’ start didn’t foreshadow a humbling finish. They weren’t far off their torrid shooting pace of last Saturday against UCLA, hitting at a 61.5 percent clip from the floor for the first half.

Their problems revolved around defense as the Cardinal recovered from an early nine-point deficit to lead 48-41 at the break.

Early fouls contributed to UT’s plight. Center Vicki Baugh picked up two fouls and sat down inside the first six minutes. Freshman reserve Isabelle Harrison picked up a technical foul when she mistakenly took the court after a timeout.

But the biggest problem of all for UT was Ogwumike, who had 19 points at the break. She was scoring on everything from putbacks to pull-up jumpers.

Kokenis was her surprise accomplice. Her 14 first-half points were six more than her per-game scoring average.

“I think it was a big step for me and our team,’’ she said. “We had better pace today. We played more aggressive.”

The prevailing storyline carried over to the second half. The Lady Vols, particularly Stricklen, were making their share of shots. But they couldn’t come up with enough stops.

Ogwumike resumed her impressive work with Kokenis again serving as her sidekick. They scored consecutive baskets to push Stanford’s lead back to 63-55 with 11:44 left.

Tennessee freshman Ariel Massengale, who had missed the last three games with a hand injury, played 11 minutes in the second half.

DeMoss Hurt: Tennessee assistant coach Mickie DeMoss was wearing a cast on her right hand after falling on Monday and suffering ligament damage.

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jack_2222#231746 writes:

Sweet 16 is a worthy goal for this tentative squad.

underthehill writes:

Home court huge in this game. Lady Vols will win if they meet this team again in tourney.

oldster writes:

The Lady Vols will not perform at their best until:a) They quit playing Simmons, b) They play Baugh more, c) They learn to make free throws, d) They learn to take better care of the ball, and e)Learn to block out when playing a zone. At their best they can beat anybody. With these issues, they can get beat by almost anybody.

ACWLY writes:

Hard game to watch, we have a lot to improve on if we want to be competitive in March. This game, versus a strong opponent, allowed us to judge our strengths as a top team and sadly we failed miserably. Appeared to be the same caliper team as last year with little or no improvement. In reality Stanford has much better players than we do, but for now we still have Coach Summitt and if anyone can get the best out of a player she can.

jt45 writes:

Worst defense I have ever seen from one of Pats teams. To allow one player to score 42 points and not find a way to double up and stop her. They must be worn out from their road schedule or something. Stanford looked unstoppable tonight and the refs really were pathetic on more than a few calls. But by far the worst part of the game was the outright favoritism by ESPN announcers. I think they would pull for the devil if he was playing UT.Turnovers and defense was a knockout punch for the lady vols tonight. I couldn't believe how many times they got beat down the floor. On this night I think Stanford would have beat Baylor just as bad.

ladyvolsfan789 writes:

You put any other team in the nation against tonight's Stanford squad and the result will be similar. There's not a team in the nation that can handle Ogwumike when she's playing like this. Sometimes teams play games where they are absolutely unstoppable. We had a game like that against Kentucky last year, tonight it just happened that Stanford had that type of game.

butch31 writes:

Glory Johnson is every bit as good Nnemkadi and yet we don't get the ball to her...LOL! Incredible! The Shekinna, Meighab and Taber show will be the death of this team.
IT'S NOT WORKING...o.k. Coaches! The absolute worst 1st half officiating ever. Poor Glory was NOT allowed to defend. The Pac-12 refs were the WORST.
I am NOT sure who scouted this game...but the outcome was obvious. The Lady Vols were better than they showed. The officiating set the tone early. Vicki, Isabelle, Ciera & Alicia have got to step up consistently.
Stanford would've taken down Baylor tonite easily, THIS WAS BY FAR THEIR BEST GAME EVER. STANFORD WAS ON F I R E!
The one glaring thing that we can take away from this game, IS NOT GIVE UP ON EACH OTHER! This game mirrored the NOTRE DAME loss last year. A very sad ending, we gave up!

r2d2 writes:

Very dissapointed in the way LVs played defense on Ogwumike. Please defense her like Griner. Twenty six points is better than 42 points given up. I believe LVs were tired. I also believe Stanford played over their heads. Vicki Baugh did not play well tonight.

jt45 writes:

in response to oldster:

The Lady Vols will not perform at their best until:a) They quit playing Simmons, b) They play Baugh more, c) They learn to make free throws, d) They learn to take better care of the ball, and e)Learn to block out when playing a zone. At their best they can beat anybody. With these issues, they can get beat by almost anybody.

I disagree with you on Simmons, she has been very good offensively for the LV and I doubt Ariel would have put as many points on the board. I think Simmons needs to play on the wing. AS far as I can tell she has done a very good job in the last few games, in fact they all have offensively except Baugh, but their defense just isn't there and turnovers are killing them. I still think this team is better than last years crew and they have played the toughest schedule of any recent L. vols team ive seen this early in the season. By March they should be tuned up pretty good and if their all healthy
they will do well.

orangecountyvols writes:

Vols,

Oldster said to play Baugh more????

The same Baugh who once again picks up early fouls and sits? Also, the same Vicki who is at best 50% at the line?

But the bottom line is the defense or lack therof to allow career games by Stanford players.

Yes, the road trips must have worn them out. What other reasons? Also, Stanford has won a ton in a row on their court, and yes, they would have probably beaten anyone in the country tonight.

Last year the Lady Vols lost 3 all season and they have that already. To cut down any nets in Denver they will have to make significant changes
from now on.

fansince08 writes:

in response to butch31:

Glory Johnson is every bit as good Nnemkadi and yet we don't get the ball to her...LOL! Incredible! The Shekinna, Meighab and Taber show will be the death of this team.
IT'S NOT WORKING...o.k. Coaches! The absolute worst 1st half officiating ever. Poor Glory was NOT allowed to defend. The Pac-12 refs were the WORST.
I am NOT sure who scouted this game...but the outcome was obvious. The Lady Vols were better than they showed. The officiating set the tone early. Vicki, Isabelle, Ciera & Alicia have got to step up consistently.
Stanford would've taken down Baylor tonite easily, THIS WAS BY FAR THEIR BEST GAME EVER. STANFORD WAS ON F I R E!
The one glaring thing that we can take away from this game, IS NOT GIVE UP ON EACH OTHER! This game mirrored the NOTRE DAME loss last year. A very sad ending, we gave up!

I totally agree, we have to find a way to get Glory the ball. Just the road games in general Glory would get position and we would overlook her or pass it to her when she is not even set, but yet expect her to score or grab the rebound when she is not in a position to get a rebound.

I cant wrap my mind around what is going on. The girls were fussing with each other on the court. Just no discipline and lack of competitiveness.

ladyvolsfan789 writes:

in response to orangecountyvols:

Vols,

Oldster said to play Baugh more????

The same Baugh who once again picks up early fouls and sits? Also, the same Vicki who is at best 50% at the line?

But the bottom line is the defense or lack therof to allow career games by Stanford players.

Yes, the road trips must have worn them out. What other reasons? Also, Stanford has won a ton in a row on their court, and yes, they would have probably beaten anyone in the country tonight.

Last year the Lady Vols lost 3 all season and they have that already. To cut down any nets in Denver they will have to make significant changes
from now on.

Vicki has always shot FTs very well so I'm not sure where you're getting that 50% number. Glory's the one who is a bit shakier there.

Also, there's not excuse for Kokenis, but give Ogwumike some credit, she was making everything tonight.

r2d2 writes:

The most painful thing about this defeat is the way UCONN held down Ogwumike (22 points) and the other Stanford players.

ladyvolsfan789 writes:

in response to r2d2:

The most painful thing about this defeat is the way UCONN held down Ogwumike (22 points) and the other Stanford players.

Ogwumike only played 23 minutes in that game due to foul trouble. If not for that she might have picked apart UConn's defense just as easily as Tennessee's.

SoddyVol writes:

in response to r2d2:

The most painful thing about this defeat is the way UCONN held down Ogwumike (22 points) and the other Stanford players.

I would suggest that Ogwumike played much better tonight than she did against UConn. Vols played a good game but Stanford was the better team tonight. One thing that holds a team down is early game fouls called against them inside. One obvious bad call was a Block called when the defender was well inside the line. Anyway Stanford deserved the win. Vols must improve their defense.

coffy73 writes:

in response to ACWLY:

Hard game to watch, we have a lot to improve on if we want to be competitive in March. This game, versus a strong opponent, allowed us to judge our strengths as a top team and sadly we failed miserably. Appeared to be the same caliper team as last year with little or no improvement. In reality Stanford has much better players than we do, but for now we still have Coach Summitt and if anyone can get the best out of a player she can.

I totally agree. They lacked, from the get go, the heart and desire to win. ND had it from the opening whistle. This TENN team had the talent, but not the will to win. Where was Bjorklund? Why did Coach Summitt, all season, have to pound the message about heart into their heads? These players are nowhere near motivated mentally to win a championship.

coffy73 writes:

Please ignore the above comment I posted. It was a response saved in my roboform from like last year when i was having problems posting! LOL!

coffy73 writes:

in response to butch31:

Glory Johnson is every bit as good Nnemkadi and yet we don't get the ball to her...LOL! Incredible! The Shekinna, Meighab and Taber show will be the death of this team.
IT'S NOT WORKING...o.k. Coaches! The absolute worst 1st half officiating ever. Poor Glory was NOT allowed to defend. The Pac-12 refs were the WORST.
I am NOT sure who scouted this game...but the outcome was obvious. The Lady Vols were better than they showed. The officiating set the tone early. Vicki, Isabelle, Ciera & Alicia have got to step up consistently.
Stanford would've taken down Baylor tonite easily, THIS WAS BY FAR THEIR BEST GAME EVER. STANFORD WAS ON F I R E!
The one glaring thing that we can take away from this game, IS NOT GIVE UP ON EACH OTHER! This game mirrored the NOTRE DAME loss last year. A very sad ending, we gave up!

Hate Stanford, but Glory is nowhere as good as Nnemkadi. Glory is very athletic, but she can't shoot for phooey!

coffy73 writes:

in response to ladyvolsfan789:

You put any other team in the nation against tonight's Stanford squad and the result will be similar. There's not a team in the nation that can handle Ogwumike when she's playing like this. Sometimes teams play games where they are absolutely unstoppable. We had a game like that against Kentucky last year, tonight it just happened that Stanford had that type of game.

Nah, not against Baylor or UConn, who play excellent defense and never give up. This Lady vol squad gives up too easily and can get very frazzled. This squad is a turnover machine and if they can't clear up some of that by NCAA tourney time, they won't make it past the sweet 16. I don't even know if they can beat Kentucky in the SEC tourney, if they meet.

stumpyb writes:

This year will be painful for both basketball teams and I do believe that Coach will retire at end of season and that UT will try to get Nicki Caldwell to come but I do not think she will. If Coach does retire I pray that don't give it to Holly or any of the other coaches for I do not believe they can recruit or coach. When Coach retires women's basketball will drop like the men's and it may take 2-3 years to get UT women's basketball back to the national level. NO championship this year or ever again. Just my thoughts and I know someone is going to blast me for them

butch31 writes:

in response to coffy73:

Hate Stanford, but Glory is nowhere as good as Nnemkadi. Glory is very athletic, but she can't shoot for phooey!

Remember last year Nnemkadi was like Glory when shooting from the outside. Nnemkadi got in the gym this past summer and worked her outside shooting. The coaching staff arranged that. The UT staff has NOT done that with Glory, yet she still 18 points on four of five shooting. Who scores 18 points with 5 shot attempts, while creating their own offense? Taber, Shekinna, and Meighan aren't looking for Glory.
Kokenis scored 26 points and still found a way to feed Nnemkadi, Stanford's Taylor Green, Amber Orrange and Lindy LaRoque all had 4 assists a piece finding Nnemkadi, Nnemkadi did NOT have to work hard for her 27 shot attempts, because her teammates found her. Until the coaching staff at Tennessee learns to establish a post game, we won't be winning ANY national titles. I was at this game tonite, I was disturbed at the guard play from UT...Something is terribly wrong. I feel as if coach Summit, has given up. I hope the assistant coaches get better from this. Glory Johnson is one of the BEST players in the nation, if she's NOT developed, its the coaching staff's fault.
These young ladies need to be taught. I get the feeling someone is faking the funk!!!
UT Guard play tonite: C- Coaching: D+ Post Play: D+

richvol writes:

UT got beat by a much better team tonight and much better coached I might add. UT can't even throw the ball without turning it over and that makes it hard to run an offense efficiently. Offense has been a problem for us for years now and now our defense is just as bad.

Neka is the best player I have seen since Candace and may be even better. Spani,Simmons and Baugh just don't measure up to Stanford's team. They got schooled tonight. Our freshmen are not as good as Stanfords either.

rocky_topper writes:

This is not a shocker. This is the same Lady Vols team that we have watched for four years. What I said last year still holds for this year "They ain't nearly as good as they think they are". They just don't have the heart the other Lady Vols of the past teams did. They never did, and they never will.

la_Madrina writes:

The guards for Tennessee refuse to feed the post. Glory was successful against Stanford down low. Even drew a few fouls. The guards should have looked for Glory more in this game. Even Izzy had her defender pinned one time and they did not give her the ball. A simple lob and Izzy had a layup. This team's only post presence is Glory. Vicki is too inconsistent, and was a nonfactor tonight as she has been except for in probably two games this season. I know she has been injured, but she said at the beginnig of the season she is 100%, so I will not use the injury excuse. Either she comes to play, or put someone out there who can help Glory in the post. I've held back, but Vicki's play has got to improve. She may not like to play the post position, but it is the only one we need her in at the moment. She needs to make it happen! Quick! Or either go ahead and turn the position over to Izzy. At least you will get more energy from her,and better Defense.

The team as whole played bad defense. No one impressed me on defense for the lady vols. The offense is fine, but you have to be able to stop your opponent. Defense gets an F! If they want to go to a final four, they need to play better lock down defense or they will not make it. Defense and rebound! And start looking for Glory!

The coaching staff didn't help much either. Wrong defense all night. A zone for Stanford the way they were shooting three's. Come on now! Stanford isn't even that quick of a team, but they sure looked quick the way the lady vols played defense. Neka was a one woman wrecking crew!

It's not that the team lost, it's the way they lost! They refused to play defense!

BigOrange_supporter writes:

So many coach's on here so little job openings. I thought this team would be really good, not tonight, lets see what happens because of this eye opening loss........GLV's

huntined#565710 writes:

SIMPLE just lost to a better team period!!!

xvolx writes:

The zone defense hurt Lady Vols.. No pressure on Stanford and zone allowed Stanford too many rebounds. I'm a Simmons supporter, but she is not a good def. player. Not a good coaching job by UT staff. Thought officiating was biased. Baugh should not be taken out after one foul. If she fouls out, she fouls out. Let her play. Still don't think anyone in SEC can beat them, but this is not a final four team yet.

eyeonu writes:

in response to oldster:

The Lady Vols will not perform at their best until:a) They quit playing Simmons, b) They play Baugh more, c) They learn to make free throws, d) They learn to take better care of the ball, and e)Learn to block out when playing a zone. At their best they can beat anybody. With these issues, they can get beat by almost anybody.

Thank for your sage advice. We sure needed you last night, as we were loosing to a better team. I shall continue to support the Lady Vols as I have since 1975. Another old timer going on 79.

RashaadSalabeb writes:

Stanford is a very good team. By the end of the year though we'll be better.

Go Lady Vols!

SummittsCourt writes:

I don't care what anyone says, but to me the turning point in this game came while tennessee was up 16-7 and Vickie Baugh received her second bogus foul call and that opened the doors for Ogwumike. Before that, the Lady Vols front court was dominating.

This allowed the Stanford players back into the game and the Lady Vols were never the same afterwards.

I'm not one to blame the refs, but this time they deserve a little credit for spreading some home court love to the Cardinal.

With that said, we have to keep in mind that this was the fourth game on the road with little rest and preparation and the Lady Vols played pretty well most of the game. Also, keep in mind our point guard is not 100% yet.

tonyvick#213307 writes:

in response to oldster:

The Lady Vols will not perform at their best until:a) They quit playing Simmons, b) They play Baugh more, c) They learn to make free throws, d) They learn to take better care of the ball, and e)Learn to block out when playing a zone. At their best they can beat anybody. With these issues, they can get beat by almost anybody.

Baugh didn't show up...dissapointing.

HOSSFLY writes:

when the lady vols can't give better effort representing the University.......it's a bad/sad time in orange-ville.

where is some good news ? or are all of ya'll going to tell me to be patient and wait for 2 , 4 , 6 more years....for football ,mens' basketball, baseball, softball, etc.......and, again, even our beloved ladyvols to start playing with heart and desire ?

the lack of wins in all of our sports programs is maddening enough....but what i (and i think most of us) can't stomach is not being prepared from the begining of any contest and......quitting.

ModelMaker writes:

in response to oldster:

The Lady Vols will not perform at their best until:a) They quit playing Simmons, b) They play Baugh more, c) They learn to make free throws, d) They learn to take better care of the ball, and e)Learn to block out when playing a zone. At their best they can beat anybody. With these issues, they can get beat by almost anybody.

Couldn't agree with you more. I am so sick of Vicky Baugh going out early in the game with fouls. Griner doesn't seem to have that trouble. The injuries, I can't get over all the injuries that have hit this team. Now we got a coach injured. You aren't going to win anything like that.

ModelMaker writes:

in response to SummittsCourt:

I don't care what anyone says, but to me the turning point in this game came while tennessee was up 16-7 and Vickie Baugh received her second bogus foul call and that opened the doors for Ogwumike. Before that, the Lady Vols front court was dominating.

This allowed the Stanford players back into the game and the Lady Vols were never the same afterwards.

I'm not one to blame the refs, but this time they deserve a little credit for spreading some home court love to the Cardinal.

With that said, we have to keep in mind that this was the fourth game on the road with little rest and preparation and the Lady Vols played pretty well most of the game. Also, keep in mind our point guard is not 100% yet.

I couldn't have said it better myself. Vicky Baugh and Ariel Massengale have to be in there and play at least 37 min. in the big games if we are going to have a chance to win the big games.

Jakevol writes:

Learn from your mistakes, sack the bats and come home.

AlpharettaVol writes:

in response to jt45:

Worst defense I have ever seen from one of Pats teams. To allow one player to score 42 points and not find a way to double up and stop her. They must be worn out from their road schedule or something. Stanford looked unstoppable tonight and the refs really were pathetic on more than a few calls. But by far the worst part of the game was the outright favoritism by ESPN announcers. I think they would pull for the devil if he was playing UT.Turnovers and defense was a knockout punch for the lady vols tonight. I couldn't believe how many times they got beat down the floor. On this night I think Stanford would have beat Baylor just as bad.

They were NOT ESPN announcers. The game was carried by Fox and you could tell that the telecast was part of a PAC-12 package because of all the references to other PAC-12 activities (player of the week, new coaches in the conference, etc.). The announcers were obviously from the West Coast since they continued to make personal references to the Stanford players. It was the kind of announcing you expect from announcers who regularly do SEC games.
With all that aside, I thought we got several tough calls early on that set the stage for the rest of the game. I not sure that would have made much difference, though. Their girls were just faster and more confident than the Lady Vols. Don't know why, but it seems that a number of teams each year are much quicker that our girls. In the past we have usually been able to overcome that shortcoming but I'm not sure this team can do that.

96VolGrad writes:

Wow! What a smart group of comments. What a smart group of UT fans. I am very impressed with Lady Vol fans posting on this site. If a Men's team had lost there would be a bunch of idiots screaming for the coach's head and then lobbing insults at each other and calling each other names like 4th graders. Thank you Lady Vol fans! Thank you for restoring a some of my pride in this program and our fans.

ModelMaker writes:

in response to xvolx:

The zone defense hurt Lady Vols.. No pressure on Stanford and zone allowed Stanford too many rebounds. I'm a Simmons supporter, but she is not a good def. player. Not a good coaching job by UT staff. Thought officiating was biased. Baugh should not be taken out after one foul. If she fouls out, she fouls out. Let her play. Still don't think anyone in SEC can beat them, but this is not a final four team yet.

I agree with you about Baugh. She need's to play a lot more in the big games. I thought it was the turning point in the game when she left the game. The coach's need to get that problem straightend out right now or they will continue to have problems winning the big games.

jeff1vol writes:

UT needs more athletic players... period! I've been saying that for 4-5 years now. It's shameful to watch other teams like Baylor and Stanford who have CLEARLY recruited better players. I don't believe this coaching staff has the player evaluation skills necessary to win at the highest level. We are slow. Watch UConn and you'll CLEARLY see what I'm talking about. It's been a great run!

volsince53 writes:

if u watched stanford shoot u could see they were in a zone,every thing going in,diffinitely home cooking for refs. this was just to many road games with no down time. half the threes they made were from 2 and 3 feet behind the three point line, just happened. to all those critics of tennessee coaching staffs give it a rest, i did not see carla vandevere make a single three out there tonight gbo

BxVol writes:

Totally agree about the zone defense, Stanford was hitting wide open 3`s.Ogumumike was like a combo Bernard King/Olajuan, going hard to the goal, and also making some tough shots away from the basket.Once again turnovers bit us,I seem to recall they had 1 turnover to 8 for us in the first half.Stricklin looked good,and I liked Meighans pull up jumpers from mid range.In order forour Lady Vols to beat the elite teams in March they have to play better defense, stop turning the ball over, and take good shots.It sounds so simple but it has not happenned so far.Ariel will be a big help when healthy and with experience gained in the SEC.I don`t like Vicki and Glory trying to go coast to coast as someone else mentioned.We have talent, but team chemistry on both offense and defense has to improve.Is this a final 4 team? Only if the Lady Vols work their butts off to make it happen.

orangecountyvols writes:

Vols,

I was listening to the game with Mickey calling it.
Who remembers this? We were down I believe 11 and stormed back to cut it to I think 1 or maybe 3.

We then forced a shot clock violation........but.....they then called a foul on Spani. Stanford proceeded to score 5 in a row and it was never close after that. We were basically trading baskets but not closing the margin. This game was sort of like playing a football game against a team who had a super running back, and you knew in advance he was good, but just couldn't stop him.

Giving credit to Stanford. They did to Tennessee what we had just done to UCLA. It happens. If you have to lose.......Stanford and their coach is one of the classier teams.

Keep the faith and use this one as a learning experience. 1997........10 losses and won the N C. You just never know..............

volpreacher writes:

in response to oldster:

The Lady Vols will not perform at their best until:a) They quit playing Simmons, b) They play Baugh more, c) They learn to make free throws, d) They learn to take better care of the ball, and e)Learn to block out when playing a zone. At their best they can beat anybody. With these issues, they can get beat by almost anybody.

you probably think they should fire Summitt too. You are coach in waiting.

jwawker writes:

in response to jt45:

Worst defense I have ever seen from one of Pats teams. To allow one player to score 42 points and not find a way to double up and stop her. They must be worn out from their road schedule or something. Stanford looked unstoppable tonight and the refs really were pathetic on more than a few calls. But by far the worst part of the game was the outright favoritism by ESPN announcers. I think they would pull for the devil if he was playing UT.Turnovers and defense was a knockout punch for the lady vols tonight. I couldn't believe how many times they got beat down the floor. On this night I think Stanford would have beat Baylor just as bad.

I did not see the favoritism that you spoke of. Seriously what reason would there be for ESPN, with Kara Lawson in a prominent role there, to be biased against UT? I think it just is the fact that Stanford pulled away so convincingly that ESPN heaped praise on their players.

underthehill writes:

in response to SoddyVol:

I would suggest that Ogwumike played much better tonight than she did against UConn. Vols played a good game but Stanford was the better team tonight. One thing that holds a team down is early game fouls called against them inside. One obvious bad call was a Block called when the defender was well inside the line. Anyway Stanford deserved the win. Vols must improve their defense.

I watched Baylor and U Conn. This Stanford team would have no chance beating either on a neutral site. Can't disagree Stanford deserved to win even tho they had huge edge in officiating. Vol defense did not do a good job denying ball to Ogw and getting a quick double when she did get it. Griner could easily block most of the shots Ogw took w/o fouls being called at a neutral site. Stricken played great and looked like the All American Pat has always said she could be. Manning has become consistent with her ability to contribute when most needed. Lastly, I don't think it would be possible for a Lady Vols team to shoot 62% for the first half and not be ahead on the scoreboard at home. Do you?

Jephry writes:

The Lady Vols lost to a great team defending their home floor. Stanford would have beaten anyone last night. Period.

Props to Massengale. Her defense and court presence steaded the LVs when she entered the game. I was disappointed in Glory a couple times when it seemed she just gave up. I know it's got to be frustrating for her when she works her tail off to get open and they don't get her the ball. At any rate, I don't EVER want to see our girls giving up again. If I were the coach - and I am SO not a coach - that would be the first thing I addressed. The next would be defense and rebounding. The last teams who obviously bought into the defense and boards theory happened to win national championships.

I still think our girls are a great team when they bring their best. They HAD to have been tired last night.

I almost feel sorry for Old Dominion when they come to Knoxville next Wednesday.

Go Lady Vols!!!

underthehill writes:

in response to orangecountyvols:

Vols,

I was listening to the game with Mickey calling it.
Who remembers this? We were down I believe 11 and stormed back to cut it to I think 1 or maybe 3.

We then forced a shot clock violation........but.....they then called a foul on Spani. Stanford proceeded to score 5 in a row and it was never close after that. We were basically trading baskets but not closing the margin. This game was sort of like playing a football game against a team who had a super running back, and you knew in advance he was good, but just couldn't stop him.

Giving credit to Stanford. They did to Tennessee what we had just done to UCLA. It happens. If you have to lose.......Stanford and their coach is one of the classier teams.

Keep the faith and use this one as a learning experience. 1997........10 losses and won the N C. You just never know..............

Well stated..keep improving ..u never know..I can see this team beating anybody by the end of the year if they improve their passing and cut down the turnovers.

johnlg00 writes:

in response to jt45:

Worst defense I have ever seen from one of Pats teams. To allow one player to score 42 points and not find a way to double up and stop her. They must be worn out from their road schedule or something. Stanford looked unstoppable tonight and the refs really were pathetic on more than a few calls. But by far the worst part of the game was the outright favoritism by ESPN announcers. I think they would pull for the devil if he was playing UT.Turnovers and defense was a knockout punch for the lady vols tonight. I couldn't believe how many times they got beat down the floor. On this night I think Stanford would have beat Baylor just as bad.

Those were not ESPN announcers, they were a Pac-12 crew. Did you not wonder why the Pac-12 logo was on the screen so much and the SEC one so little? Didn't you notice that all the team and player updates were of Pac-12 teams? Often when UT is playing at home on Fox Sports South or SportSouth, the announcer is either Bob Kesling or Randy Smith, and all the promo material is about UT or the rest of the SEC.

As for your other points, it is virtually given that officiating in women's basketball is lousy. The refs missed several calls both ways. As for Neka Ogwumike, when a great player is on a roll, nobody can stop her. She is one of the great players in the game today, and her sister isn't too shabby, either.

I do think there is something to the idea that the team was tired. They came off final exams to go on the road for 10 days, playing two games on each coast with only one day in K'ville in that time. I saw lots of evidence that they just didn't have the energy to play as hard and sharp as they could have otherwise. I pretty much put this one down as a loss before the trip began for just this reason.

I also agree that Stanford played like a national champion last night. I look forward to a rematch in the Final Four.

johnlg00 writes:

in response to coffy73:

Hate Stanford, but Glory is nowhere as good as Nnemkadi. Glory is very athletic, but she can't shoot for phooey!

Gotta say I agree with you there. Neka has as complete an offensive game as any player in the women's game today. Glory couldn't make most of those shots in a HORSE game. That is not a knock on Glory, who I just love as a player, but even she would say that Neka is much more creative on the offensive end. When Glory gets it down low and doesn't have to take more than a dribble or two, she is hard to stop. Neka can get her own shot from anywhere on the floor.

itsgolden writes:

Everyone should have seen this coming. this is a veteran team and they have yet to play a 40 minute game. a couple weeks ago while watching another women's ncaa game, Kara Lawson was asked who she thought would win the Baylor/UConn game. she correctly predicted Baylor, but said Baylor must not rely on having 6'8" Griner because UConn plays hard every possession. I said that to say this: the lady vols take too many possessions off and it's bitten them in the butt already too many times this year. Several times this year in the first few minutes of a game, they have jumped out to an early lead only to see it dwindled in the next few minutes. This team should have beaten Rutgers by 20, but they let up after the first few minutes of the game, as they did against Stanford. This team lacks heart, fight, emotion and team spirit. I blamed the coaches when they first bought in this group, for not having a plan for the post Candace Parker era. Not recruiting between years, to have a competitive program after Parker. Now that this group has played together for 4 years, one can only blame them for anything lacking. the coach can't take the floor with this team, they have to be able to execute. I believe the piece of the game that's missing for this team is between the ears. It was obvious last night that they were confused on many occasions on defense as well as offense. On defense nobody had a clue who they were guarding and neither were they switching. Simmons, Stricklen, Manning, Spani and Burdick are too slow turning direction to defend smaller guards. If you pay close attention, they are mostly reactive to what the offense is doing. On offense, everybody stands around watching the other person dribble. Either no plan for scoring or nobody knows the plan. Stricklen is scoring well, but she stands in her position too much instead of hunting for her shot and getting herself open. Spani obviously believes the only shot on the floor is the 3. Glory is very athletic and energetic, but throws the same elbows that we saw her freshman year. She's more concerned with getting to the foul line, where she's not great, than scoring the basket. Baugh is too soft - period. Neka was going after rebounds as if it was nobody's but hers. She had only two fewer rebounds than all 5 of Tennessee's starters. she's constantly moving, fighting to get position. this isn't the first time she's played the lady vols tough, she always does. wouldn't you think that they would have picked up on something by now. having both baugh and glory on the floor at the same time last night, you would think the lady vols would have implemented the high low game, but it never happened. i agree with some other posts that glory needs to get the ball in the low post more often, but this team hasn't learned that yet. the one reason they can't is because they are passing the ball too slow and allowing the defense time to collapse.

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