Derek Dooley wants reality check on Tyler Bray

QB still questionable

Brian Randolph on the play of the secondary

The first workout included mishandled snaps, inconsistent accuracy and occasional issues with timing.

It was almost exactly what Tennessee expected as Tyler Bray returned to the practice field.

The sophomore balanced that out by also delivering a few perfectly thrown balls down the field, having no problems in the shotgun formation and even showing signs of improvement by the end of just one morning back in pads with the Vols on Tuesday.

And while Bray might have looked slightly better than Derek Dooley anticipated, neither the good nor the bad did anything to change the status of his quarterback as the UT coach prepares his team for an instate showdown with Vanderbilt at Neyland Stadium on Saturday (TV: ESPNU, 7 p.m.).

"He's got a broken thumb, so you can't grip the ball and throw it the way you do when you don't have a broken thumb," Dooley said. "And so, it's going to take some time, guys. It's like everything around here — we want immediate fixes, and his thumb is not fixed.

"You don't just put magic serum on it and he can go throw like he did five weeks ago. It will come. I don't know if it'll be this week. I know he won't be as good as he was (before the injury) this week, I know that for a fact — if he plays at all. We'll see."

What the Vols (4-6, 0-6 SEC) saw from Bray as he put pads back on for the first time after missing five games with that thumb injury wasn't enough to rule him in or out of the lineup against the Commodores (5-5, 2-5). His mixed results in practice are keeping him still officially listed as "questionable."

Bray had issues in the early going taking snaps from center Alex Bullard, which also wasn't exactly a surprise to the Vols and was addressed by largely keeping him in the shotgun — including for running plays out of a new pistol formation. His passes weren't quite as precise as normal, either, with both his range of motion and perhaps rust interfering with his rhythm.

But there also were a few bright moments along that way that provided flashbacks to the first month of the season for him, and by the end of the morning session, those seemed to be the ones that stuck out most for the Vols.

"At first, I was like, 'Wow, I don't know about this,' " running back Tauren Poole said. "But at the end, you know, he was throwing it around and kind of got the hang of it. You could tell he was kind of favoring it a little bit, but at the end of practice he was zipping it.

"In team period, it was kind of exciting to get him back out there, and I'm just hoping he can do it in a game. That's all we want, see him do it in a game, see him produce. It's definitely a different pace in practice from a game."

Bray still has to prove he can fully handle the former before he'll get a crack at the Commodores and a chance to lead the Vols on another late run to a bowl game, and he didn't seem to be at that point just yet.

But Dooley hardly found that to be unusual for a guy who only had the cast removed from his throwing hand just more than a week ago. And he also isn't going to use that small sample size to make a final decision about Bray's status.

"I think it was about what I expected — actually a little better, but still not even close," Dooley said. "You know, you can't be in a cast for a month and then come out of a cast and just say, 'I'm good.' I mean, we live in La-La Land, he lives in La-La Land. I'm the only guy that has any sense of reality in this whole organization.

"It's data. I look at data. I look at data on everything, and I look at evidence. I guess that's the legal part of me. I just don't use imagination. The reality is he's questionable for the game."

One practice didn't do anything to change that either way. But Bray and the Vols still have two more to sort it out.

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OrangePsyched writes:

Bray will play..don't know when or how long..but he will play. It's not questionable unless he reinjures it at practice.

Witch_Doctors writes:

Witch Doctor see we have a couple in for the dumbest post of the year category.
Bones never lie.

Volunteer-Varmint writes:

in response to Witch_Doctors:

Witch Doctor see we have a couple in for the dumbest post of the year category.
Bones never lie.

I gotta agree with ya Doc. There are some real doozies on here for sure!

orangecountyvols writes:

Witchy,

Were you referring to "Simply-this-knucklehead/dog?"

chrisw2967 writes:

in response to Jeff_Hall_VFL:

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It wont take care of his problems but it would be a start in help solving them

CoverOrange writes:

Lawyers don't look at data. Engineers look at data. Lawyers look at motivations and perceptions, truth is irrelevant.

Yeah, I know, tangent.

SummittsCourt writes:

Tyler will start on Saturday. Dooley is smart and will not tip his hand too soon. Make vandy sweat and worry about it all week. They don't know who to prepare for.

He also realizes that if there is a setback he will be prepared for it.

BigVolFaninSC writes:

in response to Witch_Doctors:

Witch Doctor see we have a couple in for the dumbest post of the year category.
Bones never lie.

Ha Ha! That was a good one! It's funny how we have all these "experts" that could just step right in and make all the correct decisions on how to coach!

1986sugarbowl writes:

in response to Jeff_Hall_VFL:

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Isn't he kicking off from the 40? Where do you think his kicks will land in collage when he kicks off from the 30? It still should be better than the 10 or 15 yardline though!!

1986sugarbowl writes:

I would not risk playing Bray. If he hurts his thumb again, it could be worse than before and he may never get his grip back right again. Let it completely heal up before you loose a great QB!! With Simms gone next year, Worley needs more work during this terrible season anyway as Brays backup.

crappieking writes:

Dooley is lost. SEC coach? Don't think so. Hart should be looking hard. The search will pick up after Vandy beats us. Sorry but it's the truth. GO VOLS!!!!

wigmeister writes:

in response to crappieking:

Dooley is lost. SEC coach? Don't think so. Hart should be looking hard. The search will pick up after Vandy beats us. Sorry but it's the truth. GO VOLS!!!!

What an idiot! His handle says it all. King of Crappie!!!

ReVolver writes:

in response to stkdog:

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beg to differ...

very good timing on some fakes and onside kick this season. Good aggressive play calling at times when needed.

Now, the aggressive plays don't always succeed, but its nice to know we have a coach that ain't skeered.

VolMan126 writes:

in response to Jeff_Hall_VFL:

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Go look at Palardy on you tube from high school. He kicked the same way. They get to UT and cant get it to the endzone....

givehim6 writes:

I was thinking about something. There are many on this site that think all UT needs to do to make things better is fire Dooley, right? I go back in time about 10 or 12 years UT was going through kind of the same thing with Phil Fulmor. But Phil had won great games, "he kind of had the Nick Sabin I do not care thing going on, were Dooley just gets blamed for every thing bad. My point is back then we thought if Phil was gone Volland would turn up roses. Do you now think if Dooley was fired all would turn up roses? I am not trying to be a Dooley lover just trying to let you see you may be opining a biger can of worms UT has problems and a quick fix or patch job is not the answer. UT is sill living with problems from the past, not sure if firing another coach is the fix, just saying.

givehim6 writes:

in response to BodeaneVol:

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Thank you another point why it would not be a good thing to fire Dooley. Can UT afford to fire another coach? Might be cheeper in the long run for everone to calm down and try to get behind the team.

SneakyPete writes:

Worst team got dibs in the high school draft.....wishful thinking.

VolMan126 writes:

in response to ReVolver:

beg to differ...

very good timing on some fakes and onside kick this season. Good aggressive play calling at times when needed.

Now, the aggressive plays don't always succeed, but its nice to know we have a coach that ain't skeered.

Several times this year after turnovers we have thrown ints "going for it all". If that works its great..so far it has not. Against uga it very well may have cost us the game. The int returned to the 4..turned the game upside down. That has happened several times this season.
With that being said it is hard to deny that our win vs cincy did show what a healthy Bray and Hunter can do. Hunter's presence on the field caused defenses to loosen up, bracket him and left Da rick open to kill them. By now that alone would have scored some points and made our season look alot better than it does now. But thats the hand we are attempting to play now. I also think that combo would have helped the run game along. I said in another post that when aj green was out uga looked alot like we do now. Very slow and unable to score. When he returned uga picked up. Hunter is one of those special kids...we need a few more of those to show up. I go thru this emotional roller coaster about how things have gone this year.With all we have had go bad, injuries and youth its understandable why we struggle. but its hard to watch us be so unprepared at times. We still cant get lined up on defense, cant get the play in on offense and have to use time outs. Those things drive me nuts and are the fault of the coaches. I just hope that something causes these kids to take some pride in that T on their helmet and show some heart sat vs vandy. A loss would be a tough blow to an already taxing season. COME ON BOYS!!! GO VOLS!

GONAVY writes:

Bray will start. Cut the drama. Vanderbilt is preparing for a Bray start per their camp.

VolMan126 writes:

WE ARE ASKING THOSE KIDS TO GIVE IT THEIR ALL! WE NEED TO BE THERE BEHIND THEM LOUD AND CHEER THEM ON AND HELP TURN THIS THING AROUND ON SAT NIGHT!
If you will not do that then shut up and stay at home. They have enough going against them already! GO VOLS SEE IN JJ-KK SAT NIGHT

volpreacher writes:

in response to Jeff_Hall_VFL:

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Looks exactly like Palardy's high school film.

volpreacher writes:

in response to stkdog:

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coach speak. That's all it is. Bray is going to be out there and slinging it. Go Vols.

cloudodust writes:

Bray has garnered a bit of respect, be he questionable or probable. That says something for his level of ability even after missing some weeks. At least Vandy won't be prepping all week to put 11 in the box with one step drop cheaters on 3rd and longs...

OrangeinCarolina2 writes:

in response to BodeaneVol:

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Our former coaches and AD payroll would still not pay the tabs Chompin' Charlie runs up at the local eateries. GO VOLS!

volpreacher writes:

in response to GONAVY:

Bray will start. Cut the drama. Vanderbilt is preparing for a Bray start per their camp.

Preparing to lose.

pms151 writes:

This inadequate coaching staff is going to ruin this young man's career.

vollerdash writes:

Ok i know this isnt along the subject,but if we improve by 50% next year,does this mean we will lose to the s.e.c heavy weights by only 18 to 20 points ?? DOOLEY HAS ONE MORE YEAR !!! remember the guy who hired him is on a golf course in Miami !!

GONAVY writes:

in response to volpreacher:

Preparing to lose.

No, I don't think so. I imagine they're preparing to play their hearts out. They may lose but it will not be because they prepared for such. Off the subject of your pun, the Vanderbilt ticket office sold through its allotment of tickets given to them by UT. They have announced that UT still has plenty of tickets for the public at $50 each and lists the UT ticket department's number. Don't know how many tickets they originally sent VU...

rootin4volz writes:

in response to crappieking:

Dooley is lost. SEC coach? Don't think so. Hart should be looking hard. The search will pick up after Vandy beats us. Sorry but it's the truth. GO VOLS!!!!

Why search? Let's just hire YOU, phooey-king, since you seem to know it all!

deputy658 writes:

in response to pms151:

This inadequate coaching staff is going to ruin this young man's career.

Since this staff is so inadequate , great , lets fire CDD . Let us go to the land of the football gods , of course I'm talkin about Alabama. We will hire Nick Saban and give him a two year 50 million dollar contract IF he can win us the SEC championship by end of year two , only one wrinkle , if he does'nt then he's fired. Sound idiotic, of course it does but thats what some folks on here expect of CDD . the only thing different is the amount of money we are talking about.

totoiv writes:

My concern is Dooley made a big issue out of the need to be bowl eligible at the same point last season when we had to win the last couple of games to qualify. I wish I could find the quote, but to paraphrase, Dooley said, to not make a bowl game and to get the additional 15 practices was unforgiveable and will set a young rebuilding program back a year - that is how important it is. I know he has had a few key injuries and we have had an extremely tough schedule but if we fail to qualify for the bowl I have some major concerns. I think you could argue this team, while young, has still not progressed to where many feel it should be. The offensive line, the defensive backs, the running game in general, have not gotten better. Dooley reminds us to have patience, we are young and inexperience, but if you buy his statement that missing the bowl practices sets a program back a year that is a critical blow to his efforts to revitalize the Vols. Especially, when some fans are saying he must have a dramatic improvement next year to keep his job.

jobrando#216494 writes:

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Unless that happens he'll never see an NFL table. Minimum of 40 pounds needs to be added. Thats why Dooley best get coaches that can get the running game back.

GreeneVol writes:

I have been pleased with Dooley's southern charm being a fit for UT on the surface, but he has been making some disturbing quotes to me the last few weeks. Like the one about RB Toney being 'dismissed' (in an off-hand way?) as a walk-on, like 'an intoxicated Broden' (like the young fella has a drunk's reputation), and now regarding how 'we' & 'he' are in 'LaLaLand':

'I'm the only guy that has any sense of reality in this whole organization.'

Probably just off-the-cuff, crude thumbing-his-nose humor, but it is a turn-off. It sounds arrogant.

jobrando#216494 writes:

in response to totoiv:

My concern is Dooley made a big issue out of the need to be bowl eligible at the same point last season when we had to win the last couple of games to qualify. I wish I could find the quote, but to paraphrase, Dooley said, to not make a bowl game and to get the additional 15 practices was unforgiveable and will set a young rebuilding program back a year - that is how important it is. I know he has had a few key injuries and we have had an extremely tough schedule but if we fail to qualify for the bowl I have some major concerns. I think you could argue this team, while young, has still not progressed to where many feel it should be. The offensive line, the defensive backs, the running game in general, have not gotten better. Dooley reminds us to have patience, we are young and inexperience, but if you buy his statement that missing the bowl practices sets a program back a year that is a critical blow to his efforts to revitalize the Vols. Especially, when some fans are saying he must have a dramatic improvement next year to keep his job.

I think there is a condition he might not get another year and that would be not beating Vandy, Cats, and this years recruiting class dropping into the twenties as a result of such loses. Thats why these next two games will not be lost.

SandySpringsVol writes:

I have to laugh at the range of comments that I've read on these boards over the past few weeks.

UT succeeds on a fake punt against Alabama and that's a savvy decision. UT fails on a fake field goal against Arkansas in a 30 mph wind (in the same end where the Hog kicker later misses a field goal) and that's stupid.

Dooley starts Simms and why isn't Worley in. He brings Worley in and why did he waste the redshirt and the team runs better with Simms at QB. Now Dooley's got to start Bray even though Bray may not be ready.

And regardless, Dooley needs to be fired last week.

I'm sure when Dooley took this job, his dad warned him of the hornet's nest he was walking into. At least we haven't disappointed on that count.

ProfessionalHandicapper writes:

in response to SummittsCourt:

Tyler will start on Saturday. Dooley is smart and will not tip his hand too soon. Make vandy sweat and worry about it all week. They don't know who to prepare for.

He also realizes that if there is a setback he will be prepared for it.

Make Vandy sweat, you gotta be kidding. It doesn't matter who starts at QB for a team that cant run and quits so easily. Vandy will line up and run over UT just like they did kentucky last week, Plus Jordon Rodgers is better than any QB UT sticks on the field, and Vandy is rushing for over 200 yards per game lately. You people are still delusional. UT is horrible in every aspect of football under this staff. They can't kick, punt, cover punts, rush , or tackle. And they sure can't cover in the secondary. Tyler Bray or no Tyler Bray, this is just a terribly coached team lost in the clouds. The wheels have run off the track in Knoxville. It will be evident when Vandy romps the fightless Vols Saturday much like they did to UK. Vandy is well coached and gets every ounce from the talent on hand. Marve is a machine at LB and will go in the first round. Heyward led the Nation in INT's, this Vandy team is tough and hard nosed. UT is as soft as any team I've ever seen in the SEC.

Volunatic writes:

in response to pms151:

This inadequate coaching staff is going to ruin this young man's career.

Looks like "monthly" is back, cranky as ever.

Volunatic writes:

in response to SandySpringsVol:

I have to laugh at the range of comments that I've read on these boards over the past few weeks.

UT succeeds on a fake punt against Alabama and that's a savvy decision. UT fails on a fake field goal against Arkansas in a 30 mph wind (in the same end where the Hog kicker later misses a field goal) and that's stupid.

Dooley starts Simms and why isn't Worley in. He brings Worley in and why did he waste the redshirt and the team runs better with Simms at QB. Now Dooley's got to start Bray even though Bray may not be ready.

And regardless, Dooley needs to be fired last week.

I'm sure when Dooley took this job, his dad warned him of the hornet's nest he was walking into. At least we haven't disappointed on that count.

Good play-by-play. Are you gunning for Kesling's job?

Volunatic writes:

in response to ProfessionalHandicapper:

Make Vandy sweat, you gotta be kidding. It doesn't matter who starts at QB for a team that cant run and quits so easily. Vandy will line up and run over UT just like they did kentucky last week, Plus Jordon Rodgers is better than any QB UT sticks on the field, and Vandy is rushing for over 200 yards per game lately. You people are still delusional. UT is horrible in every aspect of football under this staff. They can't kick, punt, cover punts, rush , or tackle. And they sure can't cover in the secondary. Tyler Bray or no Tyler Bray, this is just a terribly coached team lost in the clouds. The wheels have run off the track in Knoxville. It will be evident when Vandy romps the fightless Vols Saturday much like they did to UK. Vandy is well coached and gets every ounce from the talent on hand. Marve is a machine at LB and will go in the first round. Heyward led the Nation in INT's, this Vandy team is tough and hard nosed. UT is as soft as any team I've ever seen in the SEC.

I didn't watch much basketball this past weekend. How did the Commode Odors do against Youngstown State?

kcbigorngX writes:

in response to ProfessionalHandicapper:

Make Vandy sweat, you gotta be kidding. It doesn't matter who starts at QB for a team that cant run and quits so easily. Vandy will line up and run over UT just like they did kentucky last week, Plus Jordon Rodgers is better than any QB UT sticks on the field, and Vandy is rushing for over 200 yards per game lately. You people are still delusional. UT is horrible in every aspect of football under this staff. They can't kick, punt, cover punts, rush , or tackle. And they sure can't cover in the secondary. Tyler Bray or no Tyler Bray, this is just a terribly coached team lost in the clouds. The wheels have run off the track in Knoxville. It will be evident when Vandy romps the fightless Vols Saturday much like they did to UK. Vandy is well coached and gets every ounce from the talent on hand. Marve is a machine at LB and will go in the first round. Heyward led the Nation in INT's, this Vandy team is tough and hard nosed. UT is as soft as any team I've ever seen in the SEC.

Hey VandyGrad...You're talking a lot of smack right now, but come Saturday you'll find out it's just the same old Vandy.

It will be as plain as that tunnel between you're teeth.

jobrando#216494 writes:

in response to ProfessionalHandicapper:

Make Vandy sweat, you gotta be kidding. It doesn't matter who starts at QB for a team that cant run and quits so easily. Vandy will line up and run over UT just like they did kentucky last week, Plus Jordon Rodgers is better than any QB UT sticks on the field, and Vandy is rushing for over 200 yards per game lately. You people are still delusional. UT is horrible in every aspect of football under this staff. They can't kick, punt, cover punts, rush , or tackle. And they sure can't cover in the secondary. Tyler Bray or no Tyler Bray, this is just a terribly coached team lost in the clouds. The wheels have run off the track in Knoxville. It will be evident when Vandy romps the fightless Vols Saturday much like they did to UK. Vandy is well coached and gets every ounce from the talent on hand. Marve is a machine at LB and will go in the first round. Heyward led the Nation in INT's, this Vandy team is tough and hard nosed. UT is as soft as any team I've ever seen in the SEC.

This is one of the games the team has been told they must win. All the others they sat on the bench eating doughnuts. It is a very wierd coaching approch but you will see after Saturday.

daporter22#1402249 writes:

Don't tip your hand with Vandy and make them prepare for all 3 quarterbacks. A decent offense that moves the chains will keep Vandy's Offense off the field along with our streaky Defense....you shut out MTSU and can't tackle a hog at Arkansas? That's focus, discipline and technique. Tyler Bray will at the very least give the leadership to engineer a win. The special team debacles bring back Pop Warner memories. Just move the chains and you want have to use your kicker to pass for a 1st down.

TheCopper writes:

in response to MerlOT_GoVols:

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Scrub

tennvolsman19651965 writes:

in response to SandySpringsVol:

I have to laugh at the range of comments that I've read on these boards over the past few weeks.

UT succeeds on a fake punt against Alabama and that's a savvy decision. UT fails on a fake field goal against Arkansas in a 30 mph wind (in the same end where the Hog kicker later misses a field goal) and that's stupid.

Dooley starts Simms and why isn't Worley in. He brings Worley in and why did he waste the redshirt and the team runs better with Simms at QB. Now Dooley's got to start Bray even though Bray may not be ready.

And regardless, Dooley needs to be fired last week.

I'm sure when Dooley took this job, his dad warned him of the hornet's nest he was walking into. At least we haven't disappointed on that count.

Nice job! Even though I have to admit that I have been guilty of exactly what you entered there. Regardless of that, Great Blog Entry!

brokendownoldvol writes:

The KY game will really be something for the talking heads to talk about. The two absolutely worst coached teams in Div I battling it out. Dooley/Chaney/Wilcox vs. Joker/Sanders. Damn that will be really painful to watch.

Down_The_Field writes:

in response to ProfessionalHandicapper:

Make Vandy sweat, you gotta be kidding. It doesn't matter who starts at QB for a team that cant run and quits so easily. Vandy will line up and run over UT just like they did kentucky last week, Plus Jordon Rodgers is better than any QB UT sticks on the field, and Vandy is rushing for over 200 yards per game lately. You people are still delusional. UT is horrible in every aspect of football under this staff. They can't kick, punt, cover punts, rush , or tackle. And they sure can't cover in the secondary. Tyler Bray or no Tyler Bray, this is just a terribly coached team lost in the clouds. The wheels have run off the track in Knoxville. It will be evident when Vandy romps the fightless Vols Saturday much like they did to UK. Vandy is well coached and gets every ounce from the talent on hand. Marve is a machine at LB and will go in the first round. Heyward led the Nation in INT's, this Vandy team is tough and hard nosed. UT is as soft as any team I've ever seen in the SEC.

i see lil peeeebody boy is crying out for significance.

jordan rogers is better than any UT QB? why? because of his last name?

if rogers is so dam good, how come he's had 10 games to pass bray in total yards passing and hasn't. bray's only played in 5 games and still has over 400 yards more in passing.

rogers is ranked 7th in the sec statistically. he's even below brantley.

....but maybe he's a better cross dresser.

OldNumber7 writes:

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It's probably because boneheads like yourself can't do math. You see, David Cutcliffe used to say if he could get 30 ppg that was all an offense could ask for. And he's right, because it takes a lot of load off a defense and will win you most games through time of possession, etc...

Dooley takes over the program and pre Tyler Bray's start against Memphis Tennessee scores 21.8 ppg...not good enough. Bray and his dynamic receivers Hunter and Rogers then rattle off a 35.4 ppg average the rest of 2010..good enough for any team to win a lot of games.

The average becomes 43.5 ppg in 2011 (Dooley is starting to look like a genius). Then Hunter goes down. Remember, this trio worked all off season together and shattered Peyton Mannings records at UT very quickly (Dooley is still a genius).

Now after Hunter goes down UT's ppg drops to an erratic 25.3...not good enough. Oops...now Bray is out....down to 9.4 ppg. And you people blame Dooley? Are you people not smart enough to realize this high-scoring trio have NOT played an October yet?!!

To think some people are having a hard time figuring this out. Two thirds of this Peyton Manning, record-shattering 40ppg from 2010-2011 trio go down, and everyone expects Dooley to "adjust". Adjust with what? His dang team is 3/4 freshmen and sophomores...playing the toughest teams in the friggin nation! Nevermind that this is the same staff that racked up more yards and broke UT all-time records in just 8 games. Do you think the 2011 game plan is a little messed up?

This coaching staff has already demonstrated that with good players can compete with anyone. When those good players are gone...well it gets tough. I suggest the impatient idiot portion of the fan base develop a hobby and wait til the depth, experience, and injury status allows them to actually coach. I saw enough lightening in 2010/2011 to figure it will return very soon.

tennvolsman19651965 writes:

in response to OldNumber7:

It's probably because boneheads like yourself can't do math. You see, David Cutcliffe used to say if he could get 30 ppg that was all an offense could ask for. And he's right, because it takes a lot of load off a defense and will win you most games through time of possession, etc...

Dooley takes over the program and pre Tyler Bray's start against Memphis Tennessee scores 21.8 ppg...not good enough. Bray and his dynamic receivers Hunter and Rogers then rattle off a 35.4 ppg average the rest of 2010..good enough for any team to win a lot of games.

The average becomes 43.5 ppg in 2011 (Dooley is starting to look like a genius). Then Hunter goes down. Remember, this trio worked all off season together and shattered Peyton Mannings records at UT very quickly (Dooley is still a genius).

Now after Hunter goes down UT's ppg drops to an erratic 25.3...not good enough. Oops...now Bray is out....down to 9.4 ppg. And you people blame Dooley? Are you people not smart enough to realize this high-scoring trio have NOT played an October yet?!!

To think some people are having a hard time figuring this out. Two thirds of this Peyton Manning, record-shattering 40ppg from 2010-2011 trio go down, and everyone expects Dooley to "adjust". Adjust with what? His dang team is 3/4 freshmen and sophomores...playing the toughest teams in the friggin nation! Nevermind that this is the same staff that racked up more yards and broke UT all-time records in just 8 games. Do you think the 2011 game plan is a little messed up?

This coaching staff has already demonstrated that with good players can compete with anyone. When those good players are gone...well it gets tough. I suggest the impatient idiot portion of the fan base develop a hobby and wait til the depth, experience, and injury status allows them to actually coach. I saw enough lightening in 2010/2011 to figure it will return very soon.

While I can respect your view point, we havent seen this dynamic trio play against the "Big Boys" in the SEC yet. Maybe next year, so we can only assume that we would perform well against them. I believe that we may have won 2 of our 6 losses with a healthy Hunter, Bray and Rodgers. But the fact still remains, you cannot win in every SEC game without a running game. Peyton didnt win a national title, Martin did. I love Tyler Bray and his receivers, but they would not have competed with BAMA or LSU without a running game.

tennvolsman19651965 writes:

in response to OldNumber7:

It's probably because boneheads like yourself can't do math. You see, David Cutcliffe used to say if he could get 30 ppg that was all an offense could ask for. And he's right, because it takes a lot of load off a defense and will win you most games through time of possession, etc...

Dooley takes over the program and pre Tyler Bray's start against Memphis Tennessee scores 21.8 ppg...not good enough. Bray and his dynamic receivers Hunter and Rogers then rattle off a 35.4 ppg average the rest of 2010..good enough for any team to win a lot of games.

The average becomes 43.5 ppg in 2011 (Dooley is starting to look like a genius). Then Hunter goes down. Remember, this trio worked all off season together and shattered Peyton Mannings records at UT very quickly (Dooley is still a genius).

Now after Hunter goes down UT's ppg drops to an erratic 25.3...not good enough. Oops...now Bray is out....down to 9.4 ppg. And you people blame Dooley? Are you people not smart enough to realize this high-scoring trio have NOT played an October yet?!!

To think some people are having a hard time figuring this out. Two thirds of this Peyton Manning, record-shattering 40ppg from 2010-2011 trio go down, and everyone expects Dooley to "adjust". Adjust with what? His dang team is 3/4 freshmen and sophomores...playing the toughest teams in the friggin nation! Nevermind that this is the same staff that racked up more yards and broke UT all-time records in just 8 games. Do you think the 2011 game plan is a little messed up?

This coaching staff has already demonstrated that with good players can compete with anyone. When those good players are gone...well it gets tough. I suggest the impatient idiot portion of the fan base develop a hobby and wait til the depth, experience, and injury status allows them to actually coach. I saw enough lightening in 2010/2011 to figure it will return very soon.

One other thing that needs mentioning, Manning usually played a much more impressive non conference schedule than Montana, Buffalo and MTSU!

TheCopper writes:

in response to MerlOT_GoVols:

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"Noobie"? Just making up words as you go along, huh!
Actually I was asking him a straightforward question. What are you, his secretary? When I need you for something, I'll let you know, merlidiot!
By the way, it seems strange he never replied. I guess I might have my answer.

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