NCAA considering 10-second runoff for penalties in final minute

Rule would have helped Vols against North Carolina

For Tennessee fans still stinging from the Vols’ double-overtime loss to North Carolina in the Music City Bowl, it’s probably too little too late.

The NCAA rules committee, though, appears motivated to make a permanent change just months after the chaotic and controversial final seconds of regulation in UT’s 30-27 loss.

Among numerous recommendations developed at this week’s meetings in Indianapolis, the committee proposed the implementation of a 10-second runoff rule if a team commits a foul that stops the clock in the final minute of both halves. Already enforced in the NFL but for the final two minutes of both halves, the rule would prevent teams from purposely committing penalties as a means to stop the clock in the game’s waning moments.

According to an NCAA press release, the opponent will have three options if the penalty is committed against it. It can take the yardage and the 10-second rundown; neglect the yardage and accept the 10-second rundown; or it can decline both.

“The idea is to prevent a team from gaining an advantage by committing a foul to stop the clock,” said Rogers Redding, who was recently named college football’s national officiating coordinator after serving for years as the SEC’s coordinator of football officials. Redding also is the secretary-rules editor for the NCAA’s football rules committee.

If it were already in place for the 2010 season, the rule, which has been enforced in the NFL for years, would have prevented the Vols from leaving LP Field with a season-ending loss.

Out of timeouts and trailing by a field goal, Tar Heels quarterback T.J. Yates ignored a flurry of his teammates as they streamed on and off the field and spiked the ball with one second remaining. Because there were at least 12 players on the field during Yates’ spike, UNC was penalized 5 yards for illegal substitution, but it did not signal the end of the game.

Whether the Tar Heels should have been flagged for illegal substitution or illegal participation, a 15-yard penalty that is enforced when the extra players are not attempting to leave the field during the play, was a hot source of debate in the days and weeks following the controversial ending.

After the field was cleared of players who thought the game was over, UNC kicker Casey Barth nailed a 39-yard field goal to send it into overtime. Barth’s 23-yard field goal in the second overtime served as the official ending to a wild night in Nashville.

All rules recommendations must be approved by the Playing Rules Oversight Panel, which will meet on a conference call April 14. Beforehand, the proposals will be sent to the NCAA membership for comment.

Andrew Gribble covers Tennessee football and recruiting. He may be reached at 865-342-6327. Follow him at http://twitter.com/Andrew_Gribble and http://blogs.knoxnews.com/gribble/

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Skullz_VOL writes:

yeehaa

Bigger_Al writes:

Anybody else think it will bite us if it passes?

nepperso#220348 writes:

Tennessee won the bowl game. Period. No one will ever convince me otherwise. Unlike LSU where we obviously lost. Ugh.

rockytopatl writes:

Tennessee can run off in a lot quicker than 10 seconds if necessary.

Dobervol writes:

Big whoop. About 6 weeks too late and a lotta dollars short.

Dobervol writes:

. . . and BTW, Gaffney dropped it, too.

Pops writes:

We will be the first team to lose a game because of this Rule.

orangecountyvols writes:

in response to Claudettevol:

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Claudia,

There are several things which convince us of your ignorance.

We could go on.........but I'll just ask you to explain to us where the so-called "5 picks" occurred.

In the meantime Claudia, just powder your nose, fix the makeup, then do your homework...........troll.

Gart5 writes:

in response to Claudettevol:

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Yeah, blame Tyler Bray. He threw for over 300 yards and 4 TDs. Also, he threw 3 ints, not 5. If my memory is correct, one of them was a the very end of the first half on a hail mary. But by all means, blame him.

Ga_Dave writes:

in response to Dobervol:

. . . and BTW, Gaffney dropped it, too.

It's amazing how long true fans remember when we were screwed by a ref!!! But, you're right Dober, HE DID DROP IT. I can't tell you how close I came to putting my foot through the tube on that day! GBO

VOLtage writes:

in response to Pops:

We will be the first team to lose a game because of this Rule.

And watch it happen against UNC in a bowl game.

huntined#565710 writes:

This would be a good rule as every coach in the nation saw how to get more time for a extra play.
In our case it should have been a 15 yd set back but they only gave them 5.But if ever a rule that went against us if changed it will again..

Ga_Dave writes:

in response to Claudettevol:

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None of what you said negates the premise HE DROPPED THE BALL!!!!!!! Nothing you can say will change that FACT! Go away troll.

Vols7Twins writes:

they will make it a rule, and next year LSU will
come to Knoxville and win a game because of it,
and Les Miles will ride out of town with a big smile on his face................Book It.

murrayvol writes:

in response to Claudettevol:

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Need to get DC in the loop. You guys are sooooooo much better as a couple.

iowavol writes:

This rule will be forever known as the Tennessee rule

Lostvolinhighweeds writes:

in response to shen24:

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If the losing team played well enough for the difference to be made on one bad call, they played well enough to win if the call is correct, regardless of how poorly they played.

Lostvolinhighweeds writes:

in response to Claudettevol:

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Well, if you're on a Vol board, clearly you are a consumed by all things orange troll.

Lostvolinhighweeds writes:

in response to Claudettevol:

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There's the catch, Gaffney didn't.

BigVolinCarolina writes:

This is about 7 weeks too late.

USNVOL writes:

in response to Claudettevol:

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Hey Chimpmunk,
Looking for attention.......bend over!

USNVOL writes:

in response to shen24:

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shen24=Attention Seeker=troll!
If you want some attention like your girlfriend Claudette,try what she likes ....BEND OVER!

CoverOrange writes:

Is the committee considering any retraining of refs to know when to stand over the ball to allow the defense to substitute? Are they going to clarify the rules about which personal fouls will be enforced in overtime (roughing the kicker) and which aren't (facemask of Eric Berry against Kentucky)? Are they going distinguish spearing from good a football slobberknocker tackle? This is like congress making new rules that don't fix what is really wrong.

Vols7Twins writes:

The Florida State Trolls have took over the Gator
site, and Auburn Trolls have took over the Bama
site, So these Trolls have to go somewhere to go
to talk smack. They can't do it on their own site.

USNVOL writes:

in response to Claudettevol:

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Bend over Chimpmunk,get ready for your attention,go get your girlfriend Claudette,the two of you can pull double duty! :)
BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

orangevoltrain writes:

Let's not forget that the defense had some 15 yard penalties against the vols due to one of the hits that jackson got for leaving his feet and went head first, Tyler had 3 int., one came in 2nd O.T.

tnsportsman writes:

Claudette sounds like a cheap Whore in the New Orleans French Quarter, bet you do the CD Shows on Bourbon Street!

Cantstandsaban aka vandyNOTgrad is just a stupid punk living in a box under that stinking vaaaanderbilt football stadium

SHE-N-2-4 You ALABUBBA LOT LIZARD, Auburn spotted the Alabubba Redneck Trailer Trash 24 points and they still loss, LOL, YES! Get back on your street corner outside Walmart, PUNK!

Better still why don't all 3 of you come play some REAL backyard tackle football on Sunday, yeah didn't so wussies!

I could sell tickets to most of the TRUE VOLS FANS to see you PUNKS trying to play! Money would go to charity!

alabbuba, the swamp lizard and the vaaaanderbilt commode-a-dores SUCK!

GO VOLS, WE ARE UT FOR LIFE!

ellerbee123 writes:

in response to CantStandSaban:

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EXCEPT when they LOSE. We will beat them at home, BOOK IT. GO VOLS. You, CSS, go eat that other dozen krispy kreme doughnuts you have on your counter.

thetrollhunter writes:

in response to CantStandSaban:

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Reasons why you don't know what your talking about

1. Your team didn't get in a bowl
2. Your team hasn't beat us in a long time, and 3. You will continue to lose to us for a long time
4. Your School is terrible
5. You jelly

PeeEllthree writes:

in response to Lostvolinhighweeds:

If the losing team played well enough for the difference to be made on one bad call, they played well enough to win if the call is correct, regardless of how poorly they played.

Don't put that quarter in your pocket because it will become a regular quarter like the others. Which it is.

orangevoltrain writes:

A true Tennessee Vols fan will root for the Vols during good and The Bad times, so let's support this team GO VOLS. WE ARE UT VOLS

crimsonviper writes:

in response to murrayvol:

Need to get DC in the loop. You guys are sooooooo much better as a couple.

They would rather you called them life partners instead of a couple...Take note ,mv.

USNVOL writes:

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Volubull writes:

in response to Claudettevol:

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and they never remember the calls that help us like the phantom call a couple of years later that gave us a chance for the miracle field goal that won the game why do we win games but we never lose them sombody always robs us or the weather, espn, the refs, and any other excuse is why we lost.

CoverOrange writes:

in response to CantStandSaban:

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"Losing 54 of 60 minutes is not winning"

Perhaps the dumbest thing you have said.

I bet you like ice dancing.

stevefrommemphis writes:

I guess they're still not going to stop the clock until the next snap when a player runs out of bounds, nor reduce the 40 second clock to something more reasonable, like a 35 second clock. Changes in timing rules have taken 5 to 8 minutes off the clock over the past few years, resulting in fewer plays from scrimmage. The game has been cheapened so that ESPN, CBS, etc... can get more commercials on TV within a 210 minute per game window.

A couple of years ago, I timed about 62 minutes of commercials in a 3.5 hour Tennessee football game. Pathetic.

mountainbrook writes:

in response to CantStandSaban:

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2 and 10 , 2 and 10. Can Vandy do it yet again?

Cookeville-vol writes:

To late to help us? Yes, but the rule needs to be in place.

FWBVol writes:

I have said all along that Yates should be commended because he knew the rules and got the extra play by spiking the ball and drawing the penalty before the clock expired. That said, we got rooked by clock penalties twice this year...the first that was against us because of a smart play by LSU and the second against UNC on another smart play that gave the Heels an extra play.

This rule is long overdue. Yes, it might come back to hurt us in the future, but it won't allow any team to use a penalty to its own advantage in the last minute of play.

orangecountyvols writes:

Claudia,

Have you finished powdering your nose? We honestly believe you might be able to do that better than trying to make an
intelligent statement here.

As you troll along, take a couple of your girlfriends with you.........Shen and Cantstandhimself...........

gbo78 writes:

I agree the runoff rule is needed but the real strategy that Coach Dooley and team are implementing is to be further ahead at the end of the game. Go Vols!

dead_vol_foul (Inactive) writes:

in response to Claudettevol:

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sad but true. Chavis strikes again, as he did against UGA.

the 'feared mustang package'.

Tell ya what though, no loss ever, ever, ever stung more than LSU in the championship game.
we win the bcs champ if we win that.

I got so mad I changed a starter on my old van at 2:30 in the morning, freezing cold garage, with one hand (broken thumb on the other).

Just frigging brutal....Julian Battle gets the pick 6, we win.

Dobervol writes:

in response to shen24:

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Not an excuse; a fact. Moreover, people who use universal statements like "always" or "never" show themselves to be idiots, as a universal statement may be rebutted by only a single contrary example in the entire world.

Let us assume, for argument's sake, however, that you're right. Who is "loser" to the core? A bitter fan who remembers each bad call, or a troll who frequents the forums of his team's opponents gleefully throwing insults about? The former is arguably a "sore loser"; the latter troll is just "a loser" as a human being, with a big 'ol neon "L" on the forehead.

Volborn writes:

in response to Bigger_Al:

Anybody else think it will bite us if it passes?

that was my first thought...we'll be the first team to get screwed by it. But it is the right rule.

Snapshot writes:

in response to shen24:

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What are you anyway, a 24-year-old Chinese?

VOLUNTEER_FEAR writes:

WHATS funny is a few of us guys were at a get together over the week and were talking about UTC and BJ Coleman and made a remark about UT Screwed up by letting him go and I said you know what , Bray is ten times better than Coleman and if he stayed he would be riding the bench anyway and This Florida Gator fan (Shows how really stupid they are laughs and says Bray is one of the worst he has seen . A three year old can tell how talented and good Bray is and then I also said wait we have another coming in that just might be better than him in Worley.

clvolfan writes:

in response to Dobervol:

. . . and BTW, Gaffney dropped it, too.

He also dropped on in the pro's 2 years ago,only difference--it was ruled an incompletion.

murrayvol writes:

in response to crimsonviper:

They would rather you called them life partners instead of a couple...Take note ,mv.

Point taken. Certainly wouldn't want to offend their delicate psyches.

huntined#565710 writes:

Got to give it to VANDY tonight as they played a great game. I have no love for BAMA but they got some tough calls on them..That was a good game to watch,,

ctownvol writes:

in response to Claudettevol:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc0mxO...

I think you'll enjoy this one.

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