Da'Rick Rogers learning how to handle attention

Vols have to believe they can win

Da'Rick Rogers knew extra defenders were coming his way.

Without help from Justin Hunter on the other side of the formation, it was no secret to Tennessee's other young star receiver that defenses would be gearing up to stop him.

But preparing for double coverage and beating it both physically and mentally during a game aren't the same thing, and Rogers seems to still be coming to terms with what all that added attention on him might mean as the Vols get set to host No. 1 LSU on Saturday (TV: WVLT. 3:30 p.m.).

"Oh yeah, I think it's human nature," wide receivers coach Charlie Baggett said Wednesday. "Shoot, Randy Moss used to do it. I have never had receivers that didn't get frustrated, but it's how you channel that frustration. That's what I was trying to relay to him on Saturday. You have to stay calm.

"You have to understand that you are going to have some good plays and some bad plays. Just get back in there and keep doing it. It will eventually work."

The catches and yardage didn't come in waves for Rogers as it had in earlier games, and the sophomore wasn't able to make as big of an impact individually as perhaps he anticipated in a meaningful game last week against Georgia.

But while his five catches for 71 yards were a bit lower than his season averages, a part of his role moving forward won't be measured by his personal numbers as he tries to occupy defenders to open up options elsewhere — as he did for Mychal Rivera over the middle and Marlin Lane out of the backfield against the Bulldogs.

"That's something I've talked to Da'Rick about," Vols coach Derek Dooley said. "A lot of receivers, really good receivers, can go three quarters and not touch the ball — then they catch four big ones in the fourth and win the game and everybody feels good.

"The other coaches get paid pretty good, and they've got a lot of good players on the other side. They're going to make some plays and do some good things, and you've just got to keep playing. I think that's a very common thing for youth because we have all these high expectations, and when things aren't flowing like milk and honey, we can't believe it."

The top-ranked Tigers (6-0, 3-0 SEC) and their lockdown defense have a tendency to break up the flow of an offense, and the loss of Hunter coupled with quarterback Tyler Bray's broken thumb have already provided some adversity for a UT (3-2, 0-2) attack that was operating at a high level in the passing game early in the season.

But the Vols can't do anything about that now. Hunter is gone for the season, Bray will be out for at least a month and it's up to the rest of the guys to pick up the slack — no matter what kind of schemes they're facing.

"We feel good about it, and has practiced well," Baggett said. "That's something he has to learn. He has to learn to be patient and to understand that sometimes he's going to get doubled and is not going to be open, but someone else will be.

"Don't run undisciplined routes because you are frustrated."

Two for one: The same two options were taking snaps last season against the Vols, and both contributed to what was nearly a monumental upset.

Now a year later, the quarterbacks that combined for three interceptions and needed some late help from the UT defense to survive are sharing time again, and Jarrett Lee and Jordan Jefferson are making life hard on opponents.

Lee has shouldered most of the load while Jefferson sat out four games after an arrest before the season started, and he's responded with some of the finest football of his career. But he's got help again now, and the reinstatement of the mobile Jefferson adds another dynamic to the LSU offense.

"I think they're doing exactly what they want them to do," UT defensive coordinator Justin Wilcox said. "When people try to stack it up on the run game, they'll throw the ball down the field. Obviously Jordan Jefferson is back and he creates a different set of problems in terms of the agility and the things he can do in the zone-read game.

"Both the guys are proven winners and can do exactly what they need them to do."

Bumps And Bruises: Austin Johnson was again in a red, non-contact jersey when the Vols practiced indoors on Thursday morning. Dooley indicated on Wednesday it was simply a precautionary measure for the senior linebacker.

Running back Tauren Poole was a participant for the second day in a row, and the senior looks like he'll be able to go against the Tigers.

Austin Ward covers Tennessee football. He may be reached at 865-342-6274. Follow him at http://twitter.com/Vols_Beat and http://blogs.knoxnews.com/ward.

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VOLliven2it writes:

I want to see DaRick be DaMan on Sat. It will be tough because of the athleticism of LSU's D. But we hope our Vols do well and cheer them on no matter what. GO VOLS!

tennvolsman19651965 writes:

in response to smoky_moUnTain_sasqUaTch:

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Awesome post! LMAO!

tennvolsman19651965 writes:

in response to VOLliven2it:

I want to see DaRick be DaMan on Sat. It will be tough because of the athleticism of LSU's D. But we hope our Vols do well and cheer them on no matter what. GO VOLS!

Maybe they will underestimate DaRick and think they can cover him one on one.

Volunatic writes:

in response to smoky_moUnTain_sasqUaTch:

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I agree. One approach that hasn't been tried against Mathieu is having big receivers/TEs/RBs go right at him and hit him hard.
I know he's tough, but a 175 lb CB will at least feel it if they do that, and might be slightly more timid after a few big hits.

CantStandCantStandSaban writes:

Hopefully Arnett or V. Dallas can get into the action, too.

AKSN1061VOL writes:

Any news on Lathers? This is the 6th week of the season, right?

TarheelVol writes:

in response to MerlOT_GoVols:

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Yeah, on paper this should be an epic beatdown.
But so was last year and LSU was very very lucky
to escape with a win. So was Bama 2 years ago
in Tuscaloosa, but we played them tough and sent
90,000 Bammers home to change their shorts. LSU
puts their pants on the same way everyone else
does. Just line up and hit the MF out of these
guys and we'll be in the game. We're about due
to win one of these kinds of games.

RUstilltalking writes:

It will be close at halftime but after that the same old 2nd half let down will begin. And its not because of depth, or the band, or we play 97 freshman, or there was dew on the ground, or the ref's called a holding play on 3rd and 17 and could've been the difference maker.........its because our staff will not or cannot make adjustments, period. The kids will play hard, but the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.

VolinCalif writes:

in response to MerlOT_GoVols:

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To each their own. I think we are a much improved team over last year, % wise much more so than LSU.But as all know the best don't always win, a little factor called luck/breaks/bounce of the ball has a little to do with winning. I also think that Matt is a much better QB than is being given credit. This team is out to right the ship look for a pretty good game.

RUstilltalking writes:

in response to VolinCalif:

To each their own. I think we are a much improved team over last year, % wise much more so than LSU.But as all know the best don't always win, a little factor called luck/breaks/bounce of the ball has a little to do with winning. I also think that Matt is a much better QB than is being given credit. This team is out to right the ship look for a pretty good game.

A pretty good game? Are you on crack? Have you not seen the two Mid-Tier SEC Teams beat us? What do you think the #1 team will do. Matt Simms doesn't deserve any credit because he hasn't earned it. And for that much Bray hasn't either. To get credit you have to earn it. They have not put up any wins against mid to upper level competition to DESERVE credit.

Volunatic writes:

in response to MerlOT_GoVols:

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Bobby Denton would pronounce "athleticism" with six syllables.

Volunatic writes:

in response to MerlOT_GoVols:

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You are partly correct. Phil didn't take Tennessee completely to this situation, but he did not do well at keeping Tennessee at the top, as some coaches have been able to do. 2001-2002 presented a glorious opportunity to take control of the SEC East, and opportunity that was unfortunately squandered. The decline continued through his firing in 2008. Having a brash single-year coach in 2009 also contributed a lot to the current status.
Blaming fans is ridiculous, though. Hamilton didn't care about the fans' opinions.

Theo writes:

in response to MerlOT_GoVols:

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CSS - I thought that was you! How are things looking for the bowling team this year?
You know just a hint but I wonder if you could just have the phrase - Fulmer good, Dooley bad, UT sucks on your clipboard and just copy it directly onto all of your posts? You wouldn't have to try and think up new ways to phrase it. Just a thought.
Go Vols!
On our way up!

volfan8#549730 writes:

in response to MerlOT_GoVols:

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boy someone licked the red off your candy.. Sheesh... BTW chucklehead. fans DID NOt get us in this shape..

crimsonviper writes:

in response to MerlOT_GoVols:

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You whining has become a sickness..I respect you too much to not help...Please call these people asap. http://media.photobucket.com/image/wh...

BigBadVol writes:

I think CSS go scared off after his identity was revealed and he ran his mouth too much. A typical redneck from Nashville. I grew up there I know the type.

Volunatic writes:

in response to Theo:

CSS - I thought that was you! How are things looking for the bowling team this year?
You know just a hint but I wonder if you could just have the phrase - Fulmer good, Dooley bad, UT sucks on your clipboard and just copy it directly onto all of your posts? You wouldn't have to try and think up new ways to phrase it. Just a thought.
Go Vols!
On our way up!

I think the current incarnation of the CSS troll persona is "ProfessionalHandicapper". CSS claimed to have expertise in sports lines and betting "systems".

TheRealDragonSlayer writes:

in response to MerlOT_GoVols:

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Talk is cheap, especially for people like you who hide behind a computer screen and think they are tough. You said we will be lucky if we get a field goal...put your money where your mouth is...bet $100 that Tennessee will be held scoreless by LSU. No? Not that sure any more? Thats what I thought.

Punks like you talk a lot, and get off when you see your words on the screen. But the more you talk, the less your words make sense...and if they did make sense, you wouldnt have a hard time standing behind your words.

I say Tennessee plays LSU tough, that the game gets into the 4th quarter with less than a TD separating both teams, and it will go down to the wire...I am willing to bet on this. Obviously, I believe my words a lot more than you believe in your own drivel.

orangecountyvols writes:

Vols,

This Merlot drinker really needs to do something about his diarrhea of the mouth.

When you have a message board, you are prone to get all types. And, with this troll we are unfortunately subjected to a troll of the worst sort. A whining, bragging, crying for attention troll..............one who puts the Vols in an extremely bad light, inasmuch as he injects the "us and we" in his rants, then continually runs down the program.

No doubt an accurate name...........Merlot, typical of one who can't stay away from the bottle and............trolling.

RUstilltalking writes:

LSU- 38 VOLS- 6

VolinCalif writes:

in response to MerlOT_GoVols:

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Mer
By rational thinking LSU should win by double digit scores.But these teams are made up of kids. This team is out to prove that there are other players other than the hot-shots and they like and respect Matt. I think they will show-up for the game.Even if they lose they'll show-up.
From another post asking if I were on Crack. No not yet but who knows after this Sat. Ga and Fl are not second class teams. they were both in the top 25 this year and in truth we didn't play them badly and could have won both games. I remember a Rice team in the 60's that played every game against a top 25 team, of course they lost but they stayed within 7 points of those teams. Don't care what others think I think Rice was a top 25 team that year.

TheRealDragonSlayer writes:

in response to MerlOT_GoVols:

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I just dont see how a man's bet will work for a whiny girl like you.

You deciding not to bet for or against the Vols means nothing...the implication of your response is that you dont have enough faith in your own drivel. You like to talk, but when confronted to put up or shut up, you dont even shut up and bring in excuses for why you dont have to put up.

It is very simple. If you really think the score will be 45-0...heck, I will make it easier for you...dont worry about LSU's score, just tell me that you bet $100 that Tennessee will not score in this game. I am even giving your excuses a way out...you are not really betting for or against Tennessee's result, you are just saying that Tennessee wont score.

Dont talk about being a man. Be a man. Bet me a $100 that Tennessee wont score, and I will take you on.

Tennessee will score, and score multiple times. The difference is, I am willing to put my money where my mouth is.

TheRealDragonSlayer writes:

in response to MerlOT_GoVols:

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Bet some money or shut up, little girl.

VolGrad writes:

in response to MerlOT_GoVols:

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Wow, man you're really bringing me down. Lighten up, grandpa, and get down to the funk of the O&W. At least, back it up to the crib if you wanna lay a gasser. Show your neighbors some love and give some space, or close the shades.

Get Back Up and Go Vols!!!

GerryOP writes:

3-2 on the way to 11-2 baby... 11-2!

RetainDerekDooleyPlease writes:

in response to Navalorange:

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I couldn't agree more. Anyone that knows anything about football knows, just like the myriad of posters here, that Tennessee is no longer a traditional power and lacks the where with all to turn it around in two years.

What with the mess Coach Dooley inherited and an inexperienced line with only 65+ starts between them, Tennessee fans should be glad that the Vols have only put up negative rushing numbers against powerhouse defenses like Georgia and Florida. The way Dooley's getting it done, I wouldn't be a bit suprised if UT does just as well against LSU.

Dooley's getting it done "the right way." Who cares if he's 5-7 this year? Everyone, that's not blind, can see he's making progress.

Great post. Support Derek Dooley.

sameolvolalum writes:

I don't know who disappoints me most.....the KNS for allowing Jeff Flowers to keep posting or you fans who keep taking his troll bait and honoring him by responding. Losers beget losers, so don't feed the trolls.

snuffysmiff writes:

in response to sameolvolalum:

I don't know who disappoints me most.....the KNS for allowing Jeff Flowers to keep posting or you fans who keep taking his troll bait and honoring him by responding. Losers beget losers, so don't feed the trolls.

It's long past being a forum and has evolved into a peeing contest. Someone makes a snide post and someone tries rebuttal, and the cycle is never broken.

TNVOLS255181 writes:

Hey guys!! i'm new around here, but i have been reading all the comments from this website for months now..

lol decided to start commenting my self..

GerryOP writes:

in response to snuffysmiff:

It's long past being a forum and has evolved into a peeing contest. Someone makes a snide post and someone tries rebuttal, and the cycle is never broken.

Agree with your 1st sentence. This is no longer a Vol sports site, it is simply a playground trash dump.

ProwlinAndGrowlinSmokeyDog writes:

in response to Navalorange:

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Yeah, and he needs to drop the "we" out of his post because he definitely NOT a Vol fan.

On topic,I don't think the honey badger has seen a receiver with size and talent of Da'Rick..Be interesting to see how he handles him one-on-one..Maybe they will double team Da'Rick,like UGA did..Have no clue what Chavis will do as far as that goes.

Smokey says Da'Rick needs to challenge Mr.Mathieu(sp.)

ProwlinAndGrowlinSmokeyDog writes:

in response to TarheelVol:

Yeah, on paper this should be an epic beatdown.
But so was last year and LSU was very very lucky
to escape with a win. So was Bama 2 years ago
in Tuscaloosa, but we played them tough and sent
90,000 Bammers home to change their shorts. LSU
puts their pants on the same way everyone else
does. Just line up and hit the MF out of these
guys and we'll be in the game. We're about due
to win one of these kinds of games.

And games aren't played based on the stats and all that..They are played and decided on the field, and you never know what may happen..I am actually looking forward to watching this game because our backs are against the wall..Watched plenty of games when that was the case and the outcome was good..As the old saying goes,"that's why they play the game"..

Smokey says he will do his part..

orangecountyvols writes:

in response to ProwlinAndGrowlinSmokeyDog:

And games aren't played based on the stats and all that..They are played and decided on the field, and you never know what may happen..I am actually looking forward to watching this game because our backs are against the wall..Watched plenty of games when that was the case and the outcome was good..As the old saying goes,"that's why they play the game"..

Smokey says he will do his part..

Smokey,

Well said. You know, we understand where we are and won't jump off tall buildings if things don't work out.

It's a real pleasure to identify true fans like you, NavalOrange, Gerry, Volz4gzus etc. We all know it's a tough assignment..........losing very key players, plus all this occurring in another rebuilding season.

We know the Vols will go down fighting and true supporters such as you will either be in the stadium or pulling for them in front of the television..........( not at the keyboards as some others are wont to do. )

All this will be our reward when this young team returns, along with maturity, key recruits, and our patience may be tested at times, but it'll all be worth it.

Go Big Orange

DavidB writes:

I agree the site has gotten a little crazy lately. There are as many posers on the site as there is real Vol fans.

I honestly try not and reply to the posers but occassionaly I feel like I just have to say something to point out how stupid they are.

I would much rather them attack us straight on, be a man about it. A little trash talk is expected in football.

GerryOP writes:

in response to orangecountyvols:

Smokey,

Well said. You know, we understand where we are and won't jump off tall buildings if things don't work out.

It's a real pleasure to identify true fans like you, NavalOrange, Gerry, Volz4gzus etc. We all know it's a tough assignment..........losing very key players, plus all this occurring in another rebuilding season.

We know the Vols will go down fighting and true supporters such as you will either be in the stadium or pulling for them in front of the television..........( not at the keyboards as some others are wont to do. )

All this will be our reward when this young team returns, along with maturity, key recruits, and our patience may be tested at times, but it'll all be worth it.

Go Big Orange

Thanks OCV and Smoke Dog. This used to be a great Vols site. We could argue, debate, and discuss without this playground nonsense we see now. Now it's nothin' but trash and burn.

I hate to say this, but even the lil' GataTrollGuys make more sense then some of the so-called Vol fans on here now who simply want to trash our Vols, Coach Dooley, and everything Vol. Their next target will probably be Coach Zo. Even back in the day of us anti-Fulmerites, it wasn't like this.

Whatever ... let's keep-on-keepin'-on and keep cheering for our Vols. Let's try to keep this site fun ... and all Vol. After over 50 years being a Vol fan, I still support our Vols!

orangeB writes:

This will be closer than most people think. They only scored 19 against Miss. State and the West Va game was closer than the score shows. West Va was down 27-21 and LSU ran a kick off back and WV never recovered. Les Miles luck will run out sooner or later. Bring down the goalposts!

Watch this for inspiration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=982VDZ...

DavidB writes:

in response to GerryOP:

Thanks OCV and Smoke Dog. This used to be a great Vols site. We could argue, debate, and discuss without this playground nonsense we see now. Now it's nothin' but trash and burn.

I hate to say this, but even the lil' GataTrollGuys make more sense then some of the so-called Vol fans on here now who simply want to trash our Vols, Coach Dooley, and everything Vol. Their next target will probably be Coach Zo. Even back in the day of us anti-Fulmerites, it wasn't like this.

Whatever ... let's keep-on-keepin'-on and keep cheering for our Vols. Let's try to keep this site fun ... and all Vol. After over 50 years being a Vol fan, I still support our Vols!

Gerry, as a Vol fan I honestly have to believe that many of these people that are bashing the Vols are not really Vol fans. The Real Vol fan base understand where the Vols are actually at.

It is OK to disagree with what a coach is doing but constantly 2nd guessing his ability this early in the rebuilding phase is just dumb.

allvol8 writes:

in response to orangecountyvols:

Smokey,

Well said. You know, we understand where we are and won't jump off tall buildings if things don't work out.

It's a real pleasure to identify true fans like you, NavalOrange, Gerry, Volz4gzus etc. We all know it's a tough assignment..........losing very key players, plus all this occurring in another rebuilding season.

We know the Vols will go down fighting and true supporters such as you will either be in the stadium or pulling for them in front of the television..........( not at the keyboards as some others are wont to do. )

All this will be our reward when this young team returns, along with maturity, key recruits, and our patience may be tested at times, but it'll all be worth it.

Go Big Orange

:)..& Go Vols!

allvol8 writes:

in response to GerryOP:

Thanks OCV and Smoke Dog. This used to be a great Vols site. We could argue, debate, and discuss without this playground nonsense we see now. Now it's nothin' but trash and burn.

I hate to say this, but even the lil' GataTrollGuys make more sense then some of the so-called Vol fans on here now who simply want to trash our Vols, Coach Dooley, and everything Vol. Their next target will probably be Coach Zo. Even back in the day of us anti-Fulmerites, it wasn't like this.

Whatever ... let's keep-on-keepin'-on and keep cheering for our Vols. Let's try to keep this site fun ... and all Vol. After over 50 years being a Vol fan, I still support our Vols!

A+

orangeB writes:

If you're in Knoxville for the game, pep rally outside gate 21 tomorrow at 5:15.

http://www.utsports.com/sports/m-foot...

decades_vol (Inactive) writes:

Seems like the "Phil"lies are gradually coming out of the woodwork, like orange-colored cockroaches. Get over your hurt feelings and support the players and coaches you have. Keeping in context with the story, I hope that Rogers catches a couple of balls and takes them all the way to Calhouns.

GerryOP writes:

in response to DavidB:

Gerry, as a Vol fan I honestly have to believe that many of these people that are bashing the Vols are not really Vol fans. The Real Vol fan base understand where the Vols are actually at.

It is OK to disagree with what a coach is doing but constantly 2nd guessing his ability this early in the rebuilding phase is just dumb.

Yup, DavidB, honest disagreement is welcome. Honest debate is welcome. But the current trend of "How BAD can I be" accomplishes nothing. I often wonder who these dudes really are. Doesn't matter ... I'm just curious.

Most Vol fans know that every member of the footVol program is trying their damndest to bring home wins and honor to our university. I'm comfortable in believing that if a player is not giving their all for Tennessee today and everyday, they would not be wearing the uniform.

I honestly do not know whether Coach Dooley is a great coach, but I know he is doing everything in his power to give his all for Tennessee today and every day. That is all we can ask or expect.

Be well my Vol friend, and:

3-2 on the way to 11-2 baby... 11-2! And I am confident that is the expectation of EVERY member of the footVol program. I expect nothing less.

Go Vols!

jomo11 writes:

I think if DaRick uses those same moves he used when The Knoxville news station filmed him running out of the Police Station, to an awaiting car after his arrest last year, he will be fine

OrangeinCarolina2 writes:

in response to crimsonviper:

You whining has become a sickness..I respect you too much to not help...Please call these people asap. http://media.photobucket.com/image/wh...

Now that's funny! Better have a fleet for all the posers on this site. GO VOLS!

OrangeinCarolina2 writes:

in response to orangecountyvols:

Smokey,

Well said. You know, we understand where we are and won't jump off tall buildings if things don't work out.

It's a real pleasure to identify true fans like you, NavalOrange, Gerry, Volz4gzus etc. We all know it's a tough assignment..........losing very key players, plus all this occurring in another rebuilding season.

We know the Vols will go down fighting and true supporters such as you will either be in the stadium or pulling for them in front of the television..........( not at the keyboards as some others are wont to do. )

All this will be our reward when this young team returns, along with maturity, key recruits, and our patience may be tested at times, but it'll all be worth it.

Go Big Orange

A++++! GO VOLS!

Fryinpansvols writes:

I think the key for Da'Rick is just like Coach Baggett said not to get frustrated and keep playing hard and running crisp routes. We do need other guys to step up. Those other guys would be our whole offense! It starts up front with the line who have to fire off the ball low and run block. Pass protection has been solid but LSU is much better than Florida and Georgia defensively. Look for LSU to disguise blitz packages with defensive backs and linebackers. Also, whoever (Poole, Neal or Lane) is playing at the running back position has to run hard and run North and South. Simms has to smart with the football and if he has to take a sack or throw the football away thats what he has to do. And lastly, look for the short passing game with running backs out of the backfield, short crossing routes or hot routes. Mychal Rivera would be my favorite target if I were Matt Simms. Go Luck and GBO!

volfan8#549730 writes:

in response to jomo11:

I think if DaRick uses those same moves he used when The Knoxville news station filmed him running out of the Police Station, to an awaiting car after his arrest last year, he will be fine

F-

Fryinpansvols writes:

in response to orangeB:

This will be closer than most people think. They only scored 19 against Miss. State and the West Va game was closer than the score shows. West Va was down 27-21 and LSU ran a kick off back and WV never recovered. Les Miles luck will run out sooner or later. Bring down the goalposts!

Watch this for inspiration.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=982VDZ...

Lol! Thats funny, I just watched this about 2 weeks ago. I remember watching this game on a Monday night (moved from Saturday to Monday because of Hurricane Rita) in 2005 when we were down so big. I was ready to cut the TV off but I just knew that UT would fight on. What a BIG win in Baton Rouge! Too bad, we went 5-6 that season though. Good luck on Saturday Vols and GBO!

MilitaryBrat writes:

Da'Rick needs to live through the other receivers. If he is constantly double teamed, he should take pride if the other players have a big game. Because that means they are busy concerned about him, which opens up opportunity for someone else.

Thank you for the true Vols fans taking over this thread. It started out with the Trolls spewing there usual trash.

As someone else said, I can deal with rival fans, but former "fans", who trash Dooley and the program, are the worst. Especially when they try to act like they are fans by saying "we", or "us", then pull for a teams like Vandy, or who ever we play against that week.

If Dooley isn't competitive in four years, then he most likely will be looking for a new job, or be seriously on the Hot seat. But by then our talent level will be back and Tennessee will be alot more desireable postition.

The Trolls will never admit it, but Dooley can recruit.

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