Ugly, but effective: Tennessee beats Auburn, 64-49

Tennessee forward Jordan McRae (52) defends against Auburn guard Varez Ward (1) during the first half at Thompson-Boling Arena Saturday, Jan. 28, 2012. (ADAM BRIMER/NEWS SENTINEL)

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Tennessee forward Jordan McRae (52) defends against Auburn guard Varez Ward (1) during the first half at Thompson-Boling Arena Saturday, Jan. 28, 2012. (ADAM BRIMER/NEWS SENTINEL)

UT coach Cuonzo Martin talks about the Vols' 64-49 win over Auburn

Cuonzo Martin tells his team all the time to “stay ugly,” according to Tennessee junior power forward Jeronne Maymon.

The Vols (10-11, 2-4 SEC) did just that Saturday night, scoring a 64-49 victory over Auburn (12-9, 2-5) before a crowd of 19,024 at Thompson-Boling Arena.

It was the 1,500th win in the 103-year history of UT men’s basketball, and while it’s a safe bet many of those wins were more aesthetically pleasing, Martin wasn’t complaining.

After all, the alternative was suffering the 957th loss in program history and falling into last-place in the SEC standings.

“We won the game because we rebounded and defended,” Martin said unapologetically. “That’s where you hang your hat, on the defensive side of the ball.”

Maymon led the Vols with 15 points and 19 rebounds, Trae Golden added 13 points, Skylar McBee had 12, and Jarnell Stokes and Jordan McCrae each had 11.

Kenny Gabriel topped Auburn scorers with 13 points, Varez Ward had 12 and Rob Chubb 10.

The Vols won despite shooting a season-worst 34.5 percent from the field, hitting as many shots from the free-throw line (20 of 25) as they did from the floor (20 of 58).

UT’s 53 rebounds were a season-high, and the Vols forced the Tigers into the worst shooting night by an opponent (30.4) this season, blocking a season-high eight shots along the way.

Auburn second-year coach Tony Barbee, whose team has suffered through two poorer shooting performances, said Maymon was the difference.

“We are what we are offensively, so that’s not surprising,” Barbee said. “But when you get out-rebounded by 23, when you’ve got one player for them in Maymon who has 19 rebounds by himself, and our three-man rotation in the post don’t have 19 total, it’s going to be hard to win.”

The Vols led by as many as 20 points on a Maymon free throw with 1:07 left that made it 64-44.

“When a team’s in a zone, it’s harder for them to block out, so you just try to get to spots before they do,” said Maymon, who had a career-high 20 rebounds earlier this season in a 99-97 double-overtime loss to Memphis at the Maui Invitational on Nov. 22. “I was just in the right spot at the right time.”

So were UT’s defenders, particularly in the first half as the Vols took a 30-16 lead into intermission by closing the opening 20 minutes on an 18-2 run.

Auburn’s 16 first-half points was the fewest by a UT opponent this season. Tennessee held the Tigers without a field goal during the final 9:40 of the first half.

Gabriel scored on a jumper to give Auburn a 13-12 lead, and the Tigers managed only three free throws after that, missing their next 10 shots from the floor.

UT, meanwhile, started solving Auburn’s zone defense when they weren’t beating the Tigers down the floor in transition.

“It was just us settling down, reading the defense,” Martin said. “We still have to get better on the offensive side of the ball; we had open shots, we got to knock them down, we gotta get in the gym.”

Stokes, who scored nine of his 11 points and pulled down four of his six rebounds through the first half, said he felt like he took another step.

“I actually played against a lot of zone in high school, so that didn’t really bother me,” said Stokes, a mid-term freshman enrollee. “My assignment was to box out (Auburn starting center) Chubb, and I think I did a good job with that.”

The 6-foot-10 Chubb finished with five rebounds and four turnovers.

The Tigers staged a modest 6-0 run in the second half after UT turned the ball over on three consecutive possessions. Frankie Sullivan’s jumper with 7:41 left capped the run and cut the Vols’ lead to 42-33, but that was as close as Auburn would get.

Sullivan, who entered the game averaging a team-high 12.4 points, was held to five points on 2-of-12 shooting, as McBee harassed him much of the game.

Tennessee returns to action at 7 p.m. on Tuesday at No. 1-ranked Kentucky (21-1, 7-0). The Wildcats are riding a 13-game win streak and have the nation’s longest home win streak at 47, covering the tenure of coach John Calipari. Kentucky’s home win streak includes 46 in a row at Rupp Arena, and one at Memorial Gym.

The Wildcats beat the Vols 65-62 on Jan. 14 in Knoxville.

Mike Griffith covers Tennessee men’s basketball. Follow him at http://twitter.com/MikeGriffith32

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TopTenn writes:

Good win. 1500

thevoice writes:

Once again, Maymon was an ANIMAL! Nice game Trae. We need this from you every game. Congrats Vols.

HtownVol writes:

Tennessee is so bad at passing.

I would love to see the guards feed Maymon and Stokes the ball.

I loves Nesslar say "a dog is gonna eat if you feed him or not" in reference to Maymon not getting fed the ball and scoring off of rebounds only.

Tatum was as bad today as he has ever been.

Somehow UT wins going away.

It would just be so much better if we could get the bigs the ball and when the double team comes they could feed the open man (unless it is Tatum, shooting the way he was today).

Golden looked very bad driving the ball today. 4 times he was in the paint and turned it over or was blocked.

If only UT could pass the ball better.

GO VOLS

Different team at home.

yabadabadoo1026 writes:

in response to thevoice:

Once again, Maymon was an ANIMAL! Nice game Trae. We need this from you every game. Congrats Vols.

and as usual Tatum was a lamb--------hes gotten worse every year and should just be a bench player the rest of the way------at least McRae can score some points to offset his defense which can only get better with minutes----enough of Tatum already, he disappears 4 of 5 games

wigmeister writes:

They won. That is good. Maymon was a beast, and if they got him the ball more, he would have even been better! But the turnovers this team commits is unbelievable. How can they be that bad in that category, game after game. Trae played better. Good win under our belts.

HtownVol writes:

Did anyone else notive win # 1 for UT??

Tennessee school for the deaf... Not to be rude, but how can they play that game? The opponent can not exactly hear the whistle.

Was it a mistake?

jhayes0926#638474 writes:

Hard to watch this team, they play so ugly.

HtownVol writes:

To be fair UT is the worst passing team I have ever seen but Stokes has not been demanding the ball, he really needs to work on that.

Maymon made me laugh today at the end. Shooting his free throws UT had no player for the rebound and after Maymons first free throw he gave five to the air when no player was there. Very funny. Also when he was wide open in the paint and he was doing jumping jacks and still did not get the ball.

Tatum today passed up a couple good shots only to take a bad shot and miss.

One would thin a 5th year SR would make better decisions. He is the biggest up and down player in the SEC. I honestly think he just gets very lazy.

Can we get Washpun at pg and Golden at SG? Golden is not a PG and it is leading to too many turnovers. I think he fell down four times tonight, that is something that should never happen. He is not a ball handler. I get worried often when he holds the ball in the back court instead of getting it across the timeline. He is gonna get a 10 second call soon.

Get better guys. Go Vols

orangecountyvols writes:

Vols,

The classic example of playing according to the competition. Could the game plan have been to let Tatum keep shooting until he had one bounce around 5 or 6 times, then fall through? After missing that many seems the best course of action would be to sit and observe someone else who can shoot.
How they managed the Florida and U Conn wins once again relates to the competition.

Is there a statistic that shows how many trips down the floor which result in empty possessions?

To their credit, they play/played hard but just aren't very polished dribbling, passing, and shooting the ball.

Anyway, there are probably some who never thought the Vols would win ten games. In time, with several key additions to the roster...........
we'll see the difference.

Never too proud to take a win. Go Vols !!!!!!!!!!!

spacehistorian writes:

1500th victory for the men's basketball program. It was an ugly game but I don't mind them as long as we win. Great tenacious defense on display today. Now if we could just find some offense this team could be scary.

usnavyvolfan__times_free_press_can_shove_it writes:

Like I said...they're a different team at home. They're not gonna be in the cellar.

underthehill writes:

I thought McRae showed he is a much better all around player than Tatum. Team did not turn it over as much. Victory margin appeared to me to be more about Auburn's bad play than UT good play..

johnlg00 writes:

in response to HtownVol:

Tennessee is so bad at passing.

I would love to see the guards feed Maymon and Stokes the ball.

I loves Nesslar say "a dog is gonna eat if you feed him or not" in reference to Maymon not getting fed the ball and scoring off of rebounds only.

Tatum was as bad today as he has ever been.

Somehow UT wins going away.

It would just be so much better if we could get the bigs the ball and when the double team comes they could feed the open man (unless it is Tatum, shooting the way he was today).

Golden looked very bad driving the ball today. 4 times he was in the paint and turned it over or was blocked.

If only UT could pass the ball better.

GO VOLS

Different team at home.

Some good points here. The ball-handling and passing look to be major problems for the rest of the season. Still, those problems won't be so harmful if the Vols can just get better shots. It will probably require some "baby steps" to get to an overall level of play the team can be proud of, so let's just start with the terrible shot selection. Solutions-oriented guy that I am, I have a "modest proposal" to stop some of the horrible shooting from the perimeter. I know Martin is trying not to kill the confidence of the perimeter players by not nit-picking them too much on their shot selection, but when the two "big dogs" are making two-thirds of their field-goal attempts and the perimeter players are making only about one-quarter of theirs, at some point enough has to be enough. I would help them out by limiting their choices until they show they can make better ones.

Hence, my one rule for curing that. NO PLAYER is allowed to take a perimeter shot with more than 20 seconds left on the shot clock except under two conditions: 1) Off of a pass back outside from a post player or 2) OPEN and IN RHYTHM in a fast-break situation--NO EXCEPTIONS! That rule alone would cut down on about half of the silly shots. Ah, you ask, how would you enforce this? Again, two alternatives: 1) The offending player runs from the arena floor to the concourse level 10 times, while being timed, and does 50 pushups on the floor and 50 on the concourse OR--player's choice--2) Go into a small room with Maymon and Stokes and try to convince them why it was actually a good shot; if he can convince them, he won't have to run; if he can't, he runs DOUBLE. All the running will be done on the player's own time under the supervision of an assistant coach. Impose this for EACH offense, NOT each game, as verified by the game film, and we won't see quite so many of those ridiculous heaves.

Then, we can start working on the terrible passing, where I may have a few other ideas....BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

VolunteerLifer writes:

Winning ugly is still winning. I thought Trae had a poor game of running the offense, but played well defensively. Actually, everyone played well defensively, including Tatum, and that's why we won. Even McRae played well defensively, and he had a good game offensively, too. That was good to see. Pounding the ball inside is the way to go, obviously. A good game for the bigs to get under their belts.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

in response to underthehill:

I thought McRae showed he is a much better all around player than Tatum. Team did not turn it over as much. Victory margin appeared to me to be more about Auburn's bad play than UT good play..

I have never understood his inconsistency. Tatum just seems to play when he's in the mood. He's so arrrgh!!! frustrating. At least McRae is consistent somewhat. He appears to be growing as a player. I think maybe Tatum knows he won't go pro now. He didn't want it anyhow. Same with Woolridge. Martin will get players in who want to play I think. I don't dislike either player but they just don't have heart for this. Find something you can do and do it well. We would have struggled probably with most other SEC tonight at perimeter. BUT our defense probably would have kept us in it at least.

johnlg00 writes:

in response to yabadabadoo1026:

and as usual Tatum was a lamb--------hes gotten worse every year and should just be a bench player the rest of the way------at least McRae can score some points to offset his defense which can only get better with minutes----enough of Tatum already, he disappears 4 of 5 games

Unfortunately, you seem to be right about Tatum. As Jimmy Dykes said, if Tatum misses his first couple of shots, he is no good for the rest of the game. If he misses his first two, he should just sit down the rest of the game unless somebody fouls out or gets hurt. By this time, there is just no point in trying to spare his feelings. In most games when he isn't scoring, he isn't doing enough of the other things he could be doing.

On the other hand, this was about the best overall game I have seen McRae play even though he has scored more points in other games. He didn't turn the ball over a lot, he played some pretty good defense, and he made most of his shots, or so it seemed.

johnlg00 writes:

in response to HtownVol:

To be fair UT is the worst passing team I have ever seen but Stokes has not been demanding the ball, he really needs to work on that.

Maymon made me laugh today at the end. Shooting his free throws UT had no player for the rebound and after Maymons first free throw he gave five to the air when no player was there. Very funny. Also when he was wide open in the paint and he was doing jumping jacks and still did not get the ball.

Tatum today passed up a couple good shots only to take a bad shot and miss.

One would thin a 5th year SR would make better decisions. He is the biggest up and down player in the SEC. I honestly think he just gets very lazy.

Can we get Washpun at pg and Golden at SG? Golden is not a PG and it is leading to too many turnovers. I think he fell down four times tonight, that is something that should never happen. He is not a ball handler. I get worried often when he holds the ball in the back court instead of getting it across the timeline. He is gonna get a 10 second call soon.

Get better guys. Go Vols

Hard to disagree with most of this. One thing that would help Golden with the pressure is for the rest of the players to make themselves more available for the pressure-release pass. They often seem to run away from him when he gets in trouble.

MOOREVOLS writes:

in response to TennVolAlum:

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Were you there? You must have seen something different than I did. It was really a great crowd. They said over 19,000 and I'd say that's close to correct. Other than the Florida, Kentucky and Connecticut games this was the best crowd of the season. I'd say the fans did a good job today, even with two horrible teams playing.

yabadabadoo1026 writes:

in response to mocsandvolsfan:

I have never understood his inconsistency. Tatum just seems to play when he's in the mood. He's so arrrgh!!! frustrating. At least McRae is consistent somewhat. He appears to be growing as a player. I think maybe Tatum knows he won't go pro now. He didn't want it anyhow. Same with Woolridge. Martin will get players in who want to play I think. I don't dislike either player but they just don't have heart for this. Find something you can do and do it well. We would have struggled probably with most other SEC tonight at perimeter. BUT our defense probably would have kept us in it at least.

go pro???????????????-------who not delutional from a weed high in their most remote thoughts could ever think Tatum and pro in the same sentence?????

johnlg00 writes:

in response to orangecountyvols:

Vols,

The classic example of playing according to the competition. Could the game plan have been to let Tatum keep shooting until he had one bounce around 5 or 6 times, then fall through? After missing that many seems the best course of action would be to sit and observe someone else who can shoot.
How they managed the Florida and U Conn wins once again relates to the competition.

Is there a statistic that shows how many trips down the floor which result in empty possessions?

To their credit, they play/played hard but just aren't very polished dribbling, passing, and shooting the ball.

Anyway, there are probably some who never thought the Vols would win ten games. In time, with several key additions to the roster...........
we'll see the difference.

Never too proud to take a win. Go Vols !!!!!!!!!!!

There are a lot of things that result in empty possessions, such as poor shot selection, but the announcers said several times that the Vols turn the ball over on 26%(!!!) of their possessions on the season! That is MORE than one turnover for every FOUR possessions! That stat just boggles my mind.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

in response to yabadabadoo1026:

go pro???????????????-------who not delutional from a weed high in their most remote thoughts could ever think Tatum and pro in the same sentence?????

A couple years ago several on here thought he'd come around to be good.lol But I said HE knows it now. I already knew it. I can't even imagine him overseas. MAYBE some minor league team somewhere?

mocsandvolsfan writes:

in response to yabadabadoo1026:

go pro???????????????-------who not delutional from a weed high in their most remote thoughts could ever think Tatum and pro in the same sentence?????

lol I remember what made me think of the "pro" word now! I was thinking that he plays (if you want to word it that way) as if he's given up and that maybe when he got here he was thinking pro. He certainly is up and down in his play. There actually have been times when his play was good enough. rarely...As rare as a McBee 2 pointer.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

Sorry Tatum. I think you're a fine person but you don't seem to want to play as good as you can. Keep playing D. Use your degree and you'll be fine.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

in response to 10seVol85:

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I'm not really sure...but I suspect that our guards just don't won't to touch the ball. They either give to the other team or shoot it as soon as they can. Throwing it inside is just too daunting a task.

climberNeeds2workATwendys writes:

interesting..a lot of people didn't think they would win 10 games..now some complain on how they WIN games..never satisfied..like that poor hack climber.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

Golly I'm posting negative. Sooo I'll get off KNS after this one.

I'm GLAD we won. But I just can't think of too many teams we would have beaten tonight other that an Auburn team that just can't shoot. It was frustrating to watch and I'll get off here now 'cause I really prefer being a positive blogger. "If you can't say something nice"???

mocsandvolsfan writes:

in response to climberNeeds2workATwendys:

interesting..a lot of people didn't think they would win 10 games..now some complain on how they WIN games..never satisfied..like that poor hack climber.

Ok after this one I'm off...

You are absolutely correct. I did expect us to have a winning season though and still do.

bigdisbig writes:

Good defense and at least a win but it was truly ugly. The guards MUST look for the inside pass. They missed so many good passes by taking 3s. If they want to stay in the game at KY they MUST feed the ball inside and let Stokes and Maymon draw fouls. The Vols are NOT 3 point shooters and Martin needs to cut that phooey out. If you can feed the ball inside with GOOD passes then live by that scheme.

Razor784 writes:

Nice win, looking at the rest of the schedule we should be fine, at least 6 or 7 wins left for this group, that would be a halfway decent year

johnlg00 writes:

in response to 10seVol85:

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Yeah, Jimmy Dykes has a million of 'em; he could write a book. I'll bet he is a scream as a sports-banquet/booster-club speaker. I think he and Brad Nessler are one of the best announcing combos in college ball today.

Ironcity writes:

in response to HtownVol:

Tennessee is so bad at passing.

I would love to see the guards feed Maymon and Stokes the ball.

I loves Nesslar say "a dog is gonna eat if you feed him or not" in reference to Maymon not getting fed the ball and scoring off of rebounds only.

Tatum was as bad today as he has ever been.

Somehow UT wins going away.

It would just be so much better if we could get the bigs the ball and when the double team comes they could feed the open man (unless it is Tatum, shooting the way he was today).

Golden looked very bad driving the ball today. 4 times he was in the paint and turned it over or was blocked.

If only UT could pass the ball better.

GO VOLS

Different team at home.

What I learned today is that Auburn is terrible. UT played about the same way as they did against Vandy the only difference is Auburn couldn't put it in the ocean and the refs were kind to us.

When Tatum is on the court its 6 against 4. I think Tatum has earned playing time with effort and leadership but sooner or later you have to take him out of the starting line up. He can shoot the three if he hits the first one however he can't dribble, can't penetrate, can't shoot the mid range shot, he is an average defensive player and a horrible passer. Their comes a time when you have to just sit him down.

Mcrae brings a dimension we just don't have from any other player. He is the one guy who can slash to the basket. I know he is a liability with some bad plays but most of his mistakes today were from being to selfless.
The other thing Mcrae did was help Golden bring the ball up and thats something we have not seen all season from another guard.

I don't see this team getting to the NIT as the team is presently configured. I see maybe one road win at USC from here on out. I wish I could be more excited about the win and the play of our bigs but I can't get past how bad our offense looks and has looked for a long time.

johnlg00 writes:

in response to climberNeeds2workATwendys:

interesting..a lot of people didn't think they would win 10 games..now some complain on how they WIN games..never satisfied..like that poor hack climber.

You must admit that this kind of offense won't be good enough to beat many teams in the SEC. This is why Martin talks so much about the process: When you do the right things ALL THE TIME and in the right way--winning or losing, when things are going well and when they are not--out of habit and not because the coach is yelling at you, you will win more often than not. If you DON'T do those things in that manner, you will lose games you shouldn't have.

VolfanClinton writes:

So glad this is Cam Tatums last year !!!!

Ironcity writes:

in response to johnlg00:

There are a lot of things that result in empty possessions, such as poor shot selection, but the announcers said several times that the Vols turn the ball over on 26%(!!!) of their possessions on the season! That is MORE than one turnover for every FOUR possessions! That stat just boggles my mind.

I couldn't believe that stat but looking back on it it makes sense. Part of the problem is when you run an offense that takes 6-10 passes to work and you only have one player on the team that is maybe above average at passing, its going to look ugly.

We have a lot of players who are to small to play inside and can't dribble or pass to play outside. I love the effort but their has to be more to our offense if we want to win close games.

atributetoLombardiwasbanned writes:

in response to yabadabadoo1026:

go pro???????????????-------who not delutional from a weed high in their most remote thoughts could ever think Tatum and pro in the same sentence?????

Tatum.

budd#207344 writes:

in response to underthehill:

I thought McRae showed he is a much better all around player than Tatum. Team did not turn it over as much. Victory margin appeared to me to be more about Auburn's bad play than UT good play..

McRae would be a better all around player than Tatum if he defended someone. Unfortunately he doesn't. That's why he doesn't play as much

LSG410EC83 writes:

Just got back from the game and hey, a win is a win. Positives, great defense, good free throw shooting, and Stokes getting better on defense. Negatives, poor shot selection, too many turnovers, and Tatum stayed in about 20 minutes longer than he should of, no matter how good he was on defense. Still great to win. IT IS GREAT TO BE A TENNESSEE VOL. GO BIG ORANGE.

LSG410EC83 writes:

OH. I forgot one of the positives. Maymon was a beast tonight. 19 rebounds and many of them tough ones at that. Thats the Maymon we need the rest of the year.

budd#207344 writes:

in response to TennVolAlum:

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Guess you weren't there. 19 thousand and change for a bad opponent.Had to sit upstairs. Only holds 21,000

LSG410EC83 writes:

in response to TennVolAlum:

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I guess all the true fans were there. Student section looked fairly full. Wished they would let the students have the first 10 rows all the way around the bottom. Oh I forgot, that would put many of the sleeping seniors too far away from the floor to see. I am not saying all of them are like that, but a majority are.

FanNotSheep writes:

Tennessee needs to find a way to penetrate against zone defenses. McRae has the quickness to dribble-drive and kick it to Maymon or Stokes when the defense comes to him, if there's a passing lane. Of course the ball has to come back out sometimes but Skylar seems to be the only three-point threat. Don't see a lot of motion in the motion offense.

Defense looks better every game, even considering the competition. Expect bad things to happen in Lexington, but everybody loses up there. If UT plays D like it has of late and turnovers can be held to a reasonable number, it shouldn't get too far out of hand.

The team sure has exceed my expectations for January wins by beating Florida and UConn. After Austin Peay I was afraid they might only win 3 SEC games. They look capable defensively of winning the rest of their home games but they have got to figure out something offensively. I've learned never to say never. But can't somebody here shoot the ball?

Reflections writes:

in response to BIVOLAR_BEAR:

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Maybe you and HtownVol used up your quota of genius thoughts with your insightful comments on the game tonight. I'm deaf and go to work at NASA 5 days a week. I can even talk on the phone--figure that out!! Neither of you is hilarious, but you're both embarrassing.

oldster writes:

Coach Martin, please take Tatum out to play no more in a game if he misses his first two shots. When he's hot, he's hot, but when he is not, he is very, very NOT.

oldster writes:

in response to HtownVol:

Did anyone else notive win # 1 for UT??

Tennessee school for the deaf... Not to be rude, but how can they play that game? The opponent can not exactly hear the whistle.

Was it a mistake?

TSD still fields basketball and football teams, or did until very recently. They now only play high schools. I seem to recall that UT played at the YMCA back then and played a lot of "athletic teams." TSD sporting events make for very eerie settings to watch either kinds of game. I recommend going to at least one.

oldster writes:

in response to johnlg00:

Some good points here. The ball-handling and passing look to be major problems for the rest of the season. Still, those problems won't be so harmful if the Vols can just get better shots. It will probably require some "baby steps" to get to an overall level of play the team can be proud of, so let's just start with the terrible shot selection. Solutions-oriented guy that I am, I have a "modest proposal" to stop some of the horrible shooting from the perimeter. I know Martin is trying not to kill the confidence of the perimeter players by not nit-picking them too much on their shot selection, but when the two "big dogs" are making two-thirds of their field-goal attempts and the perimeter players are making only about one-quarter of theirs, at some point enough has to be enough. I would help them out by limiting their choices until they show they can make better ones.

Hence, my one rule for curing that. NO PLAYER is allowed to take a perimeter shot with more than 20 seconds left on the shot clock except under two conditions: 1) Off of a pass back outside from a post player or 2) OPEN and IN RHYTHM in a fast-break situation--NO EXCEPTIONS! That rule alone would cut down on about half of the silly shots. Ah, you ask, how would you enforce this? Again, two alternatives: 1) The offending player runs from the arena floor to the concourse level 10 times, while being timed, and does 50 pushups on the floor and 50 on the concourse OR--player's choice--2) Go into a small room with Maymon and Stokes and try to convince them why it was actually a good shot; if he can convince them, he won't have to run; if he can't, he runs DOUBLE. All the running will be done on the player's own time under the supervision of an assistant coach. Impose this for EACH offense, NOT each game, as verified by the game film, and we won't see quite so many of those ridiculous heaves.

Then, we can start working on the terrible passing, where I may have a few other ideas....BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

I just wonder if there is not some correlation to a coach stressing defense and rebounding and their team being terrible on offense. I mention this not just because that describes CCM and the Vols, but also Coach Summitt and the Lady Vols. Historically, the ladies are good on defense and rebounding, but cannot run a consistent half court offense unless they have a dominant player who can go one on 5. Could the coaches not spend just a little bit of time on half court offense and shooting - even if they do not think it is important?

budd#207344 writes:

in response to BodeaneVol:

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They don't call the meetings at the mosque church services

1vavolfan writes:

Another great night for Steven Pearl's back up from last season , Jeronne Maymon. The Vols have come a long way, never thought I would see Tatum and McBee play good defense. We out rebounded an SEC team tonight by 23. If Golden and McCrae would start shooting half as good as they did early in the season we could play with anyone.

volthrunthru#658770 writes:

some things to think about:

Wins are wins. Congratulations.
But there is not much luster on this one, and just barely enough to celebrate about this one, since:
a. Auburn is worse than MTSU.
b. The guards show little evidence of ANY
systematic coaching---runnind down the
floor ande driving to the basket over and
over, or throwing up 3-pointrs that clank
on the rim or miss all together is NOT
college level basketball. Something is
very wrong when Maymon leads in assists
or contends for the lead in most gamess,
as a post player.
c. You cannot spell TUrnover without "U" "T."
The smartest guard play is from the kid
from Tennessee, but he is too slow and not
a good enough ball handler to be the PG. Yet
the GA & OK kids are quicker, better ball
handlers, but are good for one TO in every
4 attempts...and more than that in most
games.
e. The in-game coaching decisions like the
substitution patterns are erratic, and the
clock management and lack of a systematic
approach on most possessions down the floor
is a cause for a LOT of concern. WHen the
word "motion," in a Motion Offense is really
used to refer to a system that is neither a
disciplined nor a well executed offense, the
problems cannot be ignored.

The team is not showing much sign of improvement; even the ESPN commentators are now
saying the same things that we who are called
"detractors" have been saying---but the ESPN folks have the advantage of being highly qualified to say these things. Problem is that the coaching is not improving the discipline of the team---especially the guards and the GA Post player---in enough discernable ways to actually BEAT good teams. This ain't horseshoes, so "close" does not count.

Moral victories and "also rans" are not satisfactory for a program that is as well funded, that has all the resources UT has.

Go Vols. But stop pussyfooting around and win ball games. The season is in the home stretch and the team does not look a heck of a lot better---and neither do the coaches.

Nice guys. Glad they are. But nice guys can win basketball games, too. THAT is what we need. These guys need to win games. It's time.

One_in_West_Knox writes:

in response to johnlg00:

There are a lot of things that result in empty possessions, such as poor shot selection, but the announcers said several times that the Vols turn the ball over on 26%(!!!) of their possessions on the season! That is MORE than one turnover for every FOUR possessions! That stat just boggles my mind.

...the Vols VERY FIRST possession...a TURNOVER!!

mocsandvolsfan writes:

in response to One_in_West_Knox:

...the Vols VERY FIRST possession...a TURNOVER!!

If we turn it over like that at Ky. we'll get blown out. If we don't shoot good shots. we'll get blown out. If we can't get it inside we'll get blown out.If we can't play team ball on offense we'll get blown out.

hmmm I may not watch this game. It's on ESPNU isn't it? If it is I can't watch it anyhow!!! I'll listen to it I reckon. And WKR I suspect even you don't want us to get beat by Ky....well whatever your handle is!

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