Davante Bourque dealing with family issues, unlikely to return to Tennessee football team

Davante Bourque

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Davante Bourque

Freshman running back Davante Bourque, who left Tennessee amid homesickness and family issues, seems unlikely to return.

Coach Derek Dooley told GoVols247 that Bourque is "not a part of our team" after he abruptly left the team a week ago.

Kirk Landry, Bourque's father, told the News Sentinel on Friday that Bourque's homesickness was compounded by issues involving his girlfriend, with whom Bourque has a child. The girlfriend's father passed away recently, Landry said.

Landry said he's not sure of Bourque's plans for the future.

A 6-foot-3, 200-pound athlete from Crowley, La., Bourque picked the Vols over Miami (Fla.) just before National Signing Day.

"I don't think it has anything to do with us, or us not liking him or him not liking us," Dooley told GoVols247. "He's got a lot of personal, family problems that he's working through."

* Sophomore running back Devrin Young had only 21 yards rushing during Friday's scrimmage, but he scored a touchdown on a 72-yard reception. Dooley said Young's score came against the second-team defense on a "check-down" pass. A check-down is usually a short pass to a back when receivers are covered.

"We can't let that happen on that side of the ball," Dooley said.

* Dooley said depth at tight end and inside linebacker remain "real concerns." Senior inside linebacker Herman Lathers (soreness) and senior tight end Mychal Rivera (knee) didn't participate in Friday's scrimmage.

Sophomore tight end Brendan Downs left the scrimmage with a knee injury. More information on the severity of the injury likely will come today.

Dooley said the return of Lathers will help solidify a linebacking corp that should be among the team's strengths.

"It's fair to say if Herman (Lathers) is healthy, that is one of our strengths," he said. "Curt (Maggitt), Herman and A.J. (Johnson) have all proven that they can play winning football in this league. No other position has that on the whole team. Nobody else has gone 12 games and proven they can be good. That's a strength, but we need to keep them healthy because depth is a real concern."

* The start of classes next week will mark the end of camp, and focus will turn quickly to the opening game against North Carolina State.

Players also will focus on healing their bodies.

"Mentally, I feel great. Physically, I'm ready to get my body back to where it needs to be for the first game," said offensive tackle Antonio "Tiny" Richardson. "But we've been grinding. I just feel like we've taken a lot of big steps. Our confidence is up. We feel like we can play against anybody, and I say that with confidence."

* Several players said the offense owned the first half of the scrimmage, while the defense bounced back in the second.

"It was rough for us at the beginning," said junior safety Byron Moore. "We had to switch gears at halftime. We've just got to go clean it up and be more consistent."

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BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

Eerily similar to the Janzen Jackson saga..I hope he gets his life together, but UT doesn't need the drama nor the headache.

LiveFaith writes:

Could it be ... Byyyyrrrrooooon?

lomas98 writes:

Tough news on bourque, although expected since last week. Another reason recruiting rankings should be evaluated after year 1 to see who even makes it. He was one of the highest ranked recruits last year.

foosballer writes:

Too bad for Bourque...was looking forward to seeing what he could do. On the other hand...I'm so ready for August 31st!!

TheVolSnake writes:

This is really to bad, I really liked him ( Bourque) as a big running back I hope he gets everything straightened out and go far in his life.

The rest of the team is looking great and we still have some things to work on but cant wait till the 1st game.

Go Vol's

papavol writes:

"A check-down is usually a short pass to a back when receivers are covered".... REALLY!?!?

RoadTrip writes:

Complications such as having a child and being away from home that far should have been dealt with before he arrived for camp. He is young and obviously not mature enough to be the man at UT at this point anyway. Best of luck to him going forward.

keepitreal4vols writes:

I stole this from Kingberry73 on a message board but its so true. These are 18 year olds issue, everytime one of these kids suddenly starts the "issues at home" routine, we all hear about how tough it is to be away from home so far away from momma's milk, and how strange it must be to be in a place where the culture is so different, and how we should give them some slack because they got some girl pregnant as a 16 year old boy, and how terrible their life is. Reality is, they show up on campus, school paid, they have tutors/trainers/assistants virtually wiping their arses, the culture they are in is so tough, that they picked it from many other cultures they visited for free to determine if it is one they wanted to be around, lots of kids have kids, does the local factory the kid works at give him slack to be late to or leave work because he misses his kid or his girlfriend or his momma. I think not

Now lets look at the SAME age kids serving in the military, and this isn't taking into the comparison of being recruited out of high school, never taking an official or unofficial visit to "campus", being picked up and delivered to an airport(most have never flown before), flying by yourself, arriving in some strange city, boarding a bus or van, knowing no one, being taken somewhere you don't even have a clue where, no phone, no contact, being showed a bunk and told to get some sleep, the day begins early tomorrow, and being woken up to screaming and yelling and banging, having your head shaven before sunup, your pride shattered before breakfast, and your body exhausted by lunch. Oh, if you could only be given some time to go home, see your mommy or baby and get some perspective and for people to cut you some slack. These athletes are the most coddled things in life, and then when they have no ability to deal with anything or just simply want to be coddled some more, there are always plenty of people around to "give them some slack" or pop a binky into their mouth. Sheesh, sorry for the rant, lol

Davante Bourque, its time to grow up and be a MAN. Give it 4 years and the worst case scenario is you have a college education and plenty of UT network connections in the business world. You being in school is providing a better life for your family.

VolGrad writes:

Every freaking one of us matured at a very different rate. Let's cut the kid some slack until he actually proves he doesn't deserve any.

Geez.

Go Vols!

TheStupidPolice writes:

Leaving on that midnight train.

Volfever writes:

in response to keepitreal4vols:

I stole this from Kingberry73 on a message board but its so true. These are 18 year olds issue, everytime one of these kids suddenly starts the "issues at home" routine, we all hear about how tough it is to be away from home so far away from momma's milk, and how strange it must be to be in a place where the culture is so different, and how we should give them some slack because they got some girl pregnant as a 16 year old boy, and how terrible their life is. Reality is, they show up on campus, school paid, they have tutors/trainers/assistants virtually wiping their arses, the culture they are in is so tough, that they picked it from many other cultures they visited for free to determine if it is one they wanted to be around, lots of kids have kids, does the local factory the kid works at give him slack to be late to or leave work because he misses his kid or his girlfriend or his momma. I think not

Now lets look at the SAME age kids serving in the military, and this isn't taking into the comparison of being recruited out of high school, never taking an official or unofficial visit to "campus", being picked up and delivered to an airport(most have never flown before), flying by yourself, arriving in some strange city, boarding a bus or van, knowing no one, being taken somewhere you don't even have a clue where, no phone, no contact, being showed a bunk and told to get some sleep, the day begins early tomorrow, and being woken up to screaming and yelling and banging, having your head shaven before sunup, your pride shattered before breakfast, and your body exhausted by lunch. Oh, if you could only be given some time to go home, see your mommy or baby and get some perspective and for people to cut you some slack. These athletes are the most coddled things in life, and then when they have no ability to deal with anything or just simply want to be coddled some more, there are always plenty of people around to "give them some slack" or pop a binky into their mouth. Sheesh, sorry for the rant, lol

Davante Bourque, its time to grow up and be a MAN. Give it 4 years and the worst case scenario is you have a college education and plenty of UT network connections in the business world. You being in school is providing a better life for your family.

Bro, chill out, he's freakin 18 years old! You don't know what he's gone through or hasn't gone through. He's just a kid trying to do what's best for him as a son, as a father, and as a boyfriend. No need to get on your soapbox about it! At least he didn't stay and waste the time and money... Good luck to you Bourque and may you meet and overcome these challenges in life!

RockyToptoNeyland writes:

Thats not good about brendan downs.....if he's out, then we have only two true tight ends, rivera and meredith.

bob.bigorange#605842 writes:

I have to agree with Keepitreal. This kid has a free ride and a chance to get a solid education - to provide for his familys future. I was drafted into the Army. I didn't have a chance to go home but 1 wkend while I was at Fort Knox. I didn't want to be there - but I had to make it work.
This kid NEEDS to grow up and man up - either in Knoxville or wherever. He is considered an adult and its time to be one - remember, he has a child that he has to think about.

GerryOP writes:

Ahhhh, keepitreal4vols, how about keeping it real? I don't philosophically disagree with much of anything you said, but comparing soldiers to college football players is not keeping it real. C'mon pal, keep it real.

The solution for Bourgue? Cut him loose and hope he sorts out his problems. Keep it real pal and try to understand that we are dealing with real people with real problems. The handbook has not been written that answers all of the questions Bourgue is seeking answers for.

Sticking with the topic of "keep it real," sometimes reality sucks ... but it's still real.

CroKev writes:

If he has a child to think about back in Louisiana, why didn't he stay at LSU? He left the Bengal Tigers because they were too deep at RB. The kid is going to have to "man-up" eventually and take care of his family. If he had lived up to his potential, he would have been drafted when his kid turned 5, leaving the family set for life. I doubt UT releases him to an SEC school so he'll have to play for a lower-tier school that is nearby (if he plays at all).

Somebody should talk with the kid again before it's too late. Marry the girl, get an off-campus apartment, there is plenty of financial aid to help with child care while his wife finds a job, etc. There's always a way.

GerryOP writes:

in response to Volfever:

Bro, chill out, he's freakin 18 years old! You don't know what he's gone through or hasn't gone through. He's just a kid trying to do what's best for him as a son, as a father, and as a boyfriend. No need to get on your soapbox about it! At least he didn't stay and waste the time and money... Good luck to you Bourque and may you meet and overcome these challenges in life!

'Zactly right volfever. He's 18 years old. Some of us at 18 struggled with leaving home and adjusting to college life (I went over 800 miles from home, on a Greyhound bus, to go to UT) without having to deal with a teenaged mother of a child and the obligations of playing D-1 college football. Unlike B. Brown, he appears to be facing his problems/obligations without demanding star treatment as a UT football player. Simply cut him loose and hope and pray he gets help in sorting out his young life.

Dooley'll handle it and do what is right.

GerryOP writes:

in response to CroKev:

If he has a child to think about back in Louisiana, why didn't he stay at LSU? He left the Bengal Tigers because they were too deep at RB. The kid is going to have to "man-up" eventually and take care of his family. If he had lived up to his potential, he would have been drafted when his kid turned 5, leaving the family set for life. I doubt UT releases him to an SEC school so he'll have to play for a lower-tier school that is nearby (if he plays at all).

Somebody should talk with the kid again before it's too late. Marry the girl, get an off-campus apartment, there is plenty of financial aid to help with child care while his wife finds a job, etc. There's always a way.

CroKev, I agree with your closing statement "There's always a way." The rest of your post, well, not so much.

Stooley_Dinks writes:

in response to papavol:

"A check-down is usually a short pass to a back when receivers are covered".... REALLY!?!?

So what's a pass?

VFL_Troll_Patrol writes:

in response to keepitreal4vols:

I stole this from Kingberry73 on a message board but its so true. These are 18 year olds issue, everytime one of these kids suddenly starts the "issues at home" routine, we all hear about how tough it is to be away from home so far away from momma's milk, and how strange it must be to be in a place where the culture is so different, and how we should give them some slack because they got some girl pregnant as a 16 year old boy, and how terrible their life is. Reality is, they show up on campus, school paid, they have tutors/trainers/assistants virtually wiping their arses, the culture they are in is so tough, that they picked it from many other cultures they visited for free to determine if it is one they wanted to be around, lots of kids have kids, does the local factory the kid works at give him slack to be late to or leave work because he misses his kid or his girlfriend or his momma. I think not

Now lets look at the SAME age kids serving in the military, and this isn't taking into the comparison of being recruited out of high school, never taking an official or unofficial visit to "campus", being picked up and delivered to an airport(most have never flown before), flying by yourself, arriving in some strange city, boarding a bus or van, knowing no one, being taken somewhere you don't even have a clue where, no phone, no contact, being showed a bunk and told to get some sleep, the day begins early tomorrow, and being woken up to screaming and yelling and banging, having your head shaven before sunup, your pride shattered before breakfast, and your body exhausted by lunch. Oh, if you could only be given some time to go home, see your mommy or baby and get some perspective and for people to cut you some slack. These athletes are the most coddled things in life, and then when they have no ability to deal with anything or just simply want to be coddled some more, there are always plenty of people around to "give them some slack" or pop a binky into their mouth. Sheesh, sorry for the rant, lol

Davante Bourque, its time to grow up and be a MAN. Give it 4 years and the worst case scenario is you have a college education and plenty of UT network connections in the business world. You being in school is providing a better life for your family.

Let me keep it real for you. College sports and education are far from even being close to the military. Your comparison was not fare. its just not the same thing.
Also, His father told the news that Bourque's girlfriends father just passed away. I think its safe to say that he is growing up considering the fact that he want's to be there for his child and the child's mother during this hard time. School hasn't started yet so If he was allowed to go home for a few days to attend a funeral, whats so bad about that. If he comes back fine. If not, then so be it. UT will move on. Being in college, dealing with a loss and having an opportunity to be with family, Is WAY different then having these problems back home and not being able to go be with family because of your recruitment in the military. I think everyone is misunderstanding the situation. If he leaves for good thats different but if he comes back to finnish what he started, then I would say he made a grown up decision. GBO!

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hueypilot writes:

I think all you guys that are saying compare college to the military isn't fair are dead wrong. Most kids go into the military at about the same age they would go to college. I agree with the ranter. He bopped the girl, he got her pregnant, now man up and do the best thing he can for the girl and the kid, which is go get a free education so he can provide for them. If he was grown up enough to produce offspring, he ought to grow up enough to take care of him (or her). Otherwise, who do you think is going to be taking care of his wife and daughter? Don't we have enough of this out there that we, society , are acting in the role of father? Anybody want to make book on how long Davante remains the devoted Daddy? I know I don't want that bet. The kid was given a special talent, and he is not going to use that talent. Someone once said that unrealized potential is the most common flaw in man. Dead on.

BruisedOrange writes:

in response to GerryOP:

Ahhhh, keepitreal4vols, how about keeping it real? I don't philosophically disagree with much of anything you said, but comparing soldiers to college football players is not keeping it real. C'mon pal, keep it real.

The solution for Bourgue? Cut him loose and hope he sorts out his problems. Keep it real pal and try to understand that we are dealing with real people with real problems. The handbook has not been written that answers all of the questions Bourgue is seeking answers for.

Sticking with the topic of "keep it real," sometimes reality sucks ... but it's still real.

Not picking on GerryOP, but responding to ALL the posts of similar theme:

Comparing soldiers to college players... isn't that the point? BOTH leave home as teenagers, scared, homesick, facing unknowns. BOTH will be surrounded by guys in the same boat, will be fed, instructed, guided by experienced men, and told to become a team. BOTH decisions require courage, and the demands on their courage will only increase.

Following through on your original commitment is what makes you into a man, whether it's Shield-Watkins or Paris Island.

The path forward is difficult and intimidating for EVERY male who chooses to be a responsible father. But as another poster pointed out, surely there are more resources, more paid meals, more support, more chances for a successful future as a married father on scholarship at UT than whatever in Crowley, LA. (Believe me. I've been to Crowley.)

I'm not trying to be Pollyannish OR hardcore. I'm just saying the only thing that makes the aforementioned scenario unreal... is our lowered expectations.

manniesghost1903 writes:

Bourque's actions in this personal crisis are not necessarily a sign of immature behavior. None of us know all the details but history shows he is not the first high school athlete to become a parent at such an early age and under similiar circumstances.

We know females tend to develop close attachments to their fathers. In this situation, we have a young girl with a child who probably is still in high school who has lost her father. In my opinion, Bourque may be displaying responsibility in wanting to be home near her in this crisis rather then playing football at a university hundreds of miles away.

I believe it is important for Derek Dooley and his staff to make sure the team focuses on the upcoming game with NC State and to consider this incident as perhaps a personal positive for Bourque rather than a negative.

Last season created a "fragile mental state" for many of the returning players. It would be easy for some of them to see this as a negative start to the season. This places an even greater emphasis on the NC State. A strong performance by UT can remove much doubt and fears for the rest of the 2012 schedule.

SevenT writes:

in response to Volfever:

Bro, chill out, he's freakin 18 years old! You don't know what he's gone through or hasn't gone through. He's just a kid trying to do what's best for him as a son, as a father, and as a boyfriend. No need to get on your soapbox about it! At least he didn't stay and waste the time and money... Good luck to you Bourque and may you meet and overcome these challenges in life!

I will bet $100 he is not going to go home to marry the girl, get a job and support his family and child.

Just a Hunch

BigOrangeFever76 (Inactive) writes:

in response to SevenT:

I will bet $100 he is not going to go home to marry the girl, get a job and support his family and child.

Just a Hunch

Do you have $100?

I will bet $100 that you cannot keep your Mildcat loving rear off of this site for 1 week. The Vols and Dooley are in that empty head of yours big time.

Just a hunch.

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to VolGrad:

Every freaking one of us matured at a very different rate. Let's cut the kid some slack until he actually proves he doesn't deserve any.

Geez.

Go Vols!

Good point, a large percentage of young men and women never attend college again after their freshman year. This is not completely isolated to the athletic department nor will it be an uncommon incident. Young students leaving home for the first time are vulnerable emotionally and many have run back to mommy, girlfriends/boyfriends, friends and family over the years. I was dating a girl who was a senior in HS my freshman year in college, and that made it difficult with plenty of attractive coed's walking the campus everyday. We lasted until Thanksgiving weekend before the break up was final.

JCJ1986 writes:

in response to BruisedOrange:

Not picking on GerryOP, but responding to ALL the posts of similar theme:

Comparing soldiers to college players... isn't that the point? BOTH leave home as teenagers, scared, homesick, facing unknowns. BOTH will be surrounded by guys in the same boat, will be fed, instructed, guided by experienced men, and told to become a team. BOTH decisions require courage, and the demands on their courage will only increase.

Following through on your original commitment is what makes you into a man, whether it's Shield-Watkins or Paris Island.

The path forward is difficult and intimidating for EVERY male who chooses to be a responsible father. But as another poster pointed out, surely there are more resources, more paid meals, more support, more chances for a successful future as a married father on scholarship at UT than whatever in Crowley, LA. (Believe me. I've been to Crowley.)

I'm not trying to be Pollyannish OR hardcore. I'm just saying the only thing that makes the aforementioned scenario unreal... is our lowered expectations.

Yeah, but those soldiers are collecting a PAYCHECK. Big difference, buddy.

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to BruisedOrange:

Not picking on GerryOP, but responding to ALL the posts of similar theme:

Comparing soldiers to college players... isn't that the point? BOTH leave home as teenagers, scared, homesick, facing unknowns. BOTH will be surrounded by guys in the same boat, will be fed, instructed, guided by experienced men, and told to become a team. BOTH decisions require courage, and the demands on their courage will only increase.

Following through on your original commitment is what makes you into a man, whether it's Shield-Watkins or Paris Island.

The path forward is difficult and intimidating for EVERY male who chooses to be a responsible father. But as another poster pointed out, surely there are more resources, more paid meals, more support, more chances for a successful future as a married father on scholarship at UT than whatever in Crowley, LA. (Believe me. I've been to Crowley.)

I'm not trying to be Pollyannish OR hardcore. I'm just saying the only thing that makes the aforementioned scenario unreal... is our lowered expectations.

Well, perhaps you should pollute the military academy website with this comparison? Military personnel are usually inferior athletically, but superior in the classroom and have discipline honor and selfless actions. They are a minority in this country. That's why they are considered elite. Athletes like DB are elite athletically, but emotionally they are a dime a dozen. Be thankful we have personnel to fill both quotas in CFB and the military, because it wasn't that long ago many young men were forced to serve our country.

creekroad writes:

in response to keepitreal4vols:

I stole this from Kingberry73 on a message board but its so true. These are 18 year olds issue, everytime one of these kids suddenly starts the "issues at home" routine, we all hear about how tough it is to be away from home so far away from momma's milk, and how strange it must be to be in a place where the culture is so different, and how we should give them some slack because they got some girl pregnant as a 16 year old boy, and how terrible their life is. Reality is, they show up on campus, school paid, they have tutors/trainers/assistants virtually wiping their arses, the culture they are in is so tough, that they picked it from many other cultures they visited for free to determine if it is one they wanted to be around, lots of kids have kids, does the local factory the kid works at give him slack to be late to or leave work because he misses his kid or his girlfriend or his momma. I think not

Now lets look at the SAME age kids serving in the military, and this isn't taking into the comparison of being recruited out of high school, never taking an official or unofficial visit to "campus", being picked up and delivered to an airport(most have never flown before), flying by yourself, arriving in some strange city, boarding a bus or van, knowing no one, being taken somewhere you don't even have a clue where, no phone, no contact, being showed a bunk and told to get some sleep, the day begins early tomorrow, and being woken up to screaming and yelling and banging, having your head shaven before sunup, your pride shattered before breakfast, and your body exhausted by lunch. Oh, if you could only be given some time to go home, see your mommy or baby and get some perspective and for people to cut you some slack. These athletes are the most coddled things in life, and then when they have no ability to deal with anything or just simply want to be coddled some more, there are always plenty of people around to "give them some slack" or pop a binky into their mouth. Sheesh, sorry for the rant, lol

Davante Bourque, its time to grow up and be a MAN. Give it 4 years and the worst case scenario is you have a college education and plenty of UT network connections in the business world. You being in school is providing a better life for your family.

Obviously, you never went to college, never been away from home and never played football.

licknpromise777#651578 writes:

in response to bob.bigorange#605842:

I have to agree with Keepitreal. This kid has a free ride and a chance to get a solid education - to provide for his familys future. I was drafted into the Army. I didn't have a chance to go home but 1 wkend while I was at Fort Knox. I didn't want to be there - but I had to make it work.
This kid NEEDS to grow up and man up - either in Knoxville or wherever. He is considered an adult and its time to be one - remember, he has a child that he has to think about.

Also veteran out of Ft Knox..3 years in MP Corp traveling everywhere east of Miss. River supporting tank brigade..Very dreary;dingy;cold;wet existence.At 18 had to man up or face discharge..Would have gladly gone to UT instead

laraccoon writes:

Comparing 18 yr. old kid who knocked up his high school girlfriend to an 18 yr. old who rides in a Humvee that could trigger an IED , or could be the target of a sniper, or a kid doing a house to house search for Al Qaeda murdering thugs while innocent people are hanging from a bridge at the entrance of a town . I think its fair to say that in reality its no comparison at all . And thank you to all our Troops !

BruisedOrange writes:

Good grief!

My ONLY comparison between football players and the INCREDIBLE men and women of our military was the emotional/maturational similarities in how they BEGIN their journey. The finished products are worlds apart in nearly every way.

As for the "paycheck" difference (aside from the monetary value of the scholarship), I still maintain it's better to start a life as a family on the gov't dole for 4 years WHILE working to build the future of your choice, than to be on the dole in Crowley, LA with fewer and lesser opportunities, waiting for a better option to appear.

Now obviously, if young Bourque has a job offer waiting for him in the offshore oil fields, and he's willing to take that option over college (without bitterness), then he will have made a sound and family-responsible financial decision. Especially in this economy.

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to BruisedOrange:

Good grief!

My ONLY comparison between football players and the INCREDIBLE men and women of our military was the emotional/maturational similarities in how they BEGIN their journey. The finished products are worlds apart in nearly every way.

As for the "paycheck" difference (aside from the monetary value of the scholarship), I still maintain it's better to start a life as a family on the gov't dole for 4 years WHILE working to build the future of your choice, than to be on the dole in Crowley, LA with fewer and lesser opportunities, waiting for a better option to appear.

Now obviously, if young Bourque has a job offer waiting for him in the offshore oil fields, and he's willing to take that option over college (without bitterness), then he will have made a sound and family-responsible financial decision. Especially in this economy.

As far as responsibility are concerned, DB displays none of that fathering a child out of wedlock and without a job. Leaving home to play FB 11 hours away from home probably angered this young woman and made it virtually impossible for him to continue on with such backlash constantly distracting him. I can't say I blame him for leaving under those circumstances and that shows he has a conscience and some responsibility.

licknpromise777#651578 writes:

Probably more important for him to learn how to be a Dad;Nothing wrong with that..Unfortunate he will probably never play a down at UT..Won't be seeing him at nearby LSU because they don't need him..Down the road this may hurt considering Watson is a mediocre back at best and we have not signed a RB for the next class..For the life of me I can't understand why we can't sign a top#10 back..Given the need and all UT has to offer this makes zero sense!! We can't keep signing the#40 RB while Bama and FLA are signing the #1 backs in the country..This should be top priority for Dooley!!I don't think we are even on the radar for a top#10 back for this class

volinlm writes:

in response to keepitreal4vols:

I stole this from Kingberry73 on a message board but its so true. These are 18 year olds issue, everytime one of these kids suddenly starts the "issues at home" routine, we all hear about how tough it is to be away from home so far away from momma's milk, and how strange it must be to be in a place where the culture is so different, and how we should give them some slack because they got some girl pregnant as a 16 year old boy, and how terrible their life is. Reality is, they show up on campus, school paid, they have tutors/trainers/assistants virtually wiping their arses, the culture they are in is so tough, that they picked it from many other cultures they visited for free to determine if it is one they wanted to be around, lots of kids have kids, does the local factory the kid works at give him slack to be late to or leave work because he misses his kid or his girlfriend or his momma. I think not

Now lets look at the SAME age kids serving in the military, and this isn't taking into the comparison of being recruited out of high school, never taking an official or unofficial visit to "campus", being picked up and delivered to an airport(most have never flown before), flying by yourself, arriving in some strange city, boarding a bus or van, knowing no one, being taken somewhere you don't even have a clue where, no phone, no contact, being showed a bunk and told to get some sleep, the day begins early tomorrow, and being woken up to screaming and yelling and banging, having your head shaven before sunup, your pride shattered before breakfast, and your body exhausted by lunch. Oh, if you could only be given some time to go home, see your mommy or baby and get some perspective and for people to cut you some slack. These athletes are the most coddled things in life, and then when they have no ability to deal with anything or just simply want to be coddled some more, there are always plenty of people around to "give them some slack" or pop a binky into their mouth. Sheesh, sorry for the rant, lol

Davante Bourque, its time to grow up and be a MAN. Give it 4 years and the worst case scenario is you have a college education and plenty of UT network connections in the business world. You being in school is providing a better life for your family.

Ah, yes. It's all coming back to me. 1966! Nothing like the military draft to focus the mind. Except, for me, it didn't. But, four years later, the GI Bill and UT gave me a second chance. Life is tough! Suck it up!
Class of '73

mocsandvolsfan writes:

Every singledarnoneofyou is WRONG!

clvolfan writes:

in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE:

Eerily similar to the Janzen Jackson saga..I hope he gets his life together, but UT doesn't need the drama nor the headache.

Just what I was thinking,where's Janzen now???

CoverOrange writes:

Him being there for his kid and girlfriend is more important than him being here for our entertainment.

He can still get a free education in Louisiana and be there to support his family. Don't judge what you don't understand.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

I lie the kid. He's admitting that he's the dad! That's a welcome difference for a lot of young males. DNA?

REGARDLESS! How can anyone after leaving Louisiana ever want to go back? How can anyone after living in Tennessee ever want to leave?
I mean you can get the hot sauce in any state!?
I guess home is home. Good luck kid. Take care of that baby. There ARE other things besides football...well basketball!! I HOPE you still get the education part somewhere.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

uhhh I don't "lie the kid"!? I do LIKE him though. Even though I don't know him.

packagestore writes:

It is his talent. Not mine or yours. He can use or not use it as he desires. Compared to Edison, Carver, Einstein, Gates and Jobs my use of God given talent pales in comparison.
How well do you stack up? How many company owners would hire a key employee with the same circumstances??? Been there done that, it usually fails. It is my understanding, D1 sports at this level is big business. If so, this was a bad "hire". Strong companies can take a hit like this. weaker ones.... Not so much.

seaplane#216536 writes:

Move on. He's not coming back. Concentrate on the one's that are there.

VolzsFan writes:

I think losing Bork should cost us two wins. Not good...LOL!

us43137415#376444 writes:

So he's homesick.

Big deal. He's a mama's boy

Some little boys never man up.

I'm sure there's some little 500-student community college down there he can play for, then he can forget the pro's. The NFL would eat him alive.

Nothing to see here folks.. move along.

GerryOP writes:

in response to BruisedOrange:

Not picking on GerryOP, but responding to ALL the posts of similar theme:

Comparing soldiers to college players... isn't that the point? BOTH leave home as teenagers, scared, homesick, facing unknowns. BOTH will be surrounded by guys in the same boat, will be fed, instructed, guided by experienced men, and told to become a team. BOTH decisions require courage, and the demands on their courage will only increase.

Following through on your original commitment is what makes you into a man, whether it's Shield-Watkins or Paris Island.

The path forward is difficult and intimidating for EVERY male who chooses to be a responsible father. But as another poster pointed out, surely there are more resources, more paid meals, more support, more chances for a successful future as a married father on scholarship at UT than whatever in Crowley, LA. (Believe me. I've been to Crowley.)

I'm not trying to be Pollyannish OR hardcore. I'm just saying the only thing that makes the aforementioned scenario unreal... is our lowered expectations.

Bruised, a slight difference. When a jock arrives on campus, he/she is pampered, coddled, well fed, well housed, honored, praised, and everyone wants to meet and be seen with them. When a recruit arrives at basic training-- whether it be in San Antonio, Great Lakes, Columbia, or PI -- don't think the same "greeting" is offered.

As I have said, philosophically I agree -- man-up, grow-up, and be responsible. But in reality, the only comparison that is valid is that both are 17-18 year old kids away from home and in a strange place away from mommy and daddy for the 1st time in their life.

ktemaque1 writes:

in response to keepitreal4vols:

I stole this from Kingberry73 on a message board but its so true. These are 18 year olds issue, everytime one of these kids suddenly starts the "issues at home" routine, we all hear about how tough it is to be away from home so far away from momma's milk, and how strange it must be to be in a place where the culture is so different, and how we should give them some slack because they got some girl pregnant as a 16 year old boy, and how terrible their life is. Reality is, they show up on campus, school paid, they have tutors/trainers/assistants virtually wiping their arses, the culture they are in is so tough, that they picked it from many other cultures they visited for free to determine if it is one they wanted to be around, lots of kids have kids, does the local factory the kid works at give him slack to be late to or leave work because he misses his kid or his girlfriend or his momma. I think not

Now lets look at the SAME age kids serving in the military, and this isn't taking into the comparison of being recruited out of high school, never taking an official or unofficial visit to "campus", being picked up and delivered to an airport(most have never flown before), flying by yourself, arriving in some strange city, boarding a bus or van, knowing no one, being taken somewhere you don't even have a clue where, no phone, no contact, being showed a bunk and told to get some sleep, the day begins early tomorrow, and being woken up to screaming and yelling and banging, having your head shaven before sunup, your pride shattered before breakfast, and your body exhausted by lunch. Oh, if you could only be given some time to go home, see your mommy or baby and get some perspective and for people to cut you some slack. These athletes are the most coddled things in life, and then when they have no ability to deal with anything or just simply want to be coddled some more, there are always plenty of people around to "give them some slack" or pop a binky into their mouth. Sheesh, sorry for the rant, lol

Davante Bourque, its time to grow up and be a MAN. Give it 4 years and the worst case scenario is you have a college education and plenty of UT network connections in the business world. You being in school is providing a better life for your family.

Well said! Our society is so messed up that we treat these coddled babies as heroes, instead of the real heroes who put their lives on the line every day for us! As a long time member of the Tennessee Fund, it absolutely chaps my behind to know that my money has been thrown away by some mama's boy.

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to VolzsFan:

I think losing Bork should cost us two wins. Not good...LOL!

I think of dork every time you post a comment, and you are not part of "US"(UT fans)you're a gata troll..

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to clvolfan:

Just what I was thinking,where's Janzen now???

Yep, JJ could have anchored our secondary and probably would have been All-SEC if he could have gotten his act together.

FLORIDAGATORHATER writes:

Betta pay dat child suppote mane!!!!

rkw2 writes:

in response to papavol:

"A check-down is usually a short pass to a back when receivers are covered".... REALLY!?!?

That's so BodeaneVol, ProfessionalHandicapper/CantStandSaban, et al, can know what it means.

NYvolFan writes:

in response to TheStupidPolice:

Leaving on that midnight train.

It was actually a midnight "bus"

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