Derek Dooley still making no excuses: 'They're not going to feel sorry for me'

Dooley still not making any excuses

Tennessee players begin to prepare for LSU

Game summary: Tennessee vs. Georgia

Tennessee reacts to losing QB Tyler Bray for 5-6 weeks with a broken thumb

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Tennessee head coach Derek Dooley talks to a referee about a call during Saturday's game against Georgia at Neyland Stadium. UT lost to the Bulldogs, 20-12.

Photo by Amy Smotherman Burgess, ©KNS/2011

Amy Smotherman Burgess/News Sentinel Tennessee head coach Derek Dooley talks to a referee about a call during Saturday's game against Georgia at Neyland Stadium. UT lost to the Bulldogs, 20-12.

Had Derek Dooley been so inclined, there was a ready-make excuse even before the first day of practice, thanks to the lack of veterans on his roster.

The Tennessee coach could have pointed out another after dismissing arguably his best player in the middle of training camp.

Now nearing the halfway point of the season with a date against top-ranked LSU at Neyland Stadium on Saturday (TV: WVLT, 3:30 p.m.), Dooley has one more new option to pre-emptively temper expectations or justify a possible loss after another significant injury struck the Vols over the weekend.

But like he's done while looking at an inexperienced roster or torn knee ligaments for wide receiver Justin Hunter, parting ways with safety Janzen Jackson or preparing a new linebacker after Herman Lathers fractured his ankle, Dooley is again focusing only on what he can do to address the loss of Tyler Bray instead of wasting time complaining about his quarterback's broken thumb.

"When I was sitting around (before the season), I didn't plan on not having Herman and Janzen and Tyler and Justin," Dooley said during his Monday news conference. "Had I known that, I would have rolled up my sleeves and you go to work.

What do you do? Nobody's going to feel sorry for Tennessee and they're not going to feel sorry for me, and that's OK.

"But I'm not going to go in the tank because we've had some things that happened to us that make it a lot more challenging. Anybody can go in the tank and blame. We've just got to find solutions. That's what we're going to do — compete like men."

The competition hardly gets much stiffer than the No. 1 Tigers (6-0, 3-0 SEC), and the timing seemingly couldn't be much worse for the Vols (3-2, 0-2 SEC) to have to make a change under center with one of the most physical defenses in the country coming for a visit. But unlike some of the previous injury issues he has had to address, at quarterback Dooley couldn't even use youth as an excuse if he wanted to.

When Lathers went down over the summer, his starting role was subsequently filled by a true freshman. When Jackson was kicked off the team, the Vols shuffled the secondary and started a freshman at cornerback in the opener and are now easing another into a role at safety.

After losing Hunter at Florida a little more than three weeks ago, UT plugged in one more true freshman to lead the team in catches in a losing effort.

But in Matt Simms, the Vols have a senior coming off the bench to take over the offense — one who was seconds away from pulling a major upset over LSU a year ago.

"Football is a game of injuries, and it's the next man in," left guard Alex Bullard said. "We're all feeling bad about Tyler and hope he gets back soon. But we're also excited for Matt because we know Matt works just as hard as anybody, he runs every sprint that we run, he conditions like we condition, and now he finally gets his opportunity. I really believe he's going to take advantage of it.

"Obviously, Justin, Herman and Bray, they're all great players. But, I mean, that's why you have a two-deep depth chart, a three-deep depth chart. I'm not going to say it's not going to hurt without them being out there, but we have confidence in the players that are backing up."

The Vols have already had to give a handful of them larger roles than expected, often with their first significant action in the program.

That's one product of having a roster short on juniors and seniors, and UT really has little choice but to play so many fresh faces.

Of course, another option to blaming some losses in the past on that fact is looking to the future and what the experience might bring later.

"I don't have any doubts that Tennessee is going to be what Tennessee expects to be," Dooley said. "But we also have to confront some tough, brutal facts that we're facing right now. Is it going to be tough? You're dang right. But you're presented with a set of circumstances every day and you can't change what's happened in the past.

"You've got to do deal with the circumstances you're presented with and go after it the best you can."

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DennisVols writes:

So before all those who choose to get on here and rant about how bad this team is and want to run CDD out of town.
Let’s take a look at the facts that got this team to this point.
From 1999 until 2008: Coach Fulmer
UT was 13 – 20 against Bama, LSU, Auburn, UF and GA (this does not include losses to the likes of Vandy, Wyoming)
UT was 3 -5 in bowl games and 2 years did not even qualify for a bowl.
2005 with 19 starters returning and a preseason prediction to win the conference and a shot at a national title UT finished 5 -7 with 19 players that were either arrested, thrown off the team or involved in some sort of incident needing discipline.
That was coach Fulmer. I am not a Fulmer hater but you get on here and wish he was back and his record was worse than the coach we now have during those latter years.
It had been 3 years since UT signed a top 10 recruiting class before Fulmer was fired.
Kiffin’s one and done class has not one of the 4 & 5 star recruits still on the team. Those are the players we look to for leadership. They would be the seniors and juniors on this team and they are no longer around.
There is no senior leadership left on this team with few expectations. The team was short 19 scholarship players when CDD was hired. Not because of anything Dooley did but because of the previous 2 coaches and an AD that should have been fired for hiring Kiffin.
This team may have some good talent now but it does not have the experience necessary to compete against teams that have greater depth at almost every position.
No senior leadership with experience in the defensive backfield following Jackson’s dismissal. If you do not think having most of your defensive players playing new positions with no experience leadership on the field will affect their abilities then you know nothing of the sport.
Dooley deserves the opportunity to rebuild this program. A 20 – 12 loss is not a win but it beats the heck out of the 41 – 14 loss last year.
It took 11 years and 2 different coaches to mess this once competitive team into the mess it was when Dooley was hired. It will take longer than 1 ½ season to straighten it out.
So before you let your emotions over-ride common sense about how bad you believe this coaching staff is take a good look at all the facts. You remember the National Championship and the middle 90’s like that was the last thing coach Fulmer did. It was not.
Keeping it Real
GoVols!!!

VolSkins writes:

in response to DennisVols:

So before all those who choose to get on here and rant about how bad this team is and want to run CDD out of town.
Let’s take a look at the facts that got this team to this point.
From 1999 until 2008: Coach Fulmer
UT was 13 – 20 against Bama, LSU, Auburn, UF and GA (this does not include losses to the likes of Vandy, Wyoming)
UT was 3 -5 in bowl games and 2 years did not even qualify for a bowl.
2005 with 19 starters returning and a preseason prediction to win the conference and a shot at a national title UT finished 5 -7 with 19 players that were either arrested, thrown off the team or involved in some sort of incident needing discipline.
That was coach Fulmer. I am not a Fulmer hater but you get on here and wish he was back and his record was worse than the coach we now have during those latter years.
It had been 3 years since UT signed a top 10 recruiting class before Fulmer was fired.
Kiffin’s one and done class has not one of the 4 & 5 star recruits still on the team. Those are the players we look to for leadership. They would be the seniors and juniors on this team and they are no longer around.
There is no senior leadership left on this team with few expectations. The team was short 19 scholarship players when CDD was hired. Not because of anything Dooley did but because of the previous 2 coaches and an AD that should have been fired for hiring Kiffin.
This team may have some good talent now but it does not have the experience necessary to compete against teams that have greater depth at almost every position.
No senior leadership with experience in the defensive backfield following Jackson’s dismissal. If you do not think having most of your defensive players playing new positions with no experience leadership on the field will affect their abilities then you know nothing of the sport.
Dooley deserves the opportunity to rebuild this program. A 20 – 12 loss is not a win but it beats the heck out of the 41 – 14 loss last year.
It took 11 years and 2 different coaches to mess this once competitive team into the mess it was when Dooley was hired. It will take longer than 1 ½ season to straighten it out.
So before you let your emotions over-ride common sense about how bad you believe this coaching staff is take a good look at all the facts. You remember the National Championship and the middle 90’s like that was the last thing coach Fulmer did. It was not.
Keeping it Real
GoVols!!!

Couldn't agree more

RemembertheAlamo writes:

I agree, but I cannot figure why out of a school of over 30 thousands students we cannot have an open try out for a Center, there should be one person at the school that can center the ball.
We are using an All American Guard to center the ball. If we had a center then we could move Stone back to Guard....I can get off the soap box now.

OrangeinCarolina2 writes:

in response to DennisVols:

So before all those who choose to get on here and rant about how bad this team is and want to run CDD out of town.
Let’s take a look at the facts that got this team to this point.
From 1999 until 2008: Coach Fulmer
UT was 13 – 20 against Bama, LSU, Auburn, UF and GA (this does not include losses to the likes of Vandy, Wyoming)
UT was 3 -5 in bowl games and 2 years did not even qualify for a bowl.
2005 with 19 starters returning and a preseason prediction to win the conference and a shot at a national title UT finished 5 -7 with 19 players that were either arrested, thrown off the team or involved in some sort of incident needing discipline.
That was coach Fulmer. I am not a Fulmer hater but you get on here and wish he was back and his record was worse than the coach we now have during those latter years.
It had been 3 years since UT signed a top 10 recruiting class before Fulmer was fired.
Kiffin’s one and done class has not one of the 4 & 5 star recruits still on the team. Those are the players we look to for leadership. They would be the seniors and juniors on this team and they are no longer around.
There is no senior leadership left on this team with few expectations. The team was short 19 scholarship players when CDD was hired. Not because of anything Dooley did but because of the previous 2 coaches and an AD that should have been fired for hiring Kiffin.
This team may have some good talent now but it does not have the experience necessary to compete against teams that have greater depth at almost every position.
No senior leadership with experience in the defensive backfield following Jackson’s dismissal. If you do not think having most of your defensive players playing new positions with no experience leadership on the field will affect their abilities then you know nothing of the sport.
Dooley deserves the opportunity to rebuild this program. A 20 – 12 loss is not a win but it beats the heck out of the 41 – 14 loss last year.
It took 11 years and 2 different coaches to mess this once competitive team into the mess it was when Dooley was hired. It will take longer than 1 ½ season to straighten it out.
So before you let your emotions over-ride common sense about how bad you believe this coaching staff is take a good look at all the facts. You remember the National Championship and the middle 90’s like that was the last thing coach Fulmer did. It was not.
Keeping it Real
GoVols!!!

That's a 5-star post! I believe in CDD's leadership and philosophy. He deserves 3-4 years before any type of judgement is made. Let's get behind the Vols and see what can be salvaged this year. As Dooley said before the Georgia game-one game, win or lose, don't make a season. Our youthful, injury riddled team should could use the support of true fans. GO VOLS!

VolGrad writes:

DennisVols:

You're making way too much sense for certain people on this site. They can't follow all those actual stats, especially when you state them in their proper context. Try embellishing those facts a bit, or better yet..., just make up some stats to fit your argument. Now that would be something they would understand.

Go Vols!

AZ_Vol writes:

" Anybody can go in the tank and blame. We've just got to find solutions. That's what we're going to do — compete like men."

Compete like men. Indeed.

Go Big Orange

Timbo_Slice writes:

Wow! Some positive posts tonight! Wasn't expecting that. Very well said dv! Agree with pretty much everything you said. As if all the things that you stated that got us to this point were'nt bad enough, every player we lose to injury or otherwise seems to be a key player and its hard to fill the void with all true freshman. Hoping things get better in the near future. GO VOLS!

tngilmer writes:

in response to DennisVols:

So before all those who choose to get on here and rant about how bad this team is and want to run CDD out of town.
Let’s take a look at the facts that got this team to this point.
From 1999 until 2008: Coach Fulmer
UT was 13 – 20 against Bama, LSU, Auburn, UF and GA (this does not include losses to the likes of Vandy, Wyoming)
UT was 3 -5 in bowl games and 2 years did not even qualify for a bowl.
2005 with 19 starters returning and a preseason prediction to win the conference and a shot at a national title UT finished 5 -7 with 19 players that were either arrested, thrown off the team or involved in some sort of incident needing discipline.
That was coach Fulmer. I am not a Fulmer hater but you get on here and wish he was back and his record was worse than the coach we now have during those latter years.
It had been 3 years since UT signed a top 10 recruiting class before Fulmer was fired.
Kiffin’s one and done class has not one of the 4 & 5 star recruits still on the team. Those are the players we look to for leadership. They would be the seniors and juniors on this team and they are no longer around.
There is no senior leadership left on this team with few expectations. The team was short 19 scholarship players when CDD was hired. Not because of anything Dooley did but because of the previous 2 coaches and an AD that should have been fired for hiring Kiffin.
This team may have some good talent now but it does not have the experience necessary to compete against teams that have greater depth at almost every position.
No senior leadership with experience in the defensive backfield following Jackson’s dismissal. If you do not think having most of your defensive players playing new positions with no experience leadership on the field will affect their abilities then you know nothing of the sport.
Dooley deserves the opportunity to rebuild this program. A 20 – 12 loss is not a win but it beats the heck out of the 41 – 14 loss last year.
It took 11 years and 2 different coaches to mess this once competitive team into the mess it was when Dooley was hired. It will take longer than 1 ½ season to straighten it out.
So before you let your emotions over-ride common sense about how bad you believe this coaching staff is take a good look at all the facts. You remember the National Championship and the middle 90’s like that was the last thing coach Fulmer did. It was not.
Keeping it Real
GoVols!!!

I just hope you are right.

ReVolver writes:

I am here to tell you, Dooley is the guy to get this team going in the right direction. Obvious intensity, work ethic, integrity, and attention to detail.

The negative anti-Dooley gripers (who haven't yet shown up here, as of when I started typing this) like to manufacture all kinds of irrelevant junk about why he's not the guy for us, and are apparently too ignorant to see the big picture here.

I think what it really comes down to, is that they just don't like his personality. He's obviously a smart guy, and I think he just doesn't fit the preconceived notion of what a coach 'should' be, held by some of the BACKWARDS DRUNKEN REDNECK HICKS in our fanbase.

See how easy it is to be mean and lose a sense of decency when everything is anonymous online? I probably shouldn't let it get to me, but I worry that someone who is in a position to make decisions about the future of our football program might someday give one ounce of consideration to some of the garbage that sometimes gets spewed out here on the message boards.

RustyVol writes:

in response to DennisVols:

So before all those who choose to get on here and rant about how bad this team is and want to run CDD out of town.
Let’s take a look at the facts that got this team to this point.
From 1999 until 2008: Coach Fulmer
UT was 13 – 20 against Bama, LSU, Auburn, UF and GA (this does not include losses to the likes of Vandy, Wyoming)
UT was 3 -5 in bowl games and 2 years did not even qualify for a bowl.
2005 with 19 starters returning and a preseason prediction to win the conference and a shot at a national title UT finished 5 -7 with 19 players that were either arrested, thrown off the team or involved in some sort of incident needing discipline.
That was coach Fulmer. I am not a Fulmer hater but you get on here and wish he was back and his record was worse than the coach we now have during those latter years.
It had been 3 years since UT signed a top 10 recruiting class before Fulmer was fired.
Kiffin’s one and done class has not one of the 4 & 5 star recruits still on the team. Those are the players we look to for leadership. They would be the seniors and juniors on this team and they are no longer around.
There is no senior leadership left on this team with few expectations. The team was short 19 scholarship players when CDD was hired. Not because of anything Dooley did but because of the previous 2 coaches and an AD that should have been fired for hiring Kiffin.
This team may have some good talent now but it does not have the experience necessary to compete against teams that have greater depth at almost every position.
No senior leadership with experience in the defensive backfield following Jackson’s dismissal. If you do not think having most of your defensive players playing new positions with no experience leadership on the field will affect their abilities then you know nothing of the sport.
Dooley deserves the opportunity to rebuild this program. A 20 – 12 loss is not a win but it beats the heck out of the 41 – 14 loss last year.
It took 11 years and 2 different coaches to mess this once competitive team into the mess it was when Dooley was hired. It will take longer than 1 ½ season to straighten it out.
So before you let your emotions over-ride common sense about how bad you believe this coaching staff is take a good look at all the facts. You remember the National Championship and the middle 90’s like that was the last thing coach Fulmer did. It was not.
Keeping it Real
GoVols!!!

I agree with all this. I knew and worked with CPF for a year but it obviously was time for him to go.
What gets me about this whole situation was a true freshman wide receiver, a true freshman back, and a true soph. QB ruined us against GA. Our true soph. QB and WR plus a senior RB were barely keeping pace with GA before either Bray or Poole were hurt.
This just tells me that our coaching is suspect somewhere in the system.
Oh yeah first time poster Btw

hcjournals#206623 writes:

We have a long way to go. Just watched some of the replay on espn streaming. Our 4 sophomores and a junior sounds great in terms of potential. In reality, they are just not playing well. I don't know if they aren't good enough or aren't being pushed, but they are not getting it done. Period. And our secondary is playing horribly.
The only players doing well are several linebackers, several receivers, and now our injured quarterback. If we have such a talented freshman class, put some of them in. Any linemen in the group? Worst case is they motivate the "four sophomores and a junior" to stop patting themselves on the back because they say a pre meal prayer together and go bowling as a group. It's great to be close as a group. As long as everybody in the group knows how to knock people on their tails. They need to learn to learn what pancake means. It doesn't mean extra syrup for the table...

69grad writes:

Walt,
Did you even read the article?
Mike '69

ClemCash writes:

Loser talk from Dooley... The beginning stages of getting canned. His 3rd year will be a 6-loss season, and so will his 4th year, if given one.

He has made himself a familiar name and will do very well in the broadcast booth when he finally gets the boot.

MartyDurham writes:

I have 2 rules.
1: I never boo a college kid.

2: I root for the vols no matter what.

jjsteel writes:

in response to DennisVols:

So before all those who choose to get on here and rant about how bad this team is and want to run CDD out of town.
Let’s take a look at the facts that got this team to this point.
From 1999 until 2008: Coach Fulmer
UT was 13 – 20 against Bama, LSU, Auburn, UF and GA (this does not include losses to the likes of Vandy, Wyoming)
UT was 3 -5 in bowl games and 2 years did not even qualify for a bowl.
2005 with 19 starters returning and a preseason prediction to win the conference and a shot at a national title UT finished 5 -7 with 19 players that were either arrested, thrown off the team or involved in some sort of incident needing discipline.
That was coach Fulmer. I am not a Fulmer hater but you get on here and wish he was back and his record was worse than the coach we now have during those latter years.
It had been 3 years since UT signed a top 10 recruiting class before Fulmer was fired.
Kiffin’s one and done class has not one of the 4 & 5 star recruits still on the team. Those are the players we look to for leadership. They would be the seniors and juniors on this team and they are no longer around.
There is no senior leadership left on this team with few expectations. The team was short 19 scholarship players when CDD was hired. Not because of anything Dooley did but because of the previous 2 coaches and an AD that should have been fired for hiring Kiffin.
This team may have some good talent now but it does not have the experience necessary to compete against teams that have greater depth at almost every position.
No senior leadership with experience in the defensive backfield following Jackson’s dismissal. If you do not think having most of your defensive players playing new positions with no experience leadership on the field will affect their abilities then you know nothing of the sport.
Dooley deserves the opportunity to rebuild this program. A 20 – 12 loss is not a win but it beats the heck out of the 41 – 14 loss last year.
It took 11 years and 2 different coaches to mess this once competitive team into the mess it was when Dooley was hired. It will take longer than 1 ½ season to straighten it out.
So before you let your emotions over-ride common sense about how bad you believe this coaching staff is take a good look at all the facts. You remember the National Championship and the middle 90’s like that was the last thing coach Fulmer did. It was not.
Keeping it Real
GoVols!!!

ditto

ClemCash writes:

in response to DennisVols:

So before all those who choose to get on here and rant about how bad this team is and want to run CDD out of town.
Let’s take a look at the facts that got this team to this point.
From 1999 until 2008: Coach Fulmer
UT was 13 – 20 against Bama, LSU, Auburn, UF and GA (this does not include losses to the likes of Vandy, Wyoming)
UT was 3 -5 in bowl games and 2 years did not even qualify for a bowl.
2005 with 19 starters returning and a preseason prediction to win the conference and a shot at a national title UT finished 5 -7 with 19 players that were either arrested, thrown off the team or involved in some sort of incident needing discipline.
That was coach Fulmer. I am not a Fulmer hater but you get on here and wish he was back and his record was worse than the coach we now have during those latter years.
It had been 3 years since UT signed a top 10 recruiting class before Fulmer was fired.
Kiffin’s one and done class has not one of the 4 & 5 star recruits still on the team. Those are the players we look to for leadership. They would be the seniors and juniors on this team and they are no longer around.
There is no senior leadership left on this team with few expectations. The team was short 19 scholarship players when CDD was hired. Not because of anything Dooley did but because of the previous 2 coaches and an AD that should have been fired for hiring Kiffin.
This team may have some good talent now but it does not have the experience necessary to compete against teams that have greater depth at almost every position.
No senior leadership with experience in the defensive backfield following Jackson’s dismissal. If you do not think having most of your defensive players playing new positions with no experience leadership on the field will affect their abilities then you know nothing of the sport.
Dooley deserves the opportunity to rebuild this program. A 20 – 12 loss is not a win but it beats the heck out of the 41 – 14 loss last year.
It took 11 years and 2 different coaches to mess this once competitive team into the mess it was when Dooley was hired. It will take longer than 1 ½ season to straighten it out.
So before you let your emotions over-ride common sense about how bad you believe this coaching staff is take a good look at all the facts. You remember the National Championship and the middle 90’s like that was the last thing coach Fulmer did. It was not.
Keeping it Real
GoVols!!!

So how many years of 6-6 do you have to withstand until UT finds a coach that doesn't need built-in excuses?

Florida had 80 years of mostly losing until Spurrier took over and proceeded to win 7 SEC titles and a national title. Do you think Spurrier ever whined and moaned one time about what he inherited?

If you don't like the Spurrier-Florida example, how about Chris Peterson at Boise St. He has built that program from absolutely nothing. How about Dabo Sweeney and Gene Chizik? Both were in exactly the same position as Dooley when they took over the reigns at very comparabe programs. Chizik, instead of being cutesy with the media and waxing poetic all the time, busted his butt recruiting, made some great hires, and is coaching his tail off.

Clemson was a dumpster fire when Dabo took over. Clemson is now one of the best looking teams in America.

It's all about the coach. STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR DOOLEY!

Huttdawg100 writes:

I like Coach Dooley. I think the VFL program is great. We've had no discipline issues. But we looked poorly coached Saturday against UGA, and Richt's team looked more determined. It's one game.

However, he'll have to make some changes. Hiestand and Terry Joseph's groups have not shown a ton of improvement despite having extra recuits and personnel to work with. Wilcox got an undeserved raise last year, but he can't dial up a blitz to get QB pressure.

And Dooley has to hire a Running Back Coach. There's no way we'll get a top notch running back without a Running Back coach. Staff changes will be necessary at seasons end.

Go_Big_O writes:

Abysmal is a good word to describe the running game.

Vol_Stuck_in_GA writes:

in response to DennisVols:

So before all those who choose to get on here and rant about how bad this team is and want to run CDD out of town.
Let’s take a look at the facts that got this team to this point.
From 1999 until 2008: Coach Fulmer
UT was 13 – 20 against Bama, LSU, Auburn, UF and GA (this does not include losses to the likes of Vandy, Wyoming)
UT was 3 -5 in bowl games and 2 years did not even qualify for a bowl.
2005 with 19 starters returning and a preseason prediction to win the conference and a shot at a national title UT finished 5 -7 with 19 players that were either arrested, thrown off the team or involved in some sort of incident needing discipline.
That was coach Fulmer. I am not a Fulmer hater but you get on here and wish he was back and his record was worse than the coach we now have during those latter years.
It had been 3 years since UT signed a top 10 recruiting class before Fulmer was fired.
Kiffin’s one and done class has not one of the 4 & 5 star recruits still on the team. Those are the players we look to for leadership. They would be the seniors and juniors on this team and they are no longer around.
There is no senior leadership left on this team with few expectations. The team was short 19 scholarship players when CDD was hired. Not because of anything Dooley did but because of the previous 2 coaches and an AD that should have been fired for hiring Kiffin.
This team may have some good talent now but it does not have the experience necessary to compete against teams that have greater depth at almost every position.
No senior leadership with experience in the defensive backfield following Jackson’s dismissal. If you do not think having most of your defensive players playing new positions with no experience leadership on the field will affect their abilities then you know nothing of the sport.
Dooley deserves the opportunity to rebuild this program. A 20 – 12 loss is not a win but it beats the heck out of the 41 – 14 loss last year.
It took 11 years and 2 different coaches to mess this once competitive team into the mess it was when Dooley was hired. It will take longer than 1 ½ season to straighten it out.
So before you let your emotions over-ride common sense about how bad you believe this coaching staff is take a good look at all the facts. You remember the National Championship and the middle 90’s like that was the last thing coach Fulmer did. It was not.
Keeping it Real
GoVols!!!

This just deserves to be quoted/posted again. I believe in Coach Dooley. I believe in Tennessee.

bigtimevol writes:

OK, situation may be entirely different, but I'm gonna stay positive...though we've definitely got an up hill battle. As a FAN, what other choice do we have? You know our team is "busting their butts" (bad Fulmer response), to compete and get better. IF we can pull 6-7 wins off this season, and build to a good year next year, we'll be OK. I'm going "back in the day" here, but back in '85 when Tony Robinson went down, we thought we were lost for the season, and all that happened was a senior leader, and arguably, under talented qb named Dickey game-managed us to an SEC Championship.

ClassicVol (Inactive) writes:

Thanks OP. I think Dooley should get at least 4 years to turn this program back into a winner.

Some of these impaitent posters calling for his head weren't around in the lean years after Battle. Majors rebuilt this program over time and i think Dooley is the man we need right now.

jobrando#216494 writes:

in response to DennisVols:

So before all those who choose to get on here and rant about how bad this team is and want to run CDD out of town.
Let’s take a look at the facts that got this team to this point.
From 1999 until 2008: Coach Fulmer
UT was 13 – 20 against Bama, LSU, Auburn, UF and GA (this does not include losses to the likes of Vandy, Wyoming)
UT was 3 -5 in bowl games and 2 years did not even qualify for a bowl.
2005 with 19 starters returning and a preseason prediction to win the conference and a shot at a national title UT finished 5 -7 with 19 players that were either arrested, thrown off the team or involved in some sort of incident needing discipline.
That was coach Fulmer. I am not a Fulmer hater but you get on here and wish he was back and his record was worse than the coach we now have during those latter years.
It had been 3 years since UT signed a top 10 recruiting class before Fulmer was fired.
Kiffin’s one and done class has not one of the 4 & 5 star recruits still on the team. Those are the players we look to for leadership. They would be the seniors and juniors on this team and they are no longer around.
There is no senior leadership left on this team with few expectations. The team was short 19 scholarship players when CDD was hired. Not because of anything Dooley did but because of the previous 2 coaches and an AD that should have been fired for hiring Kiffin.
This team may have some good talent now but it does not have the experience necessary to compete against teams that have greater depth at almost every position.
No senior leadership with experience in the defensive backfield following Jackson’s dismissal. If you do not think having most of your defensive players playing new positions with no experience leadership on the field will affect their abilities then you know nothing of the sport.
Dooley deserves the opportunity to rebuild this program. A 20 – 12 loss is not a win but it beats the heck out of the 41 – 14 loss last year.
It took 11 years and 2 different coaches to mess this once competitive team into the mess it was when Dooley was hired. It will take longer than 1 ½ season to straighten it out.
So before you let your emotions over-ride common sense about how bad you believe this coaching staff is take a good look at all the facts. You remember the National Championship and the middle 90’s like that was the last thing coach Fulmer did. It was not.
Keeping it Real
GoVols!!!

All you folks that try to control others from ranting and raving need to also get a grip. Just let it take it's course. It's the history of sports in general for fans to complain and want change. Fans have always been happy or complaining. It's called venting. You cant control it.

ktemaque1 writes:

in response to MartyDurham:

I have 2 rules.
1: I never boo a college kid.

2: I root for the vols no matter what.

Well said, Marty! I am exactly the same. I just wish some of these "fans" would understand that you stay with your team and you don't boo kids, ours or theirs.

CCLC writes:

"You may call me crazy, and maybe I am. But walking out of the stadium last night, I actually credited the band as one of the many reasons we lost that game. Heading into the locker room at halftime, we had just put together a pretty good drive to get into FG range and tie the game. On top of that, we would be getting the ball to start the 2nd half. The energy in the stadium was electric, hopeful, excited. Then the embarassing band took the field with a weird, obnoxious, Wizard of Oz halftime show. Complete with people in costume and stupid jokes attempting to make fun of Bama, Kentucky, South Carolina, Georgia, and even a confusing joke attempt at Texas A&M (which made no sense). The Tennessee fans in my section (myself included) could only shake their heads in humiliation. Some even hid their faces in their hands. Georgia fans were laughing at us. It completely sucked all of the air and excitement out of the crowd. It took a full 7 or 8 minutes into the 3rd quarter to recover from it. By that point, we were down 20-6.

Don't get me wrong, there are many reasons that we lost that game last night. But the band didn't help." from InsideTennessee.com

RemembertheAlamo writes:

in response to ktemaque1:

Well said, Marty! I am exactly the same. I just wish some of these "fans" would understand that you stay with your team and you don't boo kids, ours or theirs.

I would say the boos are not directed at the kids, but the coaches. The stupid plays they call. Like 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1 and we call a run with the halfback that we have a total of minus yards all night and we have the top passer in the SEC. Stupid, Stupid, Stupid.

tennvolsman19651965 writes:

in response to RemembertheAlamo:

I agree, but I cannot figure why out of a school of over 30 thousands students we cannot have an open try out for a Center, there should be one person at the school that can center the ball.
We are using an All American Guard to center the ball. If we had a center then we could move Stone back to Guard....I can get off the soap box now.

Or kicker! How do you miss extra points? It has gotten to the point of rediculous

spencer1989#206886 writes:

in response to DennisVols:

So before all those who choose to get on here and rant about how bad this team is and want to run CDD out of town.
Let’s take a look at the facts that got this team to this point.
From 1999 until 2008: Coach Fulmer
UT was 13 – 20 against Bama, LSU, Auburn, UF and GA (this does not include losses to the likes of Vandy, Wyoming)
UT was 3 -5 in bowl games and 2 years did not even qualify for a bowl.
2005 with 19 starters returning and a preseason prediction to win the conference and a shot at a national title UT finished 5 -7 with 19 players that were either arrested, thrown off the team or involved in some sort of incident needing discipline.
That was coach Fulmer. I am not a Fulmer hater but you get on here and wish he was back and his record was worse than the coach we now have during those latter years.
It had been 3 years since UT signed a top 10 recruiting class before Fulmer was fired.
Kiffin’s one and done class has not one of the 4 & 5 star recruits still on the team. Those are the players we look to for leadership. They would be the seniors and juniors on this team and they are no longer around.
There is no senior leadership left on this team with few expectations. The team was short 19 scholarship players when CDD was hired. Not because of anything Dooley did but because of the previous 2 coaches and an AD that should have been fired for hiring Kiffin.
This team may have some good talent now but it does not have the experience necessary to compete against teams that have greater depth at almost every position.
No senior leadership with experience in the defensive backfield following Jackson’s dismissal. If you do not think having most of your defensive players playing new positions with no experience leadership on the field will affect their abilities then you know nothing of the sport.
Dooley deserves the opportunity to rebuild this program. A 20 – 12 loss is not a win but it beats the heck out of the 41 – 14 loss last year.
It took 11 years and 2 different coaches to mess this once competitive team into the mess it was when Dooley was hired. It will take longer than 1 ½ season to straighten it out.
So before you let your emotions over-ride common sense about how bad you believe this coaching staff is take a good look at all the facts. You remember the National Championship and the middle 90’s like that was the last thing coach Fulmer did. It was not.
Keeping it Real
GoVols!!!

Well stated!!! I couldn't agree more.

arkyvol writes:

harry truman liked to quote a line from a tombstone in a cowtown boot hill. it went, 'he done his damndest.'

no doubt that could be the epitaph for dooley's tenure in knoxville.

wrong man. wrong time. wrong job.

jwill33 writes:

in response to tngilmer:

I just hope you are right.

Post of the YEAR! Nobody wants to look at why or how we are where we are! Dooley will rebuild we need to be healthy and probably another two years of really good recruiting. Hopefully we are recruiting some offensive linemen does anyone have any info on that?

dyerbey#281598 writes:

I'm not going to trash Fulmer, Kiffin or Dooley, but I will ask one question, when was the last time the Tennessee Volunteers had an effective Run game? It doesn't matter who coaches this team, until the Vols find a running game they will never beat a good team. I don't understand how we crank out NFL Offensive Lineman year after year but none of them can block an 8th grader when they play in Knoxville. I challenge the Offensive Line to start knocking opponents on their butts, until then get used to losing.

Madkels writes:

Some good post on here. I'm not one to call for a wholesale change in the staff yet. I agree that the program was in shambles when Dooley took over and he needs more than 1.5 seasons to right the ship. But what I do have problems with is the inability to run block and have some running game. I know these kids are young, but I don't see a "killer, I'm gonna put you on your butt" attitude by this line. You would think that every once in a while, they could punch a hole, but they lose every time at the line. Is this inexperience or coaching? Just asking.

RemembertheAlamo writes:

in response to ClassicVol:

Thanks OP. I think Dooley should get at least 4 years to turn this program back into a winner.

Some of these impaitent posters calling for his head weren't around in the lean years after Battle. Majors rebuilt this program over time and i think Dooley is the man we need right now.

You are so right, but there was one thing Majors had in those lean years and that was Mr. Excitment. 1977 we went 4-7 with Jimmy Streater. He had an 80 yard run against California. Wow the games were exciting. I still think No. 6 should be retired.

bigOutfan writes:

in response to DennisVols:

So before all those who choose to get on here and rant about how bad this team is and want to run CDD out of town.
Let’s take a look at the facts that got this team to this point.
From 1999 until 2008: Coach Fulmer
UT was 13 – 20 against Bama, LSU, Auburn, UF and GA (this does not include losses to the likes of Vandy, Wyoming)
UT was 3 -5 in bowl games and 2 years did not even qualify for a bowl.
2005 with 19 starters returning and a preseason prediction to win the conference and a shot at a national title UT finished 5 -7 with 19 players that were either arrested, thrown off the team or involved in some sort of incident needing discipline.
That was coach Fulmer. I am not a Fulmer hater but you get on here and wish he was back and his record was worse than the coach we now have during those latter years.
It had been 3 years since UT signed a top 10 recruiting class before Fulmer was fired.
Kiffin’s one and done class has not one of the 4 & 5 star recruits still on the team. Those are the players we look to for leadership. They would be the seniors and juniors on this team and they are no longer around.
There is no senior leadership left on this team with few expectations. The team was short 19 scholarship players when CDD was hired. Not because of anything Dooley did but because of the previous 2 coaches and an AD that should have been fired for hiring Kiffin.
This team may have some good talent now but it does not have the experience necessary to compete against teams that have greater depth at almost every position.
No senior leadership with experience in the defensive backfield following Jackson’s dismissal. If you do not think having most of your defensive players playing new positions with no experience leadership on the field will affect their abilities then you know nothing of the sport.
Dooley deserves the opportunity to rebuild this program. A 20 – 12 loss is not a win but it beats the heck out of the 41 – 14 loss last year.
It took 11 years and 2 different coaches to mess this once competitive team into the mess it was when Dooley was hired. It will take longer than 1 ½ season to straighten it out.
So before you let your emotions over-ride common sense about how bad you believe this coaching staff is take a good look at all the facts. You remember the National Championship and the middle 90’s like that was the last thing coach Fulmer did. It was not.
Keeping it Real
GoVols!!!

Very Good!
It may take 3 or 4 years to get this program back to where it once was. It's going to take some really great recuiting classes and alot of patience, something TN fans don't have much of.
As for the LSU game TN can hold their own for a half or so but then lack of depth will show up. Never the less I'll be there in XX3 cheering them on. As Johnny use to say, "ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK!!!" Who knows what can happen, that's why they play the game.

dyerbey#281598 writes:

For all the Dooley bashers just remember this, look no further than your President to see that change isn't always a good thing. Hope and Dooley in 2012 not Hope and Change.

jdcdjc writes:

in response to WaltGoVols:

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You pointed out everything except the mess he found when he got here, when you start pointing out the facts include all of them.
Go Vols

jdcdjc writes:

in response to MerlOT_GoVols:

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You, my friend, cannot see past your nose.

bigdawg88 writes:

in response to RustyVol:

I agree with all this. I knew and worked with CPF for a year but it obviously was time for him to go.
What gets me about this whole situation was a true freshman wide receiver, a true freshman back, and a true soph. QB ruined us against GA. Our true soph. QB and WR plus a senior RB were barely keeping pace with GA before either Bray or Poole were hurt.
This just tells me that our coaching is suspect somewhere in the system.
Oh yeah first time poster Btw

Not to make excuses, but you are starting a true freshman at cb whereas we had several veterans in the secondary. UGA secondary overall is probably one of the best in the country. Plus, look at all the recruits you lost from the Kiffin debacle, and the recruits you probably lost from the aftermath. Dooley didn't have a lot of time to sign people after Kiffin abandoned you guys. After stuff like Kiffin happens, it takes a year or two to get the top flight recruits to trust enough to want to come to a school. They have to know things will be stable. Give Dooley a couple of more years to stabilize things. Looks like you're doing pretty good recruiting right now, and things will get better eventually. If you need an example, look at your brethren in Mississippi. Changing coaches all the time, and what has that got them?

ProfessionalHandicapper writes:

Hunter,Bray nor lathers has anything to do with rushing for negative 29 yards vs two average SEC teams. Fulmer lost his starting QB and then Todd Helton and had to play two true freshmen at QB the entire year. People still expected Fulmer to win. Barabara and Derrick are an excuse a minute. North Carolina lost about 30 players last year and still beat UT. The run game has gone backwards. The secondary is horrible and going downhill. The OL is no better with an extra year of experience. Until UT gets a coach that will play SEC smash mouth football again, this WAC attack will always have offensive injuries. Maybe its time for someone to hire John Chavis as a head coach and bring in a Mike Leach as OC. Kinda what Florida did with Mushamp and Weiss. Wilcox defenses have been bad. Georgia had WR's running wide open deep all day, and they will not hit. Soft WAC team.

wallingdad writes:

in response to WaltGoVols:

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i agree with your assessment of the stats. however bill battle was on a downward slide for sure. if you allowed him to continue on the win/loss path that he was on he would have been into negative numbers very soon. replacing him was the right thing to do. look back at the numbers. i think the straw that really broke the back was the loss to north texas state.

VOLinATL writes:

in response to MartyDurham:

I have 2 rules.
1: I never boo a college kid.

2: I root for the vols no matter what.

Absolutely!!!

BigBadVol writes:

in response to ClemCash:

So how many years of 6-6 do you have to withstand until UT finds a coach that doesn't need built-in excuses?

Florida had 80 years of mostly losing until Spurrier took over and proceeded to win 7 SEC titles and a national title. Do you think Spurrier ever whined and moaned one time about what he inherited?

If you don't like the Spurrier-Florida example, how about Chris Peterson at Boise St. He has built that program from absolutely nothing. How about Dabo Sweeney and Gene Chizik? Both were in exactly the same position as Dooley when they took over the reigns at very comparabe programs. Chizik, instead of being cutesy with the media and waxing poetic all the time, busted his butt recruiting, made some great hires, and is coaching his tail off.

Clemson was a dumpster fire when Dabo took over. Clemson is now one of the best looking teams in America.

It's all about the coach. STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR DOOLEY!

Hey troll, please annoy another board. Your posts are immature at best.

jdcdjc writes:

in response to ClassicVol:

Thanks OP. I think Dooley should get at least 4 years to turn this program back into a winner.

Some of these impaitent posters calling for his head weren't around in the lean years after Battle. Majors rebuilt this program over time and i think Dooley is the man we need right now.

Great post, I agree 100%!!!

RatherBeDrivingaTitleist writes:

in response to WaltGoVols:

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Good gosh Walt, Battle took over when Dickey went to Florida and was left with talent everywhere.

AlpharettaVol writes:

Dennis Vols,
Here's another fact: We had Taj Boyd (Clemson QB who may be Player of the Year in the ACC) coming to Tennessee until Kiffin told him he wasn't good enough to play on his team. We could really use him and some of the others Kiffin ran off right now.

keviningeorgia writes:

in response to ClemCash:

Loser talk from Dooley... The beginning stages of getting canned. His 3rd year will be a 6-loss season, and so will his 4th year, if given one.

He has made himself a familiar name and will do very well in the broadcast booth when he finally gets the boot.

You obviously didn't read the article. What some of you guys refer to as "excuses" and "loser talk" is actually a coach trying to just answer the questions honestly.

No wonder most of them sit there and use "coach speak" like a robot. They can't win trying to just give an honest answer. What part of "nobody is going to feel sorry for Tennessee or me" is loser talk? That's the truth! And he's saying we're not going to sit around whinning and making excuses, we're rolling up the sleeves and pressing on.

You see it as loser talk because you are invested in the failure of this staff, thus this team...

keviningeorgia writes:

in response to WaltGoVols:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

Hey Walt,

THANK YOU!!!!!! For your service to our country. I appreciate what you did for my family and I...

crrvol writes:

in response to ClemCash:

So how many years of 6-6 do you have to withstand until UT finds a coach that doesn't need built-in excuses?

Florida had 80 years of mostly losing until Spurrier took over and proceeded to win 7 SEC titles and a national title. Do you think Spurrier ever whined and moaned one time about what he inherited?

If you don't like the Spurrier-Florida example, how about Chris Peterson at Boise St. He has built that program from absolutely nothing. How about Dabo Sweeney and Gene Chizik? Both were in exactly the same position as Dooley when they took over the reigns at very comparabe programs. Chizik, instead of being cutesy with the media and waxing poetic all the time, busted his butt recruiting, made some great hires, and is coaching his tail off.

Clemson was a dumpster fire when Dabo took over. Clemson is now one of the best looking teams in America.

It's all about the coach. STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR DOOLEY!

I think it has a lot to do with defensive philosophy. Which hurts your Boise State example. Bend but dont break may work against Nevada, but the SEC needs a bend em back and break there nose defense, maybe our Boise D coordinator needs a new philosophy. But im not a coach nor an expert, just a fan thatll root for the Vols no matter what!

crrvol writes:

in response to crrvol:

I think it has a lot to do with defensive philosophy. Which hurts your Boise State example. Bend but dont break may work against Nevada, but the SEC needs a bend em back and break there nose defense, maybe our Boise D coordinator needs a new philosophy. But im not a coach nor an expert, just a fan thatll root for the Vols no matter what!

And Chizik had Cam Newton, who looks a lot like he was paid to play there, look at Auburn now.

FearTheVols1252 writes:

in response to MerlOT_GoVols:

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No disrespect to CPF, but he was not a winner... his coordinators were. Time to let him go.

Yes, year 3 post Fulmer, and yet Fulmer is still unemployed (not by choice). What a winner!

keviningeorgia writes:

in response to BigBadVol:

Hey troll, please annoy another board. Your posts are immature at best.

Don't even know what you are talking about. Just throwing garbage at the wall hoping something will stick.

If you truely believe what you posted here, you are ignorant on the subject which you are trying to address...

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