Saugatuck to Sunsphere: Butch Jones' meteoric rise

Jones' meteoric rise from a small Michigan town to football coach

Butch Jones, Tennessee's new head football coach, speaks during an NCAA college football new conference on Friday, Dec. 7, 2012, in Knoxville, Tenn. The Vols' introduced Jones on Friday as its successor to Derek Dooley, who was fired Nov. 18 after going 15-21 in three seasons. (AP Photo/Wade Payne)

Butch Jones, Tennessee's new head football coach, speaks during an NCAA college football new conference on Friday, Dec. 7, 2012, in Knoxville, Tenn. The Vols' introduced Jones on Friday as its successor to Derek Dooley, who was fired Nov. 18 after going 15-21 in three seasons. (AP Photo/Wade Payne)

The menu included hamburgers, hot dogs, baked beans and a speech, but not any old speech. Butch Jones was in town. And as Bill Dunn says, Butch Jones is a "huge deal" in Saugatuck.

They gathered at St. Peter's Parish Hall on July 5. About 75 locals happily paid the five bucks for the Mens and Sons Banquet. Not an impressive number, until you realize there are only 925 people in the small Michigan town.

That's like 14,000 Knoxvillians attending a Father-Son brunch.

"Butch is beloved here, no doubt," said Alan Babbitt, the sports editor of The Holland Sentinel, the largest daily paper nearby. "You could argue he's the favorite son around here. He's the most prominent sports figure the town has ever had."

And that was even before Butch Jones was named the football coach at the University of Tennessee on Friday.

The story of Jones' ascension from coaching jobs at Central Michigan to Cincinnati and now at Tennessee, beat the odds.

The preface was penned up in Saugatuck.

To hear Dan Wilson tell it, the Lake Michigan resort destination is a quaint, uncomplicated place that ebbs and flows with the seasons. Wilson, Saugatuck High School's retired athletic director of 34 years, has lived in the town since the fall of 1972.

"We live in a glass box," he said proudly. "Everybody knows everybody."

Even in the summer time, when Saugatuck's population triples. A few thousand tourists swarm the lake's shoreline between Memorial Day and Labor Day. The downtown area — defined by three or four streets running north-south and three or four more running east-west — teems with vacationers from Chicago milling the restaurants, retailers and art galleries.

The winter brings solace. And lake effect snow.

Son of police chief

For 26 years, Lyle Jones oversaw the town as chief of police. He took the job in August 1967 after joining the force a few years beforehand. Lyle Jones, the son of an auto mechanic, worked as a truck driver for the Harris Pie Company in Saugatuck prior to that.

"As police chief, he dealt with things the way they needed to be dealt with," said Russ Stone, Saugatuck High's retired basketball coach. "It wasn't with an iron fist, but with his heart. He was somebody you want to be around; a hard worker. They don't make many guys like Lyle anymore."

When Lyle Jones passed away in April 2009 of complications from emphysema, an anonymous citizen posted on the funeral home's website, "As a pesky kid in the late '60s and early '70s, I spent many hours sitting in Lyle's office at the corner of Griffith and Culver. He was always patient and good to me, no matter what else was going on."

"Lyle meant a lot to this town and he did a great job raising Butch," Stone said.

Named after his pop but dubbed "Butch," the younger Lyle Jones was born in 1968. His mother, Betty, worked as an administrator at a local hospital.

Growing up as the son of the police chief in a town like Saugatuck comes with certain expectations. Butch Jones understood and embraced it, but went his own way.

It led to the football field and basketball court.

When Butch Jones was in elementary school, the principal handpicked him as manager for the high school basketball team. He proved to be a perfectionist. Each folded towel had a crisp crease. Everything had its place.

"He was the kid leading all the other kids on the playground and the one everyone looked up to in the classroom," Stone said.

Football career

According to a 2009 Cincinnati Enquirer profile on Butch Jones, he started washing dishes at a local restaurant in Saugatuck at 13. Paychecks went to his mom, who opened a savings account for college.

It came in handy after Jones graduated from Saugatuck in 1985. A quarterback in high school, he enrolled at Ferris State University, about an hour up I-131 North in Big Rapids, Mich., and walked onto the football team.

The career was brief. After converting to wide receiver, he was given a scholarship for his sophomore year. A knee injury ended that season – and his playing days — forcing Jones to look at alternate avenues to stay in football.

Having worked two summers as an intern with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, he knew the direction.

Barry Fagan, his offensive coordinator at Ferris, hired Jones as a student assistant.

"The questions that he asked; the things he learned; the suggestions he made — it all stood out," Fagan said. "They were at a higher level."

Just 18 credit hours short of graduating, Jones was contacted by Doug Graber, the newly hired coach at Rutgers and former defensive coordinator with the Bucs. A graduate assistant position was open.

Jones didn't hesitate.

Fagan kept his eye on his old student assistant in the years that followed. After two years as a GA at Rutgers, Jones accepted the offensive coordinator position at Division II Wilkes University in Wilkes-Barre, Pa.

In 1995, Fagan knew he was leaving Ferris State the following season. He called Jones, told him to return to Big Rapids, take a paycut and work as the team's running backs coach.

Fagan promised Jones he'd inherit the offensive coordinator job.

It happened just like that.

"He's always had a love for coaching," Fagan said. "It's obvious."

After just one year as an offensive coordinator at Ferris State, Central Michigan University called Jones. He was offered the position of tight ends coach.

"A group of players, five or six, came into my office and asked if the school could pay him more," remembered Larry Marfise, Ferris State's athletic director at the time. "They really wanted to keep him. I had to explain to them that it wasn't about money. This was a Division I coaching position."

Fourteen years later, Jones was introduced as Tennessee's 24th football coach.

"Watching him grow has been an amazing thing," said Stone.

Talk of Saugatuck

Vacationers might be a bit confused by the influx of orange in Saugatuck next summer. The T-shirts have changed from Central Michigan to Cincinnati to Tennessee.

"You can bet it's the topic of conversation around here," said Bill Dunn, Saugatuck High's football coach.

Jones will still visit. His widowed mother remains in town. Her house is perched on a hill overlooking downtown.

Saugatuck can't wait till he returns.

There's plenty to talk about.

"Whenever he comes back, it's always fun," said Wilson. "We look forward to it. He gives us his time, but doesn't seek attention. That's good. We want him to relax here."

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Butch Jones biography

Butch Jones' Memorandum of Understanding with Tennessee

Butch Jones press conference transcript

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civilianvol_formerly_marinevol writes:

Hopefully the hometown folks will have plenty to cheer about in the next few years. We can always use more Vol fans, even in Michigan.

TheEffect writes:

On a different note....but ABSOLUTELY AWESOME! Check out Taylor University's annual "Silent Night" basketball game. The crowd remains silent until the 10th point is scored....then they go completely banannas. Hysterical....and cool.

Take a momement and enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1DFWq...

DownTheField15 writes:

Sounds like UT got a coach who will represent the school well. Best wishes for much success in K-town Coach Jones!

TrackVol1975 writes:

This guy is going to do well at Tennessee. I'm sorry that such a large part of the fan base seems determined to be negative, but my sense is that he will prove a lot of people wrong. Is he Nick Saban? No, but, then, Nick Saban was not Nick Saban when LSU hired him in 2000.

In fact, I remember hearing a lot of negative comments on his hiring then, and when UAB beat LSU in Baton Rouge early in the season, the howling got louder. (LSU beat Tennessee the next week, by the way.) And when Saban went 7-6 the first year at Alabama in 2007, Paul Finebaum was all over him. We know how things ultimately turned out.

So, maybe UT fans should be willing to see what happens, as opposed to already having Jones fired in three years, as I have been reading on the message boards.

BruisedOrange writes:

A useful and appreciated article. Small town Tennesseans will identify with Jones' origins.

But please consider changing the title: "meteoric rise" implies a fast, brilliant, but SHORT-LIVED career.

Jones' career has certainly been rapidly paced BUT steady and ever upward.

volunteerintexas writes:

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rolltide1962 writes:

I believe the Vols have a coach who will get them back on track!

volthrunthru#658770 writes:

I do not care what Saugatuck thinks; I care what UT fans, players and opposing coaches & players think.

Rest assured opponents are not trembling in fear at the name “Butch Jones.” Jones could not beat Derrick Dooley. Lost to Dooley: Great qualifications be an SEC head coach. At UT??? Seiously???

Yet Hart, Cheek & the Board of Trustees hired him. Jones promises "the best staff in America," yet almost all are the crew that Dooley beat. That ain't even in the suburbs of "Best Staff."

$17,000,000 all told for this?????? Last year the Cincinnati paper quotes Jones as saying people would now know how much he wanted to be there. They now they know how much he wanted to. Does the earth move when the guy talks, or what?

"Best staff in America?” Pittman’s offensive line destroyed Jones’ defense. But Jones fires Pittman to hire the defensive coordinator whose team was beaten? Great management.
Surely Mr. Haslam did not build Pilot oil like this, or Anderson grow with executives like Cheek or Hart.

If Hart is an example of how well Southerners think, no wonder the Union won the Civil War. Certainly these Midwesterners got him---and got UT, too. The Power-T is now ridiculed from coast to coast.

Doug Dickey never held a search like this. Only Hamilton or Hart would be so inept.The "H" boys. "H Boys” sounds like a hillbilly band. Thinks like one, too.

For Hart to call Jim Tressel about the hire shows just how screwed up Hart is. But then Cheek hired Hart; what do you expect.

Very few AD’s in America are asking Bruce Pearl about potential head basketball coaches resumes. Same principle. Asking a cheater’s opinion is bad business. Tressel is still under a show cause order for cheating; the fact he says good things about Jones is NOT comforting. Frankly, it should be cause for concern.

Are there unknown clauses in Hart's contract for a huge payout, too? After all, Hamilton was paid off big to leave. Some wonder what lurks out there that may not be known, now that 25% of UT's annual $125,000,000 athletics budget is being paid to former employees; who could not cut it ethically or as coaches.

How does UT fix it?
Not on the basketball court; another Hamilton hire, who replaced Pearl, has a team that can not score 50 points in either of its last 2games.

Baseball? Delmonico, former college World Series coach fired. Hamilton's replacement comparable to Jones, took the program down. The replacement's replacement did so poorly, he apologized to the UT nation.

Swimming/diving? Uh...coach fired on a morals clause? Thanks, Hamilton.

Maybe Pat Summit’s reputation will save us, right? Uh…thanks, Hart.

Cheek is common to most of it. Hart is, too. So is Hamilton. Do Cheek and Hart have big termination money guarantees, too?

The kind of money Jones is being paid, he won’t need that, when it comes his turn.

Vol_in_Mich writes:

in response to civilianvol_formerly_marinevol:

Hopefully the hometown folks will have plenty to cheer about in the next few years. We can always use more Vol fans, even in Michigan.

Hey, quite a few of us in southwest Mich.
Saugatuck is a cool little artsey fartsey town on the shores of Lake Michigan. Been there a few times, great salmon fishing!
Come on Butch, turn this mess around!
GBO

volfanlostnbama writes:

A fitting culmination point through this video to the story of our Coach Butch Jones! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-vHo7...

greatdaysahead writes:

in response to volunteerintexas:

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Please. Have you read anything about this man? Have you seen him speak? No, he doesn't have a southern drawl, or use near perfect grammar, or have poster-boy "republican" hair; but he came from nowhere (not now-here), speaks like my former high school math teacher/high school state-champion football head coach, and has a haircut as football coach-like as his moniker. The man exudes football coach. Everything I've seen and read about him tells me he's got the stuff, the guts, the character, the passion, and the wits of the quintessential football coach. Butch Jones was born for this. And heaven forbid a disgruntled fan like yourself would be willing to give this man who is literally building his empire your approval. Goodness knows he doesn't need yours, he got all the approval he needed from the man who gave him the pen to sign on that dotted line. Jones has earned this chance to live his dream (and part of that dream includes getting paid absurd money to do what he loves, jealous? Don't care...) and I for one am all-in. What are the alternatives? Whine until we get Gruden, who would be more likely than Kiffin was to jump ship for his dream (because I can tell you, coaching at ANY college is not his dream...)? Give up on Tennessee and cheer for Alabama? Georgia? Florida? Vanderbilt?! No thanks. I'm glad we have Butch, and I am excited to back a passionate man who wants to be here and wants to prove he's got the chops to shut people like you up; but far more importantly wants to prove to himself that he can cement his legacy as one of Tennessee's greats.

rb4346 writes:

in response to volunteerintexas:

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In 3 years you may be eating your words. He has way more going for him than Dooley did 3 years ago, he is a classy coach and believes truly that he is going to build a winner here and that is something we want and need. He is a proven winner (even though it was not the SEC) and we need that. Miles and Urban had not been winners in the SEC either when they came into this league. I am not saying that he will be a Miles or Urban but I do believe he will be a winner at Tennessee and I will back him 100% until he proves me wrong. He was not my first choice and I did not do the hiring but we did not have to settle for someone who was turned down for another school. I may get pounded for this statement but I now believe in Coach Jones. Welcome to K-Town Coach Jones and family. Lets give the man a chnce before he is tarred and feathered. Vol fans we need to get behind him and give him a chance. GBO.

JOHNWARD4EVER writes:

in response to rolltide1962:

I believe the Vols have a coach who will get them back on track!

Thanks for the encouraging comment from a true SEC fan!,Pulling for bama agianst the irish, bring home another N.C. for the SEC. GBO VFL DIEHARD!!

Vol_in_Mich writes:

'poster-boy "republican" hair'

Funniest thing tonight!

Go Butch, repair the damage.

FWBVol writes:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

I do not care what Saugatuck thinks; I care what UT fans, players and opposing coaches & players think.

Rest assured opponents are not trembling in fear at the name “Butch Jones.” Jones could not beat Derrick Dooley. Lost to Dooley: Great qualifications be an SEC head coach. At UT??? Seiously???

Yet Hart, Cheek & the Board of Trustees hired him. Jones promises "the best staff in America," yet almost all are the crew that Dooley beat. That ain't even in the suburbs of "Best Staff."

$17,000,000 all told for this?????? Last year the Cincinnati paper quotes Jones as saying people would now know how much he wanted to be there. They now they know how much he wanted to. Does the earth move when the guy talks, or what?

"Best staff in America?” Pittman’s offensive line destroyed Jones’ defense. But Jones fires Pittman to hire the defensive coordinator whose team was beaten? Great management.
Surely Mr. Haslam did not build Pilot oil like this, or Anderson grow with executives like Cheek or Hart.

If Hart is an example of how well Southerners think, no wonder the Union won the Civil War. Certainly these Midwesterners got him---and got UT, too. The Power-T is now ridiculed from coast to coast.

Doug Dickey never held a search like this. Only Hamilton or Hart would be so inept.The "H" boys. "H Boys” sounds like a hillbilly band. Thinks like one, too.

For Hart to call Jim Tressel about the hire shows just how screwed up Hart is. But then Cheek hired Hart; what do you expect.

Very few AD’s in America are asking Bruce Pearl about potential head basketball coaches resumes. Same principle. Asking a cheater’s opinion is bad business. Tressel is still under a show cause order for cheating; the fact he says good things about Jones is NOT comforting. Frankly, it should be cause for concern.

Are there unknown clauses in Hart's contract for a huge payout, too? After all, Hamilton was paid off big to leave. Some wonder what lurks out there that may not be known, now that 25% of UT's annual $125,000,000 athletics budget is being paid to former employees; who could not cut it ethically or as coaches.

How does UT fix it?
Not on the basketball court; another Hamilton hire, who replaced Pearl, has a team that can not score 50 points in either of its last 2games.

Baseball? Delmonico, former college World Series coach fired. Hamilton's replacement comparable to Jones, took the program down. The replacement's replacement did so poorly, he apologized to the UT nation.

Swimming/diving? Uh...coach fired on a morals clause? Thanks, Hamilton.

Maybe Pat Summit’s reputation will save us, right? Uh…thanks, Hart.

Cheek is common to most of it. Hart is, too. So is Hamilton. Do Cheek and Hart have big termination money guarantees, too?

The kind of money Jones is being paid, he won’t need that, when it comes his turn.

I think very highly of Doug Dickey and the job he did in his time as the UT athletic director, but he hired one football coach...Phillip Fulmer. Yeah, he didn't conduct a search like Dave Hart did, all he did after Johnny Majors was fired (which, IMO, was the right thing to do at the time) all he did was go down the hall to the offensive coordinator's office and give him his new title.

Now if you want to talk about Doug Dickey's hires for basketball...he's the guy that fired a successful, but somewhat conservative Don DeVoe and brought in Wade Houston followed by Kevin O'Neill, Jerry Green and Buzz Peterson. The fact of the matter is Dickey was 0-for when it came to hiring basketball coaches.

Butch Jones has yet to coach one game at Tennessee, but he has more wins as a head coach than Doug Dickey did when he took the job, Bill Battle did when he took the job, Phillip Fulmer did when he took the job and Kiffn and Dooley had when they took the job.

Time will tell if he's a great, good, average or bad coach in the SEC, but give the guy a chance to at least get through spring practice to see what he offenses and defenses he installs and how the players respond to him before going postal over things. I think Butch Jones is going to surprise a lot of the negative people on this site.

wrightskyguy writes:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

I do not care what Saugatuck thinks; I care what UT fans, players and opposing coaches & players think.

Rest assured opponents are not trembling in fear at the name “Butch Jones.” Jones could not beat Derrick Dooley. Lost to Dooley: Great qualifications be an SEC head coach. At UT??? Seiously???

Yet Hart, Cheek & the Board of Trustees hired him. Jones promises "the best staff in America," yet almost all are the crew that Dooley beat. That ain't even in the suburbs of "Best Staff."

$17,000,000 all told for this?????? Last year the Cincinnati paper quotes Jones as saying people would now know how much he wanted to be there. They now they know how much he wanted to. Does the earth move when the guy talks, or what?

"Best staff in America?” Pittman’s offensive line destroyed Jones’ defense. But Jones fires Pittman to hire the defensive coordinator whose team was beaten? Great management.
Surely Mr. Haslam did not build Pilot oil like this, or Anderson grow with executives like Cheek or Hart.

If Hart is an example of how well Southerners think, no wonder the Union won the Civil War. Certainly these Midwesterners got him---and got UT, too. The Power-T is now ridiculed from coast to coast.

Doug Dickey never held a search like this. Only Hamilton or Hart would be so inept.The "H" boys. "H Boys” sounds like a hillbilly band. Thinks like one, too.

For Hart to call Jim Tressel about the hire shows just how screwed up Hart is. But then Cheek hired Hart; what do you expect.

Very few AD’s in America are asking Bruce Pearl about potential head basketball coaches resumes. Same principle. Asking a cheater’s opinion is bad business. Tressel is still under a show cause order for cheating; the fact he says good things about Jones is NOT comforting. Frankly, it should be cause for concern.

Are there unknown clauses in Hart's contract for a huge payout, too? After all, Hamilton was paid off big to leave. Some wonder what lurks out there that may not be known, now that 25% of UT's annual $125,000,000 athletics budget is being paid to former employees; who could not cut it ethically or as coaches.

How does UT fix it?
Not on the basketball court; another Hamilton hire, who replaced Pearl, has a team that can not score 50 points in either of its last 2games.

Baseball? Delmonico, former college World Series coach fired. Hamilton's replacement comparable to Jones, took the program down. The replacement's replacement did so poorly, he apologized to the UT nation.

Swimming/diving? Uh...coach fired on a morals clause? Thanks, Hamilton.

Maybe Pat Summit’s reputation will save us, right? Uh…thanks, Hart.

Cheek is common to most of it. Hart is, too. So is Hamilton. Do Cheek and Hart have big termination money guarantees, too?

The kind of money Jones is being paid, he won’t need that, when it comes his turn.

You are a very bitter person that doesn't appear to know anything about college football. Let me guess, You wanted Jon Gruden?

flatrock writes:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

I do not care what Saugatuck thinks; I care what UT fans, players and opposing coaches & players think.

Rest assured opponents are not trembling in fear at the name “Butch Jones.” Jones could not beat Derrick Dooley. Lost to Dooley: Great qualifications be an SEC head coach. At UT??? Seiously???

Yet Hart, Cheek & the Board of Trustees hired him. Jones promises "the best staff in America," yet almost all are the crew that Dooley beat. That ain't even in the suburbs of "Best Staff."

$17,000,000 all told for this?????? Last year the Cincinnati paper quotes Jones as saying people would now know how much he wanted to be there. They now they know how much he wanted to. Does the earth move when the guy talks, or what?

"Best staff in America?” Pittman’s offensive line destroyed Jones’ defense. But Jones fires Pittman to hire the defensive coordinator whose team was beaten? Great management.
Surely Mr. Haslam did not build Pilot oil like this, or Anderson grow with executives like Cheek or Hart.

If Hart is an example of how well Southerners think, no wonder the Union won the Civil War. Certainly these Midwesterners got him---and got UT, too. The Power-T is now ridiculed from coast to coast.

Doug Dickey never held a search like this. Only Hamilton or Hart would be so inept.The "H" boys. "H Boys” sounds like a hillbilly band. Thinks like one, too.

For Hart to call Jim Tressel about the hire shows just how screwed up Hart is. But then Cheek hired Hart; what do you expect.

Very few AD’s in America are asking Bruce Pearl about potential head basketball coaches resumes. Same principle. Asking a cheater’s opinion is bad business. Tressel is still under a show cause order for cheating; the fact he says good things about Jones is NOT comforting. Frankly, it should be cause for concern.

Are there unknown clauses in Hart's contract for a huge payout, too? After all, Hamilton was paid off big to leave. Some wonder what lurks out there that may not be known, now that 25% of UT's annual $125,000,000 athletics budget is being paid to former employees; who could not cut it ethically or as coaches.

How does UT fix it?
Not on the basketball court; another Hamilton hire, who replaced Pearl, has a team that can not score 50 points in either of its last 2games.

Baseball? Delmonico, former college World Series coach fired. Hamilton's replacement comparable to Jones, took the program down. The replacement's replacement did so poorly, he apologized to the UT nation.

Swimming/diving? Uh...coach fired on a morals clause? Thanks, Hamilton.

Maybe Pat Summit’s reputation will save us, right? Uh…thanks, Hart.

Cheek is common to most of it. Hart is, too. So is Hamilton. Do Cheek and Hart have big termination money guarantees, too?

The kind of money Jones is being paid, he won’t need that, when it comes his turn.

Please, get a life- and get your facts right. Pittman was not the Vols' OL coach when Derek (not Derrick) Dooley's Vols beat Cincy in 2011...Delmonico's replacement had not won anything when Hamilton hired him (based exclusively on the fact that he had once been an assistant at Hamilton's beloved Clemson)...BTW, Cuonzo Martin is playing without his best veteran and his best freshman...In only 6 seasons as a HC, Butch Jones has won more championships than Raleigh, Bruce, Gruden, Strong, Golden, Fisher and Gundy COMBINED...
Did I say get a life?

Dalton writes:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

I do not care what Saugatuck thinks; I care what UT fans, players and opposing coaches & players think.

Rest assured opponents are not trembling in fear at the name “Butch Jones.” Jones could not beat Derrick Dooley. Lost to Dooley: Great qualifications be an SEC head coach. At UT??? Seiously???

Yet Hart, Cheek & the Board of Trustees hired him. Jones promises "the best staff in America," yet almost all are the crew that Dooley beat. That ain't even in the suburbs of "Best Staff."

$17,000,000 all told for this?????? Last year the Cincinnati paper quotes Jones as saying people would now know how much he wanted to be there. They now they know how much he wanted to. Does the earth move when the guy talks, or what?

"Best staff in America?” Pittman’s offensive line destroyed Jones’ defense. But Jones fires Pittman to hire the defensive coordinator whose team was beaten? Great management.
Surely Mr. Haslam did not build Pilot oil like this, or Anderson grow with executives like Cheek or Hart.

If Hart is an example of how well Southerners think, no wonder the Union won the Civil War. Certainly these Midwesterners got him---and got UT, too. The Power-T is now ridiculed from coast to coast.

Doug Dickey never held a search like this. Only Hamilton or Hart would be so inept.The "H" boys. "H Boys” sounds like a hillbilly band. Thinks like one, too.

For Hart to call Jim Tressel about the hire shows just how screwed up Hart is. But then Cheek hired Hart; what do you expect.

Very few AD’s in America are asking Bruce Pearl about potential head basketball coaches resumes. Same principle. Asking a cheater’s opinion is bad business. Tressel is still under a show cause order for cheating; the fact he says good things about Jones is NOT comforting. Frankly, it should be cause for concern.

Are there unknown clauses in Hart's contract for a huge payout, too? After all, Hamilton was paid off big to leave. Some wonder what lurks out there that may not be known, now that 25% of UT's annual $125,000,000 athletics budget is being paid to former employees; who could not cut it ethically or as coaches.

How does UT fix it?
Not on the basketball court; another Hamilton hire, who replaced Pearl, has a team that can not score 50 points in either of its last 2games.

Baseball? Delmonico, former college World Series coach fired. Hamilton's replacement comparable to Jones, took the program down. The replacement's replacement did so poorly, he apologized to the UT nation.

Swimming/diving? Uh...coach fired on a morals clause? Thanks, Hamilton.

Maybe Pat Summit’s reputation will save us, right? Uh…thanks, Hart.

Cheek is common to most of it. Hart is, too. So is Hamilton. Do Cheek and Hart have big termination money guarantees, too?

The kind of money Jones is being paid, he won’t need that, when it comes his turn.

Uhhh...Pittman wasn't coaching the line when Tennessee blasted the Bearcats..
I'm sure everything else is spot on though Chief!

OrangeCrush writes:

in response to ANYONE_BUT_LIBS:

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Hey, build a bridge and get over it. He's here and I for one am excited about this.

You are the only loser on this page...

AlpharettaVol writes:

Volrunthru, etc:
I am not hitting reply since that would only force the site to spread your hate and venom over this site one more time. I think you are a sad bitter person who hides behind a screen name to embarrass the university. I only hope you did not really attend UT. I think the students in Knoxville are better than that. I predict you will get coals in your Christmas stocking this year and get a visit from your cousins, the Grinch and Scrooge.

Colliervol writes:

in response to TrackVol1975:

This guy is going to do well at Tennessee. I'm sorry that such a large part of the fan base seems determined to be negative, but my sense is that he will prove a lot of people wrong. Is he Nick Saban? No, but, then, Nick Saban was not Nick Saban when LSU hired him in 2000.

In fact, I remember hearing a lot of negative comments on his hiring then, and when UAB beat LSU in Baton Rouge early in the season, the howling got louder. (LSU beat Tennessee the next week, by the way.) And when Saban went 7-6 the first year at Alabama in 2007, Paul Finebaum was all over him. We know how things ultimately turned out.

So, maybe UT fans should be willing to see what happens, as opposed to already having Jones fired in three years, as I have been reading on the message boards.

Don't judge a fan base by what you read on a message board. I don't believe a majority are negative by a long stretch. Most are willing to give someone a chance. Most of the Negavols are either youngsters who think they are owed something right now or they are older never-beens who just like to whine. In either case, neither group has a clue about the work it takes to be successful.

burpee_von_rotweiler_IV writes:

My confession:

I was down on this hire. But when I read he was washing dishes at age 13 and saving his paycheck, I know everything I need to know about him and have done a complete 180. Working, saving...that speaks volumes about the man.

UT may have gotten the coaching steal of the season. I am now very optimistic.

Colliervol writes:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

I do not care what Saugatuck thinks; I care what UT fans, players and opposing coaches & players think.

Rest assured opponents are not trembling in fear at the name “Butch Jones.” Jones could not beat Derrick Dooley. Lost to Dooley: Great qualifications be an SEC head coach. At UT??? Seiously???

Yet Hart, Cheek & the Board of Trustees hired him. Jones promises "the best staff in America," yet almost all are the crew that Dooley beat. That ain't even in the suburbs of "Best Staff."

$17,000,000 all told for this?????? Last year the Cincinnati paper quotes Jones as saying people would now know how much he wanted to be there. They now they know how much he wanted to. Does the earth move when the guy talks, or what?

"Best staff in America?” Pittman’s offensive line destroyed Jones’ defense. But Jones fires Pittman to hire the defensive coordinator whose team was beaten? Great management.
Surely Mr. Haslam did not build Pilot oil like this, or Anderson grow with executives like Cheek or Hart.

If Hart is an example of how well Southerners think, no wonder the Union won the Civil War. Certainly these Midwesterners got him---and got UT, too. The Power-T is now ridiculed from coast to coast.

Doug Dickey never held a search like this. Only Hamilton or Hart would be so inept.The "H" boys. "H Boys” sounds like a hillbilly band. Thinks like one, too.

For Hart to call Jim Tressel about the hire shows just how screwed up Hart is. But then Cheek hired Hart; what do you expect.

Very few AD’s in America are asking Bruce Pearl about potential head basketball coaches resumes. Same principle. Asking a cheater’s opinion is bad business. Tressel is still under a show cause order for cheating; the fact he says good things about Jones is NOT comforting. Frankly, it should be cause for concern.

Are there unknown clauses in Hart's contract for a huge payout, too? After all, Hamilton was paid off big to leave. Some wonder what lurks out there that may not be known, now that 25% of UT's annual $125,000,000 athletics budget is being paid to former employees; who could not cut it ethically or as coaches.

How does UT fix it?
Not on the basketball court; another Hamilton hire, who replaced Pearl, has a team that can not score 50 points in either of its last 2games.

Baseball? Delmonico, former college World Series coach fired. Hamilton's replacement comparable to Jones, took the program down. The replacement's replacement did so poorly, he apologized to the UT nation.

Swimming/diving? Uh...coach fired on a morals clause? Thanks, Hamilton.

Maybe Pat Summit’s reputation will save us, right? Uh…thanks, Hart.

Cheek is common to most of it. Hart is, too. So is Hamilton. Do Cheek and Hart have big termination money guarantees, too?

The kind of money Jones is being paid, he won’t need that, when it comes his turn.

Didn't even bother to read that epistle after the first few sentences. You have no clue what went on behind the scenes. None of us did. By the accounts I read from folks who know the business pretty well, we did well getting Butch Jones and Hart handled the search professionally. All he could do is approach coaches and gauge their interest. I don't believe he could hogtie Gruden and Gundy and force them to come here. You move on if there is no interest and that's what he did. Pretty simple concept to me. Only time will tell if the hire is a good one or not and not from guesses by people like you.

Vol_in_Mich writes:

in response to greatdaysahead:

Please. Have you read anything about this man? Have you seen him speak? No, he doesn't have a southern drawl, or use near perfect grammar, or have poster-boy "republican" hair; but he came from nowhere (not now-here), speaks like my former high school math teacher/high school state-champion football head coach, and has a haircut as football coach-like as his moniker. The man exudes football coach. Everything I've seen and read about him tells me he's got the stuff, the guts, the character, the passion, and the wits of the quintessential football coach. Butch Jones was born for this. And heaven forbid a disgruntled fan like yourself would be willing to give this man who is literally building his empire your approval. Goodness knows he doesn't need yours, he got all the approval he needed from the man who gave him the pen to sign on that dotted line. Jones has earned this chance to live his dream (and part of that dream includes getting paid absurd money to do what he loves, jealous? Don't care...) and I for one am all-in. What are the alternatives? Whine until we get Gruden, who would be more likely than Kiffin was to jump ship for his dream (because I can tell you, coaching at ANY college is not his dream...)? Give up on Tennessee and cheer for Alabama? Georgia? Florida? Vanderbilt?! No thanks. I'm glad we have Butch, and I am excited to back a passionate man who wants to be here and wants to prove he's got the chops to shut people like you up; but far more importantly wants to prove to himself that he can cement his legacy as one of Tennessee's greats.

Great post, GreatDay. You have a lot of fans(?) on here that will never be happy until Fulmer comes back, ain't happening! Gruden comming to UT was a big joke. Ain't happening.
Will Butch Jones be the next Saban? Could be.
I like this guy & will support him until he gives us a reason not to. Will I agree with everytjing he does, I doubt it & nobody cares what I think anyway, but I will not bash the guy.
I did not care for Dooley from day one & let it be known. he's a loser of a coach & I never bought into the "nice guy" B.S.
Butch is a winner, will he take UT to the top of the heap? Who knows, but it WILL be fun to watch.
Just give the guy time, three or four weeks should be enough. ;-)
Give em heII, Butch

tnbigg writes:

Welcome coach. May your career here be one of great Tennessee football traditions.

Vol_in_Mich writes:

in response to andforhisnexttune:

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You're not near as funny as you think.

eduardo writes:

Dont you know fla, bama & ga r shaking in their boots! Wake up people this guy got drilled by the worst coach in UT History!!!!!!! This is SABOTAGE!!!!

Vol-TIL-I-FaLL writes:

in response to FWBVol:

I think very highly of Doug Dickey and the job he did in his time as the UT athletic director, but he hired one football coach...Phillip Fulmer. Yeah, he didn't conduct a search like Dave Hart did, all he did after Johnny Majors was fired (which, IMO, was the right thing to do at the time) all he did was go down the hall to the offensive coordinator's office and give him his new title.

Now if you want to talk about Doug Dickey's hires for basketball...he's the guy that fired a successful, but somewhat conservative Don DeVoe and brought in Wade Houston followed by Kevin O'Neill, Jerry Green and Buzz Peterson. The fact of the matter is Dickey was 0-for when it came to hiring basketball coaches.

Butch Jones has yet to coach one game at Tennessee, but he has more wins as a head coach than Doug Dickey did when he took the job, Bill Battle did when he took the job, Phillip Fulmer did when he took the job and Kiffn and Dooley had when they took the job.

Time will tell if he's a great, good, average or bad coach in the SEC, but give the guy a chance to at least get through spring practice to see what he offenses and defenses he installs and how the players respond to him before going postal over things. I think Butch Jones is going to surprise a lot of the negative people on this site.

im with you,and yea i know pittman was cool and the line was doing its job, or was it,,they could pass block but they still werent running to well,nobody knows what this staff has to offer, nor can you go by what happened elsewhere,everybody screamed strong but strong came from the same conference he jus did ,so whos better of the two , and if you say strong please show why,they split the big east,and that made everyone scream strong, well i like my new coach, and im with him, riding or walkin,so lets jus back em or back up

gobigorange5090 writes:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

I do not care what Saugatuck thinks; I care what UT fans, players and opposing coaches & players think.

Rest assured opponents are not trembling in fear at the name “Butch Jones.” Jones could not beat Derrick Dooley. Lost to Dooley: Great qualifications be an SEC head coach. At UT??? Seiously???

Yet Hart, Cheek & the Board of Trustees hired him. Jones promises "the best staff in America," yet almost all are the crew that Dooley beat. That ain't even in the suburbs of "Best Staff."

$17,000,000 all told for this?????? Last year the Cincinnati paper quotes Jones as saying people would now know how much he wanted to be there. They now they know how much he wanted to. Does the earth move when the guy talks, or what?

"Best staff in America?” Pittman’s offensive line destroyed Jones’ defense. But Jones fires Pittman to hire the defensive coordinator whose team was beaten? Great management.
Surely Mr. Haslam did not build Pilot oil like this, or Anderson grow with executives like Cheek or Hart.

If Hart is an example of how well Southerners think, no wonder the Union won the Civil War. Certainly these Midwesterners got him---and got UT, too. The Power-T is now ridiculed from coast to coast.

Doug Dickey never held a search like this. Only Hamilton or Hart would be so inept.The "H" boys. "H Boys” sounds like a hillbilly band. Thinks like one, too.

For Hart to call Jim Tressel about the hire shows just how screwed up Hart is. But then Cheek hired Hart; what do you expect.

Very few AD’s in America are asking Bruce Pearl about potential head basketball coaches resumes. Same principle. Asking a cheater’s opinion is bad business. Tressel is still under a show cause order for cheating; the fact he says good things about Jones is NOT comforting. Frankly, it should be cause for concern.

Are there unknown clauses in Hart's contract for a huge payout, too? After all, Hamilton was paid off big to leave. Some wonder what lurks out there that may not be known, now that 25% of UT's annual $125,000,000 athletics budget is being paid to former employees; who could not cut it ethically or as coaches.

How does UT fix it?
Not on the basketball court; another Hamilton hire, who replaced Pearl, has a team that can not score 50 points in either of its last 2games.

Baseball? Delmonico, former college World Series coach fired. Hamilton's replacement comparable to Jones, took the program down. The replacement's replacement did so poorly, he apologized to the UT nation.

Swimming/diving? Uh...coach fired on a morals clause? Thanks, Hamilton.

Maybe Pat Summit’s reputation will save us, right? Uh…thanks, Hart.

Cheek is common to most of it. Hart is, too. So is Hamilton. Do Cheek and Hart have big termination money guarantees, too?

The kind of money Jones is being paid, he won’t need that, when it comes his turn.

Another worthless troll!

gobigorange5090 writes:

in response to ANYONE_BUT_LIBS:

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Sorry to inform you, but you're the LOSER here!

Vol-TIL-I-FaLL writes:

and to the ones who scream he got drilled by the worst coach, well the coach isnt playng the game , so even when not being coached right , and listen to the words,a team of a lil more talent can sometimes find away to win even when the coaching is all wrong,especially at the beginning of a season when not many teams have meshed together,or if thats not logic enough for you, find another team ,miserable bunch of low self esteem ,ive never played but know the game so well a&& people

10SE writes:

in response to ANYONE_BUT_LIBS:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

Idiot! I'm still curious to know who your choice in the coaches search would have been?

Vol-TIL-I-FaLL writes:

id like to be shown where has he shown to be a looser,he didnt loose much at cincy, nor where he came before that,and he was coach not assistant,he was the coach. over seer of the team, people its the assistants that u need to worry about..see sal sensuri,whom dooley didnt know how to figure if hed be a good d coordinator,maybe linebacker coach he was good but doesnt mean he would be a good d coor. all thats the coaches job.and i really dont know why im explaining this to many that dont give a fart about what it takes jus luv the oppurtunity to be heard .in a negative way, jus as their life has always been.if any of you recall ..we lost good assistants when dooley took over ..and it wasnt his call..some wanted out on their own,and it couldve been from what they saw coming,wr coach left ,sirmon left

YORVOL writes:

I cannot believe how split the fan base is. Some of the comments since this hiring are just beyond the limits. I for one support this hire and will continue to so until this coach proves me wrong. He has many things in his favor most notably he wants to be here, that in my book goes a long way. I am not a short term fan. I have lived through the likes of Dickey, Battle, Majors, Fulmer and so forth. Do I wish we could have hired a coach with orange blood in his veins, you bet I would but none were available except for Fulmer and Chavis. We weren't going to repeat the mess from Fulmer and unfortunately we burned the bridge with Chavis when we treated him like phooey. I think it's time to move on, we have our guy. Yes, he has no SEC experience, neither did Miles, Saban, Richt or even Meyer-- all successful SEC coaches. Tennessee has allowed themselves to get to this level, it will take a man with guts and fire to bring it out of the sewers of college football, Butch Jones may be just the guy to do that. Enough with all this negative thinking and Yes the smartest thing he has done so far is get rid of the entire loosing staff except for Jay Graham. He hasn't proved me wrong yet. We had the worst defense, worst special teams so good bye and good riddance to those losers. Our offense, c'mon folks, everyone knew Chaney was a passing guy when he came here and he would not change, in the SEC you must be able to run that football up the gut and protect it. When he proves all of you nay sayers wrong I hope to see you posting on here in support of the man who has led the VOLS back to the top of the SEC.

Vol_in_Mich writes:

in response to ANYONE_BUT_LIBS:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

Hey tea party fan, he's won everywhere he's been.

Darn Butch, you should've taken the Colorado job. Great mountains & the people are a whole lot nicer than some of these whinners.
Since you decided to come to UT, welcome & good luck. I'm sure you've learned not to listen to morons.
When you get tired of their bull, come on back home, Dantonio won't be at State forever.

ps: I didn't say "tea party fan" I used another term.

frblalack writes:

for you...loser volthr&thru,

get a life!

civilianvol_formerly_marinevol writes:

in response to ANYONE_BUT_LIBS:

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If you're ever invited to parties, do you notice people cheering when you leave?

oskie_score writes:

Enjoyed the read.
Wish nothing but the best for our new coach and staff.
Look forward to the O & W gm, we'll get a look at what to expect this fall.

civilianvol_formerly_marinevol writes:

in response to Vol_in_Mich:

Hey tea party fan, he's won everywhere he's been.

Darn Butch, you should've taken the Colorado job. Great mountains & the people are a whole lot nicer than some of these whinners.
Since you decided to come to UT, welcome & good luck. I'm sure you've learned not to listen to morons.
When you get tired of their bull, come on back home, Dantonio won't be at State forever.

ps: I didn't say "tea party fan" I used another term.

Hey, the poster that calls himself/herself "ANYONE_BUT_LIBS" is not indicative of Tennessee fans. If you go on other sites that invite commentary (try Yahoo.com) and read some of the comments, you would think that the majority of Americans are stupid, mean hatemongers. I think these sites just attract people like that as a venue to spew their hatred. Hopefully, if Butch Jones or any potential recruits read this site, they realize that.

tennlions writes:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

I do not care what Saugatuck thinks; I care what UT fans, players and opposing coaches & players think.

Rest assured opponents are not trembling in fear at the name “Butch Jones.” Jones could not beat Derrick Dooley. Lost to Dooley: Great qualifications be an SEC head coach. At UT??? Seiously???

Yet Hart, Cheek & the Board of Trustees hired him. Jones promises "the best staff in America," yet almost all are the crew that Dooley beat. That ain't even in the suburbs of "Best Staff."

$17,000,000 all told for this?????? Last year the Cincinnati paper quotes Jones as saying people would now know how much he wanted to be there. They now they know how much he wanted to. Does the earth move when the guy talks, or what?

"Best staff in America?” Pittman’s offensive line destroyed Jones’ defense. But Jones fires Pittman to hire the defensive coordinator whose team was beaten? Great management.
Surely Mr. Haslam did not build Pilot oil like this, or Anderson grow with executives like Cheek or Hart.

If Hart is an example of how well Southerners think, no wonder the Union won the Civil War. Certainly these Midwesterners got him---and got UT, too. The Power-T is now ridiculed from coast to coast.

Doug Dickey never held a search like this. Only Hamilton or Hart would be so inept.The "H" boys. "H Boys” sounds like a hillbilly band. Thinks like one, too.

For Hart to call Jim Tressel about the hire shows just how screwed up Hart is. But then Cheek hired Hart; what do you expect.

Very few AD’s in America are asking Bruce Pearl about potential head basketball coaches resumes. Same principle. Asking a cheater’s opinion is bad business. Tressel is still under a show cause order for cheating; the fact he says good things about Jones is NOT comforting. Frankly, it should be cause for concern.

Are there unknown clauses in Hart's contract for a huge payout, too? After all, Hamilton was paid off big to leave. Some wonder what lurks out there that may not be known, now that 25% of UT's annual $125,000,000 athletics budget is being paid to former employees; who could not cut it ethically or as coaches.

How does UT fix it?
Not on the basketball court; another Hamilton hire, who replaced Pearl, has a team that can not score 50 points in either of its last 2games.

Baseball? Delmonico, former college World Series coach fired. Hamilton's replacement comparable to Jones, took the program down. The replacement's replacement did so poorly, he apologized to the UT nation.

Swimming/diving? Uh...coach fired on a morals clause? Thanks, Hamilton.

Maybe Pat Summit’s reputation will save us, right? Uh…thanks, Hart.

Cheek is common to most of it. Hart is, too. So is Hamilton. Do Cheek and Hart have big termination money guarantees, too?

The kind of money Jones is being paid, he won’t need that, when it comes his turn.

Look at this everybody...the truest definition of a moronic hypocrite. The moron part comes from the fact that this individual spouts information, calls it factual and doesn't even bother to make sure it's accurate (or doesn't even care). The hypocrite part comes from the use of the screenname. This person is only a "fan" of UT so they can stand around and bash everything about the school. This piece of trash is not representative of the good, realistic fans who take the time to post intelligent, thought out information.

greatdaysahead writes:

in response to Vol_in_Mich:

Great post, GreatDay. You have a lot of fans(?) on here that will never be happy until Fulmer comes back, ain't happening! Gruden comming to UT was a big joke. Ain't happening.
Will Butch Jones be the next Saban? Could be.
I like this guy & will support him until he gives us a reason not to. Will I agree with everytjing he does, I doubt it & nobody cares what I think anyway, but I will not bash the guy.
I did not care for Dooley from day one & let it be known. he's a loser of a coach & I never bought into the "nice guy" B.S.
Butch is a winner, will he take UT to the top of the heap? Who knows, but it WILL be fun to watch.
Just give the guy time, three or four weeks should be enough. ;-)
Give em heII, Butch

Thanks. I'm on the same page completely, except I will admit I did like Dooley in the beginning.

On the topic of Saban, I think it is fair to say that he only won 1 conference championship (at Toledo) as head coach before heading to the SEC. Les Miles had absolutely zero championships as head coach (the highest he ever ranked in-conference prior to SEC was 3rd) before moving to the SEC, and the same goes for Mark Richt.

These folks who don't seem impressed with Butch Jones' body of work should really by unimpressed by today's SEC leaders. By the pre-SEC coaching metric, Jones is ahead of the curve by a mile with 4 conference championships.

I'll second your final words: GIVE 'EM HELL, COACH JONES!!

Doves writes:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

I do not care what Saugatuck thinks; I care what UT fans, players and opposing coaches & players think.

Rest assured opponents are not trembling in fear at the name “Butch Jones.” Jones could not beat Derrick Dooley. Lost to Dooley: Great qualifications be an SEC head coach. At UT??? Seiously???

Yet Hart, Cheek & the Board of Trustees hired him. Jones promises "the best staff in America," yet almost all are the crew that Dooley beat. That ain't even in the suburbs of "Best Staff."

$17,000,000 all told for this?????? Last year the Cincinnati paper quotes Jones as saying people would now know how much he wanted to be there. They now they know how much he wanted to. Does the earth move when the guy talks, or what?

"Best staff in America?” Pittman’s offensive line destroyed Jones’ defense. But Jones fires Pittman to hire the defensive coordinator whose team was beaten? Great management.
Surely Mr. Haslam did not build Pilot oil like this, or Anderson grow with executives like Cheek or Hart.

If Hart is an example of how well Southerners think, no wonder the Union won the Civil War. Certainly these Midwesterners got him---and got UT, too. The Power-T is now ridiculed from coast to coast.

Doug Dickey never held a search like this. Only Hamilton or Hart would be so inept.The "H" boys. "H Boys” sounds like a hillbilly band. Thinks like one, too.

For Hart to call Jim Tressel about the hire shows just how screwed up Hart is. But then Cheek hired Hart; what do you expect.

Very few AD’s in America are asking Bruce Pearl about potential head basketball coaches resumes. Same principle. Asking a cheater’s opinion is bad business. Tressel is still under a show cause order for cheating; the fact he says good things about Jones is NOT comforting. Frankly, it should be cause for concern.

Are there unknown clauses in Hart's contract for a huge payout, too? After all, Hamilton was paid off big to leave. Some wonder what lurks out there that may not be known, now that 25% of UT's annual $125,000,000 athletics budget is being paid to former employees; who could not cut it ethically or as coaches.

How does UT fix it?
Not on the basketball court; another Hamilton hire, who replaced Pearl, has a team that can not score 50 points in either of its last 2games.

Baseball? Delmonico, former college World Series coach fired. Hamilton's replacement comparable to Jones, took the program down. The replacement's replacement did so poorly, he apologized to the UT nation.

Swimming/diving? Uh...coach fired on a morals clause? Thanks, Hamilton.

Maybe Pat Summit’s reputation will save us, right? Uh…thanks, Hart.

Cheek is common to most of it. Hart is, too. So is Hamilton. Do Cheek and Hart have big termination money guarantees, too?

The kind of money Jones is being paid, he won’t need that, when it comes his turn.

I thought that it was crazy to hire Derek Dooley. (The first BCS champion hiring a coach with a losing record at Louisiana Tech? Are you kidding me?)

To replace Dooley, I thought that Chris Petersen at Boise State should have at least gotten a phone call. Make him say "No".

If not Petersen, then Chavis or Fulmer would have been preferable to Jones, in my opinion.

But, I am very willing to give this guy a chance and to support him. He has done reasonably well in his career, and the last four years at UT are not his fault.

Having said all that, I think that volthrunthru#658770 has issues. There is such a thing as being "over the top".

TKO writes:

You heard it from TKO first. Big John Chavis is headed to Knoxville as I write this. Literally.

allvol32 writes:

I wasn't familiar with Coach Jones before he became the new UT football coach but it didn't take long to figure out that this guy is a good choice based solely on his profesional record.

Subsequent to this I was able to listen to his press conference, his first team meeting and read more about his background outside of football and the more that I find out about this guy the more I think that he will turn out to be an excellent hire.

I am frankly embarrassed by the albeit small number of posters who are so negative concerning our new coach. These guys cast a negative light on one of the best fan bases in the country.

I know it may be tough for you guys since you seem to live to post your unwelcome negative thoughts online but do you think it might be possible for you to take a wait and see attitude before spouting your bile on this UT oriented website?

OrangePride writes:

Great, great article. I always like to read the human interest side of people; it tells me a lot! And I feel the tone shifting around town. Many who were skeptical (some downright angry and disappointed) are now feeling much more positive about this hire. In fact, I am now of a mind that perhaps we may have turned a broken bat single into an extra base hit. I hope we all give the coach the kind of support and time he needs to resurrect this team and program. And just for fun, wouldn't it be great to have Louisville on the 2014 schedule?? I'd sure pay money to see those guys show up here in Knoxville!! GO COACH JONES!!

Doves writes:

in response to TKO:

You heard it from TKO first. Big John Chavis is headed to Knoxville as I write this. Literally.

After the last few weeks, I don't believe any of the reports until confirmed in person by the one involved.

But....

That would be great if that ends up being the case. (And I wouldn't mind if Steve Caldwell and a few others from Fulmer's staff came as well.)

OrangePride writes:

in response to TKO:

You heard it from TKO first. Big John Chavis is headed to Knoxville as I write this. Literally.

From you're computer to God's ears, brother! How much energy would go back into this program and fan base if THAT were to actually happen?? But hey....as the coach said....get them here on campus and we have a GREAT chance to be successful.

OrangePride writes:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

I do not care what Saugatuck thinks; I care what UT fans, players and opposing coaches & players think.

Rest assured opponents are not trembling in fear at the name “Butch Jones.” Jones could not beat Derrick Dooley. Lost to Dooley: Great qualifications be an SEC head coach. At UT??? Seiously???

Yet Hart, Cheek & the Board of Trustees hired him. Jones promises "the best staff in America," yet almost all are the crew that Dooley beat. That ain't even in the suburbs of "Best Staff."

$17,000,000 all told for this?????? Last year the Cincinnati paper quotes Jones as saying people would now know how much he wanted to be there. They now they know how much he wanted to. Does the earth move when the guy talks, or what?

"Best staff in America?” Pittman’s offensive line destroyed Jones’ defense. But Jones fires Pittman to hire the defensive coordinator whose team was beaten? Great management.
Surely Mr. Haslam did not build Pilot oil like this, or Anderson grow with executives like Cheek or Hart.

If Hart is an example of how well Southerners think, no wonder the Union won the Civil War. Certainly these Midwesterners got him---and got UT, too. The Power-T is now ridiculed from coast to coast.

Doug Dickey never held a search like this. Only Hamilton or Hart would be so inept.The "H" boys. "H Boys” sounds like a hillbilly band. Thinks like one, too.

For Hart to call Jim Tressel about the hire shows just how screwed up Hart is. But then Cheek hired Hart; what do you expect.

Very few AD’s in America are asking Bruce Pearl about potential head basketball coaches resumes. Same principle. Asking a cheater’s opinion is bad business. Tressel is still under a show cause order for cheating; the fact he says good things about Jones is NOT comforting. Frankly, it should be cause for concern.

Are there unknown clauses in Hart's contract for a huge payout, too? After all, Hamilton was paid off big to leave. Some wonder what lurks out there that may not be known, now that 25% of UT's annual $125,000,000 athletics budget is being paid to former employees; who could not cut it ethically or as coaches.

How does UT fix it?
Not on the basketball court; another Hamilton hire, who replaced Pearl, has a team that can not score 50 points in either of its last 2games.

Baseball? Delmonico, former college World Series coach fired. Hamilton's replacement comparable to Jones, took the program down. The replacement's replacement did so poorly, he apologized to the UT nation.

Swimming/diving? Uh...coach fired on a morals clause? Thanks, Hamilton.

Maybe Pat Summit’s reputation will save us, right? Uh…thanks, Hart.

Cheek is common to most of it. Hart is, too. So is Hamilton. Do Cheek and Hart have big termination money guarantees, too?

The kind of money Jones is being paid, he won’t need that, when it comes his turn.

Yes....and a Very Merry Christmas to you as well. I'm always amazed at how someone like you can look at people and come to such bitter, uninformed conclusions in so brief a time. Yes, yes....we all know Tenn beat Cincy and coach Jones. First, it was here. Big advantage. Second, we were healthy and had far more weapons....not to mention a DC who knew what he was doing. Bottom line, the man has had 4 championships in his career and the respect of many, many knowledgable football people. So now enlighten us as to YOUR credentials. What's your background and expertise?? I am willing to bet, the closest you have ever come to real football field is the nosebleeds with a chilidog in hand! Change your screen name, you don't deserve the label.

BearGapVol73 writes:

Sgt Vince Carter, USMC

AllVol1 writes:

Like the man. Like Dooley as a man.

He has an impressive coaching resume.
Better than Dooley's.

Hopefully CBJ has that something that can help this team go from underachievers to overachievers. Jones needs that in order to win back the excitement from the fan base and to climb the steep recruiting hill he faces in the SEC.

Yes, UT has a world-class stadium and facilities. That's something to build on. But UT must overcome the stigma of SEC losers, of high coaching turnover, of lack of relevance for ten years. If UT can slay a couple of goliaths and pull some recruiting coups in the next year and a half, then the momentum and buzz will shift.

And I appreciate that CBJ took the responsibility in his press conference. Rather than ask for a couple of seasons for his system to be in place and for the players to fit into it, he said that he will mold his system to fit the players. That was Butch Jones. (Not Dooley.)

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