Tennessee releases modified version of NCAA Notice of Allegations

David Reaves involved with two separate violations

At the request of multiple media outlets, including the News Sentinel, the University of Tennessee on Wednesday released a new version of last week’s Notice of Allegations from the NCAA that contained fewer redactions.

The new version of the 26-page document, though, did not reveal much more than the original, which cites the UT basketball program for 10 major violations and the football program with two.

Nineteen areas of the document were modified, but only one portion provided additional insight.

It is now known that former UT quarterbacks coach David Reaves, the brother-in-law of former coach Lane Kiffin, was involved with two separate violations that fell under the umbrella of the NCAA’s accusation of the football program under Kiffin engaging in “impermissible recruiting activities with prospective student-athletes.”

According to a letter from UT associate athletic director-strategic initiatives Desiree Reed-Francois, the University’s Office of the General Counsel confirmed through the Family Policy Compliance Office that its interpretation of the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) was correct in the initial release of the Notice of Allegations.

“The University has not been trying to conceal information, but rather has been attempting to comply with FERPA and to protect student privacy,” Reed-Francois wrote. “Upon reexamination, we have determined that there is another way to redact the Notice of Allegations that both protects student privacy and avoids creating the impression that we are attempting to conceal information.

“We believe the enclosed, modified Notice of Allegations enables you to conclude that the vast majority of the redacted information is already publicly known and that the University is not withholding information except as necessary to comply with the law.”

In the original notice, Reaves was linked to impermissible telephone calls and text messages with multiple recruits, whose names were redacted in both documents. In the latest notice, Reaves’ name pops up in a separate 2009 violation, which was completely whited out in the original document.

Outside of the phrase “on or about,” “2009,” Reaves’ name and “with full knowledge that,” major details regarding the violation remain redacted.

Reaves has been linked to a highly publicized potential violation committed in September of 2009, when two members of UT’s Orange Pride, Dahra Johnson and team captain Lacey Pearl Earps, visited Byrnes High School in Duncan, S.C. The two Vols hostesses posed for photos with Corey Miller and Brandon Willis who, at the time, were both UT verbal commitments. Miller is a rising sophomore at UT while Willis eventually de-committed and is now at UCLA.

The News Sentinel reported last September that Reaves was made aware of the violation but did not notify the school.

Under NCAA rules, Reaves was required to report any potential violation to UT’s compliance department immediately.

Reaves was promoted last month by New Mexico to offensive coordinator.

Like the original notice, the second of 10 major violations levied against the men’s basketball program and coach Bruce Pearl, including which specific NCAA bylaws were compromised, remained entirely redacted in the modified version.

A number of the modifications come under the basketball staff’s violation for 96 impermissible phone calls from August 2007-July 2009. No new names, however, were released, only that Pearl and assistant Tony Jones were the guilty parties in sections that were completely blacked out in the original version.

A number of steps the university must take to provide evidence in response to the recruiting violations with football were completely whited out in the original document. In the modified version, those requests were brought to light, but are now heavily redacted to the point of being indecipherable.

Citing a “unique circumstance in which the University believes it may be in the students’ best interests to waive their privacy rights under FERPA and consent to release of information in the Notice of Allegations,” UT offered current student-athletes whose names are mentioned in the notice to have their names made public. None of the students agreed to have their names released, according to Reed-Francois’ letter.

“The University’s redactions are designed to comply with FERPA and to protect student privacy, not to withhold information from the media or public,” Reed-Francois wrote.

UT has until May 21 to respond to the allegations. The university’s appearance before the NCAA’s Committee on Infractions in Indianapolis is anticipated to be during the committee’s meeting on June 10-11.

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Rocky_Top_Mama writes:

Don't give up on this KNS...there is no more information shown in this one than the previous version. Exactly what is being hidden here?

DutchOrangeVolsOrange writes:

Look, I wish this investigation was behind us. It is a huge distraction. CDD is trying hard to get this football program back to it's glory days.

If you want to hear something funny or just silly. I was talking to an Ole Miss fan the other day. He actually said to me: Why would any major football talent want to play at Tennessee when He could go to Ole Miss? Not only is this Ole Miss fan suffering from a severe case of cranial rectosis, it just just shows that in some fans minds, the UT football program has dropped in terms of reputation. This football program is still one of the top programs in the history of College football. As We all know from Lester McCLain, Condredge Holloway and the recruitment of black athletes in the sixties (several years before Alabubba) hopped on that bandwagon btw), clearly proves that Tennessee was ahead of the game. The past Bowl appearances and Bowl wins and the willingness to schedule major teams ( Penn State, Notre Dame, UCLA and others also shows how great the history of UT football is. I know a USC fan that told me that West Coast fans always liked Tennessee for scheduling UCLA and the Cal Bears back in the 60's and 70's. Very few SEC schoos did that then. Bama schduled USC to their credit!

Some silly Ole Miss fan actually thinking that Ole Miss is a better football program than Tennessee is laughable, but it does show that CDD needs to get this program back up again and fast. I think He is doing that with the early recruiting efforts and all. I just wish this NCAA mess was behind us all, both football and basketball!

Anyway, sorry to ramble on! LOL

Rich_Is_Re-born writes:

10 major basketball violations? DAMN!!!! "It was just a wiener roast".

LocoPhan (Inactive) writes:

This mess (and any former or forthcoming mess) will be paraded by KNS ("and other media outlets") until the ultimate goal of toppling the Men's Athletic Department at UT is reached. This will be followed by a parade down Gay Street featuring John Adams, Paul Finebaum, a group of ESPN regulars and most of the UT faculty who will declare that Knoxville has now been cleansed and is therefore a great city that has learned its lesson. A "grace period" of two weeks will then occur and peace will reign. Someone then will begin looking at Women's Athletics...

murrayvol writes:

No need to apologize Dutch. We've got time or we wouldn't be here.

This inquisition will be behind us soon enough and the UT program will still be among the best in the country. Football is on the periphery of this deal and CDD is exactly the guy we need to get past it in good shape.

Rejoice, cause better days are a comin'....and soon.

govols1234567 writes:

in response to DutchOrangeVolsOrange:

Look, I wish this investigation was behind us. It is a huge distraction. CDD is trying hard to get this football program back to it's glory days.

If you want to hear something funny or just silly. I was talking to an Ole Miss fan the other day. He actually said to me: Why would any major football talent want to play at Tennessee when He could go to Ole Miss? Not only is this Ole Miss fan suffering from a severe case of cranial rectosis, it just just shows that in some fans minds, the UT football program has dropped in terms of reputation. This football program is still one of the top programs in the history of College football. As We all know from Lester McCLain, Condredge Holloway and the recruitment of black athletes in the sixties (several years before Alabubba) hopped on that bandwagon btw), clearly proves that Tennessee was ahead of the game. The past Bowl appearances and Bowl wins and the willingness to schedule major teams ( Penn State, Notre Dame, UCLA and others also shows how great the history of UT football is. I know a USC fan that told me that West Coast fans always liked Tennessee for scheduling UCLA and the Cal Bears back in the 60's and 70's. Very few SEC schoos did that then. Bama schduled USC to their credit!

Some silly Ole Miss fan actually thinking that Ole Miss is a better football program than Tennessee is laughable, but it does show that CDD needs to get this program back up again and fast. I think He is doing that with the early recruiting efforts and all. I just wish this NCAA mess was behind us all, both football and basketball!

Anyway, sorry to ramble on! LOL

haha no man (or woman) I feel you. Where I live in Tennessee we have tons of gators and bama fans that have randomly popped up in the last 3 years. Just a bunch of bandwaggoners (if thats even a word) for both teams recent success. Its as if most people have forgotten Tennessee's overall reign of football, and believe second hand SEC schools can compete with UT tradition. Such as Ole Miss, Vandy, Kentucky, Mississipi state, you get the picture.

Also this is an almost useless article

volsfan74 writes:

We have to remember it wasn't "just a wiener roast"! It was the dishonesty that followed that caused the problem, and the coaching the attendees and family to lie about it as well that is the problem. I am a CBP supporter (at least I am trying to be) because I know I have lied in my life time. I mean all of us have; don't kid yourself, many have called in sick to work(when they wanted to play hookey, etc.
What I am curious about is some of the phone logs have the info and some have ALL of it blacked out, not sure why, if your going to show some of the log why hide the others.

Greyfeathers writes:

It will take the new BB coach several years to restore the program to decency. UT has put a stain on themselves by not firing cheatin', lyin' Bruce when it first broke. Hopefully Big Jim Haslam will give the word soon.

volsfan74 writes:

in response to PersistentlyDC:

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Arrogant A** fans like you are what makes me hate FU I mean UF! Gayterd fans are on their high horses on the hires of Muskrat and Charlie Fat A**! Lets see one has NO HC experience and the other was just canned 2 years ago from one of the premier jobs in College Football! Don't know what is so great down in the swamp!

NashvillePreds writes:

Ole Miss has a football team?

RollTideJoe writes:

in response to DutchOrangeVolsOrange:

Look, I wish this investigation was behind us. It is a huge distraction. CDD is trying hard to get this football program back to it's glory days.

If you want to hear something funny or just silly. I was talking to an Ole Miss fan the other day. He actually said to me: Why would any major football talent want to play at Tennessee when He could go to Ole Miss? Not only is this Ole Miss fan suffering from a severe case of cranial rectosis, it just just shows that in some fans minds, the UT football program has dropped in terms of reputation. This football program is still one of the top programs in the history of College football. As We all know from Lester McCLain, Condredge Holloway and the recruitment of black athletes in the sixties (several years before Alabubba) hopped on that bandwagon btw), clearly proves that Tennessee was ahead of the game. The past Bowl appearances and Bowl wins and the willingness to schedule major teams ( Penn State, Notre Dame, UCLA and others also shows how great the history of UT football is. I know a USC fan that told me that West Coast fans always liked Tennessee for scheduling UCLA and the Cal Bears back in the 60's and 70's. Very few SEC schoos did that then. Bama schduled USC to their credit!

Some silly Ole Miss fan actually thinking that Ole Miss is a better football program than Tennessee is laughable, but it does show that CDD needs to get this program back up again and fast. I think He is doing that with the early recruiting efforts and all. I just wish this NCAA mess was behind us all, both football and basketball!

Anyway, sorry to ramble on! LOL

For starters, Vanderbilt played the first black athlete in the SEC. Furthermore, Alabubba (as you say) has more SEC titles, more bowl appearances, more national football titles than Tennessee (by far). Bubba that !

NickDanger-ThirdEye writes:

in response to RollTideJoe:

For starters, Vanderbilt played the first black athlete in the SEC. Furthermore, Alabubba (as you say) has more SEC titles, more bowl appearances, more national football titles than Tennessee (by far). Bubba that !

War Eagle

Down_The_Field writes:

in response to RollTideJoe:

For starters, Vanderbilt played the first black athlete in the SEC. Furthermore, Alabubba (as you say) has more SEC titles, more bowl appearances, more national football titles than Tennessee (by far). Bubba that !

....more tree poisonings;

...and, da ferst teem in sec histury to mis-spell mississippee stait un der futball tikets.

roll turd roll.

volsfan74 writes:

And you forced out the coach that won you most of those titles!

orangeman1 writes:

in response to RollTideJoe:

For starters, Vanderbilt played the first black athlete in the SEC. Furthermore, Alabubba (as you say) has more SEC titles, more bowl appearances, more national football titles than Tennessee (by far). Bubba that !

You left out more fans with nothing better to do but read a UT website. I guess all this probation stuff must be exciting you since Fulmer stuck it to you guys on and off the field. You might finally get your wish and see UT put on probation, but it will be a long time to catch up to Bama in the cheating category. How many wins has Bama vacated in the last 20 years?

jimr07 writes:

in response to kwatson74:

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Nothing is all they know how to do.

westknoxrepub writes:

in response to Greyfeathers:

It will take the new BB coach several years to restore the program to decency. UT has put a stain on themselves by not firing cheatin', lyin' Bruce when it first broke. Hopefully Big Jim Haslam will give the word soon.

If Bruce stays and the sanctions are scholarship losses and probation, we might take a hit but it might only be for a year. If you fire Bruce, you're not getting a good coach, you're getting someone who otherwise wouldn't get the offer, and we're in for another 30 years of not mattering, that goes double if Hamilton is fired and replaced with a "football guy"

Rich_Is_Re-born writes:

80-90 extra phone calls OVERALL might not be that bad,but 50-60 were made to 1 player alone. That's a DAMN BIG DEAL!!!! If they really didn't make that many to Craft and Selby, so who in the world did they spend 50-60 phone calls on? Tobias perhaps? This just doesn't look good, and I REALLY don't see how you can defend Bruce on this. HOWEVER some continue to ignore the integrity of the program/university, and winning is all that's on their minds. They hate Lane Kiffin and LOVE Bruce Pearl. They just can't seem to understand that they are the same person, just in different bodies coaching at different universities.

oldgrouch writes:

BULL .we have cover-up but the die hard UT grang doesn't have the guts to amit it.

Rich_Is_Re-born writes:

in response to westknoxrepub:

If Bruce stays and the sanctions are scholarship losses and probation, we might take a hit but it might only be for a year. If you fire Bruce, you're not getting a good coach, you're getting someone who otherwise wouldn't get the offer, and we're in for another 30 years of not mattering, that goes double if Hamilton is fired and replaced with a "football guy"

Another stupid comment by you. Say it ain't so. What's wrong with having a "football guy" as the AD of a "football" school? I don't care if we even get a "basketball guy". Mike Hamilton is a "NOTHING GUY"! All he does is worry about $$$, and we have PLENTY of alumni who can do that. Condredge is looking pretty good right about now. Whether you know it or not, this IS a football school. We did just fine when the basketball program struggled, WE CANNOT afford to continually struggle in football. Perhaps we need a "football guy" smart enough to see he has a PREMIER hoops arena. Minus the probation (Thanks Bruce/Hamilton) our hoops program really shouldn't be that hard to sale.

crimsonviper writes:

in response to murrayvol:

No need to apologize Dutch. We've got time or we wouldn't be here.

This inquisition will be behind us soon enough and the UT program will still be among the best in the country. Football is on the periphery of this deal and CDD is exactly the guy we need to get past it in good shape.

Rejoice, cause better days are a comin'....and soon.

Good post,mv...CDD is quietly going about the business of doing things the right way.
Anybody who says different is blind or just refusing to open their eyes....IMO.

crimsonviper writes:

in response to oldgrouch:

BULL .we have cover-up but the die hard UT grang doesn't have the guts to amit it.

www.BadSpellersUntie.com. Check it out.

DutchOrangeVolsOrange writes:

in response to murrayvol:

No need to apologize Dutch. We've got time or we wouldn't be here.

This inquisition will be behind us soon enough and the UT program will still be among the best in the country. Football is on the periphery of this deal and CDD is exactly the guy we need to get past it in good shape.

Rejoice, cause better days are a comin'....and soon.

Yes, I believe that also. Despite these distractions, I believe Tennessee will be much improved this season. Maybe I see things with Orange sun glasses, but I think the Vols could win 10 games this year. As of this time, the Gators and Georgia are beatable. LSU and the Tide will be strong.

Go Vols

DutchOrangeVolsOrange writes:

in response to RollTideJoe:

For starters, Vanderbilt played the first black athlete in the SEC. Furthermore, Alabubba (as you say) has more SEC titles, more bowl appearances, more national football titles than Tennessee (by far). Bubba that !

I know about Perry Wallace. That Guy was amazing. I saw Him play basketball when He was in High school. He was really amazing. The abuse He took at Vanderbilt from opposing fans. I also remember the schools that gave Him the worst grief were the deep South schools of the SEC. Bama and Ole Miss come to mind!

orangecountyvols writes:

in response to ztoshiningz2:

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Mr Zto troll,

Explain to us what influence you will have on the game. Do you play? Didn't think so. Just do what trolls need to be reminded of...........that your expertise lies in your keyboard........nothing else.

Typical envious troll..................

NashvillePreds writes:

in response to ztoshiningz2:

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FSU is the best football team in mosquitoland

Brandon Spikes and Tim Tebow = NFL legends

rockytoplady writes:

in response to ztoshiningz2:

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It's sad you have to be on a TN site, you troll. Are things so boring in wonderful "titletown"? Ha! ha!

NashvillePreds writes:

in response to ztoshiningz2:

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Are you talking?

mocsandvolsfan writes:

in response to NashvillePreds:

Ole Miss has a football team?

lmaolmaolmao

mocsandvolsfan writes:

I HATE everyone! EVERYONE!
Ok not really.

tennrich1 writes:

in response to PersistentlyDC:

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UUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHH????????

Witch_Doctors writes:

Witch Doctor say this thing got as much drama as the Brentwood Baptist wife swapping clubs.(no one told Witch Doctor you had to take yours back when you leave...Witch Doctor not waste time)
Bones never lie.

BigBadVol writes:

I read some of these posts and realize there are people that bask in the sorrow of others. Simply pathetic. What comes around goes around. Just wait and see.

GoVols025 writes:

in response to PersistentlyDC:

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Gainseville = The Little Willy and Big Chuck Show!

MC = Jerry Folly!

Rich_Is_Re-born writes:

in response to UofTNFan:

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"I'm not going to delve into the details of Lane Kiffin's resume here. Everybody knows what happened."

Actually, I would LOVE to hear it. Go on and paint the picture for us.

TNORANGEDOGDAD writes:

in response to RollTideJoe:

For starters, Vanderbilt played the first black athlete in the SEC. Furthermore, Alabubba (as you say) has more SEC titles, more bowl appearances, more national football titles than Tennessee (by far). Bubba that !

Would'nt you feel more welcome on your Bama blog site or are you too stupid to find it. Or were you not welcome on either!

collegegrad writes:

If UT wants to restore honesty and integrity to their men's basketball program, then fire Liar Pearl and name Tony Jones as the interim or permanent head coach. Then, USC should be made aware of the violations that Kiffin made while at UT, then they should fire him as well. Both incidents would probably prevent them from getting other coaching positions.

NYvolFan writes:

As a UT Grad, and taxpayer, what ever happened to the Freedom of Information Act"???? It should be made available WITHOUT ANY dedactions.

samvol writes:

in response to BigBadVol:

I read some of these posts and realize there are people that bask in the sorrow of others. Simply pathetic. What comes around goes around. Just wait and see.

we are seeing it...with pearl....

VolNationPride writes:

in response to Rich_Is_Re-born:

80-90 extra phone calls OVERALL might not be that bad,but 50-60 were made to 1 player alone. That's a DAMN BIG DEAL!!!! If they really didn't make that many to Craft and Selby, so who in the world did they spend 50-60 phone calls on? Tobias perhaps? This just doesn't look good, and I REALLY don't see how you can defend Bruce on this. HOWEVER some continue to ignore the integrity of the program/university, and winning is all that's on their minds. They hate Lane Kiffin and LOVE Bruce Pearl. They just can't seem to understand that they are the same person, just in different bodies coaching at different universities.

Phone calls are a secondary violation so no it is not that big of a deal. I can about be certain if you looked at most schools secondary violations, that will be the one you see.

As for the lying part, that was his only downfall, he panicked and did what he did. I still dont believe that he tried to get everyone to cover up his lie. Even the NCAA put in there that Mr. Craft "believed what Bruce was trying to tell him was to cover up the lie". That is not the exact quote but that is what it says. That sentence alone doesn't say he told Mr. Craft to lie to him, for all we know he could have been telling him that he messed up and is being investigated for it. I for one as a parent would hope that a coach would tell me that so I would have a better understanding of the situation for my son.

The assistants are grown men, so they lied all on their own, that is on them and them alone.

thevoice writes:

A very troublesome letter. Additionally troublesome is the blacked out portions... as if there is more damaging info Hammy has not chosen to tell us. Heavy, heavy sanctions to come for the BBall program. If Hamilton and Bruce end up staying on-board this time next year, they're miracle workers. My guess is they'll both be gone within 12 months. The violations are definitely pointed toward Bruce, but come on Hamilton, you should have administered over this stuff as well. Condredge or Phillip for AD. If either were AD now, Bruce would have been long gone. Why? Because they both are UT alumnus and care about "The University of Tennessee." Hamilton cares more about his wallet than his employer, of which he is not an alumnus.

VolNationPride writes:

in response to collegegrad:

If UT wants to restore honesty and integrity to their men's basketball program, then fire Liar Pearl and name Tony Jones as the interim or permanent head coach. Then, USC should be made aware of the violations that Kiffin made while at UT, then they should fire him as well. Both incidents would probably prevent them from getting other coaching positions.

Considering Tony Jones lied also, your post is redundant.

mhsvol writes:

in response to Witch_Doctors:

Witch Doctor say this thing got as much drama as the Brentwood Baptist wife swapping clubs.(no one told Witch Doctor you had to take yours back when you leave...Witch Doctor not waste time)
Bones never lie.

Witch Doctor smokin' too many bones.

VolNationPride writes:

in response to NYvolFan:

As a UT Grad, and taxpayer, what ever happened to the Freedom of Information Act"???? It should be made available WITHOUT ANY dedactions.

You are getting the information. There is also a privacy law since the redactions are of individuals that did not committ the violations. Therefore, if they don't want their name shown then it gets redacted. How would you like to have your name tossed around for something you didn't do?

samvol writes:

in response to collegegrad:

If UT wants to restore honesty and integrity to their men's basketball program, then fire Liar Pearl and name Tony Jones as the interim or permanent head coach. Then, USC should be made aware of the violations that Kiffin made while at UT, then they should fire him as well. Both incidents would probably prevent them from getting other coaching positions.

umm, thought you wanted honesty and integrity, how is Tony Jones going to bring that??? hes just as much as a cheater and liar as Pearl, he was right there with pearl trying to cover it up..lol...

VolNationPride writes:

in response to thevoice:

A very troublesome letter. Additionally troublesome is the blacked out portions... as if there is more damaging info Hammy has not chosen to tell us. Heavy, heavy sanctions to come for the BBall program. If Hamilton and Bruce end up staying on-board this time next year, they're miracle workers. My guess is they'll both be gone within 12 months. The violations are definitely pointed toward Bruce, but come on Hamilton, you should have administered over this stuff as well. Condredge or Phillip for AD. If either were AD now, Bruce would have been long gone. Why? Because they both are UT alumnus and care about "The University of Tennessee." Hamilton cares more about his wallet than his employer, of which he is not an alumnus.

Don't worry, "Big Brother" is not out to get you either. Like the story says, the blacked out portions are to protect the players that did not want their names used. That goes with all the information that might show who they actually are. Has nothing to do with hiding, has everything to do with privacy.

mhsvol writes:

in response to thevoice:

A very troublesome letter. Additionally troublesome is the blacked out portions... as if there is more damaging info Hammy has not chosen to tell us. Heavy, heavy sanctions to come for the BBall program. If Hamilton and Bruce end up staying on-board this time next year, they're miracle workers. My guess is they'll both be gone within 12 months. The violations are definitely pointed toward Bruce, but come on Hamilton, you should have administered over this stuff as well. Condredge or Phillip for AD. If either were AD now, Bruce would have been long gone. Why? Because they both are UT alumnus and care about "The University of Tennessee." Hamilton cares more about his wallet than his employer, of which he is not an alumnus.

Mike Hamilton may not measure up as a big-time college athletic director, but there is no evidence to suggest that he is not a good man and only "cares about his wallet."

For those of you who have forgotten, he was promoted as a result of being recommended by Fulmer to then UT President John Shumaker.

The first hint I got of his incompetency was when he extended Fulmer's contract after the 2007 season when UT went 9-3 in the regular season, lost in the SEC Championship game, then managed an uninspired win against Wisconsin in the Outback Bowl. A closer look, however, reveals that UT lost three games against quality opponents by an average margin of four touchdowns, and then won three games against Arkansas, Kentucky, and Vanderbilt by an average margin of two points - all in the closing seconds, and two of those wins came in overtime. In reality, UT could have easily finished that season 6-6, instead of 9-3.

He continues to be a great fundraiser, but he is totally incompetent as an AD. However, I continue to believe he is a good person, and that his job performance is in no way related to that.

PeeEllthree writes:

Looks like the circus is in town. It's clown night.

Rich_Is_Re-born writes:

in response to UofTNFan:

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I'm pretty sure when Kiffin committed these infractions he didn't know 1)The USC job was coming open and 2) he would actually get the job. He basically cheated because that's how he is. Bruce basically cheated because that's how he is. They BOTH lied to the NCAA. Kiffin left and crushed everyone's little hearts, that's where the hatred comes from. But Bruce got UT put on probation just like Kiffin. Being that BOTH got UT in a jam, it's hard for me to think that Bruce cares about UT any more than him, LOL. The question is...Where have you been?

utvolnatl writes:

in response to RollTideJoe:

For starters, Vanderbilt played the first black athlete in the SEC. Furthermore, Alabubba (as you say) has more SEC titles, more bowl appearances, more national football titles than Tennessee (by far). Bubba that !

Well last time I checked, only 7-8 of your NCs are actually recognized by any national ranking organization. UT has 6. Furthermore, it is a fact that since 1926, Tennessee is the winningest program in the country, period. I think that qualifies for the modern era right? Alabama has a great program and my son is being recruited by both schools. After both game visits and both junior days, UT is in the lead. UT still has plenty to sell when it comes to recruits and football history of a winning program. Given your comments, you would be better served to visit your own blog site.

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