Trae Golden not in starting lineup

Tennessee guard Trae Golden (11) shoots the ball during the first half against Georgia at Thompson-Boling Arena Saturday, Feb. 4, 2012.  (ADAM BRIMER/NEWS SENTINEL)

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Tennessee guard Trae Golden (11) shoots the ball during the first half against Georgia at Thompson-Boling Arena Saturday, Feb. 4, 2012. (ADAM BRIMER/NEWS SENTINEL)

Tennessee coach Cuonzo Martin is changing the starting lineup again, and this time it's sophomore point guard Trae Golden to the bench.

Junior Skylar McBee was in the starting lineup in Saturday night's game against Georgia. The move likely means Josh Richardson will be playing at point guard.

It's the Vols' fourth different starting lineup of the season. UT plays host to Georgia at Thompson-Boling Arena.

Golden had started the previous 22 games for UT and leads Tennessee with 12.8 points per game. Over the past three games, however, Golden has three assists and seven turnovers.

The lineup change leaves Jeronne Maymon and Cameron Tatum as the only players to start in every game this season.

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newportvol writes:

What? I would of benched Cam tatum b4 Golden.. Why does it seem Cam has been part of this team for 10 years...

FanNotSheep writes:

As long as somebody brings the ball across the timeline. Point guard has been a weak point for a while, hasn't it? I remember when 6'8" J.P. Prince took a turn at it.

HtownVol writes:

Great idea. Bench our only half PG for a guy that is not a great ball handler.

14-19 UGA.

McBee misses his first 2 shots then hits one... Toss up, Golden isnt really lighting it up.

newportvol writes:

in response to FanNotSheep:

As long as somebody brings the ball across the timeline. Point guard has been a weak point for a while, hasn't it? I remember when 6'8" J.P. Prince took a turn at it.

bobby maze was pretty good

HtownVol writes:

Woolridge knocks down 5 3's at Rupp then comes in tonight and misses his first shot from about 30 inches from the rim.

Maybe Golden sat because Martin has seen something that travel he just commited was pretty bad.

I do see UGA guards toying with McBee.

HtownVol writes:

So far it is 20-16 UGA and UGS can NOT guard Maymon. Yet Maymon has touched the ball in the paint 2 times.
Is it due to not seeing what we have or just not being able to pass the ball effectively?

lomas98 writes:

in response to HtownVol:

Woolridge knocks down 5 3's at Rupp then comes in tonight and misses his first shot from about 30 inches from the rim.

Maybe Golden sat because Martin has seen something that travel he just commited was pretty bad.

I do see UGA guards toying with McBee.

The latter is more like the Woolridge we know. Once every 2 years he will have a good game. Kansas 2 years ago and KY on Tuesday.

Ironcity writes:

in response to HtownVol:

So far it is 20-16 UGA and UGS can NOT guard Maymon. Yet Maymon has touched the ball in the paint 2 times.
Is it due to not seeing what we have or just not being able to pass the ball effectively?

Your right and our coach decided not to start a PG. We are ahead but thats in spite of our coach. Its nice to see the team push the ball a little. They struggled with it but you can't run the offense we run without a few transition baskets.

I have to say I have not seen basketball this putrid to watch since O'neal was our coach. Was going to come up to a game this year but decided to save my money. Whats the odds we get to 60 tonight?

Stokes44yrs writes:

Our bigs wore out their bigs. AND surprise! Our guards wore out theirs. INCLUDING McBee.

J. McRae looked great. Tatum good defense. Golden was a good point tonight. McBee you hang in there buddy.

Good game. I love to see opposing coaches get kicked out.hehe

Stokes44yrs writes:

in response to 10seVol85:

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Yeah. Some of those inside fouls MAY not have been called in his gym. IF I remember correctly their bigs mugged our bigs down Ga. way. It was a good tough matchup both places and Stokes is better for it. He knows now that NO games gonna be easy in the SEC. Not this year anyways!(Actually even outside the SEC lol)

johnlg00#206211 writes:

in response to HtownVol:

So far it is 20-16 UGA and UGS can NOT guard Maymon. Yet Maymon has touched the ball in the paint 2 times.
Is it due to not seeing what we have or just not being able to pass the ball effectively?

The poor quality and low number of passes into the post has been a major problem for this team all year. I saw several instances last night where a perimeter player looked into the post, saw a post man with his man sealed at least halfway down the lane, and just took it the other way. I don't know exactly how Martin conducts film study with the players, but I would be stopping it about 15 times a game to ask the ball-handler just what he thought he was seeing that he didn't think it was a good idea to go to one of the only two guys on the team--Maymon and Stokes--that are LEAST likely to do something stupid with the ball. They nearly all seem either not to have been taught, or have not learned, how to move to improve their passing angles into the post. It just doesn't seem to be a high enough priority for the perimeter guys, and this needs to change. Even if a few of those passes leads to a turnover, a turnover in the post is less likely to result in a run-out for the other team and at least the attempt has been made to do the right thing.

johnlg00#206211 writes:

in response to 10seVol85:

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Everybody is going to double-team our posts. They are getting better at passing out of those situations and the perimeter players get better shots if they go inside first, since few of them can work to get good shots on their own. There should never be a possession where the first look should not be into the post, even if it takes the first 25 seconds on the shot clock.

Stokes44yrs writes:

in response to johnlg00#206211:

Everybody is going to double-team our posts. They are getting better at passing out of those situations and the perimeter players get better shots if they go inside first, since few of them can work to get good shots on their own. There should never be a possession where the first look should not be into the post, even if it takes the first 25 seconds on the shot clock.

Excellent. I see our guys look at a post player all the time. It's like they're avoiding them. I think it may just be they don't trust their passing. I've said before I don't understand how a player can get to college and not know how to pass.lol I've taught a little PE and that's one of the fundamental skills they learn. Of course they also forget very quickly over the summer.
But I don't think it's really their skills as much as their timidity when playing players they must think have "Flash" speed.
Was it Flash who outran Superman in the movies?

Stokes44yrs writes:

Since this is an old article...

I was thinking that one reason offenses are having a lot of trouble moving the ball around may be the way some refs thing that they decide what a foul is or isn't. It's clearly defined in the rules you can't go over or through someone to get the ball. Yet I think I've seen this more this year than ever...except at Rupp of course. There it's not over or through as much as on the back of! I guess. Anyhow I've always thought that "letting them play" was a bad idea. If you as a ref see a foul then call it no matter when or where. I admit this would create more methodical play but it would have to be more consistent. "just sayin'"

johnlg00#206211 writes:

in response to Stokes44yrs:

Since this is an old article...

I was thinking that one reason offenses are having a lot of trouble moving the ball around may be the way some refs thing that they decide what a foul is or isn't. It's clearly defined in the rules you can't go over or through someone to get the ball. Yet I think I've seen this more this year than ever...except at Rupp of course. There it's not over or through as much as on the back of! I guess. Anyhow I've always thought that "letting them play" was a bad idea. If you as a ref see a foul then call it no matter when or where. I admit this would create more methodical play but it would have to be more consistent. "just sayin'"

Well, I would settle for the NBA idea of "gaining an unfair advantage" in determining what is or isn't a foul. Basketball is a contact sport, especially down in the post. Both players are GOING to try to use their bodies on each other. A defender coming around the side should be able to make a legitimate play on the ball as long as he doesn't hold or shove the offensive player. An offensive player should be able hold his position to receive the ball as long as he doesn't hook the defender with an off arm or bump him away with a hip.

Stokes44yrs writes:

lol...contact sport maybe. More like wrestling underneath the basket. I can inderstand contact when no one has the ball. Also a little when jockeying for the rebound. The pushing and shoving matches usually get called. Hand checks are ok with me I guess. I guess I see it more on double teams...something we see a lot lately. Reaching around and in almost always brings contact...whether defensive or offensive. It's hard to call usually. So it's easier to just let 'em play. Maybe it's my imagination since I want them to call a foul on their bigs.haha

johnlg00#206211 writes:

in response to Stokes44yrs:

lol...contact sport maybe. More like wrestling underneath the basket. I can inderstand contact when no one has the ball. Also a little when jockeying for the rebound. The pushing and shoving matches usually get called. Hand checks are ok with me I guess. I guess I see it more on double teams...something we see a lot lately. Reaching around and in almost always brings contact...whether defensive or offensive. It's hard to call usually. So it's easier to just let 'em play. Maybe it's my imagination since I want them to call a foul on their bigs.haha

There is a bit too much of a tendency for our defenders to reach and slap. They would be much more effective if they used their feet better to hem in a ball-handler and just press them closely with their hands raised to block their passing angles rather than reaching in or slapping down. That pressures them psychologically as much as physically. The idea is not so much to FORCE the opponent to give up the ball, and risk unnecessary fouls, as it is to make it EASY for them to give you the ball.

In fact, I would much prefer for ALL of our defenders to keep their hands high and active--"hot hands", as Jimmy Dykes says. I look at the Vols on defense often and the whole team seems to be swabbing the floor with their hands. If your hands are up and moving all the time, you not only obscure the vision of passers, you are more likely to get deflections even if you aren't actively trying for them. You never know when an opponent behind you might try to pass over your head. You are also more ready to rebound.

I once saw an old kung-fu flick where the master had students carrying buckets of water up a long staircase, holding the buckets out to their sides to strengthen their shoulders. To "encourage" them to keep their arms out, knives were attached to the inside of their upper arms that would cut them on their sides if their arms came down. But I guess the NCAA would frown on that particular drill(;-P).

Stokes44yrs writes:

in response to johnlg00#206211:

There is a bit too much of a tendency for our defenders to reach and slap. They would be much more effective if they used their feet better to hem in a ball-handler and just press them closely with their hands raised to block their passing angles rather than reaching in or slapping down. That pressures them psychologically as much as physically. The idea is not so much to FORCE the opponent to give up the ball, and risk unnecessary fouls, as it is to make it EASY for them to give you the ball.

In fact, I would much prefer for ALL of our defenders to keep their hands high and active--"hot hands", as Jimmy Dykes says. I look at the Vols on defense often and the whole team seems to be swabbing the floor with their hands. If your hands are up and moving all the time, you not only obscure the vision of passers, you are more likely to get deflections even if you aren't actively trying for them. You never know when an opponent behind you might try to pass over your head. You are also more ready to rebound.

I once saw an old kung-fu flick where the master had students carrying buckets of water up a long staircase, holding the buckets out to their sides to strengthen their shoulders. To "encourage" them to keep their arms out, knives were attached to the inside of their upper arms that would cut them on their sides if their arms came down. But I guess the NCAA would frown on that particular drill(;-P).

Yeah we've done a lot of slappin' especially early in the year. You see our players putting there hands up a bit mechanical now. Not instinct at all. But they appear to be getting coached up.
but I was referring mainly to the other teams on our backs.hehe I really liked Davis though. I hope our bigs learned some things there.

johnlg00#206211 writes:

in response to Stokes44yrs:

Yeah we've done a lot of slappin' especially early in the year. You see our players putting there hands up a bit mechanical now. Not instinct at all. But they appear to be getting coached up.
but I was referring mainly to the other teams on our backs.hehe I really liked Davis though. I hope our bigs learned some things there.

Yeah, I guess I wandered off the point a bit the more I thought about the general idea of hands on defense. Can't ever remembering THAT ever happening(;-P)! When I was a beginning player, two things my coach always harped on were keeping our hands high and active and talking to each other on defense. Those things don't seem to be getting as much emphasis as they used to. If you watch as much basketball as I do, you would be amazed how many players these days seem to play defense bent over from the waist with stiff knees and arms sweeping the floor, just the OPPOSITE of the way I was taught to play defense. As for communicating on the court, it's almost as if guys just think it is cool to be aloof and staring off into space rather than talking to each other and looking INVOLVED in the game. Or maybe I'm just getting old....

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