Newcomers offer Vols, Cuonzo Martin versatility

Vols take to court for first of ten team practices

Two down, Italy to go.

Tennessee's second basketball practice for its upcoming Italian excursion saw all three newcomers take the court for the first time Tuesday at Pratt Pavilion.

Freshman Derek Reese, back from the Nike Global Challenge, joined fellow freshman Armani Moore and junior-college transfer D'Montre Edwards, who experienced their first Vol practices on Monday.

"I think they're all going to be great additions,'' said senior Skylar McBee.

"They're gonna bring a lot of different things to our team so it's good to get team chemistry down before the season starts.''

Coach Cuonzo Martin gets eight more practices before the Vols depart for their Aug. 5-15 trip that includes four exhibitions against professional teams.

With everybody of note back except for Cameron Tatum, the three newcomers will have time to integrate themselves into the rotation — along with Quinton Chievous who redshirted last season.

Versatility seems to be the common denominator. Martin said all the new faces can play multiple spots on the perimeter.

"All three of those guys are talented, have good frames and good size on them,'' Martin said.

"Derek's a guy who can play all positions, one through four. Offensively, I know a lot is made of who's a point guard, but if you can handle the ball, pass and make decisions, you're fine because it's a motion offense.

"It really comes down to who they can defend.''

The Italy trip gives Martin and his staff a head start on figuring that out as he heads into his second season at Tennessee.

"A year ago, Jeronne Maymon, Kenny Hall, Trae Golden, they didn't have an opportunity to practice with us in the summer time,'' Martin said, "so this can only benefit those guys.''

Global Star: Martin said Reese played against top-notch competition in the Global Challenge. Reese played for Puerto Rico and made the all-tournament team.

"Some of the best high-school players in America were there,'' Martin said. "I don't want to name names but guys from Memphis, guys from the West Coast.

"If you had 50 guys, at least 25 were in the top 50 in America.''

Black December?: The squad was split into orange and black jerseys.

Less traditionalists suffer a panic attack, Martin said the black is only for practice.

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CoverOrange writes:

I'm missing on the reference to "December" in "Black December".

Good to know we have more players capable of handling the ball. Critical skill missing over the last several years.

born2ride writes:

I remember when Kiffin had the football team wear black. They looked stupid.

Go Vols in Italy!

WetumpkaThumpa writes:

This is the perfect timing for the Vols to get their opportunity to go overseas. It will help them more than anything, and give them a leg up on the other programs that aren't allowed the extra practices.

GerryOP writes:

How long has it been since we had high expectations for our basketVols and footVols? Even though it's only been 2-3 years, it seems like forever. I predict that the '12-'13 season will be the year that University of Tennessee athletics will reemerge as a power in college athletics.

I believe that ... that's what fans do.

All Vol ... All Day ... Every Day...

GerryOP writes:

in response to born2ride:

I remember when Kiffin had the football team wear black. They looked stupid.

Go Vols in Italy!

Congratulations b2r. That's the least negative post I've ever seen you make.

Witch_Doctors writes:

in response to born2ride:

I remember when Kiffin had the football team wear black. They looked stupid.

Go Vols in Italy!

Witch Doctor say to you bet they did..they kicked South Carolina's butt and you had to stay off the boards all weekend! haha
Bones never lie.

AtopTheHill06 writes:

Vols should wear black uniforms at some point this season. The players love it, and it adds more excitement. Maybe against memphis.

BruisedOrange writes:

in response to AtopTheHill06:

Vols should wear black uniforms at some point this season. The players love it, and it adds more excitement. Maybe against memphis.

MY FIRST CRANKY OLD MAN RANT:
(The arthritis in my neck got me up at 4 AM--you've been forewarned!)

When I was a kid (adolescent), I watched the previous generation of kids in movies, saw what they said-did-wore, and thought, "How stupid!"

Later I looked back at when I was a kid, what we said-did-wore, and realized how stupid we were (and still regret our lasting influence on society).

As for what kids say-do-wear today... clothing that denies the balanced, functional beauty of the human body, tats that change supple skin at its prime into the permanent, walking equivalent of roadside-sold black velvet paintings of Fat Vegas Elvis, and this nihilist-inspired obsession with the absence of both light and color (BLACK)... let's just be honest about it. Not all adolescents are, but adolescence always IS, in every generation, relentlessly stupid.

(Maybe "stupid" is too harsh. It's really just a lack of experience, practical knowledge, context, foresight... okay, I guess that IS "stupid.")

Some stupid can't be fixed (so I'm told, by a man who's always seen with a smoke and a drink), but most of it can be grown out of. In successful cultures, it's the role of institutions to stand resolute, maintaining necessary-for-adulthood standards in the face of the inevitable market onslaught which feeds and feeds off of predictable adolescent stupidity.

The problem today is our institutions (universities, churches, news organizations, etc.) also feed off of (rather than challenge and expose) the marketplace. People in power always prefer the malleable predictability of adolescence, and wish it could go on for years. After politicians lowered the voting age to 18, they began pushing policies (like coverage under the parents' insurance--as 85% of recent college grads move back in with their parents) to extend adolescence into what used to be independent adulthood. So adolescent thinking gets extended further into the active voting years.

Will black UT jerseys hasten the downfall of western civilization? Of course not. And yet... when you're already standing at the edge of a precipice, the tiniest nudge by someone who's "just playin' around" becomes increasingly irksome.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

in response to BruisedOrange:

MY FIRST CRANKY OLD MAN RANT:
(The arthritis in my neck got me up at 4 AM--you've been forewarned!)

When I was a kid (adolescent), I watched the previous generation of kids in movies, saw what they said-did-wore, and thought, "How stupid!"

Later I looked back at when I was a kid, what we said-did-wore, and realized how stupid we were (and still regret our lasting influence on society).

As for what kids say-do-wear today... clothing that denies the balanced, functional beauty of the human body, tats that change supple skin at its prime into the permanent, walking equivalent of roadside-sold black velvet paintings of Fat Vegas Elvis, and this nihilist-inspired obsession with the absence of both light and color (BLACK)... let's just be honest about it. Not all adolescents are, but adolescence always IS, in every generation, relentlessly stupid.

(Maybe "stupid" is too harsh. It's really just a lack of experience, practical knowledge, context, foresight... okay, I guess that IS "stupid.")

Some stupid can't be fixed (so I'm told, by a man who's always seen with a smoke and a drink), but most of it can be grown out of. In successful cultures, it's the role of institutions to stand resolute, maintaining necessary-for-adulthood standards in the face of the inevitable market onslaught which feeds and feeds off of predictable adolescent stupidity.

The problem today is our institutions (universities, churches, news organizations, etc.) also feed off of (rather than challenge and expose) the marketplace. People in power always prefer the malleable predictability of adolescence, and wish it could go on for years. After politicians lowered the voting age to 18, they began pushing policies (like coverage under the parents' insurance--as 85% of recent college grads move back in with their parents) to extend adolescence into what used to be independent adulthood. So adolescent thinking gets extended further into the active voting years.

Will black UT jerseys hasten the downfall of western civilization? Of course not. And yet... when you're already standing at the edge of a precipice, the tiniest nudge by someone who's "just playin' around" becomes increasingly irksome.

LMAO!!! lmao ? Does "lmao" fit in with the stupid category? Anyhow? Hey you this is a basketball board!! U can't expect better than "stupid" reactions on here. JUST like you can't expect better than "stupid" in the less experienced "category" of people in "society". "Will black UT jerseys hasten the downfall of western civilization?" No. But TATTOOS will!!! Nothing more stupid than ruining a perfectly good body. And I'm sorry for the chauvinism but especially female bodies. What's better than the natural beautiful skin of the female?? Huh? And it's NOT art! If they want art then use a non-permenant tattoo!???

Actually I don't really care as I don't plan on being here more than 40 or 50 more years (I'm 57). There will be NO tattoos in heaven. No black uniforms or anything in the least anti- social. imho. hmmm.Is imho a "stupid" thing??
Goooooo Voolllsss!

mocsandvolsfan writes:

Golly Reese is sounding more and more like a good get!!!!

I know I know. He's a freshmen and like the guy above me stated...freshmen generally are "stupid". Well he didn't say freshmen were but that youngin's are.

But Reese is sounding awesone to me. Versatily in the guards is sounding much better than past coupla years. But we got McBee, Golden, and the much improving McRae coming back with great experience. We have Reese, Chievous, Richardson, looking great for frosh and sophs. I think our rotations this year will not lapse as much as it did last year. Golden may actually get a breather or two.

underthehill writes:

I think Martin has an excellent eye for talent in spite of the stars..and I really believe UT will have a very competitive team as long as he is the coach..hope I'm right on this one..

voloffaith writes:

in response to born2ride:

I remember when Kiffin had the football team wear black. They looked stupid.

Go Vols in Italy!

Came out and beat the Ole Ball coaches feather-covered team from sc........Viva la VOLS!!!

underthehill writes:

in response to mocsandvolsfan:

Golly Reese is sounding more and more like a good get!!!!

I know I know. He's a freshmen and like the guy above me stated...freshmen generally are "stupid". Well he didn't say freshmen were but that youngin's are.

But Reese is sounding awesone to me. Versatily in the guards is sounding much better than past coupla years. But we got McBee, Golden, and the much improving McRae coming back with great experience. We have Reese, Chievous, Richardson, looking great for frosh and sophs. I think our rotations this year will not lapse as much as it did last year. Golden may actually get a breather or two.

I hope you are right..Golden did appear to play too many minutes last year and it hurt his play late in games..

fearthehound writes:

in response to BruisedOrange:

MY FIRST CRANKY OLD MAN RANT:
(The arthritis in my neck got me up at 4 AM--you've been forewarned!)

When I was a kid (adolescent), I watched the previous generation of kids in movies, saw what they said-did-wore, and thought, "How stupid!"

Later I looked back at when I was a kid, what we said-did-wore, and realized how stupid we were (and still regret our lasting influence on society).

As for what kids say-do-wear today... clothing that denies the balanced, functional beauty of the human body, tats that change supple skin at its prime into the permanent, walking equivalent of roadside-sold black velvet paintings of Fat Vegas Elvis, and this nihilist-inspired obsession with the absence of both light and color (BLACK)... let's just be honest about it. Not all adolescents are, but adolescence always IS, in every generation, relentlessly stupid.

(Maybe "stupid" is too harsh. It's really just a lack of experience, practical knowledge, context, foresight... okay, I guess that IS "stupid.")

Some stupid can't be fixed (so I'm told, by a man who's always seen with a smoke and a drink), but most of it can be grown out of. In successful cultures, it's the role of institutions to stand resolute, maintaining necessary-for-adulthood standards in the face of the inevitable market onslaught which feeds and feeds off of predictable adolescent stupidity.

The problem today is our institutions (universities, churches, news organizations, etc.) also feed off of (rather than challenge and expose) the marketplace. People in power always prefer the malleable predictability of adolescence, and wish it could go on for years. After politicians lowered the voting age to 18, they began pushing policies (like coverage under the parents' insurance--as 85% of recent college grads move back in with their parents) to extend adolescence into what used to be independent adulthood. So adolescent thinking gets extended further into the active voting years.

Will black UT jerseys hasten the downfall of western civilization? Of course not. And yet... when you're already standing at the edge of a precipice, the tiniest nudge by someone who's "just playin' around" becomes increasingly irksome.

Whoa there, Tolstoy. Um, I kinda like the black jerseys. In fact, to add a little more stupid generational culture to the conversation, I always thought the Vols should look into orange helmets with the Power T in white for road games. It would offset those boring white uniforms.

westknoxrepub writes:

Yeah, these two and three star recruits are going to do us a world of good against the Floridas, Kentucky's, Vandy's, Alabama's, Missouri's etc. come SEC play. Hey coach, how about recruiting SEC calibur players that other SEC teams want, like we were doing when we were actually going to the NCAA tournament.

brod writes:

westknox, when i read your comments it's beginning to sound like listening charlie brown's teacher. wahwahwah, wahwau, wahwahwah.

ball1523 writes:

I really hope Reese and the two others play well this season because a lot of people on here have been hard on coach martin because he hasnt gotten any highly rated players with the exception of stokes. I personally feel like this staff has an eye for who can play and be successful in this program. they're not relying of the stars system to tell them who's good.

ball1523 writes:

in response to westknoxrepub:

Yeah, these two and three star recruits are going to do us a world of good against the Floridas, Kentucky's, Vandy's, Alabama's, Missouri's etc. come SEC play. Hey coach, how about recruiting SEC calibur players that other SEC teams want, like we were doing when we were actually going to the NCAA tournament.

no sec schools wanted chris lofton and jujuan smith either but they turned out to be pretty good.

WetumpkaThumpa writes:

in response to westknoxrepub:

Yeah, these two and three star recruits are going to do us a world of good against the Floridas, Kentucky's, Vandy's, Alabama's, Missouri's etc. come SEC play. Hey coach, how about recruiting SEC calibur players that other SEC teams want, like we were doing when we were actually going to the NCAA tournament.

Hey westknoxrepub, how about doing a spell check before posting? You are making my party look bad. "Calibur player" should be spelled, caliber player.

P.S. Tennessee has been doing just fine against Florida and Vanderbilt with "lower" CALIBER players.

dlobh writes:

in response to westknoxrepub:

Yeah, these two and three star recruits are going to do us a world of good against the Floridas, Kentucky's, Vandy's, Alabama's, Missouri's etc. come SEC play. Hey coach, how about recruiting SEC calibur players that other SEC teams want, like we were doing when we were actually going to the NCAA tournament.

Just like they did last year, I guess, when the Vols were 2nd in the league . . .

licknpromise777#651578 writes:

in response to underthehill:

I think Martin has an excellent eye for talent in spite of the stars..and I really believe UT will have a very competitive team as long as he is the coach..hope I'm right on this one..

You are right;we will get a chance to see if Martin is a genius finding some 2 star diamonds in the rough or they turn out to be non impact utility players with a 4 PPG average..Unfortunately Westknox isn't totally wrong..Fla;Ky;Vandy and even Bama are out recruiting us..There is a difference between signing the #5 SG as compared to #59 SG..Good example..just compare McRae to Beal. Huge difference

westknoxrepub writes:

in response to dlobh:

Just like they did last year, I guess, when the Vols were 2nd in the league . . .

Finishing 2nd by playing a weak back end SEC schedule isn't impressive when you don't win any games in the SEC Tournament, don't make the NCAA tournament, then lose in the 2nd round of the NIT to MTSU on your home floor. We weren't anywhere close to an SEC Title.

johnlg00 writes:

They will be close this coming season. They seemed to have run out of gas late last season and Golden and Maymon were noticeably slowed by injury over the last month or so. It didn't help that Kenny Hall was on suspension during most of that time. The Vols should be able to put together a pretty strong nine-player rotation, with three others available for spot duty. Depth and experience will both favor the Vols this year. They won just enough to understand what they missed at the end of last season. All Vol fans will be proud of this bunch by the time this coming season is over.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

in response to westknoxrepub:

Finishing 2nd by playing a weak back end SEC schedule isn't impressive when you don't win any games in the SEC Tournament, don't make the NCAA tournament, then lose in the 2nd round of the NIT to MTSU on your home floor. We weren't anywhere close to an SEC Title.

??? 2nd is 2nd. If we had been any better we'd have been 1st...when we were supposed to be what 11th?! We could have come closer with a healthy Golden and Maymon AND like John said also having a righteous Hall would have been nice.
You don't make sense most of the time. So stop trying to argue and get on the bandwagon. Martin is proving to be a great hire regardless of your feeelings for Hammy.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

in response to licknpromise777#651578:

You are right;we will get a chance to see if Martin is a genius finding some 2 star diamonds in the rough or they turn out to be non impact utility players with a 4 PPG average..Unfortunately Westknox isn't totally wrong..Fla;Ky;Vandy and even Bama are out recruiting us..There is a difference between signing the #5 SG as compared to #59 SG..Good example..just compare McRae to Beal. Huge difference

Uhhh didn't McRae beat Beal twice last year? I don't know maybe my memory's off.

BruisedOrange writes:

in response to fearthehound:

Whoa there, Tolstoy. Um, I kinda like the black jerseys. In fact, to add a little more stupid generational culture to the conversation, I always thought the Vols should look into orange helmets with the Power T in white for road games. It would offset those boring white uniforms.

I like the idea of road game orange helmets too--have since the old days at Yasnaya Polyana.

[ Apologies to everyone for that lengthy "rant" above. Tried to write something funny to fight off the too-early blues... but everything in the news just kinda leaked in. Between the Tsar and all those Bolshevik bureaucrats, the welcome distraction of football season can't start soon enough for me! ]

Theo writes:

in response to born2ride:

I remember when Kiffin had the football team wear black. They looked stupid.

Go Vols in Italy!

It was HALLOWEEN. It was great, the crowd went wild when the Vols took the field and if I remember correctly we throttled SC.

FeelVol writes:

in response to johnlg00:

They will be close this coming season. They seemed to have run out of gas late last season and Golden and Maymon were noticeably slowed by injury over the last month or so. It didn't help that Kenny Hall was on suspension during most of that time. The Vols should be able to put together a pretty strong nine-player rotation, with three others available for spot duty. Depth and experience will both favor the Vols this year. They won just enough to understand what they missed at the end of last season. All Vol fans will be proud of this bunch by the time this coming season is over.

I agree with your comments John particularly about Golden and Maymon and I believe our frontcourt will be as good as we've had in a while with the experience Makanjuola gained last year. I'm also excited with our new guards as well and I firmly believe barring injury we will have a tough team that will surprise some naysayers along the way and represent us again in the NCAA tourney. Still proud to be a Vol fan.

UTByrd writes:

Having a deeper bench will allow CCM's rotation on the defensive side of the game to be even better than last year, when we were picked to finish last in the SEC. I believe his defensive strategy had everything to do with last year's success (note I didn't say last year's failure).
Just as in football, I think the basketVOLS will be a team that others may not want to play. Please prove me right.
Go VOLS!!!!!

volthrunthru#658770 writes:

in response to mocsandvolsfan:

??? 2nd is 2nd. If we had been any better we'd have been 1st...when we were supposed to be what 11th?! We could have come closer with a healthy Golden and Maymon AND like John said also having a righteous Hall would have been nice.
You don't make sense most of the time. So stop trying to argue and get on the bandwagon. Martin is proving to be a great hire regardless of your feeelings for Hammy.

Horse manure.

The season fell into GonzoQuonzo's lap, at the end, just like the poster with whom you are arguing said.

And the lousy post-season performances shows just how much is lacking/was lacking in the management of the team, stem-to-stern.

The most telling commentaries came when the two guys who soulda stayed/woulda stayed if Pearl had stayed...

left. They simply did not believe in Martin.
And based on his and his coaches and his team's performance...

no wonder.

Losing when it counts makes the so-called 2nd in the SEC

not worth a XXXt. Frankly.

Please stop making excuses for poor performance. Justifying what has not worked gets you more of it...

and could well keep better from showing up.

Not personal re: Martin or his staff...
just pointed that UT needs proven better.

Otherwise BB can join the FB & BseBall teams in Doodley Land.

brod writes:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

Horse manure.

The season fell into GonzoQuonzo's lap, at the end, just like the poster with whom you are arguing said.

And the lousy post-season performances shows just how much is lacking/was lacking in the management of the team, stem-to-stern.

The most telling commentaries came when the two guys who soulda stayed/woulda stayed if Pearl had stayed...

left. They simply did not believe in Martin.
And based on his and his coaches and his team's performance...

no wonder.

Losing when it counts makes the so-called 2nd in the SEC

not worth a XXXt. Frankly.

Please stop making excuses for poor performance. Justifying what has not worked gets you more of it...

and could well keep better from showing up.

Not personal re: Martin or his staff...
just pointed that UT needs proven better.

Otherwise BB can join the FB & BseBall teams in Doodley Land.

i don't know that hopson and harris not staying on reflected their view of coach martin. you can't argue with harris leaving. he was drafted. hopson was not, and i feel that martin should have persuaded him more to stay. but that was then and this is now. the next year or two will be what martin is judged on, not this past year, in which the team overacheived a little bit.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

volnoththroughnneverthroughidiot! We were 2nd in the conference and everything I stated made perfect sense but I will not re-post your drivel...hehe

UT4prez writes:

in response to westknoxrepub:

Finishing 2nd by playing a weak back end SEC schedule isn't impressive when you don't win any games in the SEC Tournament, don't make the NCAA tournament, then lose in the 2nd round of the NIT to MTSU on your home floor. We weren't anywhere close to an SEC Title.

You are off base on the schedule comment. Even though divisions were gone last year the schedule was based on the old East/West divisions. The power was in the "East" and UT played KY, Vandy, and UF twice each. That was 6 of the 16 conference games. Those were the supposedly 3 best teams last year. UT went 3-3 against them. Maybe it so happened that most of those games were in the first 8 conference games but the overall conference schedule was not easy and certainly tougher than any of the "West" teams since the best 4 teams were all in the East. Good try.

bkgunter writes:

in response to westknoxrepub:

Finishing 2nd by playing a weak back end SEC schedule isn't impressive when you don't win any games in the SEC Tournament, don't make the NCAA tournament, then lose in the 2nd round of the NIT to MTSU on your home floor. We weren't anywhere close to an SEC Title.

Yo, WetSocksReflux: It's not sophisticated analysis to regurgitate every shortcoming, and dump on every accomplishment. Neither is it intelligent analysis to obsess over the "rankings" of high school kids when you obviously know nothing about talent evaluation/development. You come off as a disaffected moron intent on blaming the current guy for a "situation" that he has measurably improved.

bkgunter writes:

in response to westknoxrepub:

Yeah, these two and three star recruits are going to do us a world of good against the Floridas, Kentucky's, Vandy's, Alabama's, Missouri's etc. come SEC play. Hey coach, how about recruiting SEC calibur players that other SEC teams want, like we were doing when we were actually going to the NCAA tournament.

You and your godforsaken stars, WetSocksReflux. You sound like some dimwitted astrology columnist.

Punkin2 writes:

Team needs to win these games.

Noogaorange writes:

in response to born2ride:

I remember when Kiffin had the football team wear black. They looked stupid.

Go Vols in Italy!

Totaly disagree on the black uniforms for the football team. I was there and they were great. That's a pretty strong statement from a old guy like me but the situation was right and don't forget we beat the hell out of a favored SC team. Emotions play an important part in sports and the electricticity could be felt all though out the stadium. When they ran through the T I don't think there's been a much louder crowd in Neyland and I've been going for 65 years! Having said all that I'd just as soon keep things conservative with the uniforms but that's coming from a Senior Citizen. The young kids like all the new uniforms and we should take a look at changing things up from time to time....after we win more than we lose though!

As for as Basketball goes same thing, the kids like changing things up. If we're winning I don't have a problem with it.
GBO

luvmatersoup writes:

This article got me thinking.....how is this trip to Europe being financed? Is it the school picking up the tab, Coach Martin, or is someone else from overseas picking up the tab? I'm all for practice but couldn't we scrimage ETSU or UTC? I think it would be a lot less costly and still give us good practice!!! Go Vols!

SEC__Headgear writes:

in response to AtopTheHill06:

Vols should wear black uniforms at some point this season. The players love it, and it adds more excitement. Maybe against memphis.

I for one am for it!!

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