John Adams: SEC should give West Virginia a shot

This might be the best college football season ever. You don't even have to wait until Saturday to see a Hail Mary pass.

Conference realignment has turned desperate. University officials have nightmares of their conference disintegrating before dawn and their school being left with nothing but a take-it-or-leave-it offer from Conference USA. They are responding accordingly.

There's enough suspense for two seasons. You have games on the weekend and mind games all week along. Rumors are flying faster than Oklahoma's offense.

The ACC is going after every school but Southern Cal. What might be left of the Big 12 and Big East are going after each other.

The Kansas City Star reported Tuesday that the SEC had invited Missouri of the Big 12 to join the conference. The SEC then issued a denial. There also was a disheartening report that West Virginia of the Big East had been turned down by both the SEC and ACC.

Since Virginia Tech of the ACC seems content being a football school in a basketball conference, West Virginia had become my favorite SEC candidate.

The Mountaineers are competitive in football and basketball and have a passionate fan base. They also have a mascot who's packing.

He wears a coonskin cap and totes a rifle. What's more SEC than that?

It gets better.

He doesn't just carry the rifle. He fires it.

No one briefed me on the firing aspect of the mascot's duties before I covered a basketball game in Morgantown. That left me unprepared for his pregame warning shot, which — aside from a Wimp Sanderson courtside tirade and Nolan Richardson's canary-yellow suit — is the scariest thing I've ever witnessed in a college basketball arena.

Missouri doesn't offer that kind of firepower.

Never mind that it would add many more television sets than West Virginia and give the SEC a football program that has averaged nine victories per season for the last six years. There are some obvious disadvantages to taking Missouri.

Texas A&M is already SEC bound. If you have any respect for geography, you would need to move Auburn to the East. Where would that leave one of the SEC's most prominent rivalries?

If Auburn would move eastward, Alabama surely would become its natural non-divisional opponent. And the annual Alabama-Tennessee game could become a casualty of expansion.

There's also the mascot issue to consider. Does the SEC really need a third team of Tigers?

I'm willing to compromise, though. My terms: Missouri dumps the tiger, give its new mascot a firearm and a coonskin cap, and dubs itself the Missouri Militia,

Otherwise, give West Virginia a shot.

John Adams is a senior columnist. He may be reached at 865-342-6284 or adamsj@knoxnews.com. Follow him at http://twitter.com/johnadamskns.

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shock_me74#256851 writes:

I don't know what all the fuss is about. Move Alabama and Auburn to the East, with Vandy going to the West. Problem solved. Sheesh.

tovolny writes:

John, take your medicine and go back to sleep.

The weather is nice in Louisiana this time of year. Why not take a 4 months vacation?

skyhawk836 writes:

Maybe they will be number 15 or 16. If not, then who?

voloffaith writes:

All rumors and hearsay for now as so many have to watch their steps and comments due to these stiff penalties and criteria for exiting their current conferences.

eprahm (Inactive) writes:

in response to tovolny:

John, take your medicine and go back to sleep.

The weather is nice in Louisiana this time of year. Why not take a 4 months vacation?

Why don't you quit reading Adams' articles if you can't be civil about it? Maybe a four month vacation from Go Vols would be appropriate for you.

Kelly8 writes:

The SEC should not expand for expansion's sake. A&M brings a lot to the conference. Tons of fans, big markets, tons of recruits, great facilities. WVU is a terrible school that is almost all the way to Pittsburgh, impossible to get to (I've done the drive, it's rough), and doesn't fit culturally with the rest of the league. But even as I'm typing this ESPN is saying Mizzou has been accepted, so I guess it's all moot!

asleep#212036 writes:

Yeah, the annual UT-Bama game becoming a series played in a rotation with 5 other schools? Not good. But if Mizzou joined our conference, that's what would definitely happen. No way can you put Vandy in the West and have an East side with Bama, Auburn, UT, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina. Ouch for everybody. Just not feeling the TV market/revenue from adding W. Virginia and after all, Slive is all about the money. We'll see but they'd better get on their horse and ride or they're gonna be left at the dance without a date. Go Vols!!!

beaus27 writes:

Mascots aside, we already have two Bulldogs,

....SEC for the 14th member, let's just end the search, here and now, correct a wrong: GT WELCOME BACK!!!

taylorsvolfan writes:

Hell no !

Rich_Is_Re-born writes:

What's funny is that Kelly and asleep are basically talking about something they know nothing about. WVU gives you the Pittsburgh market, and actually dips into a fair amount of Maryland. Morgantown is 68 miles from Pittsburgh and more WVU grads stay in the Pittsburgh area for work. Their fans are just like Tennessee fans. And they have a good tradition and REALLY competitive teams. If it's gonna come down to media markets, let's first boot Ole Miss, Miss St, South Carolina, and Arkansas. What's their value for their media market????? West Virginia split a home and home with Auburn a few years ago, swept Miss. State in a home and home, beat UGA in a BCS bowl, and MUTILATED Oklahoma in a BCS bowl. They lost IN BATON ROUGE by 6 without Noel Devine. Who when healthy was probably the best player in the Big East last yr. And with Bob Huggins at the helm in hoops, along with Oliver Luck as AD, they will be competitive. Missouri over West Virginia? Are you kidding me?

arkyvol writes:

even for john adams, this is an asinine column (and that bar is set pretty d-mned high).

wva adds zero to the conference, athletically, academically, or population wise. its sole claim to fame is that it automatically comes to mind when someone mentions appalachia. if this is all thats available, i say stop on an odd number.

rtrchatt writes:

Bama/UT series must not end!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

VolinCalif writes:

Go John Go.
I like this article and I sure like WV over Missouri. But if Kelly8 is correct it is all over.

WV_Vol writes:

Adding WVU is a mistake for both sides. They offer nothing to the SEC. No recruiting base, no TV market, no competition. They would be a legitimate 9 or 10 in the SEC, but they will run away with the Big East this year. I just laugh when I hear the homers up here talk about how they could compete in the SEC. They don't have a clue.
VT, Clemson, FSU, Missouri, and TCU are all better choices than WVU.

VolinCalif writes:

in response to beaus27:

Mascots aside, we already have two Bulldogs,

....SEC for the 14th member, let's just end the search, here and now, correct a wrong: GT WELCOME BACK!!!

B27 you must be old. The GT/Vols was big in it's day. I think it was the early 50's when the Engr's came to Kville and painted Ayers Hall door Yellow and Black. Some were caught before they could get away and a T was shaved into their hair. I for one was sorry to see them go. Just and old story you need to ask the Vol Historian about.

Prostar writes:

If for no other reason to add Missouri than a rivalry for Arkansas and with A&M coming to the West, add Missouri then move Alabama and Auburn to the East. I'd love to see Georgia have to play Alabama every year.

westknoxrepub writes:

If we stop at 14, then Missouri makes more sense. If we go to 16, I think West Virginia will get in, it's the 16th team that's the puzzler. Morgantown is more SEC than Big East, and they bring decent football and basketball programs. People who are saying we shouldn't expand just to expand, get real, it's adapt or die.

tdvol1989 writes:

Well John, I sort of agree. But, I would pick Missouri first. However, the SEC should not stop at 14 teams. We should go to 16. This whole SuperConference thing is only appealing with 4x4 Divisions. Two 7-Team Divisions would make it even harder to get to the post season. 14 Teams does nothing but create a bigger divide between the haves and have-nots. As sick as it sounds, I like the idea that it is possible for Vandy to win a Division. There is no room for Cinderella runs with 2x7 like you would have with a Final 4.

That said, if we add 1 team, we should add 4. West Virginia may only be the 3rd best option, but ... it IS the 3rd Best option. Go ahead and pick them up and look for #16. I like someone else in Texas or a Basketball school. TCU, Louisville, or the natural selection in Clemson.

WV_Vol writes:

in response to Rich_Is_Re-born:

What's funny is that Kelly and asleep are basically talking about something they know nothing about. WVU gives you the Pittsburgh market, and actually dips into a fair amount of Maryland. Morgantown is 68 miles from Pittsburgh and more WVU grads stay in the Pittsburgh area for work. Their fans are just like Tennessee fans. And they have a good tradition and REALLY competitive teams. If it's gonna come down to media markets, let's first boot Ole Miss, Miss St, South Carolina, and Arkansas. What's their value for their media market????? West Virginia split a home and home with Auburn a few years ago, swept Miss. State in a home and home, beat UGA in a BCS bowl, and MUTILATED Oklahoma in a BCS bowl. They lost IN BATON ROUGE by 6 without Noel Devine. Who when healthy was probably the best player in the Big East last yr. And with Bob Huggins at the helm in hoops, along with Oliver Luck as AD, they will be competitive. Missouri over West Virginia? Are you kidding me?

WVU does not control the Pittsburgh market. Penn State and Pitt control the Pittsburgh market. Plus, the area of Maryland that they "dip into" is western maryland (everything west of Frederick) which has no population and thus, no TV market. Yes, they did beat UGA in the worst year in the SEC in 20 years. And they also beat MSU, but they wouldn't be competitive week in and week out. Their basketball team would be top 3 in the SEC every year, but this is the SEC... who in the hell cares about basketball?!?!

Voluvr writes:

THIS IS SO EASY.... The west got one, now the east takes either FSU of Clemson. I prefer FSU to dilute Florida's recruiting for the kids that would go to UF instead of FSU to play in the SEC.

Missouri...NO. Not only are they not in the South....they're not even ole timey!

Here's the test...If you've ever made fun of southerners...you're out.

Let's keep it to Southern Schools and give FSU another chance to prove they aren't CHICKEN!

Rich_Is_Re-born writes:

in response to WV_Vol:

WVU does not control the Pittsburgh market. Penn State and Pitt control the Pittsburgh market. Plus, the area of Maryland that they "dip into" is western maryland (everything west of Frederick) which has no population and thus, no TV market. Yes, they did beat UGA in the worst year in the SEC in 20 years. And they also beat MSU, but they wouldn't be competitive week in and week out. Their basketball team would be top 3 in the SEC every year, but this is the SEC... who in the hell cares about basketball?!?!

So did I say they DOMINATE the Pittsburgh market? I think not. Funny, because I know there is a lot of WVU fans in the Pitt. area. It's 68 miles from Pittsburgh. There are TONS of WVU fans in Pittsburgh. Heck, Pittsburgh radio stations report on WVU. My step brother lives in Pittsburgh, trust me on this one. And it's funny how you say they beat UGA in the worst SEC season in 20 yrs, LOL. UH, OK. EVERYONE and their brother was saying UGA was gonna thrash them. You know it and I know it. Everyone and their brother said Oklahoma was gonna beat them, you know it and I know it. And you conveniently left out the Auburn win. So you also dodged my other question. If it comes to media market, why are the other slack a## programs in our conference. The Mississippi's, SC. They would compete, and compete well. No, they wouldn't go 11-2 every year. I told a friend of mine up there the other day, WVU fans will have to learn that an 8-4/9-3 season is REALLY good down here. What would Clemson bring to the table over WVU? Could you tell me genius?

ProfessionalHandicapper writes:

Add Louisville. A natural rivalry with kentucky, Charlie Strong and Pitino both former SEC standout coaches and a great basketball addition. WVU is Pitts rival and only 80 miles away. Louisville is within 5 hours or less drive for many SEC fans. Vandy, UT , KY , 3 hours or less drive time. Louisville is a much better choice than Missouri or WVU.

volfanfrom49 writes:

why not fla. state???

4114 writes:

As a former Mountaineer turned VOL I would love to see WVU in the SEC. However ANYTHING that stands in the way of the UT/bama sersies I can not support. WVU/UT..FSU/UT..Mizzou/UT...A&M/UT.... NO WAY IN HELL OVER UT/bama. The BEST rivialy in the SEC.

BillsBrother writes:

The University of Puerto Rico is about as southeastern as one can get in the U.S. Let's add them.

Kelly8 writes:

in response to Rich_Is_Re-born:

What's funny is that Kelly and asleep are basically talking about something they know nothing about. WVU gives you the Pittsburgh market, and actually dips into a fair amount of Maryland. Morgantown is 68 miles from Pittsburgh and more WVU grads stay in the Pittsburgh area for work. Their fans are just like Tennessee fans. And they have a good tradition and REALLY competitive teams. If it's gonna come down to media markets, let's first boot Ole Miss, Miss St, South Carolina, and Arkansas. What's their value for their media market????? West Virginia split a home and home with Auburn a few years ago, swept Miss. State in a home and home, beat UGA in a BCS bowl, and MUTILATED Oklahoma in a BCS bowl. They lost IN BATON ROUGE by 6 without Noel Devine. Who when healthy was probably the best player in the Big East last yr. And with Bob Huggins at the helm in hoops, along with Oliver Luck as AD, they will be competitive. Missouri over West Virginia? Are you kidding me?

Pittsburgh is an NFL town. They barely support the Pitt Panthers (who play in Heinz Field). Check out the NCAA attendance figures. So not only is it not a WVU town, it's not even a college football town. So you take the people that do care about the college game, siphon off the Penn State and Pitt fans, and you're saying there's a large amount of WVU fans left over? Enough to make the Mountaineers attractive to the SEC? Don't forget we're talking about a market not much bigger than Nashville, which is SHRINKING. Check the Census figures. But you're right, I'm the one that doesn't know what I'm talking about.

West Virginia has 1.8 million people...stated another way, it's a little bigger than Metro Nashville (and I'm using CSA figures since I'm ignorant ;) So assuming every single West Virginian cares about college football (they don't), and are all WVU fans (they're not), and the state is growing (it's not), WVU would actually add LESS interest, viewers, and revenue than the current bad apples of the SEC (which you mentioned)...Ole Miss and State.

Get some facts.

OldNumber7 writes:

in response to Rich_Is_Re-born:

What's funny is that Kelly and asleep are basically talking about something they know nothing about. WVU gives you the Pittsburgh market, and actually dips into a fair amount of Maryland. Morgantown is 68 miles from Pittsburgh and more WVU grads stay in the Pittsburgh area for work. Their fans are just like Tennessee fans. And they have a good tradition and REALLY competitive teams. If it's gonna come down to media markets, let's first boot Ole Miss, Miss St, South Carolina, and Arkansas. What's their value for their media market????? West Virginia split a home and home with Auburn a few years ago, swept Miss. State in a home and home, beat UGA in a BCS bowl, and MUTILATED Oklahoma in a BCS bowl. They lost IN BATON ROUGE by 6 without Noel Devine. Who when healthy was probably the best player in the Big East last yr. And with Bob Huggins at the helm in hoops, along with Oliver Luck as AD, they will be competitive. Missouri over West Virginia? Are you kidding me?

You are right on....Kelly and others have recto-cranial inversion on this one..so does the SEC. By capturing West Virginia, Western PA, Western Maryland you would seize a huge market. Now, the SEC could walk into Pittsburgh and tell one of the most talent rich football bases in America in Western PA that they need only drive 6 miles below the Mason Dixon line to play in the SEC (that's about an hour from the Burgh). This would be a coup..a no brainer. And the WVU fan following / tradition is there. Their stadium gets 70+k per week full and facilities are modern. And as for driving, it's a hell of a lot closer than College Station..and closer to Knoxville than Oxford, Baton Rouge, or Gainesville.

MGVOL22 writes:

in response to WV_Vol:

Adding WVU is a mistake for both sides. They offer nothing to the SEC. No recruiting base, no TV market, no competition. They would be a legitimate 9 or 10 in the SEC, but they will run away with the Big East this year. I just laugh when I hear the homers up here talk about how they could compete in the SEC. They don't have a clue.
VT, Clemson, FSU, Missouri, and TCU are all better choices than WVU.

When WVU takes down LSU then start talking....You obviously know nothing about football....They have the Pittsburgh TV market as well, plus every single TV in West Virginia will be glued to the games. As well as one of the most faithful fan bases around.

9 or 10 in the SEC...no sir, you put them in the East they will be fighting it out with Tennessee, Florida and Georgia for the top spot.

Timbo_Slice writes:

in response to Rich_Is_Re-born:

What's funny is that Kelly and asleep are basically talking about something they know nothing about. WVU gives you the Pittsburgh market, and actually dips into a fair amount of Maryland. Morgantown is 68 miles from Pittsburgh and more WVU grads stay in the Pittsburgh area for work. Their fans are just like Tennessee fans. And they have a good tradition and REALLY competitive teams. If it's gonna come down to media markets, let's first boot Ole Miss, Miss St, South Carolina, and Arkansas. What's their value for their media market????? West Virginia split a home and home with Auburn a few years ago, swept Miss. State in a home and home, beat UGA in a BCS bowl, and MUTILATED Oklahoma in a BCS bowl. They lost IN BATON ROUGE by 6 without Noel Devine. Who when healthy was probably the best player in the Big East last yr. And with Bob Huggins at the helm in hoops, along with Oliver Luck as AD, they will be competitive. Missouri over West Virginia? Are you kidding me?

Great educated post. I've been to many games in Morgantown and they have a great fan base and games are exciting from pre-game to post-game!

Timbo_Slice writes:

All you have to do is watch College Game Day this Saturday and you will see that WV would make a great fit in the SEC East. They would be battling for a spot in Atlanta this year!

hcjournals#206623 writes:

You've got to be kidding.....

westknoxrepub writes:

Florida State won't come and even if they wanted to Florida would veto it. It's already been reported that the SEC wanted Louisville and Kentucky vetoed that. Georgia Tech doesn't bring you anything, except what's left of the Atlanta TV Market that doesn't already belong to Georgia. Clemson, year in and year out, brings you very little. Missouri at least brings you an untapped TV market and Missouri was in the confederacy, so it is at least somewhat Southern. I think Missouri will opt to stay in the Big 12 (9?) though, and I don't like the idea of 13 teams (although the MAC's done it for a couple of years) so perhaps we should reconsider West Virginia.

jdcdjc writes:

Personally, I would love to see Ga Tech back in the SEC. They would already be here except for the LSU athletic director at the time voting against them when they wanted to come back.

By the way, three schools left the SEC, there was Ga Tech, Tulane, and I cannot come up with the third, can someone help me?

Jakevol writes:

John you might need to take a drug test, WVU?

westknoxrepub writes:

in response to jdcdjc:

Personally, I would love to see Ga Tech back in the SEC. They would already be here except for the LSU athletic director at the time voting against them when they wanted to come back.

By the way, three schools left the SEC, there was Ga Tech, Tulane, and I cannot come up with the third, can someone help me?

Sewanee.

westknoxrepub writes:

I don't get the Georgia Tech love. They have a sub-par football program, and a sub-par basketball program. Georgia already controls a good chunk of the Atlanta TV market. What does Georgia Tech add?

WV_Vol writes:

in response to MGVOL22:

When WVU takes down LSU then start talking....You obviously know nothing about football....They have the Pittsburgh TV market as well, plus every single TV in West Virginia will be glued to the games. As well as one of the most faithful fan bases around.

9 or 10 in the SEC...no sir, you put them in the East they will be fighting it out with Tennessee, Florida and Georgia for the top spot.

Yeah, I was thinking they were going to beat LSU after that great performance against that perennial football powerhouse known as Norfolk State. Then, when they squeaked one out against mighty Maryland I knew it for sure. Once again, they DO NOT have the Pittsburgh market. I know "it's 68 miles from Pittsburgh" and "they report on WVU games in Pittsburgh." That's like saying UT has the Atlanta market. Just as many UT grads live and work in Atlanta. Every single TV in WV will be glued to the games? News flash... there are 1.8 million people and many are not college football fans. Are you also forgetting the southern part of WV? Just as many Marshall fans as WVU in that part of the state. Western Maryland? Western Maryland, which is everything west of Frederick is largely unpopulated. There is that sprawling metropolis of Cumberland (pop. 20,449 which is down 5%). I'll be the first to admit they have a great fan base. I was there when they burned couches on Grant Street, I was there when Tremaine Mack blocked the punt that lead to Larry Coker getting hit in the head with the trash can. I was there for the first WVU/Marshall game with Randy Moss. I know all about WVU and the football program. I'm just saying that there are programs that offer more to the SEC than WVU.

MGVOL22 writes:

in response to WV_Vol:

Yeah, I was thinking they were going to beat LSU after that great performance against that perennial football powerhouse known as Norfolk State. Then, when they squeaked one out against mighty Maryland I knew it for sure. Once again, they DO NOT have the Pittsburgh market. I know "it's 68 miles from Pittsburgh" and "they report on WVU games in Pittsburgh." That's like saying UT has the Atlanta market. Just as many UT grads live and work in Atlanta. Every single TV in WV will be glued to the games? News flash... there are 1.8 million people and many are not college football fans. Are you also forgetting the southern part of WV? Just as many Marshall fans as WVU in that part of the state. Western Maryland? Western Maryland, which is everything west of Frederick is largely unpopulated. There is that sprawling metropolis of Cumberland (pop. 20,449 which is down 5%). I'll be the first to admit they have a great fan base. I was there when they burned couches on Grant Street, I was there when Tremaine Mack blocked the punt that lead to Larry Coker getting hit in the head with the trash can. I was there for the first WVU/Marshall game with Randy Moss. I know all about WVU and the football program. I'm just saying that there are programs that offer more to the SEC than WVU.

Wow, they started slow against Norfolk State with a new offense being put in. Did you watch the game against LSU last year when they lost by 6? You will see....they will beat LSU in Morgantown this weekend. Also, yes Marshall is in WV, but only Marshall fans live in Huntington, WVU owns the state. WVU has one of the largest football followings and I am willing to bet that their fans travel better than 70% of schools across the country.

I grew up in WV and have a Grad degree from WVU so I know WVU very well....so you can save me the Tremaine Mack stuff and WVU/Marshall.

You put WVU in the SEC it opens up recruiting in Western PA/MD....plus adds a solid team for football and dominate for basketball.

stumpyb writes:

Just take Texas and Texas A&M

WV_Vol writes:

in response to Rich_Is_Re-born:

So did I say they DOMINATE the Pittsburgh market? I think not. Funny, because I know there is a lot of WVU fans in the Pitt. area. It's 68 miles from Pittsburgh. There are TONS of WVU fans in Pittsburgh. Heck, Pittsburgh radio stations report on WVU. My step brother lives in Pittsburgh, trust me on this one. And it's funny how you say they beat UGA in the worst SEC season in 20 yrs, LOL. UH, OK. EVERYONE and their brother was saying UGA was gonna thrash them. You know it and I know it. Everyone and their brother said Oklahoma was gonna beat them, you know it and I know it. And you conveniently left out the Auburn win. So you also dodged my other question. If it comes to media market, why are the other slack a## programs in our conference. The Mississippi's, SC. They would compete, and compete well. No, they wouldn't go 11-2 every year. I told a friend of mine up there the other day, WVU fans will have to learn that an 8-4/9-3 season is REALLY good down here. What would Clemson bring to the table over WVU? Could you tell me genius?

Well, Clemson adds rivalry to the conference. WVU's rivals are Pitt and Marshall. Clemson plays SC and people would be much more intense about Clemson/UT, Clemson/UGA, Clemson/anyone versus WVU against those teams. Missouri and VT add large television markets. VT also adds a solid recruiting base (Tidewater area and DC). FSU is self-explanatory. I wasn't picking on your post, I'm just saying I disagree. I don't think it's in the best interest of the SEC or WVU to move. Why would WVU move to a conference where they will only be competitive once every four years as opposed to a conference where they can be top 3 or 4 every year? I'm also not disagreeing that they have a great fan base. Anyone who has been to a WVU game knows they have a great fan base.

tovolny writes:

in response to eprahm:

Why don't you quit reading Adams' articles if you can't be civil about it? Maybe a four month vacation from Go Vols would be appropriate for you.

eprahm, congratulations, you finally made a post without your mother's help.

WV_Vol writes:

in response to MGVOL22:

Wow, they started slow against Norfolk State with a new offense being put in. Did you watch the game against LSU last year when they lost by 6? You will see....they will beat LSU in Morgantown this weekend. Also, yes Marshall is in WV, but only Marshall fans live in Huntington, WVU owns the state. WVU has one of the largest football followings and I am willing to bet that their fans travel better than 70% of schools across the country.

I grew up in WV and have a Grad degree from WVU so I know WVU very well....so you can save me the Tremaine Mack stuff and WVU/Marshall.

You put WVU in the SEC it opens up recruiting in Western PA/MD....plus adds a solid team for football and dominate for basketball.

They will beat LSU, huh? Haha, we will see...
Anyway, glad you grew up in WV and have a grad degree from WVU. Did I mention that I got my MBA from WVU? Still don't think they can beat LSU. UT also played LSU tough last year, but this isn't even close to the same LSU team as last year. WVU started slow against Norfolk State, but they made up for it by falling down late against MD? Sorry, but I don't think this is their year...

rbhobbs73#226545 writes:

A few points if I may...

1) Missouri was not in the Confederacy, they were a border state (like Kentucky).
2) I agree that WVU is very SEC-like with its athletic programs and facilities, but expansion is 98% about TV sets. THe other 2% is academics (yes I said it. The SEC is conscious of its image nationally on this issue) and WVU is rated lower than ALL current SEC institutions.
3) Louisville is ranked even worse than WVU in academics, and it is widely known that the SEC is not interested in schools that reside within states that include a member institution (i.e. Clemson, GT and FSU) unless it is Texas.
4) Missouri brings TV sets (STL and KC are both Top 30 markets), good academics and competitive athletics.

This why SEC is not choosing WVU.

Once dust settles and Big 12 finally implodes, look for SEC to make run at NC State and Virginia Tech....for all of the reasons above.

VolinCalif writes:

in response to jdcdjc:

Personally, I would love to see Ga Tech back in the SEC. They would already be here except for the LSU athletic director at the time voting against them when they wanted to come back.

By the way, three schools left the SEC, there was Ga Tech, Tulane, and I cannot come up with the third, can someone help me?

Southern U Or something like that

VolinCalif writes:

in response to westknoxrepub:

Sewanee.

Yes you are correct but wasn't it also known as the school of the south or southern don't remember for sure

eprahm (Inactive) writes:

in response to tovolny:

eprahm, congratulations, you finally made a post without your mother's help.

How many published articles have you written? At last count I was somewhere around 80 (motorcycle magazine). People like you don't have a clue.

clvolfan writes:

Leave WVA where they are.The northeastern media already has the SEC as thugs,and we don't need another addition to that.

givehim6 writes:

I know I'v asked this question before but I hear lots of talk about we should add VT, FLST, or Clemson, GT, have any ACC team shown interest in comeing to the SEC? Why would any team leave a already expanding ACC? The Big 12 and Big East are dissolving A&M is comming. There needs to be a team added to the east. I like the idea of WVA it has a TV market plus a good fan bass. When my in-laws still lived in Ohio WVA played on TV now they live in KY, they are still on TV on some channles. We have two bulldogs in the SEC, two Tigers, why not two mountainmen?

rbwusa writes:

in response to tovolny:

John, take your medicine and go back to sleep.

The weather is nice in Louisiana this time of year. Why not take a 4 months vacation?

LOL thanks for the laugh I needed that. Hey I just want the SEC to relax and get us some Killer schools you know those that would fit the SEC Texas A&M was a Great Choice I think Florida State would be Great too but probably isn't even considered. How bout Oka and Texas. What a scoop that would be for the SEC but it's obvious that the Big 12 is gonna be our rival in the future so get em while you can. This type of change is Fun!

CrankE writes:

If Adams wants to give WVA a "shot", then perhaps the mountaineer would return fire in his direction. Good for the goose... FIRE at JOHN ADAMS!!!

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