With Tee Martin out, where will the Vols turn for WR coach?

Tennessee head football coach Butch Jones talks with the media during a press conference in the Peyton Manning Locker Room Complex at Neyland Stadium Friday, Dec. 7, 2012. (ADAM BRIMER/NEWS SENTINEL)

Photo by Adam Brimer, Knoxville News Sentinel

Tennessee head football coach Butch Jones talks with the media during a press conference in the Peyton Manning Locker Room Complex at Neyland Stadium Friday, Dec. 7, 2012. (ADAM BRIMER/NEWS SENTINEL)

KNOXVILLE - It's the only position left to fill on Butch Jones' first staff as Tennessee head football coach.

That means, of course, that we will spend an inordinate amount of time dissecting the vacant wide receiver position, especially in the wake of Tee Martin's decision to decline an offer from UT to remain at Southern California.

We don't know what Butch Jones is thinking, so this post is largely speculative. But to inform our list, let's take a look at the attributes Martin would have brought the staff....

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hereandthere writes:

Might get Joker from FL except that he can now get a BCS ring after going 2 - 10 in Lexington.

6972 writes:

Could we get someone to coach the position who has actually played the position? Tn has had a great history of being wide reciever U. If none of those greats are interested, I still hope the coach has the position experience. That just seems fundamental to me. How does one coach something well, that one has never done.

SummerfieldVol writes:

I would be looking for someone that had been a receiver before. I would look at a team that has a passing attack like SMU,BYU,and Washington St, just a few of the schools that have to have a good or excellent receiver coach because they are primarily a passing team.

Damitman writes:

in response to 6972:

Could we get someone to coach the position who has actually played the position? Tn has had a great history of being wide reciever U. If none of those greats are interested, I still hope the coach has the position experience. That just seems fundamental to me. How does one coach something well, that one has never done.

And the person who turned UT into wide reciver U was a quarterback in high school. But don't think Kippy will be looking to Tennessee anymore. Hamilton sure gave him a very raw deal!!

PUL4VOLS writes:

I raise my hand, "Coach, I'll do it and cheap." I have played receiver in intramurals and bring a lot of enthusiasm. Nah, I don't think so. There are plenty of WR coaches out there, yeah many of us would have loved to see Tee. But he said no, so we move on and have to trust whomever the head coach and co. come up with. My guess is whomever it is will be looking at new blood to reel in passes,as the top two Vol pass catchers are most likely gone.

thevoice writes:

Drew Bennett

albert63 writes:

Ron Zook is available.

Orangeblood64 writes:

Stupid. We have talked about T Martin enough. let's move on.

VFL84 writes:

Trooper Taylor

albert63 writes:

Chad Ocho Cinco

BrassMonkey writes:

Get ready for UT to enter the Big East era of football.

85sugar writes:

Randy Sanders. A VFL and Good recruitor. We need to mend that bridge,

Colliervol writes:

I'll let Butch make the choice. He's the one getting paid the big bucks.

On a separate note, this from Robert Smith of ESPN:

Robert Smith of ESPN's "College Football Live" called Tennessee's hiring of Butch Jones the best in college football in the 2012 offseason. Here's what Smith had to say on the show on Tuesday.

"My top hire this offseason is Butch Jones at Tennessee. From the bottom up, he's really going to be helpful at Tennessee, a school that hasn't seen any type of stability over the last five years. I think they made the right choice in Butch Jones. I had an opportunity to sit down with him when he was at Central Michigan and when he was at Cincinnati. He knows how to build from the foundation of a program. Everything from the way a kid goes to class, to the way they carry themselves, to the pride they have in their school. It's not like Tennessee hasn't had a dearth of talent. They just haven't had the right people to get the talent doing the things they are supposed to do. I think Butch Jones is going to do a great job with that. Obviously, playing the SEC, it's difficult to jump in and make a change right away. I think it's going to take a couple of years, but I think he's the type of guy that will get that place turned around. He's the right person to get Tennessee going the right way."

I think I'll take the opinion of someone who has actually played the game at a big time school over some of the basement dwellers on here. You know, the ones where the closest they've been to football is their Madden video game.

rollonbeagles writes:

Yep. Let's forget Tee and move on.

62vol writes:

Was Martin ever more than sports hype to promote sports media interest? Even Butch Jones referred to Martin as a great coach when preseed by the media when he had first contact with them. I think he was fooled into believing the Vol Nation had some deep heart-felt ties to Martin and he wanted to be politically correct. Recruiting ability is where we could have used Martin. Wide receiver is not the hardest position to coach. It is time for Butch to beat the bushes for that "greatest coaching staff". Now, how is it that he is bringing so many from Cincy to create the greatest coaching staff? Huh? Huh?
Hopefully, Jones settles down to work to select a defensive staff that is even in the top 20. Keep it real.

mtthw741 writes:

in response to 85sugar:

Randy Sanders. A VFL and Good recruitor. We need to mend that bridge,

I agree.

MR_VOL writes:

I heard Kippy Brown's name on WVLT last night. He is currently the receivers coach with the Seahawks.

I will give Coach Jones credit as he is trying to bring back former VOLS. Personally, I do not care if the new coach is a former VOL or not so long as he can coach.

orangecountyvols writes:

Vols,

The above two trolls are like a double header in baseball.............twin bill.
they are kinda' like Glenn Ford, aka Karl Kremser.........the foible guy, and one other.........take your pick, Billy the kid, or maybe Walt, etc.

Looks like it's gonna' be a long year's worth of trolls and whiners, just waiting for the 2013 season.

Curious.........to know the % of trolls and the real Vols on this site. Maybe the KNS needs a poll regarding this.

rtrchatt writes:

That is a very impressive list of guys hoping to join the best coaching staff in college fb.
I imagine the guy with those DUI charges would be a big hit with parents sitting around the kitchen table.

Colliervol writes:

in response to 9willbesofine:

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Hence what I said about the basement dwellers and their Madden video games. Perfect example.

jt45 writes:

in response to Colliervol:

I'll let Butch make the choice. He's the one getting paid the big bucks.

On a separate note, this from Robert Smith of ESPN:

Robert Smith of ESPN's "College Football Live" called Tennessee's hiring of Butch Jones the best in college football in the 2012 offseason. Here's what Smith had to say on the show on Tuesday.

"My top hire this offseason is Butch Jones at Tennessee. From the bottom up, he's really going to be helpful at Tennessee, a school that hasn't seen any type of stability over the last five years. I think they made the right choice in Butch Jones. I had an opportunity to sit down with him when he was at Central Michigan and when he was at Cincinnati. He knows how to build from the foundation of a program. Everything from the way a kid goes to class, to the way they carry themselves, to the pride they have in their school. It's not like Tennessee hasn't had a dearth of talent. They just haven't had the right people to get the talent doing the things they are supposed to do. I think Butch Jones is going to do a great job with that. Obviously, playing the SEC, it's difficult to jump in and make a change right away. I think it's going to take a couple of years, but I think he's the type of guy that will get that place turned around. He's the right person to get Tennessee going the right way."

I think I'll take the opinion of someone who has actually played the game at a big time school over some of the basement dwellers on here. You know, the ones where the closest they've been to football is their Madden video game.

Good post.

Ayres_Hall writes:

Are we the only fanbase who brings up the same ol' worn out coaching names year after year? Kippy Brown? Really?

edee writes:

another O HI 0??????

StoneJackBaller writes:

Tee Martin didn't come to UT because while he was on his way here, Lane Kiffin called him and offered him $500k per year to stay. We offered $350k and he said thanks, but no thanks. Money talks. BS walks.

tnoutlaw2001#228008 writes:

in response to 6972:

Could we get someone to coach the position who has actually played the position? Tn has had a great history of being wide reciever U. If none of those greats are interested, I still hope the coach has the position experience. That just seems fundamental to me. How does one coach something well, that one has never done.

According to the list they have one on there:

Thomas "T.D." Woods: He was an All-SEC receiver for the Vols in 1988-1989 and was an assistant under David Cutcliffe at Ole Miss from 2001-2005. Most recently he was receivers coach at Tulane from 2007-2012. The Gallatin native has recruited the South his entire career.

Looks like a nice candidate, UT connection, Cutcliffe connection. Recruited south forever.

tnoutlaw2001#228008 writes:

in response to 62vol:

Was Martin ever more than sports hype to promote sports media interest? Even Butch Jones referred to Martin as a great coach when preseed by the media when he had first contact with them. I think he was fooled into believing the Vol Nation had some deep heart-felt ties to Martin and he wanted to be politically correct. Recruiting ability is where we could have used Martin. Wide receiver is not the hardest position to coach. It is time for Butch to beat the bushes for that "greatest coaching staff". Now, how is it that he is bringing so many from Cincy to create the greatest coaching staff? Huh? Huh?
Hopefully, Jones settles down to work to select a defensive staff that is even in the top 20. Keep it real.

Any UT fan knows Tee was QB of our 98 National championship team why would fans not like him?

He is listed as a great recruiter not only locally but nationally by several people who play and coach football.

He is coaching at a top 25 program USC, yeah they may be down, but its not like he's getting hype for being at Western Kentucky, he's actually coaching at a premiere Div. 1 school. Plus even though Kentucky is not all that great it is an SEC school, so he has coached in the SEC and now USC.

The Cincy staff has 4 conference championships in 6 years, name another program better? Name them, since you mention this, I want to know who these superpowers are and who these coaches are that are available for the taking?

Your post reeks of someone trying too hard to bash someone for an unknown reason without any real valid information.

Lakers writes:

Hey what about the guy Butch trusted to be his recruiting coordinator at UC - TJ Weist. He played WR at Alabama!! Where is the loyalty in this business??

6972 writes:

in response to tnoutlaw2001#228008:

According to the list they have one on there:

Thomas "T.D." Woods: He was an All-SEC receiver for the Vols in 1988-1989 and was an assistant under David Cutcliffe at Ole Miss from 2001-2005. Most recently he was receivers coach at Tulane from 2007-2012. The Gallatin native has recruited the South his entire career.

Looks like a nice candidate, UT connection, Cutcliffe connection. Recruited south forever.

Interesting. Thanks.

Glentenn writes:

in response to Lakers:

Hey what about the guy Butch trusted to be his recruiting coordinator at UC - TJ Weist. He played WR at Alabama!! Where is the loyalty in this business??

I think Butch has been very loyal to his staff. He's brought over 5 guys from Cincy. TJ Weist does look like a very good coach but it looks like all his recruiting ties are in Michigan and Ohio. We need more coverage in South Florida and Georgia. Lot easier to jump start recruiting there if you already have relationships with the coaches at the high schools.

snafu14u#241639 writes:

I'm not worried about having the "best coaching staff" in college football but a great staff with no weak links. The requirements 1) contact every high school coach between Knoxville and American Samoa and let them know UT is going to take care of their kids. 2) the staff needs to keep their collective noses/mouths/etc clean. Know the NCAA rules and abide by them. 3) teach and coach up the fundamentals of great football...everyday to every athlete. 4) be prepared for every practice and game. Good game day decisions and great half time adjustments. 5) last and not least practice what you preach and set a high standard for yourself and the position you coach...own it. Don't need big time names or sexy hires, they don't hurt, but good people are good people regardless of where they come from. Go Vols...Big Orange. Bonzaivol

usnavyvolfan__times_free_press_can_shove_it writes:

in response to rtrchatt:

That is a very impressive list of guys hoping to join the best coaching staff in college fb.
I imagine the guy with those DUI charges would be a big hit with parents sitting around the kitchen table.

Yeah, should've gone after a choir boy like Mike Price....wait, what?

mongobfairchild writes:

in response to Colliervol:

I'll let Butch make the choice. He's the one getting paid the big bucks.

On a separate note, this from Robert Smith of ESPN:

Robert Smith of ESPN's "College Football Live" called Tennessee's hiring of Butch Jones the best in college football in the 2012 offseason. Here's what Smith had to say on the show on Tuesday.

"My top hire this offseason is Butch Jones at Tennessee. From the bottom up, he's really going to be helpful at Tennessee, a school that hasn't seen any type of stability over the last five years. I think they made the right choice in Butch Jones. I had an opportunity to sit down with him when he was at Central Michigan and when he was at Cincinnati. He knows how to build from the foundation of a program. Everything from the way a kid goes to class, to the way they carry themselves, to the pride they have in their school. It's not like Tennessee hasn't had a dearth of talent. They just haven't had the right people to get the talent doing the things they are supposed to do. I think Butch Jones is going to do a great job with that. Obviously, playing the SEC, it's difficult to jump in and make a change right away. I think it's going to take a couple of years, but I think he's the type of guy that will get that place turned around. He's the right person to get Tennessee going the right way."

I think I'll take the opinion of someone who has actually played the game at a big time school over some of the basement dwellers on here. You know, the ones where the closest they've been to football is their Madden video game.

Finally! A Vol fan who actually makes sense.

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to albert63:

Ron Zook is available.

Uhhh, if you're an FU troll RZ was chosen as your HC, this is a lowly positions coach.

pingkr62 writes:

How about Jeff Flowers. He would be an excellent choice. First, His pop actually played W/R. Second, It's obvious he would be the coach who already knows everything, so training wouldn't be a problem, and finally, hiring him to coach W/R would give him something to do, and get him away from his beloved keyboard. G.B.O.!!!

pingkr62 writes:

in response to tnoutlaw2001#228008:

According to the list they have one on there:

Thomas "T.D." Woods: He was an All-SEC receiver for the Vols in 1988-1989 and was an assistant under David Cutcliffe at Ole Miss from 2001-2005. Most recently he was receivers coach at Tulane from 2007-2012. The Gallatin native has recruited the South his entire career.

Looks like a nice candidate, UT connection, Cutcliffe connection. Recruited south forever.

T.D. Woods would be a great choice. G.B.O.!!!

rlengland4 writes:

Butch Jones said he wanted to reach out to former players as potential assistants. I agree TD Woods would make an excellent addition. He has SEC experience as an assistant and has recruited in the south (with one arm tied behind his back at Ole Miss and Tulane) Not to mention he is an ALL-SEC reciever that knows what it means to wear the big orange. He's also from middle Tennessee and should be able to help stop the out of state recruit bleeding.

ONUV writes:

Matt Lubick

spvol writes:

in response to Ayres_Hall:

Are we the only fanbase who brings up the same ol' worn out coaching names year after year? Kippy Brown? Really?

Worn out? He's coaching WR's in the NFL.

jt45 writes:

in response to snafu14u#241639:

I'm not worried about having the "best coaching staff" in college football but a great staff with no weak links. The requirements 1) contact every high school coach between Knoxville and American Samoa and let them know UT is going to take care of their kids. 2) the staff needs to keep their collective noses/mouths/etc clean. Know the NCAA rules and abide by them. 3) teach and coach up the fundamentals of great football...everyday to every athlete. 4) be prepared for every practice and game. Good game day decisions and great half time adjustments. 5) last and not least practice what you preach and set a high standard for yourself and the position you coach...own it. Don't need big time names or sexy hires, they don't hurt, but good people are good people regardless of where they come from. Go Vols...Big Orange. Bonzaivol

Good points and from many reports seems to be how CBJ has coached throughout his young career. If he stays the course UT will be in fine shape in a couple of years. Its time the Vols got some players who are proud of their state and proud to be a part of The University of Tennessee football team. I think too often players are recruited only by their Star rankings with little thought to character or if they really want to accomplish anything before they finish school.

Vol43 writes:

in response to thevoice:

Drew Bennett

I'll tell you what. Drew is a CLASS act. If he's as good a coach as he is a person, bring it on!

golfman1975 writes:

in response to BrassMonkey:

Get ready for UT to enter the Big East era of football.

BrassMonkey has a brass brain. When we get the program turned around the bus will have left the station and you have no ticket.

golfman1975 writes:

in response to 9willbesofine:

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Your opinion is like arses...everyone has one. How long ago did we enter the big least? Dont dance around the issue...produce with no excuse...

10seVol85_Part_Deux writes:

in response to StoneJackBaller:

Tee Martin didn't come to UT because while he was on his way here, Lane Kiffin called him and offered him $500k per year to stay. We offered $350k and he said thanks, but no thanks. Money talks. BS walks.

If that were so, then Tee is pretty stupid. $350K in Knoxville is the equivalent of about $560K or so in LA dollars. I don't think that even takes into account the additional take-home money you get in Tennessee, because there's no state income tax. Federal tax rates don't care which state you live in either, so you're going to pay more federal income tax on $500K than you will on $350K too. Even if it does take the state income tax into account, the $350K at UT is worth a substantial amount more than the $500K at USC.

10seVol85_Part_Deux writes:

in response to 9willbesofine:

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Not nearly as long ago as when Kentucky entered the era of FCS football, 9willbesometime.

BolivrBob writes:

I'm about T'd off/out. Bring in tbe best recruiter you can find. Love T but he ain't all that. We can do better. I like both coordinators. The two Auburn hires for the roles they will play, especially recruiting, I like too. Hopeful and haven't been for a while.

Theo writes:

in response to 85sugar:

Randy Sanders. A VFL and Good recruitor. We need to mend that bridge,

You have lost your mind. He is almost single handedly the reason Fulmer was fired. He was a horrible OC and there is no reason to think he would be a good coach of anything. I am not a student of football just a fan and even I could tell you what the offense was going to do next when Sanders was the OC.

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to BolivrBob:

I'm about T'd off/out. Bring in tbe best recruiter you can find. Love T but he ain't all that. We can do better. I like both coordinators. The two Auburn hires for the roles they will play, especially recruiting, I like too. Hopeful and haven't been for a while.

At least you didn't chime in to tell us how we should feel..Perception is reality, and so forth..P:0ut Vol Bro.

Tennfan4075 writes:

in response to 85sugar:

Randy Sanders. A VFL and Good recruitor. We need to mend that bridge,

That is not a bad idea.

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to Tennfan4075:

That is not a bad idea.

Are you people crazy??..RS IMO was the main reason CPF was eventually fired..Apparently Sanders didn't learn squat from Cutcliffe all those years. UT's offense starting with the SECCG in 98' began sputtering and it's no doubt that Sanders' horrid play-calling was a major reason. The man hasn't developed QB's either. That 2005 team was quite possibly the worst coached offensive unit ever assembled at UT.

gc_scvol writes:

in response to 9willbesofine:

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9 will be so fine as in # of wins for yucky this year. I believe they can win 9 games if Cal can find some way to cheat. Also, you seem to be rather fond of the monkey. Little left handed there little boy.

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