Derek Dooley OK with 'spirited' chatter

Both Tennessee wide receiver Zach Rogers and coach Derek Dooley go up for pass as LSU cornerback Morris Claiborne defends at Neyland Stadium Saturday, Oct. 15, 2011.  (ADAM BRIMER/NEWS SENTINEL)

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Both Tennessee wide receiver Zach Rogers and coach Derek Dooley go up for pass as LSU cornerback Morris Claiborne defends at Neyland Stadium Saturday, Oct. 15, 2011. (ADAM BRIMER/NEWS SENTINEL)

Game recap: LSU 38, Tennessee 7

Tennessee sophomore receiver Da'Rick Rogers was doing some jawing Saturday afternoon — particularly with LSU cornerback/nickelback Tyrann Mathieu — but he didn't have much to say after the game.

Actually, Rogers wasn't made available for media interviews after LSU rolled the Vols 38-7 in an SEC game at Neyland Stadium.

"I just think (it was) young, spirited guys," Tennessee coach Derek Dooley said of the banter between players. "They've got a bunch of young spirit, and we've got some, too. I don't think it was anything malicious, just competitive, spirited guys wanting to compete."

Rogers caught three passes — which accounted for half of the completions by senior quarterback Matt Simms — for 63 yards.

Young Tacklers: Three of the Vols' top four tacklers against LSU were true freshmen — starting weak-side linebacker A.J. Johnson (11 tackles), backup free safety Brian Randolph (nine tackles) and starting strong-side linebacker Curt Maggitt (seven tackles). Randolph had a team-high eight solo tackles.

"They're going to be really good players, all three of those guys, and right now they're not," Dooley said. "They don't have the physicality to hold up in this kind of game, I don't think, because they're young, their bodies, but A.J. and Curt, especially A.J., especially has more physicality than anybody we have in the back seven."

Johnson had four solo tackles and seven assists.

"I told you all this was going to be his kind of game," Dooley said. "He's got stature (Johnson is 6-foot-3, 245 pounds) that can compete against these kinds of teams, and that's what we have to keep improving on."

No Turnovers: The Vols got no turnovers against LSU, which got two turnovers from the Vols — both on interceptions by Simms. Neither team fumbled the ball.

UT only has two takeaways since the season opener against Montana when it got three (two fumbles, one interception).

Since then, the Vols have only two recovered fumbles — one against Florida and another against Buffalo.

"It means we're not creating any (turnovers), and they're not giving us any," Dooley said. "That's about what it is. We're not creating any, and we're not getting any by accident."

Last year, the Vols won the turnover battle against LSU when they got four (three interceptions and a fumble recovery) and the Tigers had no takeaways. LSU won 16-14 in a controversial finish.

Young Returns: Devrin Young, a true freshman from Bearden High School, started the game with a 36-yard kickoff return and had a 60-yard kickoff return in the fourth quarter after LSU had taken a 31-7 lead.

Young bobbled a kickoff early in the second quarter, but managed to return it 10 yards.

"He's doing good," Dooley said of Young. "He had a couple of good returns."

Young caught a shovel pass from Simms during the Vols' second drive and turned it into a 21-yard gain.

He also had two carries for minus-5 yards.

After his 10-yard kickoff return, Young took a handoff from Simms on the Vols' next offensive play, took a hard hit from LSU defensive end Barkevious Mingo, and was thrown for a 7-yard loss.

Young wobbled off the field after the play.

"He got dinged up one time pretty bad, and we were a little nervous to get him back out there," Dooley said. "We shouldn't have put him back in."

Streak Snapped: UT's defense held LSU to a scoreless first quarter — snapping the Tigers' streak of 31 consecutive quarters with a score dating back to 2010.

On the last play of the first quarter, Spencer Ware was stopped for no gain on first-and-goal at the Vols' 5. LSU scored on the first play of the second quarter on Jarrett Lee's 5-yard pass to Rueben Randle.

Waggner Lick: UT free safety Prentiss Waggner left the game in the second quarter after trying to make a tackle on LSU quarterback Jordan Jefferson, who bowled over Waggner for a 9-yard gain before being tackled by Austin Johnson. Waggner returned later.

"I just did horrible technique leading in with my head," Waggner said.

Dave Link is a freelance contributor.

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posivol writes:

whatever,wheres cpf

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DwayneElizondoMountainDewHerbertCamacho writes:

I wonder if Dooley is also ok that Vandy just put 28 points up on a Georgia squad that limited UT to 12? Wonder how many "fans" will still be on this board yelling "patience" when we lose to Vandy? I'm sorry, but this squad is WORSE than it was last year and if you don't believe that, then YOU don't know anything about football. At the very LEAST Dooley should have this team making less mental mistakes, less stupid penalties, and actually putting up a fight against substandard SEC talent (i.e. UF and UGA), but they aren't doing any of those things. It isn't due to youth, it isn't due to our SEC schedule, it is due to the subpar coaching staff that UT paid dollar store prices to employ. You get what you pay for and no amount of patience or excuses will turn Derek Dooley, Jim Chaney, or Justin Wilcox into better coaches.

I am a UT fan. I want what is best for UT. Give this guy one more year, buy out his contract, and then find a real coach. I hope Dave Hart has the fortitude to do what UT needs rather than allow this program to become comfortable with mediocrity....like so many fans seem all too eager to do.

BustaRhymes writes:

Tennessee needs to finish cleaning up the mess left by Mike Hamilton – and that includes getting rid of Derek Dooley. There were two things telling about this game… (1) We ran the ball. That’s good right? Sure, but, why didn’t we run the ball against Florida? Or Georgia? Or heck, Montana? Same running backs… same offensive line… The answer is simple, coaching! The coaches were mesmerized with the arm of Tyler Bray, and (despite their quotes to the press) didn’t get the kids to focus on a power running game. (2) We’re apparently making our left-handed center snap the ball with his right hand. If that wasn’t stupid enough for you, the data from the Florida game alone would indicate that he’s unable to make this adjustment… however… we stubbornly insist that he continue to try… again, stupid. This is the worst Tennessee team in some time – possibly the worst ever. Next year’s team will be even worse. The coaches will blame the injury bug… most incompetent organizations have their excuses. The Vols need to bring in a coach with a national name, a defined offensive strategy and a record of success.,, and we need to be willing to pay whatever in order to hire this person…

heyitsme writes:

in response to posivol:

whatever,wheres cpf

Exactly where he needs to be... At home!

heyitsme writes:

in response to BustaRhymes:

Tennessee needs to finish cleaning up the mess left by Mike Hamilton – and that includes getting rid of Derek Dooley. There were two things telling about this game… (1) We ran the ball. That’s good right? Sure, but, why didn’t we run the ball against Florida? Or Georgia? Or heck, Montana? Same running backs… same offensive line… The answer is simple, coaching! The coaches were mesmerized with the arm of Tyler Bray, and (despite their quotes to the press) didn’t get the kids to focus on a power running game. (2) We’re apparently making our left-handed center snap the ball with his right hand. If that wasn’t stupid enough for you, the data from the Florida game alone would indicate that he’s unable to make this adjustment… however… we stubbornly insist that he continue to try… again, stupid. This is the worst Tennessee team in some time – possibly the worst ever. Next year’s team will be even worse. The coaches will blame the injury bug… most incompetent organizations have their excuses. The Vols need to bring in a coach with a national name, a defined offensive strategy and a record of success.,, and we need to be willing to pay whatever in order to hire this person…

We had a coach with a "national name" and a "record of success". Due to him initially, we find ourselves trying to rebuild in today. Good try. Come back and play again.

heyitsme writes:

in response to DwayneElizondoMountainDewHerbertCamacho:

I wonder if Dooley is also ok that Vandy just put 28 points up on a Georgia squad that limited UT to 12? Wonder how many "fans" will still be on this board yelling "patience" when we lose to Vandy? I'm sorry, but this squad is WORSE than it was last year and if you don't believe that, then YOU don't know anything about football. At the very LEAST Dooley should have this team making less mental mistakes, less stupid penalties, and actually putting up a fight against substandard SEC talent (i.e. UF and UGA), but they aren't doing any of those things. It isn't due to youth, it isn't due to our SEC schedule, it is due to the subpar coaching staff that UT paid dollar store prices to employ. You get what you pay for and no amount of patience or excuses will turn Derek Dooley, Jim Chaney, or Justin Wilcox into better coaches.

I am a UT fan. I want what is best for UT. Give this guy one more year, buy out his contract, and then find a real coach. I hope Dave Hart has the fortitude to do what UT needs rather than allow this program to become comfortable with mediocrity....like so many fans seem all too eager to do.

There's a difference between being a UT fan and a fan of football. Until you learn the difference, you'll continue to embarrass yourself.

Do you work for a carnival?

BruisedOrange writes:

Not using the quote button for this one because their passion is only matched by their ignorance.

We will only have an accurate assessment of this coaching staff--NOT when last year's freshmen are seniors, but--the year after they graduate. That's when we see what everything they learned in 4 years looks like after it's passed down to the next class.

In year zero of Dooley's regime we not only had a cupboard bare of talent, it was (in many spots) bare of seniors who could demonstrate the standard of practice needed, and the standard of play needed, to excel in the SEC.

Building a football team in the SEC ain't Plug 'n Play!

Until we get to Dooley's year five, impatient fans are just destructive fans. If you can't handle that... go saw a car in half.

vols37 writes:

Couldn't have said it better than dwayne elizondo. These guys are minor league coaches in the majors. Too many UT fans are becoming satisfied with mediocrity. Face the facts folks. Certainly one of the worst UT teams I've seen.

TommyJack writes:

in response to TheBlue:

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This man is full of baloney. And waist deep in guano.

9krpms writes:

There has been one prolific hire in the sec in recent memory. Saban. Urban was unproven in the big leagues, muschamp, richt, chizik, I can probably go on. Give Dooley time, this stretch we are going through down bray and hunter is not fun for anyone, fans, coaches, players, you name it. I don't know if Dooley will pan out but I can tell you no one knows after one full recruiting class.

volsfannsc writes:

in response to TheBlue:

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So you copy and paste the same one liner in every article? Lazy is as lazy does. Pathetic.

jobrando#216494 writes:

in response to DwayneElizondoMountainDewHerbertCamacho:

I wonder if Dooley is also ok that Vandy just put 28 points up on a Georgia squad that limited UT to 12? Wonder how many "fans" will still be on this board yelling "patience" when we lose to Vandy? I'm sorry, but this squad is WORSE than it was last year and if you don't believe that, then YOU don't know anything about football. At the very LEAST Dooley should have this team making less mental mistakes, less stupid penalties, and actually putting up a fight against substandard SEC talent (i.e. UF and UGA), but they aren't doing any of those things. It isn't due to youth, it isn't due to our SEC schedule, it is due to the subpar coaching staff that UT paid dollar store prices to employ. You get what you pay for and no amount of patience or excuses will turn Derek Dooley, Jim Chaney, or Justin Wilcox into better coaches.

I am a UT fan. I want what is best for UT. Give this guy one more year, buy out his contract, and then find a real coach. I hope Dave Hart has the fortitude to do what UT needs rather than allow this program to become comfortable with mediocrity....like so many fans seem all too eager to do.

Agree, Phil will be paid off and money will be no problem after next year to get the big hire. These coaches are lost in the SEC tide. Not a clue. After watching Vandy's almost come from behind win the differance is obvious in Vandy's hire and ours. Franklin can coach up and present a decent 2nd half game plan. The VOLS cant make a second half answer. I still want Dooley to get another year but not sure these coaches are learning how to coach in the SEC.

poppatock writes:

I'm not excited about the play of this team either, but didn't projections show them to finish 6-6, possibly 7-5? Still on track to do that.

volsfannsc writes:

in response to BustaRhymes:

Tennessee needs to finish cleaning up the mess left by Mike Hamilton – and that includes getting rid of Derek Dooley. There were two things telling about this game… (1) We ran the ball. That’s good right? Sure, but, why didn’t we run the ball against Florida? Or Georgia? Or heck, Montana? Same running backs… same offensive line… The answer is simple, coaching! The coaches were mesmerized with the arm of Tyler Bray, and (despite their quotes to the press) didn’t get the kids to focus on a power running game. (2) We’re apparently making our left-handed center snap the ball with his right hand. If that wasn’t stupid enough for you, the data from the Florida game alone would indicate that he’s unable to make this adjustment… however… we stubbornly insist that he continue to try… again, stupid. This is the worst Tennessee team in some time – possibly the worst ever. Next year’s team will be even worse. The coaches will blame the injury bug… most incompetent organizations have their excuses. The Vols need to bring in a coach with a national name, a defined offensive strategy and a record of success.,, and we need to be willing to pay whatever in order to hire this person…

OK, I'll bite. 1)Let's say we have an All-SEC QB that can hit his targets with one of the best receiving tandems in the conference. Let's ignore that and work on the running game. After all we were having subpar results with that- why not use it in a game. It's called using the best talent you have to get the job done. Had Dooley ignored the passing game you would still be on here complaining.
2) I'm not happy with Stone's results but if you remember last year, he wasn't too great left handed. I feel confident that with all the coaches we have out there, if they all agree he's the best we have, then he's the best we have. I don't remember Fulmer recruiting any All-American centers. In fact, I don't remember a center being in Kiffin's recruiting class. We need one, and let's hope one is in next year's class.
Your solution to this whole thing is to throw money at it. Reminds me of most politicians and it ain't working so hot for them. Maybe we could get Jim Tressel- he fits your requirements. Look, I'm not enthralled by this year's team, but they're MY team. They're Vols! Rebuilding is not a fun process and I can assure you Dooley left the magic wand at home. Either pull for YOUR team (who ever that might be) or get off the coaches back. In a few more years we will see if he's the right man for the job or not. Until then zip it.

mahabrando writes:

in response to DwayneElizondoMountainDewHerbertCamacho:

I wonder if Dooley is also ok that Vandy just put 28 points up on a Georgia squad that limited UT to 12? Wonder how many "fans" will still be on this board yelling "patience" when we lose to Vandy? I'm sorry, but this squad is WORSE than it was last year and if you don't believe that, then YOU don't know anything about football. At the very LEAST Dooley should have this team making less mental mistakes, less stupid penalties, and actually putting up a fight against substandard SEC talent (i.e. UF and UGA), but they aren't doing any of those things. It isn't due to youth, it isn't due to our SEC schedule, it is due to the subpar coaching staff that UT paid dollar store prices to employ. You get what you pay for and no amount of patience or excuses will turn Derek Dooley, Jim Chaney, or Justin Wilcox into better coaches.

I am a UT fan. I want what is best for UT. Give this guy one more year, buy out his contract, and then find a real coach. I hope Dave Hart has the fortitude to do what UT needs rather than allow this program to become comfortable with mediocrity....like so many fans seem all too eager to do.

Of course we are WORSE right now you schmendrick.... Bray is hurt, Hunter is hurt, Jackson was kicked off the team and is at some stupid technical school now... of course we are hurt!

We saw last night why Bray got the job OVER Simms...Simms likes throwing picks... he makes Garcia like decisions. And it looks with some of those throws he may be hanging with Garcia off the football field.

So of course this squad is worse than last year...we are missing the best QB/WR combo period.

And our main man free safety wanted to smoke pot...

Your logic on the coach is psychotic and if we followed it we would be in the mess for years to come because we wouldn't be giving the coaches time...and we would never grow. NEVER.

MartyDurham writes:

Go vols. Beat bama.

Vol-in-GA writes:

in response to poppatock:

I'm not excited about the play of this team either, but didn't projections show them to finish 6-6, possibly 7-5? Still on track to do that.

You are correct sir, but there is a population of "fans" that seem to expect instant success and continue to have unrealistic expectations. SC is very beatable! 7-5 is still a possibility. Patience is hard, especially when you love the Vols, but rebuilding takes time.

rootin4volz writes:

You people calling for Dooley's job in a season-and-a-half are unrealistic morons! Is it Dooley out there on the field not making plays? Heck, two former Vols called out these young players on the radio this past week. Dooley is merely playing the hand he was dealt, and IMHO he is doing just fine. Look at the experience these FRESHMEN and SOPHOMORES are getting having to learn to face adversity and working through it. They'll be just fine. But YOU idiots are gonna have to be patient. Remember, Alabama was in the same boat just a few short years ago. So calm the eff down!

GoVolsReally writes:

in response to BustaRhymes:

Tennessee needs to finish cleaning up the mess left by Mike Hamilton – and that includes getting rid of Derek Dooley. There were two things telling about this game… (1) We ran the ball. That’s good right? Sure, but, why didn’t we run the ball against Florida? Or Georgia? Or heck, Montana? Same running backs… same offensive line… The answer is simple, coaching! The coaches were mesmerized with the arm of Tyler Bray, and (despite their quotes to the press) didn’t get the kids to focus on a power running game. (2) We’re apparently making our left-handed center snap the ball with his right hand. If that wasn’t stupid enough for you, the data from the Florida game alone would indicate that he’s unable to make this adjustment… however… we stubbornly insist that he continue to try… again, stupid. This is the worst Tennessee team in some time – possibly the worst ever. Next year’s team will be even worse. The coaches will blame the injury bug… most incompetent organizations have their excuses. The Vols need to bring in a coach with a national name, a defined offensive strategy and a record of success.,, and we need to be willing to pay whatever in order to hire this person…

Oh, there you go. There all of you go! Fire the coach. Why don't we just hire coaches for 2 or 3 years, then fire them and hire another. I have been a Vol fan for over 45 years, good and bad. Either support or shut up! You act as though these kids want to lose. That the coaching staff wants to lose. Get real. We lost a lot when Phil left and even more with the hiring of Kiffin. You had a big name in Kiffin, where did that get you? Get this team back to basic football. That's what needs to be done. No big names, no big this or that, just basic football. CDD is working towards that.

GoVolsReally writes:

in response to volsfannsc:

OK, I'll bite. 1)Let's say we have an All-SEC QB that can hit his targets with one of the best receiving tandems in the conference. Let's ignore that and work on the running game. After all we were having subpar results with that- why not use it in a game. It's called using the best talent you have to get the job done. Had Dooley ignored the passing game you would still be on here complaining.
2) I'm not happy with Stone's results but if you remember last year, he wasn't too great left handed. I feel confident that with all the coaches we have out there, if they all agree he's the best we have, then he's the best we have. I don't remember Fulmer recruiting any All-American centers. In fact, I don't remember a center being in Kiffin's recruiting class. We need one, and let's hope one is in next year's class.
Your solution to this whole thing is to throw money at it. Reminds me of most politicians and it ain't working so hot for them. Maybe we could get Jim Tressel- he fits your requirements. Look, I'm not enthralled by this year's team, but they're MY team. They're Vols! Rebuilding is not a fun process and I can assure you Dooley left the magic wand at home. Either pull for YOUR team (who ever that might be) or get off the coaches back. In a few more years we will see if he's the right man for the job or not. Until then zip it.

Thank you and well put.

dk writes:

Gary Danielson (CBS) who knows a whole lot more than all the naysaying idiots on here said that it will take 2 more years of recruiting b4 the Vols can compete with the big boys. I have always known that. After CPF and Kiffin basically gutted the program, you guys expect Coach Dooley to come in with 2 weeks before signing date and in 18 months produce a team that can stay on the field with Bama, LSU, and Fla? 70% of the team is freshmen and Sophmores for goodness sake and they are going up against jrs and srs at these other schools. Give the Vols a break guys and the coaching staff too. Either get on board, support the team or get the heck off this forum. The fans leaving the stadium in the 3rd quarter was pathetic too. What kind of message do you think it was sending to the kids that TN is trying to recruit? Idiots!

GoSmokeyGo writes:

Come on guys....all fans hate losing. I do too! These are capable coaches and they are taking the team in the right direction. Think about what conference we play in, coaching changes and recruiting class damage due to changes, inexperience, and loss of key players. I'm not making excuses (and haven't heard the coaches or players make any BTW) but when you take all that into account, the cards are stacked against you. This coach has discipline, character, and has coached for and recruited for one of the best (our next opponents head man if you are lost). Give Dooley a few years to get his players and system established. Remember, this guy can recruit or Saban wouldn't have entrusted him as recruiting coordinator at LSU for what, 3 years. BTW, those players won a national championship. It takes time but we forget so easily because we are all passionate about our program. Adversity makes us stronger and I believe this team full of younger kids will be better and get better because of it!

crimsonviper writes:

in response to TommyJack:

This man is full of baloney. And waist deep in guano.

Now the fool is scrambling to wikipedia to find out which hemisphere Guano is in.

TarheelVol writes:

in response to BustaRhymes:

Tennessee needs to finish cleaning up the mess left by Mike Hamilton – and that includes getting rid of Derek Dooley. There were two things telling about this game… (1) We ran the ball. That’s good right? Sure, but, why didn’t we run the ball against Florida? Or Georgia? Or heck, Montana? Same running backs… same offensive line… The answer is simple, coaching! The coaches were mesmerized with the arm of Tyler Bray, and (despite their quotes to the press) didn’t get the kids to focus on a power running game. (2) We’re apparently making our left-handed center snap the ball with his right hand. If that wasn’t stupid enough for you, the data from the Florida game alone would indicate that he’s unable to make this adjustment… however… we stubbornly insist that he continue to try… again, stupid. This is the worst Tennessee team in some time – possibly the worst ever. Next year’s team will be even worse. The coaches will blame the injury bug… most incompetent organizations have their excuses. The Vols need to bring in a coach with a national name, a defined offensive strategy and a record of success.,, and we need to be willing to pay whatever in order to hire this person…

Dooley inherited a program totally depleted
of talent to work with. In both the Kiffin and
Dooley hires, Hamilton made a run at a number
of high profile coaches, waved some big money
under their noses and got NO takers. So we get
Kiffin and Dooley as a result. We can run off
Dooley and try it again, we'll get the same
result - another gamble on a good coach.

Auburn brings in Chizik, who has a decent talent
foundation to work with, and wins a NC in year two.
Paying Newton $180K helped, but we don't
do that kind of thing at UT. The point is that
until we lay a better talent (and attitude)
foundation, it's hard to tell how good these
coaches really are given what they have to work
with. We'll know by the end of next season
whether this Dooley experiment is going to
work out.

You can bring Saban in here and he'd
only win 6 or 7 with the kids on hand. If we
see an 8 or 9 win season in 2012, we'll know
that better times are around the corner and
Dooley is a keeper. There are no
quick fixes in a program as bad off
as we've gotten in Knoxpatch.

rockytopwestone writes:

Alot of the comments on here about this coaching staff and football team maybe correct but just remember this, they were playing the # 1 team in the land. No one else has looked very good against them either !

wbsmd1 writes:

in response to dk:

Gary Danielson (CBS) who knows a whole lot more than all the naysaying idiots on here said that it will take 2 more years of recruiting b4 the Vols can compete with the big boys. I have always known that. After CPF and Kiffin basically gutted the program, you guys expect Coach Dooley to come in with 2 weeks before signing date and in 18 months produce a team that can stay on the field with Bama, LSU, and Fla? 70% of the team is freshmen and Sophmores for goodness sake and they are going up against jrs and srs at these other schools. Give the Vols a break guys and the coaching staff too. Either get on board, support the team or get the heck off this forum. The fans leaving the stadium in the 3rd quarter was pathetic too. What kind of message do you think it was sending to the kids that TN is trying to recruit? Idiots!

Agreed but there is a huge difference between a top 5 ESPN- scout recruiting class and a top 15. Of the top 40 ranked players Dooley has offered several committed but none to UT. Fire Dooley 2 weeks before spring practice but only if Haslim is willing to recruit and pay for an accomplished coach. Someone like Myer, Gruden or Cower. Otherwise this err will continue and do not beleieve recruitin ratings do not matter. Look at the years UT stayed in the top 5 in recruiting and their records particularly in the 1990s.

powert#205805 writes:

in response to vols37:

Couldn't have said it better than dwayne elizondo. These guys are minor league coaches in the majors. Too many UT fans are becoming satisfied with mediocrity. Face the facts folks. Certainly one of the worst UT teams I've seen.

I might add that Dooley had a losing record in the minors.

Just another Hamilton mistake that we need to move past.

PHAT_VOL writes:

We have a J-V team. I dont understand why people can't understand that. Thanks Hamilton and Kiffen (ran off 30 players and left) for what we have now. If you dont like what is going on now and you think Georgia or Vandy is doing better then be a Vandy fan or pick another team. Quit Crying and man up.
GO VOLS !!!

GloryDays writes:

in response to posivol:

whatever,wheres cpf

How can you talk when you are getting whipped 38-7? The Vols player are soft, they don't hit hard enough to talk about it.

volfanz writes:

in response to dk:

Gary Danielson (CBS) who knows a whole lot more than all the naysaying idiots on here said that it will take 2 more years of recruiting b4 the Vols can compete with the big boys. I have always known that. After CPF and Kiffin basically gutted the program, you guys expect Coach Dooley to come in with 2 weeks before signing date and in 18 months produce a team that can stay on the field with Bama, LSU, and Fla? 70% of the team is freshmen and Sophmores for goodness sake and they are going up against jrs and srs at these other schools. Give the Vols a break guys and the coaching staff too. Either get on board, support the team or get the heck off this forum. The fans leaving the stadium in the 3rd quarter was pathetic too. What kind of message do you think it was sending to the kids that TN is trying to recruit? Idiots!

I like Dooley and understand he was dealt a hard hand to play....Yes he needs more time to recruit, but what concerns me, is how much success will we actually achieve recruiting while we consistently lose? These kids nowadays seem like they would rather go ride the bench at some glorious, winning, powerhouse university then actually play for a team like UT that is currently rebuilding....Even with all of our great history, losing will be the main focus that recruits scrutinize against us......I guess we will see how things turn out.

69vol08 writes:

in response to DwayneElizondoMountainDewHerbertCamacho:

I wonder if Dooley is also ok that Vandy just put 28 points up on a Georgia squad that limited UT to 12? Wonder how many "fans" will still be on this board yelling "patience" when we lose to Vandy? I'm sorry, but this squad is WORSE than it was last year and if you don't believe that, then YOU don't know anything about football. At the very LEAST Dooley should have this team making less mental mistakes, less stupid penalties, and actually putting up a fight against substandard SEC talent (i.e. UF and UGA), but they aren't doing any of those things. It isn't due to youth, it isn't due to our SEC schedule, it is due to the subpar coaching staff that UT paid dollar store prices to employ. You get what you pay for and no amount of patience or excuses will turn Derek Dooley, Jim Chaney, or Justin Wilcox into better coaches.

I am a UT fan. I want what is best for UT. Give this guy one more year, buy out his contract, and then find a real coach. I hope Dave Hart has the fortitude to do what UT needs rather than allow this program to become comfortable with mediocrity....like so many fans seem all too eager to do.

Wow! You just said Payton Manning doesn't know anything about football! I wonder what you are basing your vast knowledge on. How many years did you play or coach at the D1 level? Or NFL?

...that is what I thought!

UTKin1992 writes:

in response to BustaRhymes:

Tennessee needs to finish cleaning up the mess left by Mike Hamilton – and that includes getting rid of Derek Dooley. There were two things telling about this game… (1) We ran the ball. That’s good right? Sure, but, why didn’t we run the ball against Florida? Or Georgia? Or heck, Montana? Same running backs… same offensive line… The answer is simple, coaching! The coaches were mesmerized with the arm of Tyler Bray, and (despite their quotes to the press) didn’t get the kids to focus on a power running game. (2) We’re apparently making our left-handed center snap the ball with his right hand. If that wasn’t stupid enough for you, the data from the Florida game alone would indicate that he’s unable to make this adjustment… however… we stubbornly insist that he continue to try… again, stupid. This is the worst Tennessee team in some time – possibly the worst ever. Next year’s team will be even worse. The coaches will blame the injury bug… most incompetent organizations have their excuses. The Vols need to bring in a coach with a national name, a defined offensive strategy and a record of success.,, and we need to be willing to pay whatever in order to hire this person…

I completely agree. Except for one point.

I don't think we can afford another coaching change for another couple years. In the interim, we need to get used to losing and let Dooley dig his own hole - which shouldn't be a problem.

RetainDerekDooleyPlease writes:

If a head coach can't fix or make a substitution necessary to fix something so elementary as a center snap, half way through a season, then he's not an SEC coach. Plain and simple.

BigHornBuckShot writes:

We have given up. Simple as that. If we hadn't of given up, Worley would be in there. Simms made a big mistake, just like some others that came to Tennessee. That sweet little orange pride hostess was hard to turn down. Give her credit, she worked her arse off.

TarheelVol writes:

in response to volfanz:

I like Dooley and understand he was dealt a hard hand to play....Yes he needs more time to recruit, but what concerns me, is how much success will we actually achieve recruiting while we consistently lose? These kids nowadays seem like they would rather go ride the bench at some glorious, winning, powerhouse university then actually play for a team like UT that is currently rebuilding....Even with all of our great history, losing will be the main focus that recruits scrutinize against us......I guess we will see how things turn out.

We're better off without the kids who want to ride the pine at Bama.
There's plenty of top kids who want playing time now to build on.
Dooley knows that and also knows that there are a lot of 3 star
players out there who are better than rated and we'll take them
and whatever 4 and 5 stars we can get. Coach-em up and we'll be
back in business in another year or two.

It's nice to load up on 4 and 5 star recruits every year. Texas, Bama,
Florida and some other programs do. But if that's all there is to it,
then why are Texas and Florida "down" right now? A lot of Florida's
problem last year was poor team chemistry between freshman 4-5 star recruits and veterans. It was enough to send Urbie into retirement for
an extended bout of thumb-sucking.

And speaking of Urbie, he still looks like he has terminal constipation.
Can't wait til he gets the OSU, I'm sorry, TOSU job and gets taken to the
woodshed every year by an SEC team in the bowls.

AncientVolFan writes:

I know this board is more for expressing emotion than logic and that's fine. But for all those who claim Cutcliffe made Fulmer, a simple question. What has Cutcliffe made without Fulmer?
In the best of world's the powers that be should have given Fulmer one more year and allowed him to bow out gracefully. NOt for Fulmer's sake, for the programs sake.
I'm a Fulmer fan, hated Kiffen from the get-go and sincerely wish Dooley success.

BigHornBuckShot writes:

BTW, What was the difference in Newton Sr. Shopping his son to Miss. St. and Auburn, when Nance Sr. did the same thing with Derick Rogers?

RetainDerekDooleyPlease writes:

DaRick Rogers is the Randy Moss of Tennessee football. He takes more plays off than a guy with 6 weeks paid vacation. Devrin Young got run down by LSU like a cat running down a mouse. What game were you watching

crockett1836 writes:

in response to MerlOT_GoVols:

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What the heck does that even mean. That's a 1980's garbage response. CPF probably has a bigger house too. No negative comments about people that make money, let's all remember that. MerlOT, think before you type...and then don't. Or...wait a minute...do you make more money than me.

utclyde16 writes:

Get off their backs! Not many coaches can come into a situation like Dooley did and be expected to win right away. We played the number one team in the country with a second string as good as most teams in the SEC. We are playing without our #1 QB,WR and others. Dooley has at least taken control of his players off the field which some other coaches didn't. Maybe some of you would rather have Lois Lane back with his mafia coaches. UT will be back. Just give the new AD and Dooley a chance and get off their backs. Let them keep their minds on the game and not have to worry about the useless remarks being made. Oh, by the way Mr. Miles! Good job of running the score up at the last. Just remember what goes around comes around.

crockett1836 writes:

Now this is funny. The crack staff here at GVX actually wouldn't let me say douchbagg (misspelled here). Has a comment that says in a parent-like manner, "watch your mouth." Lots of freakin laughs. So who's the guy that types all of those words into a text-search tool? I wonder if he feels ok about it. Good grief, this is a "blog" on a "post." Let's not make it more important than it is.

TarheelVol writes:

in response to BigHornBuckShot:

BTW, What was the difference in Newton Sr. Shopping his son to Miss. St. and Auburn, when Nance Sr. did the same thing with Derick Rogers?

I think the difference is $180,000 in three installment payments.

posivol writes:

in response to TennVolFan:

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I don`t have a clue

well put,well said!

posivol writes:

in response to heyitsme:

Exactly where he needs to be... At home!

wonder if anybody saw this phooey coming.we went from middle of the pack w/ top peaks to bottom of the pack and clueless.

all for the sake of change,hows that working for you on saturdays.

TarheelVol writes:

in response to RetainDerekDooleyPlease:

DaRick Rogers is the Randy Moss of Tennessee football. He takes more plays off than a guy with 6 weeks paid vacation. Devrin Young got run down by LSU like a cat running down a mouse. What game were you watching

At least we have Moss's old coach handling him. Hopefully he knows
what buttons to push. With DaRick, I think it is more an issue with focus
and consistency. Tune this guy up some and get Hunter back next year,
and UT will have an unstoppable combo for Bray to play pitch and catch with.
And if we can develop a running game to go with them, we'll do fine.

posivol writes:

in response to MerlOT_GoVols:

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dont leave out ole 3rd and chavis everbody hated as well.

such a stupid fanbase,you got what you wanted.

now live w/ it every saturday.

dk writes:

in response to volfanz:

I like Dooley and understand he was dealt a hard hand to play....Yes he needs more time to recruit, but what concerns me, is how much success will we actually achieve recruiting while we consistently lose? These kids nowadays seem like they would rather go ride the bench at some glorious, winning, powerhouse university then actually play for a team like UT that is currently rebuilding....Even with all of our great history, losing will be the main focus that recruits scrutinize against us......I guess we will see how things turn out.

Good point, but the first class that Dooley recruited was basically Kiffin's class plus a couple of players that everybody likes. Does the name Justin Hunter or Da'Rick Rogers ring a bell? The 2nd class signed in spite of the NCAA noose hanging over UT's head. Let's see how the next class or two turns out with the NCAA gone. As for all the 4 and 5 stars that Fulmer signed, only 1 NC to his credit and 3 losses the next year with a better team than the one that beat Florida State for the NC. What's up with that? All the 5 stars that Kiffin recruited??? Not on the team. Bunch of thugs. Does anyone really want a team of thugs to represent the university? I don't think so. I'm willing to give Dooley a couple more years to see if Tennessee can compete with the top of the SEC.

RetainDerekDooleyPlease writes:

in response to posivol:

wonder if anybody saw this phooey coming.we went from middle of the pack w/ top peaks to bottom of the pack and clueless.

all for the sake of change,hows that working for you on saturdays.

Exactly - Now progress under Dooley is defined by bragging about a 165lb running back (Devrin Young) who runs a 4.5 40 and who couldn't make the scout team at Bama. Same people who talked about Nick Reveiz as if he were an SEC linebacker.

For those who care - The Temple Owls (that's Temple) shut out Buffalo yesterday 34-0. A worse margin than UT did with Tyler Bray. And didn't give up 10 in the process. Welcome to the wonderful world of Derek Dooley. Where falling behind Temple is defined as progress.

VolQB writes:

B and moaning by so called Vols fans are expected. We want excellence now. Guess what, it's not going to happen. LSU is a much better team right now.

We are at 6+ years of the same people in charge of B&M. They "occupy" all discussion. We are at a point to listen to "hot seat" for a 2nd year coach that is coaching a very young talented team. Yes, i would have prefered "johnny up the middle" and "3rd and Chavis" yesterday to keep the game close. B&M.

Not sure the mighty Saban should have made it out of LSU job. 8-5 record in 2003 and got beat by Minnisota in a lesser bowl in 2004. Minnisota? Oh, Iowa beat LSU in 2003.

Not really one post about the article regarding LSU being classless or Bullard being a bull on the O line. He knows how to shutup guys across the line. Vols will be back on top before Texas, Miami, GA, FSU, Penn St, Nebraska and USC. Support and get recruits.

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