Discipline still a point of contention for Derek Dooley

UT linebackers Herman Lathers, left, and A.J. Johnson line up for a drill before the start of a scrimmage at Neyland Stadium on Saturday, April 14, 2012. (AMY SMOTHERMAN BURGESS/NEWS SENTINEL)

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UT linebackers Herman Lathers, left, and A.J. Johnson line up for a drill before the start of a scrimmage at Neyland Stadium on Saturday, April 14, 2012. (AMY SMOTHERMAN BURGESS/NEWS SENTINEL)

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UT defensive back Brian Randolph catches a pass before the start of a scrimmage at Neyland Stadium on Saturday.

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AMY SMOTHERMAN BURGESS/NEWS SENTINEL UT defensive back Brian Randolph catches a pass before the start of a scrimmage at Neyland Stadium on Saturday.

UT linebackers John Propst, left, and Gregory Grieco go through a drill before the Vols' scrimmage Saturday at Neyland Stadium.

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UT linebackers John Propst, left, and Gregory Grieco go through a drill before the Vols' scrimmage Saturday at Neyland Stadium.

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UT tailback Marlin Lane, left, goes through a drill before the start of a scrimmage at Neyland Stadium on Saturday.

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Photos by AMY SMOTHERMAN BURGESS/NEWS SENTINEL UT tailback Marlin Lane, left, goes through a drill before the start of a scrimmage at Neyland Stadium on Saturday.

Derek Dooley on the Vols' second scrimmage

The accuracy was improved in the passing game.

A handful of defenders again showed up and created some big plays.

The rushing attack was steady and offered more evidence of progress after the troubles of last season.

Derek Dooley was quick to point out those positives from the second scrimmage for Tennessee on Saturday at Neyland Stadium. But they weren’t the things that really seemed to stick in the mind of the Vols coach as he left the field and began preparing for the final week of spring camp.

“The biggest thing that is kind of holding us back right now is, No. 1, our level of discipline on the simple things,” Dooley said. “Discipline on the simple things, lot of penalties, we made too many mistakes that are really simple things. The second one is our attitude just when the flow of the game begins to happen and how we get affected by things that shouldn’t affect us — whether it’s a big play or (a guy) is tired or didn’t get a call or maybe one guy is jawing a little bit. Those are the things right now that are anchoring us that we’ve got really to work on.

“But I’m pleased with the effort, I’m pleased with the toughness.”

That certainly wasn’t all the Vols had to feel good about after the last significant live workout before they wrap up spring next week with the annual Orange and White Game.

Junior quarterback Tyler Bray bounced back from a rough first outing by completing 13 of 23 passing attempts for 180 yards with an interception and a touchdown. And he clearly benefitted from the return of receiver Justin Hunter, who made the most of his appearance in a red, non-contact jersey with a 50-yard score from Bray.

Defensively, Brian Randolph forced another turnover at safety, Herman Lathers continued his recovery with five tackles and Steven Fowlkes chipped in another sack.

And while those are all encouraging signs for Dooley, they weren’t the ones he was focusing on shortly after the afternoon ended.

“We’re still running the ball better, and there’s a lot of good things happening,” Dooley said. “But in order for us to be a good football team, our level of discipline and our mental outlook when things go a little cockeyed out there has to get better.”

Better Bray: Having one of his favorite targets backed obviously supplied a boost for Tyler Bray.

But the return of Hunter wasn’t enough by itself to help the Vols quarterback make up for a rough first scrimmage that prompted a week of stressing fundamentals from coaches in practice.

The message seemed to have been delivered, and Bray’s accuracy was noticeably improved according to the statistics provided by the program from the closed workout.

“Just going through the progressions, last scrimmage I was a little sloppy with the progressions,” Bray said. “This week I kind of picked it up, and the line blocked great and the receivers caught the ball.”

Bumps and bruises: Dooley reported no injuries of significance during his post-scrimmage media briefing, though Byron Moore might have left with a minor physical issue.

Dooley indicated that the junior safety might have suffered an ankle injury but that he “didn’t think it was too serious.”

Austin Ward covers Tennessee football. Follow him at http://twitter.com/Vols_Beat and http://blogs.knoxnews.com/ward.

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slb#1351874 writes:

in response to BodeaneVol:

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Butt out numb n--s.

FEARinSEC writes:

If this spring game could count as a L in the regular season, the Vols might muster enough losses to get to where Flarduh will be under Muschump! (I'm just glad I don't have to watch our coach act like a baby throwing fits on the sidelines, ala Muschump)

Tennpeach writes:

in response to BodeaneVol:

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All I can say (that will be printed)is why do so many of you supposedly Vol fans have to be so negative on what is a Vol fan website? Why don't you just go to a Vandy or Bama or KY site and quit making true Vols fans so miserable!

lemme_axya_this writes:

in response to BodeaneVol:

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Slow day there in Little Havanna?

orangecountyvols writes:

in response to Tennpeach:

All I can say (that will be printed)is why do so many of you supposedly Vol fans have to be so negative on what is a Vol fan website? Why don't you just go to a Vandy or Bama or KY site and quit making true Vols fans so miserable!

Tennpeach,

Hey friend, just so you know, this guy Bodeane is not a Vol fan. He's first of all.......a troll. Next, he's a copy cat..........there is originally a Vol fan named Bodean. So, this kid........and he is a juvenile.......just comes on here to copy someone else's name, stir things up, and look silly. If you see someone sticking Vol after their name, don't assume they are for Tennessee. In this case.........just a troll......and a kid.

We do have legitimate fans and I appreciate your being one of them.

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to BodeaneVol:

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What will be the excuse when UT kicks FU's arse this year?? I'll go ahead and lay the ground work for ewe..#1. We don't have a Pro-Style QB, Whaaaaa! #2. We lost our best defender to injury, Whaaaaa! #3. Muskrat was a plant by UGA, Whaaaaa! And the main excuse UT beat FU was due to "we don't care about that game anymore", Whaaaaa! PS: UT just beat FU in baseball, Bwahaha!

gerwmor writes:

So hard to tell without being on the practice field, but it sounds to me like this is a team that needs the kind of discipline that coaches cannot build, but that mature players and team leaders can. The 2010 had that from a few players such as Nick Reviez. Last year's team really did not have anyone who had what it takes to fill that slot. Not sure about this year's team at this point, but if three or four players can step up and demand that their teammates man-up, it will make a big difference in how the season goes.

AllVol1 writes:

in response to gerwmor:

So hard to tell without being on the practice field, but it sounds to me like this is a team that needs the kind of discipline that coaches cannot build, but that mature players and team leaders can. The 2010 had that from a few players such as Nick Reviez. Last year's team really did not have anyone who had what it takes to fill that slot. Not sure about this year's team at this point, but if three or four players can step up and demand that their teammates man-up, it will make a big difference in how the season goes.

I am hearing a lot of the defense refer to Lathers and what all he has done to help them. I think as he comes along in his physical recovery, his presence can grow into the leader that the others seem to see him as. And having the others acknowledge the "leadership" is the most important element, one that is earned over time. Where I am concerned is on the offensive side of the ball. I hear CDD give Bray some lip service, but I still wonder if Bray is the leader that the offense needs.

TNORANGEDOGDAD writes:

in response to BodeaneVol:

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Idiot Florida Fan!

Vol43 writes:

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Very keen insight 'e' Actually that was by far one of the most poignant comments you've made to date, and I'd also like to complement you on your choice of words: very consise and straight to the point, so I would like to get to the point, as it were, suck it.

AllVol1 writes:

13 of 23 for 180 with a TD and a pick isn't exactly lighting it up. I know that we are focusing on improving the running game, but 23 is a good number of tosses.

I really hope this means our DB's are vastly improved AND that we are putting lot's of pressure on the QB.

Clarkrm0706 writes:

in response to Vol43:

Very keen insight 'e' Actually that was by far one of the most poignant comments you've made to date, and I'd also like to complement you on your choice of words: very consise and straight to the point, so I would like to get to the point, as it were, suck it.

(My immature side) Tehehe, that was funny "dude".
I second that "suck it".
Now it's official.

UT4prez writes:

Since the article isn't up yet, congrats tithe baseball team. I don't watch much college baseball but good win over a good team. Nice dp to end it! I loved the back to back bunt hits to plate 2 as well. You just don't see that every day.

Clarkrm0706 writes:

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I have often doubted Dooleys' future. However, through new eyes, I wonder why he is worthy of troll hatred?
You may be a true pathetic, slamming every team in your free time. Sad but they do exist. (you probably are one, if so, sorry about your moms new boyfriend). Others however, seem truly worried. I don't understand this, given our recent decline, but I also realize that devoting so much of ones time by a troll, indicates a true concern. Interesting.

Vol43 writes:

in response to Clarkrm0706:

(My immature side) Tehehe, that was funny "dude".
I second that "suck it".
Now it's official.

I calls 'em like I see's 'em. lol GO BIG ORANGE!

Vol43 writes:

in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE:

What will be the excuse when UT kicks FU's arse this year?? I'll go ahead and lay the ground work for ewe..#1. We don't have a Pro-Style QB, Whaaaaa! #2. We lost our best defender to injury, Whaaaaa! #3. Muskrat was a plant by UGA, Whaaaaa! And the main excuse UT beat FU was due to "we don't care about that game anymore", Whaaaaa! PS: UT just beat FU in baseball, Bwahaha!

How's it going HB? You are the man.

born2ride writes:

Da-Rick needs discipline but Da-Dooley is too weak to do it.

UT4prez writes:

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Yes your baseball team is better this year. We're getting better though and it is big for us to beat the #4 team. The Gators won the first game but they are supposed to beat us lowly Vols.

20 out of 26 huh? Good run. The way I see it you guys aren't very good though. Certainly not good enough to run around talking trash. The winner of UT-UF will be decent. The loser will struggle to get to a bowl game. Even you have to know we're due.

volpreacher writes:

in response to AllVol1:

13 of 23 for 180 with a TD and a pick isn't exactly lighting it up. I know that we are focusing on improving the running game, but 23 is a good number of tosses.

I really hope this means our DB's are vastly improved AND that we are putting lot's of pressure on the QB.

I don't know how many of you are old enough but I remember when Peyton was here and in the scrimmages in spring he wouldn't put up very good numbers and I wondered to myself, has he lost it? Has he gotten worse. I don't think we can read much into any of the numbers, really good or really bad. After all everyone out there knows the other side's plays. I just say let's look at the fundamentals part and the effort part. I think a really good year is on the horizon. Go Vols!

Clarkrm0706 writes:

in response to born2ride:

Da-Rick needs discipline but Da-Dooley is too weak to do it.

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Vol43 writes:

in response to born2ride:

Da-Rick needs discipline but Da-Dooley is too weak to do it.

Hey born 2, glad you're here. I have a friend you may want to meet. He goes by the name of 'toddy'. I think you two could really hit if off. Hit me up bro and I can arrange that. Time of your life.

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to Vol43:

How's it going HB? You are the man.

Same ol things, lol..Just letting lil zz know he ain't about shirt around these parts.

Vol43 writes:

in response to Won_and_Done:

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scoon

Clarkrm0706 writes:

in response to Won_and_Done:

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I know, my defense?, some are soooo ignorant, they deserve it?

UT4prez writes:

in response to Won_and_Done:

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I'm around. I jump on and off. What's up Scooner?

Clarkrm0706 writes:

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" who won the opening game", "ut and UF have played 26 times since 1975. " .....etc...
AS long as you follow my selective reasoning, I make sense.
Unfortunately, there is the "total" record for both. Sucks to be you ;)

Vol43 writes:

in response to Won_and_Done:

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It's all good. Just trying to fend off the idiots. Whoa, that could be me! I know you're here and it's good to see you scoon. Behave yourself and you may live to tell about. Does Kentucky play anything besides baseball?

UT4prez writes:

in response to Salma_Hayek_is_my_Wife:

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I don't recall UF being this unproven at skill positions since Spurrier started there. They might not score 33 all year.

Clarkrm0706 writes:

in response to Won_and_Done:

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Not always "missing", sometimes have just enough time to read and not respond. Doesn't mean I don't hear Confucius, just means I can't reply! LOL

Clarkrm0706 writes:

in response to Won_and_Done:

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They claimed Selma was their wife and kissed their jort wearing sisters?

Vol43 writes:

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Noted

FearTheVols1252 writes:

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Perhaps, but if I were you, I wouldn't stray far from Muschump come game time. He'll certainly need someone nearby to change his orange and blue diapers and feed him his passy when he throws his little tantrums on the sideline.

Snapshot writes:

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Glad to see you keep such a close watch on this site. Sorry you were four minutes late and didn't get to post first. Had to be a big disappointment for you!

It must really pain you to have to type Vol in your screen name.
Get a life dude, and stop being such a dumbarse.

Vol43 writes:

in response to Won_and_Done:

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No, but we're really good in badmitton.

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to Won_and_Done:

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I know that the mildcats are going to get the beating of a lifetime @ Neyland this year..I will be sad at the firing of Joker Phillips, simply because UK might luck out and hire a real coach next time..GBO!!!

iowavol writes:

Jesus Christ, Mary and St Joseph, half the comments on this thread are a reaction to the dumb-a. Seriously?

Remember when we used to get real dialogue? Becoming just a memory with no place to stay.

On the other hand, looks like the team is progressing with a little depth behind the starters. Sure wish Bray was posting better numbers or at least we were getting details why so many incompletions.

FearTheVols1252 writes:

in response to iowavol:

Jesus Christ, Mary and St Joseph, half the comments on this thread are a reaction to the dumb-a. Seriously?

Remember when we used to get real dialogue? Becoming just a memory with no place to stay.

On the other hand, looks like the team is progressing with a little depth behind the starters. Sure wish Bray was posting better numbers or at least we were getting details why so many incompletions.

Bray has never been a great practice player... I wouldn't worry too much about it

UT4prez writes:

in response to iowavol:

Jesus Christ, Mary and St Joseph, half the comments on this thread are a reaction to the dumb-a. Seriously?

Remember when we used to get real dialogue? Becoming just a memory with no place to stay.

On the other hand, looks like the team is progressing with a little depth behind the starters. Sure wish Bray was posting better numbers or at least we were getting details why so many incompletions.

Not much to say about spring practice. The numbers mean little and the things we hope to see can't be seen. We all want leadership to develop and team chemistry to be good. We can't get that from the article unfortunately.

GerryOP writes:

in response to FearTheVols1252:

Bray has never been a great practice player... I wouldn't worry too much about it

You're right Fear, some guys are good practice players, other guys not so much. It always amazes with the shallowness of some of these dorks on here who go ballistic about a scrimmage, when there are 140 days until kickoff of the 1st game that counts.

Things are looking up for our footVols. We have some depth, some experience, and some guys who have been around long enough to provide leadership. Should be an interesting year. Nothign to worry about yet.

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to FearTheVols1252:

Bray has never been a great practice player... I wouldn't worry too much about it

Consider also that UT's defensive alignment may be confusing him..CSS has a multiple set of fronts to throw at TB and he has a few weeks of trying to figure them out..No worries from this Vol..GBO!

Vol43 writes:

in response to UT4prez:

Not much to say about spring practice. The numbers mean little and the things we hope to see can't be seen. We all want leadership to develop and team chemistry to be good. We can't get that from the article unfortunately.

That's right prez. It's the beginning of the doldrums and we can only speculate and hope. Well, we have some linebackers. Lathers, Maggitt, Johnson and one other to complete the 4. I hope our 'D' is up to the challenge. I do believe the offense will be improved and we should soundly defeat the wolfpack and the...uh...that team from stanky fl.

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to Won_and_Done:

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Of course I'm right, Tucky buddy..I can't even remember the last time I was mistaken..Just a distant memory..

GerryOP writes:

in response to UT4prez:

Not much to say about spring practice. The numbers mean little and the things we hope to see can't be seen. We all want leadership to develop and team chemistry to be good. We can't get that from the article unfortunately.

Hey prez, you're right. It is what it is ... practice. Of course, our so called fans who only see the glass as half full, they are lucky that they have a glass.

Look at it this way. We've seen the past two years how bad it can be ... and it's been bad. But we're on our way back up. Our Gata "friends" are just starting their downward spiral and UK ... well, they've always been down. We made their day last year when they improved their record against us from 26-0 to 26-1! I guess for UK football fans, any improvement is, well, an improvement.

In the words of the honorable PDHuff, a true legend on this site, we're in the doldrums ... extreme doldrums. 140 days...

Vol43 writes:

in response to Won_and_Done:

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I'm just glad to know you both. And as Walter Cronkite would say: and that's the way it is.

GerryOP writes:

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No sure where you're going there guy, but, except for you pesky 'lopers who get your jollies off by tantalizing the psuedoVols, "we" be all Vols on here.

"...taped rerun..." of what? I got NASCAR on my TV. Is Kevin Grevey on your "taped rerun?" Kevin Grevey, the last great whiteguy to play for UK! Probably before your time.

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to Won_and_Done:

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You fella's will get us in basketball I'm afraid..I guess the rich do get richer..lol

GerryOP writes:

in response to Won_and_Done:

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That's OK, we're tolerant on here...

smyrnavol1 writes:

WD, can you decipher this thread for me? Been away for awhile.

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to GerryOP:

No sure where you're going there guy, but, except for you pesky 'lopers who get your jollies off by tantalizing the psuedoVols, "we" be all Vols on here.

"...taped rerun..." of what? I got NASCAR on my TV. Is Kevin Grevey on your "taped rerun?" Kevin Grevey, the last great whiteguy to play for UK! Probably before your time.

I enjoyed my Cards/vols beating the cubbies/gators, now I'm enjoying the blues/sharks playoff game..Nothing replaces the football fix though..GBO!!

Vol43 writes:

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Ah Ha! Yes, it's beginning to make sense my dear Watson. Yes, indeed.

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