David Climer: James Franklin, Derek Dooley coach up heat of rivalry



— Surprise, surprise. It turns out that Derek Dooley and James Franklin need each other after all.

Just when boredom was settling in on the alleged football rivalry between Tennessee and Vanderbilt, a controversial finish on Saturday night and the post-game furor it spawned have put the opposing coaches at odds.

If nothing else, it looks like Dooley has finally found a willing sparring partner. Nobody else that he plays on an annual basis offers any real push-back.

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Vol-in-GA writes:

Yawn! This really is getting old, game over, Vols win (as usual). Vandy states wait until next year (as usual). Same as every year, just different coaches.

easleychuck writes:

When Vandy beats UT, they can celebrate in their lockerroom. That is what the winning team does.

Absolutely nothing to see here.

HallowedHill writes:

Franklin's antics after the Georgia game tell me all I need to know about the guy. Classless and clueless.

allvolinatlanta writes:

Dooley has a snake in his house. Remember the posted picture from the preseason showing the "Opportunity is Nowhere" sign. The trolls on this board had a field day with that ignoring the fact that is a slogan used by many, many businesses to convey positive feelings about the fact that "Opportunity is Now Here"

Quit whining Franklin it was in the privacy of his own locker room. This type thing happens everywhere!

Goodvol_1 writes:

I think Climer said it best when he said, "Vanderbilt is riding high while Rocky Top remains near rock bottom."

Yet, all it did was make Vandy close to being able to beat us. What happens after we improve back to respectability and Vandy realizes they are still Vandy? We all go back, including Vandy, marking this game down as a Vol win before the game.

stevefrommemphis writes:

Franklin does have a point. Why is Tennessee acting like they won the Super Bowl when they beat Vanderbilt?

The result will be the same next year. Unlike most previous years, Tennessee was the team with injury and depth problems in November. Vanderbilt missed their chance to beat UT last Saturday.

SummittsCourt writes:

28 of 29 victories over one opponent does not a rivalry make.

Time to nut up or shut up Franklin! And for you just shut up!

CrankE writes:

Locker room celebrations happen all the time when teams win a game. Franklin should know tha . . . . oh wait, he's at Vandy. Suddenly the picture becomes clear. They WOULDN'T know much about that would they?

On another note, did the "Kiffin Rule" suddenly expire? The SEC was fining everyone who even cast a smirk in the direction of Gainesville or Tuscaloosa or league officials a few years ago. Not a peep though for Lane Franklin.

Sir_Spanky writes:

The reason for the anger is their unfamiliarity with typical activities in a winning locker room.

HallowedHill writes:

in response to stevefrommemphis:

Franklin does have a point. Why is Tennessee acting like they won the Super Bowl when they beat Vanderbilt?

The result will be the same next year. Unlike most previous years, Tennessee was the team with injury and depth problems in November. Vanderbilt missed their chance to beat UT last Saturday.

For a Vandy fan, you aren't very smart. Tennessee was excited, not because they beat the perennial doormat, but because they overcame the biggest hurdle to becoming bowl eligible.

Enjoy the close games while they lasted, Dooley's next class will close up the majority of the depth issues, and our team next year will compete for the SEC East title. Vanderbilt will still be duking it out with Kentucky for the bottom of the barrel and Franklin will start eying another bottom-tier school.

Mark it.

chuckfromwoodbury writes:

Franklin is a punk. His words and his actions indicate as such. Loser.

bigerb30 writes:

The press is really looking for a story if this is all they can talk about. There are lots of youtube videos of stuff like this. Let it go for this year, wait till next, and watch us celibrate the same way next year in vandys locker room. GO VOLS!!!

bUTchVFL writes:

This whole thing has been so blown out of proportion. Every team in the country has big celebrations in the locker room after an emotional win. We'll win 9-10 games next year, and Vandy will go back to being Vandy.

CoverOrange writes:

Franklin is Kiffin-lite.

jjsteel writes:

Vandypants a rivalry? Ha! it's called dominance.

jjsteel writes:

State champ's GBO

TommyJack writes:

Much ado about nada.

bigerb30 writes:

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Your funny.

KFDLaw writes:

Franklin is a decent coach and the Vandy people have high hopes for their program. Franklin will use Dooley's locker room comments to pump up the Vandy players for next year's game. The classless person in this whole controversy is the one who took the locker room video and posted it on the web.

VolQB writes:

Franklin thinks he is the only competitive guy in the room. What a joke. Unless they give him a giant field TV that he can see himself while coaching, he will be gone in 2 years. "Kiffin-lite" was a great line.

I always told my player to celebrate after a win. That is the payoff from hardwork. Come next practice you get back to work.

volboy81 writes:

Hey Franklin...you mentioned respect....RESPECT is something you EARN, not somthing youre given. Vanderbilt hasnt done ANYTHING in the last 50-75 years to earn anyones respect, so before you start whining about not having any, do something to earn some!
GO VOLS!!!

ProfessionalHandicapper writes:

Climer is wrong, Dooley has coached UT down while Franklin has coached Vandy up, so now there is a rivalry again. As long as Dooley is on the sideline in Knoxville Vandy and kentucky games will be very close and nobody expects to play with the big boys, including Georgia. Dooley was so happy because he knew he came within inches of sealing his doom in Knoxville. I just wanted to see all the excuses his Momma made if he lost to Vandy. Hopefully she can use them after the Kentucky game.

bUTchVFL writes:

in response to ProfessionalHandicapper:

Climer is wrong, Dooley has coached UT down while Franklin has coached Vandy up, so now there is a rivalry again. As long as Dooley is on the sideline in Knoxville Vandy and kentucky games will be very close and nobody expects to play with the big boys, including Georgia. Dooley was so happy because he knew he came within inches of sealing his doom in Knoxville. I just wanted to see all the excuses his Momma made if he lost to Vandy. Hopefully she can use them after the Kentucky game.

Book it. We win 9-10 games next year, with losses to Bama, UGa, and a third possible. If we are 6-6 next year I'll be on board with all the Dooley haters and be all in that we need to start looking for a new coach.

sidwalkvol writes:

in response to ProfessionalHandicapper:

Climer is wrong, Dooley has coached UT down while Franklin has coached Vandy up, so now there is a rivalry again. As long as Dooley is on the sideline in Knoxville Vandy and kentucky games will be very close and nobody expects to play with the big boys, including Georgia. Dooley was so happy because he knew he came within inches of sealing his doom in Knoxville. I just wanted to see all the excuses his Momma made if he lost to Vandy. Hopefully she can use them after the Kentucky game.

Know where I can put down a bet on that? Aren't you the guy who had us losing to the dores by double digits? Say hi to your boyfriend for us.

VolQB writes:

Why comment to known trollers? Let them pass like flappen butt cheek gas.

CantStandCantStandSaban writes:

in response to VolQB:

Why comment to known trollers? Let them pass like flappen butt cheek gas.

+1

But I admit, sometimes it's difficult to resist.

Colliervol writes:

It is not generally considered a "rivalry" when one team has beaten the other 28 of 29 times (or whatever the figure is). Vandy is going to have to win one every now and then to even discuss this as a "rivalry". This sounds very reminiscent of Gerry Dinardo. Trying to generate something from nothing.

shoelessvol#236864 writes:

Give Coach Franklin his due. He has done a nice job with the Dores this year...however he did inherit a team with 19 returning starters, mostly juniors and seniors...and they have been more competitive against similar foes than the Vols have. However he has forgotten that when Vandy plays the Vols...Vnady will ALWAYS be Vandy and the Vols will ALWAYS win!!

gbojrj writes:

I've been waiting to see this in print, and may have missed it. But wasn't last Saturdays win over Vandy Dooley's first "upset" win as Tn coach? The turn around as begun!!!

underthehill writes:

in response to KFDLaw:

Franklin is a decent coach and the Vandy people have high hopes for their program. Franklin will use Dooley's locker room comments to pump up the Vandy players for next year's game. The classless person in this whole controversy is the one who took the locker room video and posted it on the web.

THE evidence is clear Franklin has done an excellent job at Vandy..It appears both TN and Vandy will be better next year..SO the outcome next year will be decided by which team improves the most..not by what happened this year..

underthehill writes:

in response to Colliervol:

It is not generally considered a "rivalry" when one team has beaten the other 28 of 29 times (or whatever the figure is). Vandy is going to have to win one every now and then to even discuss this as a "rivalry". This sounds very reminiscent of Gerry Dinardo. Trying to generate something from nothing.

How many teams qualify as rivals..what one team sees as a rivalry ..the other team may not..In the case of bama..their #1 rivalry would be Auburn..then perhaps Geo, Fla and LSU..so from our standpoint Ala -TN may be rivalry..probably not for bama..who would be the # 1 rival for TN?

vol49 writes:

in response to ProfessionalHandicapper:

Climer is wrong, Dooley has coached UT down while Franklin has coached Vandy up, so now there is a rivalry again. As long as Dooley is on the sideline in Knoxville Vandy and kentucky games will be very close and nobody expects to play with the big boys, including Georgia. Dooley was so happy because he knew he came within inches of sealing his doom in Knoxville. I just wanted to see all the excuses his Momma made if he lost to Vandy. Hopefully she can use them after the Kentucky game.

You said "Dooley and his Momma are an excuse a minute, and the players have no confidence. Vandy by double digits." Gotta tell ya that you wouldn't believe all the excuses your Momma made for you before she left our 'game' but I gotta tell you, she sure did smack while the game was on. Boy oh boy her mouth ain’t handicapped! Dang!

FanNotSheep writes:

Whether anyone admits it or not, Vanderbilt's new coach is recruiting better than any Vandy coach I can remember. Look at Stanford and you can see that it is possible for an academic school to have success. It will be harder to pull off in the SEC than the PAC-12 but if he keeps getting quality players he can make them better than they've been.

I don't think either team is going to be representing the East Division in Atlanta next year. But it should be a good game in Nashville. I don't see any reason for a UT fan to make fun of Vandy or anybody else right now.

Look back to Peyton's playing career and see how close our games were with Vanderbilt. We always get their best shot, we just usually are good enough to withstand it.

Tru138 writes:

in response to ProfessionalHandicapper:

Climer is wrong, Dooley has coached UT down while Franklin has coached Vandy up, so now there is a rivalry again. As long as Dooley is on the sideline in Knoxville Vandy and kentucky games will be very close and nobody expects to play with the big boys, including Georgia. Dooley was so happy because he knew he came within inches of sealing his doom in Knoxville. I just wanted to see all the excuses his Momma made if he lost to Vandy. Hopefully she can use them after the Kentucky game.

Thought you had nothing else to say. Knew you were lying.

DennisVols writes:

Exactly what I want to see from a coach who has a team that is 80% sophomores and freshmen. That has played the toughest schedule in the conference against many of the toughest teams in the nation.
I want these kids coached up; I want to see the mental part of how it feels to win injected into a team that has had to face the mental part of losing too often.
Now before the “we should have never fired coach Fulmer” folks pipe in on this. His record against the SEC elite was a combined record of 4-12 against UF, Auburn, Bama, LSU, and GA over the last 4 years of Fulmer’s career at UT. Those years several of the listed teams were not as good as they are now.
Yes it was Vandy but a Vandy team that had played the same opponents UT had this year to better finishes than UT had.
Some keep asking is this what UT has shrunk down to. Maybe so. But Dooley didn’t take UT to this point it was already there. In Fulmar’s final 4 years there were losses to Vandy and Wyoming. Wyoming was a team without a winning record in a conference that had no teams that could compete in the SEC. The Lane train depleted this team of its senior leadership that would have been on this years and last year’s teams. The ones every good team depends on to coach up the young players during times of adversity because they have gone through them before.
So let coach Dooley make something big about this win because after the 6 prior weeks it was big. Big because they didn’t quit when adversity showed up, big because they played through a lot of short comings in depth, experience, injuries and leadership at the player level. Big because the call finally went with UT instead of against them.
I know more about overcoming adversity, becoming more than what the experts say you can, succeeding when you are expected to fail than anyone else I know. I know firsthand how the little victories can feed bigger ones down the line and how encouragement gain through doing something everybody else does with ease is still important in the road to recovery. I am a disabled Veteran. I respect what this coach is doing to rebuild this team.

Keeping it Real
GoVols!!!

DRORANGELOVE writes:

in response to Abdul_Wauhatchie_Tiftonia_Rahman_of_Orange:

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Abdul old buddy, you're beginning to make me think you don't like Coach Dooley. Or is it that you're just an ignorant dumbazz who does,nt know what the hades you're talking about ???? Why don't you go get on the Fla. Vandy, or Ala websites and share your limitless knowledge of football with them and spare us the agony of having to put up with your ignorance.

pfvolfan writes:

He better close that wound. A year from now the infection could be fatal.

stratocaster54 writes:

As I understand it, a rivalry assumes a certain level of competitiveness on both sides. If one side can only win 1 out of 29 competitions, does it still count as a rivalry?

volsgirl writes:

in response to bUTchVFL:

This whole thing has been so blown out of proportion. Every team in the country has big celebrations in the locker room after an emotional win. We'll win 9-10 games next year, and Vandy will go back to being Vandy.

+A

Colliervol writes:

in response to underthehill:

How many teams qualify as rivals..what one team sees as a rivalry ..the other team may not..In the case of bama..their #1 rivalry would be Auburn..then perhaps Geo, Fla and LSU..so from our standpoint Ala -TN may be rivalry..probably not for bama..who would be the # 1 rival for TN?

Auburn is always going to be Bama's #1 rival but, among my Bama friends, UT is their #2 from an historical standpoint.

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