John Adams: Vols a big bust in big-boy football

John Adams

Game recap: Florida 33, Tennessee 23

GAINESVILLE, Fla. — Florida was more accommodating than dominating Saturday afternoon in The Swamp. And it still beat Tennessee 33-23.

What does that tell you?

It tells you the Gators can lose 150 yards in penalties, fumble the ball over to UT on their 17-yard line, fall all over themselves inside the Vols' 20 and still win their seventh consecutive game in the series.

It also tells you the Vols still aren't ready for "big-boy football" as coach Derek Dooley termed it last week after a victory over Cincinnati.

Better Florida teams than this one would have put the Vols away in the first half. Instead, despite all of UT's deficiencies, it was still within striking distance late in the third quarter.

What happened next should have surprised no one: UT center James Stone snapped a groundball to quarterback Tyler Bray, who recovered for a 13-yard loss. That was a new low for Stone, who repeatedly left the 6-foot-6 Bray reaching below his knees for the ball.

The Vols struggled to execute something as rudimentary as the center snap. That's how bad it was.

The only thing worse than UT's deep snap was its running game. After struggling through two lopsided victories to open the season, it took another step against the Gators. It went backward.

Running backs Tauren Poole and Marlin Lane carried 14 times for 27 yards. The Vols finished with a net minus-9 yards rushing.

The running backs couldn't create anything on their own, as Chris Rainey did for the Gators. And the offensive line was overmatched.

That was too much for UT's passing game to overcome, particularly after it lost star wide receiver Justin Hunter to an apparent knee injury on the first drive of the game. Bray completed 26 of 48 passes for 288 yards and three touchdowns, but those stats were terribly misleading.

Bray threw two interceptions, and the Gators might have had four more if they had held on to the ball. His first interception was devastating.

UT had gathered some momentum by cutting Florida's lead to 16-7 on a scoring drive near the end of the first half. Then, on its first possession of the second half, Bray tried to drop a pass over safety Josh Evans' head. Evans made a leaping catch for an interception to set up a 42-yard touchdown drive.

Even when Bray wasn't throwing interceptions, he didn't look nearly as sharp as he did the first two games against inferior competition. Florida's pass rush contributed to that, but Bray also made more bad throws than he did in the first two games combined.

UT's defense limited Florida to 134 yards rushing and held Florida's wide receivers to only three catches. But the Vols looked bewildered on Florida's touchdown drive to open the game when quarterback John Brantley completed one pass after another to his running backs. They also were at a loss when Rainey turned another short completion into an 83-yard touchdown play midway through the third quarter.

Despite those breakdowns, UT's most glaring problems remain its running game and offensive line. For all of its returning starters, the offensive line doesn't look improved over last season when it steps up in competition.

Florida has a solid defensive front. It doesn't have the depth of quality that LSU does or the playmakers that South Carolina does.

After an open date next Saturday and Buffalo the following week, there's more big-boy football coming in October. The Vols have three weeks to get ready for it.

John Adams is a senior columnist. He may be reached at 865-342-6284 or adamsj@knoxnews.com. Follow him at http://twitter.com/johnadamskns.

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KarnsVol writes:

We'll be ready for it. This game may have been too much for this young team to handle psychologically at this point in the year. (After Hunter went down, if not before.) But we still got 8 wins in us. It'll be a good year when its all said and done. Go Vols!!!

agohn writes:

Believe in Orange!

VolAlum03ISBACK (Inactive) writes:

Hey Vanderbilt,

See what UT is doing with the schedule? This is how you suk and still make it into a bowl game. Think you guys would have figured that out by now.

Volstate writes:

Until we find a running back that can create chances our offense will get nowhere especially if Hunter is done for the season. Poole has no vision and can't see open areas to run to. He is very one dimensional. I hate to say it Vol fans but we are going to lose to Alabama, LSU, and probably South Carolina. We might beat Georgia because they are awful and we'll beat Vanderbilt and Kentucky. Oh one more thing...Palardy can't kick a field goal. This all sound familiar?

BigVolinCarolina writes:

After 3 games, I will now toss out this question: Is it me, or does our O-Line look slow? I'm being serious.

We definitely look bigger than last year, but we are incredibly slow off the snap. There's still lots of games left, but I saw it against Montana, Cincy and Florida. They don't have to be fast, but they need to be quick. Not sure if it's a product of a new Strength & Conditioning coach or what (we've had a revolving door in that role for the past few seasons).

Tgordon writes:

in response to Volstate:

Until we find a running back that can create chances our offense will get nowhere especially if Hunter is done for the season. Poole has no vision and can't see open areas to run to. He is very one dimensional. I hate to say it Vol fans but we are going to lose to Alabama, LSU, and probably South Carolina. We might beat Georgia because they are awful and we'll beat Vanderbilt and Kentucky. Oh one more thing...Palardy can't kick a field goal. This all sound familiar?

I totally agree. I recall talk of Poole being a 2000 yard back. I though they were talking about in a season not a career.

Realist writes:

A lot of people on talk radio talking about the teams mental devastation of losing Hunter. The truth is we got smacked in the mouth without much of a response. Stone was beaten up pretty bad today which may have caused his continuous bad snaps. Twice he was put on his back and pushed into Bray in the shotgun! As for the defense, if we tackle we stop the long drives. Awful tackling again! If the pass rush was as good as it was while they were in victory formation, there may have been a different outcome. Not a classy finish!

TommyJack writes:

Don't see much to argue with, Adams.

djohnnyg writes:

The problem is this:

Florida has better players because they have a better recruiting program.

Florida has better coaching. They went out and hired the hottest candidate in the country. UT hired a guy from Louisiana Tech who didn't even have an impressive won loss record.

Florida will always have better players, better coaching and a better football program all around.

Florida is superior on all levels which is why year after year Florida will continue to administer its annual beatdown against the Vols.

The Vols have a lot of pride, great fans and tremendous support, but it's not enough to stop them from being Florida's, Alabama's, LSU's, and Auburn's patsy. Not to mention Georgia and South Carolina.

Be happy with beating Miss St., Vandy and Kentucky and get an occasional win against Ole Miss or the occasional upset cuz this program CANNOT compete with the big boys.

The UT kids out there are trying hard, bless their hearts, but this whole program is just plain overmatched- top to bottom and it's not changing anytime soon.

DC_your_mom_called writes:

Would Adams have been able to write this column had the letter 'e' on his keyboard stopped working three sentences into it? Not trying to make excuses, but does he not realize how key Justin Hunter was to our offense? Adams, did you jump for joy when that happened, knowing that you'd have another opportunity to write one of those predictably snide, condescending articles that you've come so accustomed to writing? I boycotted you years ago, made the mistake of letting go of that, and now will resume that boycott. You just seem to take a little too much joy in celebrating the Vols hardships, not unlike several of the trolls on this board. I don't read much of what they have to say either since it is predictable, biased, and generally amateurish. I'll not read anything else Adams has to say either.

hueypilot writes:

in response to DC_your_mom_called:

Would Adams have been able to write this column had the letter 'e' on his keyboard stopped working three sentences into it? Not trying to make excuses, but does he not realize how key Justin Hunter was to our offense? Adams, did you jump for joy when that happened, knowing that you'd have another opportunity to write one of those predictably snide, condescending articles that you've come so accustomed to writing? I boycotted you years ago, made the mistake of letting go of that, and now will resume that boycott. You just seem to take a little too much joy in celebrating the Vols hardships, not unlike several of the trolls on this board. I don't read much of what they have to say either since it is predictable, biased, and generally amateurish. I'll not read anything else Adams has to say either.

Despite your obvious dislike for Adama, he's not off the mark, not at all. The loss of Hunter made Florida's defense so much easier. I had great seats in that visiting team buffer zone right behind the bench, 3rd row, 45 yard line. After Hunter's injury they stacked two defenders, one press, one safety ten yards deeper on D Rogers. Bray did a credible job getting the ball to others, but Dallas? Arnett? Milton? These were guys who's names I've not heard called and now they had to step up.
In all of that Florida repeatedly made mistakes and let us stay close, despite fumbling center snaps and a bushel basket full of crippling penalties (they tried to give us the game with PI penalties right and left) A junior/senior laden team might have been able to overcome the loss of their biggest offensive playmaker on the first series and their best defensive player in pre season practice. A freshman/sophomore laden team not so much
Still don't see Adams celebrating Vols hardship as you say. He picked the Vols to win yesterday. He just called it like it was in his view from the pressbox and it agrees with my view from the bleachers.

The big difference was Rainey. The block, the big catch and run, and his offense in the first quarter to spot them the initial ten point lead. We have no player on our team like Rainey, but few in the country do. He is a special player and his speed and quickness is jaw dropping.

DannyVol writes:

in response to hueypilot:

Despite your obvious dislike for Adama, he's not off the mark, not at all. The loss of Hunter made Florida's defense so much easier. I had great seats in that visiting team buffer zone right behind the bench, 3rd row, 45 yard line. After Hunter's injury they stacked two defenders, one press, one safety ten yards deeper on D Rogers. Bray did a credible job getting the ball to others, but Dallas? Arnett? Milton? These were guys who's names I've not heard called and now they had to step up.
In all of that Florida repeatedly made mistakes and let us stay close, despite fumbling center snaps and a bushel basket full of crippling penalties (they tried to give us the game with PI penalties right and left) A junior/senior laden team might have been able to overcome the loss of their biggest offensive playmaker on the first series and their best defensive player in pre season practice. A freshman/sophomore laden team not so much
Still don't see Adams celebrating Vols hardship as you say. He picked the Vols to win yesterday. He just called it like it was in his view from the pressbox and it agrees with my view from the bleachers.

The big difference was Rainey. The block, the big catch and run, and his offense in the first quarter to spot them the initial ten point lead. We have no player on our team like Rainey, but few in the country do. He is a special player and his speed and quickness is jaw dropping.

Adams can be on target after a loss like this, but it still does not take away scores of columns which were just plain old mean spirited against the home team. Believe me, he enjoyed this game immensely. If you have been paying attention for four years, you'd know that.

flatrock writes:

Volunteers and Gators both have plenty of room for improvement. The difference today was Chris Rainey.
Ponder this: how would game have gone had Rainey gone down in first quarter, instead of Justin Hunter?

KFDLaw writes:

Let's put yesterday's game in the books and move on to the next challenge. Heard that one before? Over the past ten years we have grown to accept mediocrity from our beloved Vols. Year after year we hear they are a young team that needs more talent and experience. Next year we will be better has been sold to us faithful fans over and over again. Our last two coaches have come from programs that lost a lot more than they won, but these fellows were supposed to turn things around when they arrived on Cumberland Avenue. How? They recruit kickers who can't kick, centers who cannot snap the ball and an offensive line that cannot sustain a running game. We have an A+ quarterback playing on a C- team. Yesterday's game was a step back to the below average performance we have seen in almost every big game for a decade. It is not cheap to take a family of four to the home games. Lately, I have been questioning my own judgment.

gatorknox writes:

in response to flatrock:

Volunteers and Gators both have plenty of room for improvement. The difference today was Chris Rainey.
Ponder this: how would game have gone had Rainey gone down in first quarter, instead of Justin Hunter?

Ponder this, the Gators were without their best CB, without their best receiver (J Reed), what could the outcome have been had they been playing? The truth is, it doesn't matter and the only thing that does is the win-loss column. UT lost, but played a decent game and have a lot to build on.

The Gators in the secondary have 3 starting freshmen and 2 sophomores and one junior, they grew up a bit yesterday and the good thing is, Bray is the best QB we will face and I thought our young secondary was severely tested and we still won, so we'll take that but the Gators will have some growing pains with that young of a secondary. The future is bright for both Gators and Vols. Good luck the rest of the way

Orangeblood13 writes:

in response to djohnnyg:

The problem is this:

Florida has better players because they have a better recruiting program.

Florida has better coaching. They went out and hired the hottest candidate in the country. UT hired a guy from Louisiana Tech who didn't even have an impressive won loss record.

Florida will always have better players, better coaching and a better football program all around.

Florida is superior on all levels which is why year after year Florida will continue to administer its annual beatdown against the Vols.

The Vols have a lot of pride, great fans and tremendous support, but it's not enough to stop them from being Florida's, Alabama's, LSU's, and Auburn's patsy. Not to mention Georgia and South Carolina.

Be happy with beating Miss St., Vandy and Kentucky and get an occasional win against Ole Miss or the occasional upset cuz this program CANNOT compete with the big boys.

The UT kids out there are trying hard, bless their hearts, but this whole program is just plain overmatched- top to bottom and it's not changing anytime soon.

No one cares for your man crush on the gators
You keep living your fantasy from granny's basement
Trash

oldbasshead writes:

Since the OL is not much if any better than last year, I would put the blame on the OL coach. Perhaps this group of OL players are just average at best.

Classof72 writes:

Big-boy football? The Vol offensive line needs a set of jumbo lingerie league uniforms. They're only ready for girlie football. The ground game doesn't run; it doesn't even drip.

There is very little talent visible yet on the defense, kicking or returning kicks.

Seriously, the kids are gonna be OK someday soon, but probably not this year. They're outmanned, but scrappy. It's gonna take some recruiting time for Dooley to get them going.

It's a good young group with a really good coaching staff; they will require patience while restoring a badly depleted roster.

They aren't a very good team, but they will be. Let's be proud to support them while they grow into a team we can be very proud of. I hope.

gortrtt writes:

Lack of a running attack kills us, plain and simple. There's no reason to jump off a cliff, it's just going to take some time to corral the appropriate players.

I'm not necessarily talking about running backs, either. Although UT's linemen have pass-protected for Bray pretty well through 3 games, playing against Florida's d-line exposed their weakness in trying to run block. In that aspect of the game, they haven't improved much over last year. It takes time to establish an offensive line.

Contrary to what Adams might say, the Vols are not "a big bust". They ARE a team of young players who have chosen to remain Volunteers after three years of player exodus, either voluntary or by edict, that resulted, ultimately, from the actions taken by a TOTALLY inept Mike Hamilton.

These Vols lost to a Florida team loaded with talent that is coached by a staff that enjoyed a stable transition from an exiting staff that had won two of the last five national championships. And if the Tennessee offense had performed as well as the Tennessee defense performed in this game, the Vols would most likely have prevailed. But they did not.

The 2011 Vols are better than the 2010 Vols, but they still play in the SEC and they are going to take their lumps this season. From the looks of it, Florida will, too.

If there is a "big bust" to be found, we may look to a sports editor who was naive to the point that he picked the Vols to win by 7.

gortrtt writes:

in response to gatorknox:

Ponder this, the Gators were without their best CB, without their best receiver (J Reed), what could the outcome have been had they been playing? The truth is, it doesn't matter and the only thing that does is the win-loss column. UT lost, but played a decent game and have a lot to build on.

The Gators in the secondary have 3 starting freshmen and 2 sophomores and one junior, they grew up a bit yesterday and the good thing is, Bray is the best QB we will face and I thought our young secondary was severely tested and we still won, so we'll take that but the Gators will have some growing pains with that young of a secondary. The future is bright for both Gators and Vols. Good luck the rest of the way

Good post. Good luck back at ya'.

ClassicVol (Inactive) writes:

I said this team was six wins...seven at best. We are a year or two away but i'm proud of the way they fought.

knoxchatter writes:

This article is so RIGHT ON!! And I keep hearing some say 'had it not been for the loss of Justin Hunter.....' Well, NO...if it's a spade, let's call it a spade...yes, it hurt us with the loss of Hunter, but we were already playing poorly when that occurred...and the loss of Hunter had nothing to do with our running game, our center's ability to snap the ball, the O-line, numerous missed tackles, etc. etc...so, in reality...had Hunter played the whole game...the outcome may have been BETTER, but the final score wouldn't have been much DIFFERENT. We have a long way to go...a lot of rebuilding ahead of us...and a lonnnng October! GBO!! We are all still behind you!

johnlg00 writes:

Good comments so far today, even from a comparatively civil Florida fan. Guess the trolls are over on the game articles. Fairly typical sub-par Vol performance against a marginally more talented Gator team. The thing is, Florida has more play-makers than the Vols do, a discrepancy that was magnified by the loss of Hunter. The Vols simply do not play to their full capability against the Gators, especially in the Swamp.

Most disappointing to me was the fact that the Vols almost never attempt anything resembling deception in their game plans; a play-action pass--with a fake to an RB who isn't going to scare anyone--almost looks like a trick play in the overall context of their offense. Clearly, the coaching staff and the majority of fans would like to see a team which can physically impose its will on the opposition. Well, guess what; they don't have the personnel or perhaps even the personality to do that right now. The Vols will never be a razzle-dazzle triple-option team for a multitude of reasons, but that is NO REASON for them not to have SOMETHING extra they can pull out of the bag when the standard stuff is not working. Maybe the coaches think the team is too young and inexperienced to handle anything complicated, and they may be right, but, again, if what you are doing isn't working, try something ELSE.

The season isn't over; I think they can still win eight games, but they have a LOT to fix to ensure that, especially if Hunter is out for the season. I'm a fan, so I'll still pull for them all the way, and there were some hopeful signs even in the loss, but it is increasingly clear to me that the climb back to the top will be much longer and harder than I had hoped.

jone8191#247590 writes:

Pardon me if I don't sprinkle this loss with pixie dust. Adams is spot on. This team has:
1. No pass rush.
2. No running game.
3. Weak kicking game.
4. Apparently no one on campus who can snap the ball.
5. Long afternoons ahead. Alabama, South Caroline, LSU and yes, Georgia are all better than Florida.
I have seen this before

rocket22 writes:

Everyone got over confident after we beat 2 inferior teams. As stated earlier, we are a couple of years away due to the Kiffin debacle. John Adams needs to go somewhere else to write his negative articles. Apparently, this is what he learned in Journalism was to be consistently negative. Go back and take the class again.

OTPVol writes:

Our guys need depth and we need patience. I'd rather be a Vol than anything else in the world on any Saturday. GO VOLS!!! GO CDD!!!!

VolunteerLifer writes:

The demoralizing thing is:

This team doesn't appear to be better than it was last year at this time. The loss of last year's seniors seems to hurt more than I thought it would, and the sophs this year don't appear to be improved over what they were as freshmen last year. Maybe yesterday was an unrepresentative sample, I hope so. But if yesterday gave us a true read on this team - and I believe it does - then they have a long way to go if they are ever going to beat anyone of substance. I got to say I'm very disappointed in the coaches and players right now. But I am still in their corner.

hueypilot writes:

in response to BolivarBob:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

I'm as big a homer as anybody but, with the possible exception of Adams not giving us a "the boys didn't quit" attaboy, I can't really find fault with his assessment. Bray was not as sharp as past games, but having to field ground balls before he could throw a quick out obviously hurt his timing. If Florida had been on their game, and with 150 yds in penaties they clearly weren't, this could have gotten ugly. Muschamp called off the dogs and didn't throw hardly at all in that long fourth quarter drive. This could have been as bad as any Florida Tennessee whipping in memory. A ten point loss doesn't even tell how bad they beat us.

shipperman#280095 writes:

in response to Orangeblood13:

No one cares for your man crush on the gators
You keep living your fantasy from granny's basement
Trash

I am a VOL fan for many years, and to me, Florida will always s**k. But this dude hit the nail on the head. Dooley is in over his head. It is time to get ready to spend some bucks and get an established coach. Fulmer lost his edge, and had to go, but we haven't hired a name to get us back on top. I give Dooley 1-2 more years, tops

crockett1836 writes:

Bray is a top 3 QB. How I know: Try doing this at your house. Go outside, pick a cloud in the sky. Touch your toes, then look up and find that same cloud. If you can do that, you might want to try out as QB for UT. 27 low snaps can't be fun when you have that DLine coming at you. 3/300 is a good stat line with no running game.

I'll go ahead and breath some life into the argument of "why we can't beat UF." You won't like this. The reason is the same reason we can't keep a great back-up QB from going to Chattanooga, or a great back-up running back from going to Kansas. How about the fact that it takes $2M to recruit annually - heck Florida spends about 47 dollars. Florida went thru a coaching transition, had Urban say "i'm retiring, i'm sick, wait a minute, i'm ok," and still brought in a top recruiting class. It's about depth in the SEC. When one receiver goes down, we lose? Come on!, get a grip.

Just be realistic in your expectations for the coaching staff. They'll establish a different identity for UT, and we'll be alright.

BigVolFaninSC writes:

in response to djohnnyg:

The problem is this:

Florida has better players because they have a better recruiting program.

Florida has better coaching. They went out and hired the hottest candidate in the country. UT hired a guy from Louisiana Tech who didn't even have an impressive won loss record.

Florida will always have better players, better coaching and a better football program all around.

Florida is superior on all levels which is why year after year Florida will continue to administer its annual beatdown against the Vols.

The Vols have a lot of pride, great fans and tremendous support, but it's not enough to stop them from being Florida's, Alabama's, LSU's, and Auburn's patsy. Not to mention Georgia and South Carolina.

Be happy with beating Miss St., Vandy and Kentucky and get an occasional win against Ole Miss or the occasional upset cuz this program CANNOT compete with the big boys.

The UT kids out there are trying hard, bless their hearts, but this whole program is just plain overmatched- top to bottom and it's not changing anytime soon.

Why do you say Tennessee can't compete in recruiting with other SEC schools? Fulmer proved that indeed we CAN compete! There is no reason to believe that given time that we can't ascend to the top! If everyone took YOUR mindset, we'd never get back because you said to be satisfied with mediocrity! Once a football team is EVER satisfied, then things will only get worse! These things are cyclical; our time will come! No one wins every year! Not even Urban! Our boys took a beating yesterday! They have a choice how to handle that beating going forward! I happen to be in the camp that believes adversity brings results quicker than comfort! I'd love to have full access to practice this week! It would be a LEARNING experience for sure! Keep some faith! GBO!

TKO writes:

Cannot work miracles after just one year and a heap of garbage Dooley inherited. Some of these posters on this site seem to believe he has no idea that he needs speed and strength on this team. How many years did it take to get the team in this condition. Don't expect for it to turn around in a year. Give the guy that came to Tennessee to clean up the program a chance. I didn't see anyone else jumping at it. But, of course, since some of you believe that you can recruit the #1 class in america and turn the team around in a year, you should go down and apply for the job. If not, stay of the man's back that's trying to clean up the mess.
Go Vols!

arkyvol writes:

if dooley turns out to be a disappointment, you can chalk it up to hamilton, just one of a long list of similar fiascoes. thank god he didn't get the opportunity to hire pat's successor. his defenders point to his fund raising success and the magnificent facilities. my response: if hamilton had built the roman coliseum, the lions would have starved to death.

fearthehound writes:

Adams, did it ever occur to your sorry Vol hating a** that when there's a pass thrown and the defender reaches out and grabs the receiver's jersey, that the receiver might have caught the ball otherwise? Why are you acting like Florida gave us all these gifts and we lost by 10 anyway? For every gift They gave us, we gave them one right back. We have a young team, and every prognosticator in the country chose Florida to win--and this was before we lost one of our best players. The guys made a lot of mistakes, under a very highly pressured situation and lost by 10 points--pretty close to the spread, right? I'm not saying I'm happy with the outcome, but this ain't the end of the world. We'll continue to grow and improve. Go Vols.

bigdisbig writes:

in response to Orangeblood13:

No one cares for your man crush on the gators
You keep living your fantasy from granny's basement
Trash

Well written and true. Some Vol fans can't see the truth. When top recruits see Saban, Spurrier, Les Miles and now Muschamp come to their house they see winners. When Dooley and his staff show up in a used car because the UT athletic dept. is so cheap they see losers. Fulmer and Hamilton drove this program into mediocrity and below. Its gonna take winning and strength to build it back up. Dooley's boys need to become men. They need a MAN COACH to teach them to be a man and not be afraid to take a hit. Stone is a sissy. He was so afraid of the mighty gator linemen he couldn't snap the ball correctly. The receivers were so afraid of getting hit they couldn't catch the ball. Poole and Martin ran like girls and to have a -9 yard rushing net proved they are not able to play with the Big Boys. Adams is right like it or not. Whether he enjoys UT losing to Fla. doesn't matter. You guys need to hear the truth. You guys who keep defending these losers probably have kids who are out of control and teacher's nightmares. I DO NOT accept anything less than winning. You guys can make excuses for these losers all you want. Hunter goes out and the game is over? That is bull phooey! Rainey and Delk are just faster than the Vols so they can't beat the gators? That is bull phooey! If we had a coach who knew how to put a game plan together and win we would be winners.

Send Dooley back to Saban and tell him to listen to a real coach.

uttom#467786 writes:

Who reads Adams. I skip over all Adams' articles. He is cold water on a hot date.

goob_21#356041 writes:

It makes me sick to see the Vols in the shape there in. I have tried to stay positive but after yesterday I can see there has been littile improvement. You can bet that Florida will get better. I guess I will have to get used to UT being a bottom feeder in the SEC. Maybe we can leave the SEC and find a conference we can be competitive in, maybe division II or something. So disgusted.

brokendownoldvol writes:

in response to mrkirker:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

I told someone the same thing during the game. The fundamentals on both sides of the ball were horrible. All lineman do now days is stand straight up and push on each other. You never see any clean hits anymore. I'm close to not watching college football anymore. I don't watch near as much as I did 20 yrs. ago. Most games on TV are unwatchable.

jhayes0926#638474 writes:

Not a bad article at all. We just don't have the players. Dooley still has not beaten a team as an underdog and our OL as well as Poole is totally overrated. We will not have an easy SEC game at all as the only sure wins will come against Buff. and Mid Tenn. With or without Hunter our best scenario is 7-6.

acknowledgment writes:

The Mike Shula Era has officially begun.

bbfn writes:

in response to Volstate:

Until we find a running back that can create chances our offense will get nowhere especially if Hunter is done for the season. Poole has no vision and can't see open areas to run to. He is very one dimensional. I hate to say it Vol fans but we are going to lose to Alabama, LSU, and probably South Carolina. We might beat Georgia because they are awful and we'll beat Vanderbilt and Kentucky. Oh one more thing...Palardy can't kick a field goal. This all sound familiar?

Don't count your chickens before they hatch.
UT will not be able to beat Georgia, and they may not get past Vandy. Vandy and Georgia will be on upswing, and UT on the downslide when they meet.

kjvols writes:

in response to djohnnyg:

The problem is this:

Florida has better players because they have a better recruiting program.

Florida has better coaching. They went out and hired the hottest candidate in the country. UT hired a guy from Louisiana Tech who didn't even have an impressive won loss record.

Florida will always have better players, better coaching and a better football program all around.

Florida is superior on all levels which is why year after year Florida will continue to administer its annual beatdown against the Vols.

The Vols have a lot of pride, great fans and tremendous support, but it's not enough to stop them from being Florida's, Alabama's, LSU's, and Auburn's patsy. Not to mention Georgia and South Carolina.

Be happy with beating Miss St., Vandy and Kentucky and get an occasional win against Ole Miss or the occasional upset cuz this program CANNOT compete with the big boys.

The UT kids out there are trying hard, bless their hearts, but this whole program is just plain overmatched- top to bottom and it's not changing anytime soon.

no bless your heart while you open the jiffy mart at 4 am

baldingalum writes:

I've defended Adams a lot over the years but he's off the mark on two counts.

1) One of the reasons Florida committed over 150 yards in penalties is because we have a future NFL quarterback throwing to future NFL wide receivers. Florida's secondary is not good. They're secondary committed penalties when they were beaten, out of position or both. This happened time and time again.

2) Tennessee is very young. Gary Danielson hit it on the head. Losing Hunter would be like Florida losing Harvin a couple years ago. You're on the road. You lose your playmaker 5 minutes into the game. That's tough for a young team to overcome. Tennessee didn't play well but they didn't get blown out. They fought back. That's something. Something worthy of mention.

Now as for Florida... They lost 5 games last year. Put me down for predicting 4 losses this year. They aren't what they once were. And finally, the greatest college football coaches don't act or handle themselves like Muschamp did at the end of the half with the officials. If Slive weren't a Florida lackey he'd fine Muschamp. But more importantly, Will's rant is telling. He's vulnerable. They're not the team to beat for they will be beaten.

steamboatticket#484773 writes:

in response to TommyJack:

Don't see much to argue with, Adams.

It's not a pretty picture, TJ.

Vol-in-GA writes:

I'm curious, who in truth thought Florida in the swamp was a win prior to the start of the season? This team was destined for 6-6 or 7-5. Simply by looking at the schedule, why do you think Buffalo replaced NC. Besides Vandy and Ky, it will be hard to find the SEC win to make it to 7-5 without a running game. I would love to see some upsets, but my optimism is on low right now.

CrankE writes:

"Bray threw two interceptions, and the Gators might have had four more if they had held on to the ball."

Oh, you want to play the "If" game in Florida's favor? Then I'll play it in UT's favor. If Florida wasn't hanging all over Tennessee's receivers, then perhaps they would be able to 1) Catch a few more passes 2) Break a couple of these for touchdowns. Florida's defensive strategy was to go for the ball and maul our receivers. Since there isn't any "repeat offender" rule that increases their penalty for 8 pass interference calls, I'd have to say that it worked out pretty well for them. Thugball at it's best.

If John Adams wasn't continually kneeling under Florida's desk, then perhaps GVX wouldn't be a Gatroll refuge.

Gatorguy writes:

in response to jone8191#247590:

Pardon me if I don't sprinkle this loss with pixie dust. Adams is spot on. This team has:
1. No pass rush.
2. No running game.
3. Weak kicking game.
4. Apparently no one on campus who can snap the ball.
5. Long afternoons ahead. Alabama, South Caroline, LSU and yes, Georgia are all better than Florida.
I have seen this before

Jone...too much orange kool-aid...How is Georgia and South Carolina better than Florida??...Is it their defenses... Geez...take the loss and move on.

snakeplissken writes:

I can't find fault with this article from Adams. Florida beat us worse than what the scoreboard showed. Looks like another 6-6 year with no team improvement shown in Dooley's second year. Sad.

tn_rockytop writes:

in response to steamboatticket#484773:

It's not a pretty picture, TJ.

i was wrong about you a long time back i appolgize too a fellow vol fan

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