David Climer: Is Butch Jones capable of building a winning football team?

Cincinnati head coach Butch Jones towels off after getting water dumped on him by his players after Cincinnati defeated Vanderbilt 31-24 in the Liberty Bowl NCAA college football game on Saturday, Dec. 31, 2011, in Memphis, Tenn. (AP Photo/Mark Humphrey)

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Cincinnati head coach Butch Jones towels off after getting water dumped on him by his players after Cincinnati defeated Vanderbilt 31-24 in the Liberty Bowl NCAA college football game on Saturday, Dec. 31, 2011, in Memphis, Tenn. (AP Photo/Mark Humphrey)

NASHVILLE - As Tennessee’s search for a football coach devolved into a scavenger hunt, Dave Hart grabbed this clue:

He has proved he can pick up right where Brian Kelly left off.

With that, Hart turned his attention to Cincinnati and the job Butch Jones has done in the three seasons since Kelly left for Notre Dame.

Apparently, that’s what Vol Ball has come to. If Jones officially is announced as UT’s coach as expected, we will find out if he can cut it without the benefit of having Kelly first lay a foundation for success.

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Rock85 writes:

Now all the State run Radio and TV shows. Tell me how I need to get behind this guy, And give him at least Three years.Its the asst Coaches fault and players when we lose. TENNESSEE IS NOT READY FOR BIG BOY FOOTBALL...

volunteer_cowboy writes:

NO! Maybe in another conference but not the sec. East or West

volunteer_cowboy writes:

Of all places and of all times why would UT go and hire a HOPEFUL up and comer when they needed to spend the money and get a PROVEN HC. Beer budget head coach not a champaign budget anything. Hart should be ashamed and FIRED!!!!!

CoverOrange writes:

Hey, Climer, check UT's recent history with search firms. Very mixed results.

1939flyingwedge writes:

.......no

SummittsCourt writes:

We UT would have hired Brian Kelly to begin with. None of this would be happening right now. SMH

CheckerboardPassed writes:

lunch at the Cracker Barrel in Denver??

underthehill writes:

in response to CoverOrange:

Hey, Climer, check UT's recent history with search firms. Very mixed results.

I think UT used a search firm for Dooley..Vandy got Franklin w/o a search firm..not a very good argument for a search firm..

WetumpkaThumpa writes:

IN 2010, Butch Jones and Cincy went 4-8 with mostly Brian Kelly players. This season Jones team shared the league title with 65 first or second year players and won nine games. Since 2010, Jones is 19-6 with two shared league titles. So yes, I would say that he's capable of building his own football team. The Vols haven't won 19 games in the last three seasons combined. The Vols hired a proven winner and this is a fantastic hire. All the people bashing Jones will look like idiots when he's doing what Kelly has done at ND for Tennessee.

dvhill100 writes:

Well, if this is not another false alarm, then he'll have my full support until he proves he can't do the job. Lets see (if he is hired) what he does with the recruiting class.

ktm589 writes:

Dooley could win in the big least!!!!!!!!

tgiles1944#654264 writes:

in response to ktm589:

Dooley could win in the big least!!!!!!!!

Your bread is not quite done!

Geofffourmyle writes:

"Over the last couple of weeks, UT athletics director Dave Hart has conducted a clinic on how not to conduct a coaching search. His dogged determination to handle things himself without engaging a search firm made UT a national punchline."

If Jones succeeds it will be in spite of the clowns at the top of our flagship university.

Walt

UT '81

TXTN writes:

volunteer_cowboy - no PROVEN head coaches want to come to UT. Butch Jones has been successful at both Central Michigan and Cincinnati. I think this is a good hire. We have to be realistic and accept the fact that most people who don't wear orange tinted glasses don't view this as an elite job anymore. It's a good job and we got a good coach but the fact that we all got wrapped up in the Gruden fantasy is embarassing.

Welcome Coach Jones! Good luck.

WetumpkaThumpa writes:

in response to Geofffourmyle:

"Over the last couple of weeks, UT athletics director Dave Hart has conducted a clinic on how not to conduct a coaching search. His dogged determination to handle things himself without engaging a search firm made UT a national punchline."

If Jones succeeds it will be in spite of the clowns at the top of our flagship university.

Walt

UT '81

Walt, Not if Jones succeeds, but when. The man has won everywhere he has been.

BruisedOrange writes:

Climer is often needlessly critical.

Not this time.

I don't feel good about this hire. I'd rather see a coordinator/HC-to-be hired with Fulmer brought in as a purposeful interim HC, to stabilize the program over 1-2 years and prepare that coordinator for taking over the HC position.

The special coaching talent that's attainable is currently at the coordinator level. This would be the best way to get one of those rising stars in-house and acclimated to Tennessee tradition and the SEC.

Fulmer's strength was always organization and administration. Fulmer could also redeem a lot of old recruiting relationships. Maybe we could then ask Fulmer to replace the AD and right that ship.

AlpharettaVol writes:

Each reporter has his own choice for HC, but most are not willing to say who that is. Climer certainly fits into that category. My guess is that he's probably never hired anyone in his life. If you don't agree with him you must be an incompetent fool. It's amazing that so many have already decided that Jones can't do the job, even though he hasn't even been offered the job.
Let all those who have actually had a hand in hiring a college football coach speak up. Three . . . Two . . . One . . . Go!

sunglaspro#374094 writes:

in response to BruisedOrange:

Climer is often needlessly critical.

Not this time.

I don't feel good about this hire. I'd rather see a coordinator/HC-to-be hired with Fulmer brought in as a purposeful interim HC, to stabilize the program over 1-2 years and prepare that coordinator for taking over the HC position.

The special coaching talent that's attainable is currently at the coordinator level. This would be the best way to get one of those rising stars in-house and acclimated to Tennessee tradition and the SEC.

Fulmer's strength was always organization and administration. Fulmer could also redeem a lot of old recruiting relationships. Maybe we could then ask Fulmer to replace the AD and right that ship.

I'd have been ok with your scenario, but I think a large portion of the fan base would not have been.
A lot of the fan base was underwhelmed with the Cuonzo Martin hire. but once we saw how hard they played for him, people started coming around.
I think it will be the same with Jones.

licknpromise777#651578 writes:

Iam really trying hard to find something positive in this but I have concluded that Hart took ZERO advise from anyone with a brain and went arrogant renegade and made a desperation hire much like Hamilton did..Jones appears to be a slight upgrade and not the take no prisoners recruiter we need!!!On the positive side winning at Cinncy is like winning at Nascar with a Toyota Camry.So he must have something going if he's winning with 3 star nobodys .His better players were QB Munchie L.. and Kenbrell Thompkins. Remember them???

MathMan1973 writes:

If Jones is the best that UT can do... Man Up... Do It and move on. IMHO, this has the making of Dooley Version 2.0!

TucsonVol writes:

Wake up Vol fans!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dooley beat this guy to death!! We should have kept Dooley!! What kind of AD is Hart?????????????

pcorange writes:

Look, guys. Butch Jones is going to be the coach. Get behind him and shut up. He has a better record, more experience, and his recruiting class is better than Charlie Strong, yet everybody wanted him. He's had either a conference championship or a share of one four of the six years he's coached, and he's beaten Charlie Strong 2 out of the 3 times they've played each other. What's the matter with Butch Jones?

MathMan1973 writes:

in response to BruisedOrange:

Climer is often needlessly critical.

Not this time.

I don't feel good about this hire. I'd rather see a coordinator/HC-to-be hired with Fulmer brought in as a purposeful interim HC, to stabilize the program over 1-2 years and prepare that coordinator for taking over the HC position.

The special coaching talent that's attainable is currently at the coordinator level. This would be the best way to get one of those rising stars in-house and acclimated to Tennessee tradition and the SEC.

Fulmer's strength was always organization and administration. Fulmer could also redeem a lot of old recruiting relationships. Maybe we could then ask Fulmer to replace the AD and right that ship.

This is the best post that I have read on this topic... Makes sense!

pcorange writes:

in response to collegegrovebilly:

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Jimmy Cheek is the problem, not Dave Hart.

BruisedOrange writes:

2:30 P.M.

We have until 2:30 to voice our misgivings, doubts and fears.

But after that it's time to go Unified Orange Nation behind this guy and give him every chance to succeed. We need to give CBJ every advantage that a fan base can create to attract top recruits from across the country.

I know 90% of us are emotionally spent and would rather take a wait-and-see attitude... like until October. We've been burned so many times our Tennessee orange jerseys have gone from "Texas terra cotta" to "Wyoming buffalo chip."

But it's time to forget the past and act like we already have the program we want it to be.

No, my heart's not in this yet. But I'm going to ACT like this is the coaching hire of the century. I'm just a fan, but I can give my all for Tennessee today (after 2:30).

dlobh writes:

in response to Geofffourmyle:

"Over the last couple of weeks, UT athletics director Dave Hart has conducted a clinic on how not to conduct a coaching search. His dogged determination to handle things himself without engaging a search firm made UT a national punchline."

If Jones succeeds it will be in spite of the clowns at the top of our flagship university.

Walt

UT '81

. . . and the Vol fans who have already decided that Jones won't get it done. At least this guy comes in with a winning record at both previous stops.

antonio14313 writes:

everyone knows that this climer guy is an idiot. the tennessean expects people to actually pay to read his garbage?? they should conduct a search for a replacement for him! and i can't wait till coach jones proves him and others wrong. go vols!!!

t

climberNeeds2workATwendys writes:

climber will find something wrong with the vols even if they win.it could be a player not tying his shoes"correctly" or a player smiling during a game or the fact that the coach took a drink of gatorade during the game.he's as negative as he is in real.

Theo writes:

in response to BruisedOrange:

Climer is often needlessly critical.

Not this time.

I don't feel good about this hire. I'd rather see a coordinator/HC-to-be hired with Fulmer brought in as a purposeful interim HC, to stabilize the program over 1-2 years and prepare that coordinator for taking over the HC position.

The special coaching talent that's attainable is currently at the coordinator level. This would be the best way to get one of those rising stars in-house and acclimated to Tennessee tradition and the SEC.

Fulmer's strength was always organization and administration. Fulmer could also redeem a lot of old recruiting relationships. Maybe we could then ask Fulmer to replace the AD and right that ship.

And exactly what sort of recruit is going to sign up under that scenario?
I think this is a very solid hire and I expect good things for the Vols. He is a winner, has been around winners and I expect him to revive a proud program.

volcop writes:

in response to collegegrovebilly:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

Jones did not specificly say he wanted the UT head coaching job, He just wanted to be head coach at a major university, UT just happened to be one that came along.

tMc3 writes:

It is simple,the answer is NO.

Nighthawk writes:

in response to volcop:

Jones did not specificly say he wanted the UT head coaching job, He just wanted to be head coach at a major university, UT just happened to be one that came along.

Jones turned down Colorado, Purdue, and Kentucky. He didn't lunge at the first job that came down the pike, he chose the one he wanted. He did say that he had watched and followed UT for years. He saw the Strong deal falling apart and waited for the opportunity to come to him. It did and he is now our coach.

Climer is a "Vandy-Camper" all beans, no meat. Climer will always give Franklin his love, UT get the gas off of his beans. Use this article as evidence.

I'm all in with Jones. He is the best hire of the 4 SEC newbies. Look who took his place, some of you wanted Tubs at UT, we got the better coach by a long shot. Go Vols

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