David Climer: For SEC, skirting the rules remains a way of life

— It was eight years ago this week that Mike Slive announced he was establishing a five-year window to get all SEC schools off probation and out of the NCAA doghouse.

The setting was the SEC Spring Meeting 2003 and Slive had gone door-to-door informing athletics directors, football coaches and basketball coaches of his plan/edict.

“I don’t smile when I say it,” he said at the time.

And darned if he didn’t pull it off — almost. By June 2008, all teams in the SEC’s most visible sports were probation-free. Arkansas’ track program was on a three-year probation but compared to the heyday of SEC tomfoolery, this was small potatoes.

Continue reading about SEC schools and NCAA probation at The Tennesseean.

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pickinhick writes:

Why doesn't Vanderbilt go ahead and just move to Conference USA and take the Tennessean with them?

Gbovol writes:

Arrogance and stupidity are what got UT in trouble. Kiffin's arrogance coupled with his stupidity and feeling he was above following the rules as well as Pearl's plain stupidity in having the recruits at his house and then denying it. They have brought dishonor on UT and wrecked its once good reputation. It will take years to regain the good reputation it took for those two to wreck in just a shour time.

volnsc51 writes:

Tressel is OUT at Ohio State.
KNS will have detalis for free by Thursday or on GVX Wednesday

pdhuff#552644 writes:

Say it ain't so!

Whoda thunk it about the SEC?

Amazin', what the Tennessean can ferret out.

madmax22 writes:

If Climer had actually done his homework he would have found out from the NCAA Major Infractions Database, that not only was Arkansas track program on probation, but Alabama still had time remaining on their probation (that was increased to 2014 just a year later) but Sou. Carlina football, Miss St football and UGA basketball were all on probation in June of 2008.

shipperman#280095 writes:

in response to volnsc51:

Tressel is OUT at Ohio State.
KNS will have detalis for free by Thursday or on GVX Wednesday

Yeah right, they are afraid of Tressel

TNORANGEDOGDAD writes:

in response to volnsc51:

Tressel is OUT at Ohio State.
KNS will have detalis for free by Thursday or on GVX Wednesday

Just saw that. We are probably the only two people to see that.

shipperman#280095 writes:

Dang, I retract my last statement, other than the fact I knew they were afraid to fire him.

http://www.foxsportsohio.com/msn/05/3...

CoverOrange writes:

in response to madmax22:

If Climer had actually done his homework he would have found out from the NCAA Major Infractions Database, that not only was Arkansas track program on probation, but Alabama still had time remaining on their probation (that was increased to 2014 just a year later) but Sou. Carlina football, Miss St football and UGA basketball were all on probation in June of 2008.

Climer is in the same vein as Adams in that they are both columnists who think reading their own sports pages counts as research and an idea worth spouting is a column worth being printed. I kept looking for the page 2 button on this article but there wasn't any. Would have been worth reading about how Slive was supposedly going about cleaning up the SEC.

FearThisElephant writes:

The Legend to OSU. After one year. Gators now know. The legend knew osu was in trouble before last season. The plan is almost complete. As the keyboard turns....

The_Real_Orange writes:

in response to FearThisElephant:

The Legend to OSU. After one year. Gators now know. The legend knew osu was in trouble before last season. The plan is almost complete. As the keyboard turns....

You may get lucky and get it right about Meyer going to OSU, but you're a complete idiot if you think he resigned so he would be available when Tressell was out. The scary part is he will win a National Title within his first 3 seasons if he goes there. A great coach and he will cruise thru the weaker Big 10+2 schedule.

civilianvol_formerly_marinevol writes:

in response to FearThisElephant:

The Legend to OSU. After one year. Gators now know. The legend knew osu was in trouble before last season. The plan is almost complete. As the keyboard turns....

If you're right, that will be a real slap in the face to Florida. Personally, I wouldn't have considered the OSU job to be that much better than Florida, but maybe Meyer did. We'll soon see. I think OSU is going to go with an assistant as interim coach for one year, which should give Meyer time to get out of any contract with ESPN. But, what if the interim coach has an amazing season, even with the suspensions?

civilianvol_formerly_marinevol writes:

I don't think it's fair to say that Climer just hates UT. I have read his column on other subjects, and have concluded he hates just about everything. I don't know that I've ever read a positive column by Climer on anything. He always approaches his columns with a kick them while they're down mentality. Sometimes that makes his columns enjoyable, depending on whom is being kicked.

VolNExile writes:

ESPN version on Tressel's resignation:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/st...

Someone may have to start a half-way house for former college coaches who departed with pending NCAA investigations.

FearThisElephant writes:

in response to The_Real_Orange:

You may get lucky and get it right about Meyer going to OSU, but you're a complete idiot if you think he resigned so he would be available when Tressell was out. The scary part is he will win a National Title within his first 3 seasons if he goes there. A great coach and he will cruise thru the weaker Big 10+2 schedule.

Za wife agrees with ya that i'm a complete idiot. No grey area there. Ye ol fingers did not say it was the reason for the leaving; but can you say "x-factor"? After the end of the probation period he will go to the dance for sure. Of course his dancing partners are fat & slow so he'll suffer the SEC smack-down that osu is famous for.

Money rules so if you think osu, the ncaa, and the top program insiders didn't know this was coming then I got some of that Kentucky beach front stuff to sell ya. Coaches, the good ones, always stay ahead of the storm. The Legend dumped the sunshine for the cupcake conference. Two years ago. As the keyboard turns...

murrayvol writes:

in response to civilianvol_formerly_marinevol:

I don't think it's fair to say that Climer just hates UT. I have read his column on other subjects, and have concluded he hates just about everything. I don't know that I've ever read a positive column by Climer on anything. He always approaches his columns with a kick them while they're down mentality. Sometimes that makes his columns enjoyable, depending on whom is being kicked.

Hate has nothing to do with it. It's just easier to write a column that rains on somebody's parade.

Plus it gets all the native's bowels in an uproar.

The_Real_Orange writes:

in response to FearThisElephant:

Za wife agrees with ya that i'm a complete idiot. No grey area there. Ye ol fingers did not say it was the reason for the leaving; but can you say "x-factor"? After the end of the probation period he will go to the dance for sure. Of course his dancing partners are fat & slow so he'll suffer the SEC smack-down that osu is famous for.

Money rules so if you think osu, the ncaa, and the top program insiders didn't know this was coming then I got some of that Kentucky beach front stuff to sell ya. Coaches, the good ones, always stay ahead of the storm. The Legend dumped the sunshine for the cupcake conference. Two years ago. As the keyboard turns...

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Meyer ends up at OSU in the end. I always thought that he may take that challenge if it ever presented itself to him. Only the folks that see things from only the perspective of their school would consider it a slap in the face. He gave Gator fans a fantastic 6 year run that will be nearly impossible to duplicate. I for one appreciate the good years he gave us and i'm ready to see what the new coaching staff brings to the table.....it is all just entertainment. Just sayin...

windy writes:

I was at the Masters this year and was talking to a gentleman form Columbus Ohio. He told me that Urban bought a new home close to his and had moved in already. He said that Tressel was going to resign and a interum coach would be named this year. Urban would talke over Ohio State next year. Sounds like this guy new what he was talking about

The_Real_Orange writes:

in response to windy:

I was at the Masters this year and was talking to a gentleman form Columbus Ohio. He told me that Urban bought a new home close to his and had moved in already. He said that Tressel was going to resign and a interum coach would be named this year. Urban would talke over Ohio State next year. Sounds like this guy new what he was talking about

Please tell me you were trying to misspell as many words as possible in that post. As for the "guy at the Masters", he may be be as full of phooey as you. Unless Meyer left his family behind he hasn't gone anywhere yet. His son is still going to school in Gainesville. Just sayin...

Colliervol writes:

in response to Gbovol:

Arrogance and stupidity are what got UT in trouble. Kiffin's arrogance coupled with his stupidity and feeling he was above following the rules as well as Pearl's plain stupidity in having the recruits at his house and then denying it. They have brought dishonor on UT and wrecked its once good reputation. It will take years to regain the good reputation it took for those two to wreck in just a shour time.

Exaggerate much? It won't take "years". Most folks realize that Kiffin and Pearl had character flaws and that is not on the university. Kiffin in hindsight was a bad hiring choice because if we had taken the blinders off, we all could have seen his character. I will never say that Pearl was a bad hire. He brought 5 years of the best basketball this program has ever seen and he made one HUGE mistake (lying to the NCAA). I believe the NCAA punishment won't be too bad on the university but BP is going to get the hammer AND the anvil dropped on him. If UT only gets a couple of years probation and a loss of one scholarship, most folks will forget in short order.

Colliervol writes:

in response to volnsc51:

Tressel is OUT at Ohio State.
KNS will have detalis for free by Thursday or on GVX Wednesday

If I were Climer, I'd be writing an article about Ohio State rather than the SEC. What they are finding out up there is far worse than anything the SEC has put out. More systemic than even at Alabama with Logan Young and his cronies.

Note to Jim Delaney: Crow is best served with plenty of salt and pepper and a nice Pinot Noir. How's that feeling of Big 10 "superiority" over the SEC working for you now there Jim?

budd#207344 writes:

in response to BodeaneVol:

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But ron zook is already at illinois. Who is cryer gonna get to recruit his players?

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