Mike Strange: Lane Kiffin has moved beyond 'rookie mistakes' at Tennessee

Mike Strange
USC head coach Lane Kiffin and Matt Barkley (7) talk during the second half of an NCAA college football game against Colorado in Boulder, Colo., Friday, Nov. 4, 2011. (AP Photo/Jack Dempsey)

USC head coach Lane Kiffin and Matt Barkley (7) talk during the second half of an NCAA college football game against Colorado in Boulder, Colo., Friday, Nov. 4, 2011. (AP Photo/Jack Dempsey)

If you don't want to read about Lane Kiffin, go ahead and turn the page. I get it.

Here are several replies from my Twitter feed after Kiffin took time out from assembling a national championship contender Tuesday morning to appear on The Sports Page radio show:

"Why are we even discussing that guy? No UT fan, writer on anyone should ever discuss him."

And:

"I'm so glad Tennessee could be Kiffin's 'farm team' to work out his issues.''

And:

"Kiffin is a no-good, underhanded, sorry excuse ..." well, it goes downhill from there.

And:

"He's gone. Who cares? Let's move on.''

He is gone, as of Jan. 12, 2010, to the University of Southern California. Tennessee has moved on, to an 11-14 record in the wake of his turbulent exit.

As the 2012 season approaches things are looking up for both Kiffin and the team he left behind. One, however, more than the other.

Tennessee fans understandably feel betrayed by Kiffin bolting after the 2009 season, his only one in Knoxville. The fallout has been well documented.

A reasonable person accepts that Kiffin could hardly say no to his dream job — one to which he had strong ties — when it unexpectedly fell in his lap.

But passion trumps reason when it comes to SEC football.

"I didn't see myself leaving here for any other job,'' Kiffin said Tuesday. "It was a very unique circumstance.

"Otherwise we'd still be there, if you'd have us. We'd still be there and we'd be doing some great things.''

And maybe be on NCAA probation, some cynics would add.

I asked Kiffin what his 14 months at UT meant in his evolution as a head coach.

This was, after all, his first college head job. He's still, at 37, the fourth-youngest head coach at a FBS school.

"I know I made a lot of rookie mistakes,'' he said. "As I look back, I'd try not to make those again and again and find a better way to do things each time.''

No matter what you think of Kiffin as a person, the guy is rock solid as a football coach. I thought that when he was at UT and what he's done at USC under the circumstances borders on astounding.

"I'm not sure astounding really covers it,'' Los Angeles Times columnist T.J. Simers wrote this week.

Taking over a program hit with a two-year bowl ban, scholarship reductions and a free pass for upperclassmen to transfer — which Malik Jackson did, to UT — Kiffin went 8-5 his first year. In 2011, USC was 10-2 and finished No. 6 in the AP poll.

For 2012, the Trojans are No. 3 in the preseason coaches' poll and — eligible again — are the team considered most capable of nipping the SEC's title streak in the bud.

Rampant 21st Century success enhanced a quick recovery, as did a fertile recruiting base.

Southern Cal is No. 1 in the 2013 recruiting rankings. Commitments include the state of Tennessee's top prospect, Jalen Ramsey, and Louisville, Ky., lineman Jason Hatcher (the one who said he didn't pick UT because it lost to Kentucky last November).

The lead recruiter on both was Tee Martin, the ring-wearing ex-Vol quarterback whom Kiffin hired last winter.

"We had heard great things about (Martin) and we had a great interview process,'' Kiffin said, "but he's exceeded even our expectations.''

What Kiffin has accomplished at Southern Cal in 31 months has exceeded anyone's expectations.

The chaos he left behind lowered Tennessee's expectations. Only now are they rising again.

Everybody's moving on. Some faster than others.

Mike Strange may be reached at strangem@knoxnews.com. Follow him at http://twitter.com/strangemike44 and http://blogs.knoxnews.com/strange.

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aj_vol#248433 writes:

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keepitreal4vols writes:

Mike-you got a man crush on Kiffin. 1st you blast his voice over Knoxville radio and give him free publicity. Then you write an article to tell us again what he said.
Stop jamming this guy down our throat, Why don't you and Vince get a 3 night cabin in the Smokies with Kiffin and talk all you want.

BMSvol writes:

i felt ut should hire Tee before sc ever thought about him. oh well it is what it is now.

as for lane,he will never have any respect in the state of tennessee, no matter how much he panders his flowery compliments to our local media.

i for one am glad hes gone...he got completly outcoached his short tenure in the sec.....(look at the game footage anyone who doesnt remember this).

and as for everyone being "astounded" by his coaching greatness,U could make a chimpanzee head coach at usc and get a winning season with their recruits.

All this being said, i still harbor a dream that we get to play socal in a major bowl.

talk about getting up for a game!

JWilly writes:

Let's see what LK can do now that it means something. College football history is littered with teams that were great when it was meaningless but less than stellar when it actually counted. I ain't holding my breath on this one.

TheVolMan writes:

Hey posters,
You can remove all uncertainty of your stupidity if you need to hammer Kiffin or Strange. Kiffin's Tennessee team was the best coached since the Dickey era. The Bama game is one shining example. Same goes for the Crompton and Hardesty turnarounds. Oh yeah, there weren't too many penalties, huh? His team was woefully short on depth and he and the staff made the most of what they had. And just know that Mike Strange is simply telling it like it is. Remember that he is the writer--he actually gets paid for his thoughts and talent. You are just consuming his product, and rather poorly if you "hate" Kiffin. Yes, this is confirmation of your stupidity. Can you understand that? I thought this was far beyond your ability to comprehend. I was right. Idiots...

bobbarbilly writes:

Gone, but not forgotten.

Huttdawg100 writes:

This all falls back to Hamilton in my book. Kiffin wasn't scared of Hamilton. He didn't respect him. That's why he acted out. Look at his actions at USC. He's toned his behavior way down. Pat Haden told Kiffin he wasn't going to put up with it, and now they're a top 3 team, and they all of their 2013 commitments are at least 4 star athletes (they got a very high 3 star that will get bumped to 4 star before signing day).

That's why I could care less about people complaining about Dave Hart laying the wood in the athletic department. Pat Haden knows football is first, and everything will fall into place if football is right. Harts the same way. Look at Bama. Football shaped up, now basketball is coming around. It's for the greater good.

Kiffin and Hamilton devastated UT football, and put us in a terrible position. I will say this about Kiffin. I was very proud to see Spurrier get run out of Neyland like the punk that he is. That was a fun night in Neyland!

VolGrad writes:

Did somebody say something? Was there a story here? There must have been a story 'cause I see a place for comments.

???

RockyToptoNeyland writes:

I wish kiffin would take a hammer, hit himself self in the head as many times as it takes to realize that he needs to leave usc for a sewer treatment facility job. He's specially qualified in that area.

VolzsFan writes:

in response to TheVolMan:

Hey posters,
You can remove all uncertainty of your stupidity if you need to hammer Kiffin or Strange. Kiffin's Tennessee team was the best coached since the Dickey era. The Bama game is one shining example. Same goes for the Crompton and Hardesty turnarounds. Oh yeah, there weren't too many penalties, huh? His team was woefully short on depth and he and the staff made the most of what they had. And just know that Mike Strange is simply telling it like it is. Remember that he is the writer--he actually gets paid for his thoughts and talent. You are just consuming his product, and rather poorly if you "hate" Kiffin. Yes, this is confirmation of your stupidity. Can you understand that? I thought this was far beyond your ability to comprehend. I was right. Idiots...

This is without the stupidest take I have ever heard. This clown is evenhandedly responsible for the nightmare UT is in and will remain in for decades. He ran off 44 players that where here or committed. Many are current or future NFL players. He did this to "be a man" and shoot some prisoners yet got carried away.

He was handed 10 NFL players. 6 got drafted that year (and all 6 where in the mock drafts long before there was a Kiffin), one was projected as the first center picked but he threatened to kick Oregeron's you know what and never played again. 2 more went the following year.

Finally, he was favored in 9 (that is NINE for you dolts like the Volidiotman) and he won 7.

Hey poster, you are the reason they ran off the most successful coach in school history, top 5 all time in SEC history and a first ballot Hall of Famer.

Best coached team since Dickey.....LOL!!! Maybe you missed Ole Miss and Va Tech taking Monte to the woodshed. Maybe you missed Rick from UCLA taking Lane to the woodshed. I assure you that all of the Hall of Famer's staff got great BCS jobs that year. One got it the next year at Arkansas. He was in his 60's and had a harder time. I assure you Chavis is a proven better college d coord than Monte. Cut is proven a much better o coord and head coach than Lane. Your stupidity would be expected in Alabama but you are really embarrassing all of us in Tenn.

chuckfromwoodberry writes:

in response to VolzsFan:

This is without the stupidest take I have ever heard. This clown is evenhandedly responsible for the nightmare UT is in and will remain in for decades. He ran off 44 players that where here or committed. Many are current or future NFL players. He did this to "be a man" and shoot some prisoners yet got carried away.

He was handed 10 NFL players. 6 got drafted that year (and all 6 where in the mock drafts long before there was a Kiffin), one was projected as the first center picked but he threatened to kick Oregeron's you know what and never played again. 2 more went the following year.

Finally, he was favored in 9 (that is NINE for you dolts like the Volidiotman) and he won 7.

Hey poster, you are the reason they ran off the most successful coach in school history, top 5 all time in SEC history and a first ballot Hall of Famer.

Best coached team since Dickey.....LOL!!! Maybe you missed Ole Miss and Va Tech taking Monte to the woodshed. Maybe you missed Rick from UCLA taking Lane to the woodshed. I assure you that all of the Hall of Famer's staff got great BCS jobs that year. One got it the next year at Arkansas. He was in his 60's and had a harder time. I assure you Chavis is a proven better college d coord than Monte. Cut is proven a much better o coord and head coach than Lane. Your stupidity would be expected in Alabama but you are really embarrassing all of us in Tenn.

You hit the nail on the head VzF. The two best coaches at UT during the backstabbers tenure were Cut and Chavis.

MooseandSquirrelVol writes:

in response to TheVolMan:

Hey posters,
You can remove all uncertainty of your stupidity if you need to hammer Kiffin or Strange. Kiffin's Tennessee team was the best coached since the Dickey era. The Bama game is one shining example. Same goes for the Crompton and Hardesty turnarounds. Oh yeah, there weren't too many penalties, huh? His team was woefully short on depth and he and the staff made the most of what they had. And just know that Mike Strange is simply telling it like it is. Remember that he is the writer--he actually gets paid for his thoughts and talent. You are just consuming his product, and rather poorly if you "hate" Kiffin. Yes, this is confirmation of your stupidity. Can you understand that? I thought this was far beyond your ability to comprehend. I was right. Idiots...

"BullWinkle"

MooseandSquirrelVol writes:

in response to VolzsFan:

This is without the stupidest take I have ever heard. This clown is evenhandedly responsible for the nightmare UT is in and will remain in for decades. He ran off 44 players that where here or committed. Many are current or future NFL players. He did this to "be a man" and shoot some prisoners yet got carried away.

He was handed 10 NFL players. 6 got drafted that year (and all 6 where in the mock drafts long before there was a Kiffin), one was projected as the first center picked but he threatened to kick Oregeron's you know what and never played again. 2 more went the following year.

Finally, he was favored in 9 (that is NINE for you dolts like the Volidiotman) and he won 7.

Hey poster, you are the reason they ran off the most successful coach in school history, top 5 all time in SEC history and a first ballot Hall of Famer.

Best coached team since Dickey.....LOL!!! Maybe you missed Ole Miss and Va Tech taking Monte to the woodshed. Maybe you missed Rick from UCLA taking Lane to the woodshed. I assure you that all of the Hall of Famer's staff got great BCS jobs that year. One got it the next year at Arkansas. He was in his 60's and had a harder time. I assure you Chavis is a proven better college d coord than Monte. Cut is proven a much better o coord and head coach than Lane. Your stupidity would be expected in Alabama but you are really embarrassing all of us in Tenn.

It's as easy as A,B,C.
A. Right, wrong, or indifferent, Coach Fulmer's gone.
B. Right,wrong,or indifferent, Coach Fulmer will not be back.
C. You can live in the past and eat yourself alive because of it, or you can move on.

A and B cannot be altered.

The choice on C, clearly, is your's.

BMSvol writes:

in response to TheVolMan:

Hey posters,
You can remove all uncertainty of your stupidity if you need to hammer Kiffin or Strange. Kiffin's Tennessee team was the best coached since the Dickey era. The Bama game is one shining example. Same goes for the Crompton and Hardesty turnarounds. Oh yeah, there weren't too many penalties, huh? His team was woefully short on depth and he and the staff made the most of what they had. And just know that Mike Strange is simply telling it like it is. Remember that he is the writer--he actually gets paid for his thoughts and talent. You are just consuming his product, and rather poorly if you "hate" Kiffin. Yes, this is confirmation of your stupidity. Can you understand that? I thought this was far beyond your ability to comprehend. I was right. Idiots...

where did u see someone say they "hate" kiffen?

his staff actually made the least of what they had but go on rambling incoherently or get yourself a socal jersey.

this blog is for vol fans! is that beyond YOUR ability to comprehend?

10seVol85_Part_Deux writes:

The only thing that bothers me a little about this is the free publicity it's giving USC in our back yard. Yeah, let's just talk on and on about what an awesome coach Kiffin is and how amazing USC is. That probably won't ever have any influence on a top in-state prospect who might be considering USC over the Vols. No, probably never happen.

MidTennVol writes:

One of these days, I hope in my lifetime, I hope I can see a football coaching staff comprised almost entirely of Tennessee people -- people who bled for Tennessee and are ready to do it again. There are quite a few out there coaching now and doing well, from what I've read...Dale Jones, Marion Hobby, Terry Fair, Alvin Harper, etc. Wish we had them. We got Jay G. -- should have found a spot for Tee, as I see it.

Henley-Street-Bridge writes:

Tennessee fans have acted just like jilted lovers over Lane Kiffin. I'm sorry, he found something even better and left, so get over it.
Lane Kiffin is one heck of a field coach, and it showed in the close Vol loss to Alabama down there and with Florida (remember those games Vol fans?), Yep, and he whipped Spurriers bratty butt and sent him packing.

I wish he could have stayed longer, and I don't feel at all but good things the short period he was with us.

GO VOLS

Razor784 writes:

The only reason we're still talking about Kiffin is because USC is ranked so high heading into the preseason, once they choke this year, we won't be talking about him any more.

UTistheOLEMISSoftheEAST writes:

Lane is building a powerhouse at USC and Dooley can't beat Kentucky even with the next coming of Peyton Manning. Yeah, ut fans are glad he's gone. Not.

ColPhorbin writes:

Bottom line (and I love Knoxville): but if you've no ties here and you're looking in the face of SEC competition and the west side stands of Neyland stadium, which represents that old school south (btw, watch them sit on their hands for yet another season), it's pretty po dunk here...no wonder he moved on. Only 8 days til Phish resumes tour, so things are looking up. Just keeping it real

gc_scvol writes:

in response to TheVolMan:

Hey posters,
You can remove all uncertainty of your stupidity if you need to hammer Kiffin or Strange. Kiffin's Tennessee team was the best coached since the Dickey era. The Bama game is one shining example. Same goes for the Crompton and Hardesty turnarounds. Oh yeah, there weren't too many penalties, huh? His team was woefully short on depth and he and the staff made the most of what they had. And just know that Mike Strange is simply telling it like it is. Remember that he is the writer--he actually gets paid for his thoughts and talent. You are just consuming his product, and rather poorly if you "hate" Kiffin. Yes, this is confirmation of your stupidity. Can you understand that? I thought this was far beyond your ability to comprehend. I was right. Idiots...

6/5/2007

gc_scvol writes:

in response to GeauxTeamScribbler:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

Jeffy-I'm guessing--You're going to be late for the morning pep rally. Now get out there and sell some Amway.

atnvol#283282 writes:

Anyone who doesn't think Kiffin will be one of the top coaches in the country is fooling himself. Yes, it hurt us badly when he left(football wise),but he left for a much better program and situation. Look how he played alabubba in '09(Kiffin). We should have won the game if not for a pathetic kicker. Dooley, unfortunately for us, has not demonstrated any penchant for game day coaching. The Kentucky game will forever be his albatross.

SummittsCourt writes:

in response to UTistheOLEMISSoftheEAST:

Lane is building a powerhouse at USC and Dooley can't beat Kentucky even with the next coming of Peyton Manning. Yeah, ut fans are glad he's gone. Not.

USC was a powerhouse before weasel boy got there. Real UT fans never wanted the SOB in the first place and real UT fans are glad he is gone. If you knew what you were talking about you wouldn't make such stupid comments.

SummittsCourt writes:

in response to atnvol#283282:

Anyone who doesn't think Kiffin will be one of the top coaches in the country is fooling himself. Yes, it hurt us badly when he left(football wise),but he left for a much better program and situation. Look how he played alabubba in '09(Kiffin). We should have won the game if not for a pathetic kicker. Dooley, unfortunately for us, has not demonstrated any penchant for game day coaching. The Kentucky game will forever be his albatross.

How can you blame the kicker when it was the offensive line who broke down and let that fat slob get through TWICE!

Also, weasel boy played it safe instead of getting closer to the goal line. He still had 27 seconds left which UT could have moved in closer to make for an easier kick.

and oh yeah, It was bama who had a 4th quarter brain fart that led to UT getting in position for the kick, not weasel boy's coaching.

CarlChilders writes:

Non-story. Fodder intended for the sole purpose of provocation. It obviously worked.

123forVOLS writes:

Could someone tell Mr. Strange Lane ? is no longer at Tennessee. We don't care what mistakes he is not making now. We don't care about anything he is doing. Good Grief. Someone please let me know what Strange and others get out of articles like this. Are Vols fans calling, begging and insisting to know what's going one with someone who registers 0 on our interest scale? I just do not get it.

123forVOLS writes:

in response to TheVolMan:

Hey posters,
You can remove all uncertainty of your stupidity if you need to hammer Kiffin or Strange. Kiffin's Tennessee team was the best coached since the Dickey era. The Bama game is one shining example. Same goes for the Crompton and Hardesty turnarounds. Oh yeah, there weren't too many penalties, huh? His team was woefully short on depth and he and the staff made the most of what they had. And just know that Mike Strange is simply telling it like it is. Remember that he is the writer--he actually gets paid for his thoughts and talent. You are just consuming his product, and rather poorly if you "hate" Kiffin. Yes, this is confirmation of your stupidity. Can you understand that? I thought this was far beyond your ability to comprehend. I was right. Idiots...

My only reply to all the junk you put in this post is -----------------

easleychuck writes:

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DeltaCharlie3 writes:

There's no doubt that UT would have been a better, more prepared team under Kiffin than this current dipstick, but wasn't his one year at UT really very mediocre? Didn't he lose 6 games including an embarrassing bowl game thrashing? Yeah, yeah, I know, he kept the game reasonably close against UF and extremely close against Bama, but he still lost both games. And if he had stayed, UT would be on probabtion by now. He was public enemy #1 at NCAA headquarters before he left. I also think USC AD Pat Haden laid down the law at USC, unlike that fool y'all had as AD during Kiffin's reign who enabled, encouraged and placated a very rogue KIffin.

JayTee writes:

Who gives a big rat's a** what Kiffin does. If you like him so much move to L.A. where you can write about him to his fans.

BigOrangeFever76 (Inactive) writes:

in response to GeauxTeamScribbler:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

Flowers, you are up early this morning. What's the matter? Did your overnight Depends spring a leak?

Go Vols. Go Dooley. Rocky Top wooooooooooooo!

laraccoon writes:

For all the ones complaining about the article i suggest you go back and reread the first sentence , it was your choice not to heed .

Pullingguard writes:

Face the facts, Kiffin is an excellent recruiter, surrounds himself with a good staff who also recruits and coach's well. Kiffin is not the reason for UT being at the bottom of the SEC, for he was here for only one year. His class that he recruited did not pan out, but he was not here to guide them. Had he stayed at UT you can believe the Vols would have been competiting for the SEC Championship. He was sharp enough to get T Martin when our own coach did not even interview him... I wish the Vols success as never before, but from all indications it will come from a new Staff. People need to get off Kiffin and concentrate on things that they can help control. Thought this was a good article, just telling the facts...

govolsn3 writes:

Hey, has anyone noticed the new user names popping up on here. Someone is talking to themselves. TROLLS TILL THE END. Go Big Orange from a True VOL FOR LIFE>

jpark001 writes:

The responsibility for Lane's departure falls directly on Mike Hamilton for getting played by Lane's agent Jimmy Sexton. Had the buyout number for him (Kiffin) leaving when he did (year one) been where any experienced AD would have set it (and where UT now sets it today) to protect his investment then Lane would not have been a financially acceptable fall-back option for USC when others turned that job down.

A $200K buyout is far easier to eat by a coach/interested school than a $2-7M obstacle one might normally expected to see in year one of walking out on an agreement. The UTAD made it easy for USC.

Tennesseebob writes:

I guess I'm one of the 'reasonable' ones. I don't begrudge Lane for leaving TN for SC. He's telling the truth when he says it's his dream job. I pull for SC. Also, I wish TN could have found a way to hire Tee Martin. The fact that Lane did shows how smart he is.

Volalumnus writes:

in response to VolzsFan:

This is without the stupidest take I have ever heard. This clown is evenhandedly responsible for the nightmare UT is in and will remain in for decades. He ran off 44 players that where here or committed. Many are current or future NFL players. He did this to "be a man" and shoot some prisoners yet got carried away.

He was handed 10 NFL players. 6 got drafted that year (and all 6 where in the mock drafts long before there was a Kiffin), one was projected as the first center picked but he threatened to kick Oregeron's you know what and never played again. 2 more went the following year.

Finally, he was favored in 9 (that is NINE for you dolts like the Volidiotman) and he won 7.

Hey poster, you are the reason they ran off the most successful coach in school history, top 5 all time in SEC history and a first ballot Hall of Famer.

Best coached team since Dickey.....LOL!!! Maybe you missed Ole Miss and Va Tech taking Monte to the woodshed. Maybe you missed Rick from UCLA taking Lane to the woodshed. I assure you that all of the Hall of Famer's staff got great BCS jobs that year. One got it the next year at Arkansas. He was in his 60's and had a harder time. I assure you Chavis is a proven better college d coord than Monte. Cut is proven a much better o coord and head coach than Lane. Your stupidity would be expected in Alabama but you are really embarrassing all of us in Tenn.

Not sure I could agree that Kiffin is the best since Dickey, However he is the better of the last 2.

volaholic45 writes:

Everybody seems to have forgotten that he didn't just leave for his dream job, but immediately started working UT recruits to come with him. I even seem to remember Orgeron working enrollees not to go to class to facilitate transferring to USC. On the whole, Boy Kiffin made a significant contribution (along with Fulmer's long slide and Dooley's br@inf@rts and losing control of the team last year) to our recent suckage.

Volalumnus writes:

in response to SummittsCourt:

How can you blame the kicker when it was the offensive line who broke down and let that fat slob get through TWICE!

Also, weasel boy played it safe instead of getting closer to the goal line. He still had 27 seconds left which UT could have moved in closer to make for an easier kick.

and oh yeah, It was bama who had a 4th quarter brain fart that led to UT getting in position for the kick, not weasel boy's coaching.

All true points but what was the score of that game?
What has been the scores of those games since?

SevenT writes:

The most hilarious part was the hundreds of idiot UT fans that took part in the Riots and lit fires when Kiffin left!!

If you ask me UT fans deserved it for stabbing Fulmer.

Make no mistake about it UT fan this program will remain in the dump for a LONG time. Get used to losing and remember you asked for it.

lemme_axya_this writes:

I still hope the little weasel finds out that Layla and Montori Hughes made a video.

BigOrangeFever76 (Inactive) writes:

in response to WaltGoVols:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

WaltNoBalls...it would be hard to decide who makes the most stupid posts between you and Flowers. You may have moved into the lead with this zinger.

If you love Weasel Boy so much, may I suggest you move the "The Land of Fruits & Nuts" to be close to him.

Big Orange

UT 4'eva

underthehill writes:

in response to laraccoon:

For all the ones complaining about the article i suggest you go back and reread the first sentence , it was your choice not to heed .

I reckon so..Strange knows the mention of Kiffen will always rattle a few cages..and it is obvious Kiffen is going to have excellent teams with the talent he is getting...but I don't think he would be getting this kind of talent if he had stayed at UT..I am not a Dooley fan..but I do think he is doing a good job (under the circumstances) of building a better roster now than when he arrived..and I do think 7 wins gets him another year...

BigOrangeFever76 (Inactive) writes:

in response to SevenT:

The most hilarious part was the hundreds of idiot UT fans that took part in the Riots and lit fires when Kiffin left!!

If you ask me UT fans deserved it for stabbing Fulmer.

Make no mistake about it UT fan this program will remain in the dump for a LONG time. Get used to losing and remember you asked for it.

buffoon
noun.
1. A clown; a jester: a court buffoon.
2. A ludicrous or bumbling person; a fool.

Volalumnus writes:

in response to SevenT:

The most hilarious part was the hundreds of idiot UT fans that took part in the Riots and lit fires when Kiffin left!!

If you ask me UT fans deserved it for stabbing Fulmer.

Make no mistake about it UT fan this program will remain in the dump for a LONG time. Get used to losing and remember you asked for it.

Fulmer and especially his die hard fans set his firing into motion when they refused to come to grips that Fulmer wasn't getting the job done anymore.
Sounds a lot like Dooley fans.
UT fans have to look beyond protecting the coach if they want the program to be sucessful. The Coach is given the opportunity and priviledge to protect himself by getting it done on the field, not by hiding behind fans who are capable of no more protection than a war of words.

arkyvol writes:

i never got the hatred for kiffen when he booked for socal. as strange mentions, it was his dream job, and thanks to hammy's blinding brilliance, he could be had for chump change. nobody questioned major's lineage when he dumped pitt for u.t. going back further, bowden wyatt did the same thing to arkansas. it all depends on whose ox... the really bitter memory from all this is how those mattress burning idiots were portrayed as typical u.t. fans.

BigOrangeFever76 (Inactive) writes:

in response to TennesseeTonyT:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

"What we got left with was".....really? Ever take an English 101 class TT? Or were those 8 years of High School enough "learning" for you?

You would probably sell your soul to Lucifer for a new car.

jobrando#216494 writes:

The results would have been the same at Tennessee. Maybe not on such a large scale because the competition is much tougher in the SEC. If Dooley has not got it done and it will be determined this year, I hope coach OJT is over and a real coach is hired.

Volalumnus writes:

in response to underthehill:

I reckon so..Strange knows the mention of Kiffen will always rattle a few cages..and it is obvious Kiffen is going to have excellent teams with the talent he is getting...but I don't think he would be getting this kind of talent if he had stayed at UT..I am not a Dooley fan..but I do think he is doing a good job (under the circumstances) of building a better roster now than when he arrived..and I do think 7 wins gets him another year...

The problem with 7 wins is that means 5 losses.
It is hard to see 5 losses that will be acceptable. He either wins all the easy ones and hits the bottom of the SEC again or has some losses to teams he should definately beat, or a mix of the 2 which will leave him losses he needs to recover from but by vitue of the schedule and the assumption of 7 wins, none he can use to recover.
Look closely at the schedule and peg 5 losses on it.
This is his 3rd season. He has to have signature wins and he won't do that with 5 losses.

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