John Adams: UT's tradition is changing

John Adams

If you think a decline in victories and championships is the only newsworthy trend in Tennessee athletics, you haven't been paying close enough attention.

The attrition has been almost as significant as the losing. The University of Tennessee has become Turnover U.

You can't get the full impact of how different the athletic department has become without a historical perspective. And you don't need much history. Five years will suffice.

Here's a partial look at UT's sports leadership on May 25, 2007:

Baseball: Coach Rod Delmonico had just completed his 18th season as head coach. The Vols were two years removed from a College World Series and had posted five consecutive winning records, which were followed by Delmonico's firing at the end of the season.

He was succeeded by Todd Raleigh, who never lost fewer than 18 SEC games in four unsuccessful seasons that ended with his firing in 2011.

Track: Bill Webb was in his 12th season as UT's head coach. By then, he had won a national championship in outdoor and indoor track and been honored as SEC coach of the year three times.

He would resign two years later.

Swimming: John Trembley was in his 19th season heading up UT's program. Five years later, the six-time SEC coach of the year was fired for "gross misconduct."

Cross country: George Watts was in his 13th season as UT's head coach. He lasted three more years before track coach J.J. Clark announced Watts wouldn't be retained after the 2010 season.

Soccer: Angela Kelly's team had qualified for its seventh NCAA tournament in her first eight years as the UT women's soccer coach. She left after the 2011 season to become the coach at Texas.

Men's basketball: Bruce Pearl had finished only his second season as coach, but what a two seasons they had been. He had revived a stale program, made the Vols an NCAA tournament regular and had fans thinking he would be here a long time.

Four years later, he was fired for his involvement in NCAA rules violations.

Media relations: Bud Ford had been a part of UT's sports information department for 41 years. He would head up that department for another four years before retiring at the end of 2011 with the expectation of serving another year in the UT athletic department as a historian.

That job was eliminated this year under new athletic director Dave Hart, ending Ford's long tenure with UT. He recently filed a claim against the Vols for breach of contract.

Media relations: Debby Jennings was in her 30th year in charge of media relations for UT women's athletics. When her "retirement" was announced earlier this month, she left her position with the distinction of being legendary coach Pat Summitt's only media relations director.

She is now considering legal action against UT for forcing her to either retire or be fired for insubordination.

Football: Phillip Fulmer was in between his 14th and 15th full seasons as coach at this time five years ago. His 2006 team had improved to 9-4 after a 5-6 finish in 2005 and his 2007 team would make it to the SEC championship game.

He was fired after a disastrous 5-7 season in 2008.

Administrative: Mike Hamilton was in great shape as UT's athletic director five years ago. He was basking in the glow of Pearl's sudden success and hadn't yet alienated some UT fans with his firing of Fulmer.

But with both football and basketball programs in turmoil four years later, Hamilton joined UT's list of departed in 2011.

Women's basketball: Five years ago, Summitt had ended her 33rd season with a seventh national championship.

Illness forced her to resign after last season but she will continue with the program as head coach emeritus.

Those are just the attrition highlights. There have been numerous other changes involving assistant coaches and longtime administrators,

Former women's athletic director Joan Cronan is no longer in charge of the department she ran for 28 years. In fact, there's no women's department to run since the men's and women's programs have merged. That makes you wonder how long before the Lady Vols' logo could be obscured by a Power T big enough for men and women.

With all the reorganization and replacements, it's worth noting that everything hasn't changed at UT. Toy poodles and Pomeranians aren't competing to replace Smokey. General Neyland's maxims remain intact.

And there's no hint UT administrators think the checkerboard end zones in Neyland Stadium might be outdated.

John Adams is a senior columnist. He may be reached at 865-342-6284 or adamsj@knoxnews.com. Follow him at http://twitter.com/johnadamskns

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vollaw writes:

Wow!Hard to believe all these things have happened in less than 5 years.

johnnyvol writes:

Hate to say it,but all of the above we're needed to help this program get back on it's feet...!

TommyJack writes:

Maybe the easiest column Adams ever typed.

vut5686#1405392 writes:

"UTs Tradition is Changing." what an interesting and misleading lead in. What Adams describes, selectivly, is turnover; in other businesses, that is all it is: turnover.

Tradition would seem to be the fan and athlete participating in events and the enjoyment thereof. That would seem to be at an all time high...give or take a few thousand.

In the General's time, average attendence for a football game would be around 26M; often, there were more fights in the stands than on the field. Further, only a fraction of opportunities existed for athletes...compared to today. Tradition would seem to be greatly enhanced...compared to most decades of the past.

Winning is important and losing tends to turn off many who expect only winning. I just doubt Adams would be appointed the defining Tradition expert by the hundreds of thousands who will continue "traditions' started long before he cluttered up the scene.

FWBVol writes:

John, you got things wrong about Phillip Fulmer's firing. He wasn't fired after a disastrous 5-7 in 2008. Tennessee was a disappointing 3-6 at the time Phillip Fulmer was fired prior to the Wyoming game in 2008. If Mike Hamilton had waited until the end of the year to fire Fulmer, the Vols might have beaten Wyoming instead of laying an egg against the Cowboys.

But your main point is correct, there has been enough turnover at UT in the last five years to last a lifetime.

AlexAndersonAAradio writes:

The Lady Vol emblem should be replaced by the Power T. It's all University of Tennessee sports. The emblem is ugly anyway with blue in it. We aren't Kentucky we are the University of Tennessee by gosh!!!

rockypop writes:

So, how many serious UT fans out there didn't know all this? When will all the talk about the problems stop, and the discussions of the solutions begin? Adams is taking the easy road here - like all the politicians in this country.

I, for one, believe UT's problems stem from a serious lack of leadership at the top that has existed at least since Joe Johnson was President. And, based on the recent Hart, Jennings, Summitt fiasco, DiPietro is charting a course that will place him outside the "sphere of responsibility" in dealing with the enormous PR hits the university's entire athletic department is taking.

I think Tennessee fans need to demand that their leader be a visible and vocal participant in the effort to restore a once proud athletic program, that was once described as the "front porch" of the university, to a position of prominence in the SEC. Everything but committed leadership is in place. We're waiting...

Ichabod writes:

Wow, that must have taken at least eight minutes to write. Well done, John. OK, back to the grill....

Classof72 writes:

They may be considering replacing Smokey with a corporate weasel, who knows? Sell the endzones to Adidas, the 'black jerseys' people. Wall Street looks more loyal and trustworthy than UTAD. Maybe the NCAA can 'bail out' the UTAD. Hart's not responsible for this. The guy who hired Hart is.

Couchdummy writes:

Mr. Adams is like a bad comic telling jokes at a wake.

Witch_Doctors writes:

Witch Doctor heres the problem with Tennessee other than Pat Summit and maybe Fulmer...the Tennessee program is about the kids and the school and not one individual...(i.e. Debbie) Witch Doctor say the complacency of the program is the cause of the shape its in. Witch Doctor say time to get people back into the AD that whats to BE a PART of the program and not just to toot their own horns and think THEY are bigger than the school. Witch Doctor say getting old sucks Adams but we all do it and the hope is Tennessee is around after we are gone. Witch Doctor say the "Fulmer" or nothing crowd is by far the dumbest as seen in their comments. Witch Doctor say change is needed and it was WAY past time to do so. Great Job people whom finally has had enough and are taking steps to rid it of the trash it became in the last couple of years.
Go REAL Vols.
Bones never lie.

tovolny writes:

My first post was removed. But, I was just saying to consider the source. I was thanking KNS for moving John to the Sports History section. He hasn't provided any Sports News in a long time. But wait..."you mean Fulmer was fired"..."where's Bruce(?)."

Pullingguard writes:

John has the reputation for being negative on everything involving UT and this column is no different.. He is using all the departures as another negative... John will never change, and the only thing that would have made all the departures better would have been if John had joined them.

WetumpkaThumpa writes:

YOU CAN THANK MIKE HAMILTON FOR MOST OF THIS...

VolAtUGA11 writes:

I gotta say I never appreciated peoples' criticisms of Adams as a guy who never has anything good to say about UT. How could a person who's made a pretty decent career out of writing be that biased? Why would he be out to get UT?

This article doesn't help the argument for Adams.

orangeman1 writes:

Yep, its been a long 4 years. I never wouldve thought UT wouldve lost 6 or more games each of the last 4 years. Its definitely been the lowest period for football that I can remember. Basketball has been a positive until the whole Pearl fiasco last year. But this year there is hope in football and the basketball team seems to be coming along well so I think UT fans will have something to be proud of very soon.

FWBVol writes:

I had a lunch with a friend today that grew up an Alabama fan, got his bachelors in engineering from Auburn and his masters from UT...talking about someone that is messed up. This friend pointed out that starting with the last few years of Bear Bryant's career up until Saban arrived at Alabama, other than the NC the Tide won under Gene Stallings they were average at best in football.

We have had an inordinate amount of turnover the last few years, but we also had a long run of stability that many schools have never enjoyed.

Things will get better because Tennessee is Tennessee. We will rise from this period of transition and, if Derek Dooley can get the football program over the hump in the next year or two we should have another long run of stability in our big three men's sports for years to come.

steamboatticket#484773 writes:

in response to TommyJack:

Maybe the easiest column Adams ever typed.

John Adams and his muse. They're working hhaaaaarrrrrrddd!

tovolny writes:

in response to FWBVol:

I had a lunch with a friend today that grew up an Alabama fan, got his bachelors in engineering from Auburn and his masters from UT...talking about someone that is messed up. This friend pointed out that starting with the last few years of Bear Bryant's career up until Saban arrived at Alabama, other than the NC the Tide won under Gene Stallings they were average at best in football.

We have had an inordinate amount of turnover the last few years, but we also had a long run of stability that many schools have never enjoyed.

Things will get better because Tennessee is Tennessee. We will rise from this period of transition and, if Derek Dooley can get the football program over the hump in the next year or two we should have another long run of stability in our big three men's sports for years to come.

Good post. Please post more often. It is nice to know that a sane person actually reads and posts these GVX items. Right after my shock treatments, they take my straight jacket off and let me read GVX twice a day.

SouthALVol writes:

What Adams writes never bothers me. I assume he takes the role of the person who tells you not to get too high on UT. It certainly is a downer especially when UT is already down, but it can temper things when the situation gets better.

I remember hearing John Ward speak at the Memphis Big Orange Club meeting once in the 80s. He told it like it was and did not sugarcoat anything. I figured he would be a homer, but he wasn't. I don't remember anyone criticizing him for his views. (And, no, I am not putting Adams on par with Ward.)

frblalack writes:

John Adams, master of the obvious and redundant! Who knew...let me rephrase...is there ANYONE who wasn't aware of the changes spoken of in this column?

Another hard news night, huh John? Another night of writer's block...thanks for another brilliant stab at eloquence! Tomorrow you'll be reporting of a mysterious sphere on the horizon...rising in the east and setting in the west. Such a veritable plethora of information!

All Vols - All the Time - Go Big Orange!!!!!!!!

Dalton writes:

in response to TommyJack:

Maybe the easiest column Adams ever typed.

Outwardly giggling...in a maniacal sense...lovingly caressing his keyboard....incisors gleaming...yeah such is shangri la for our Grim Reaper

VolzsFan writes:

in response to Witch_Doctors:

Witch Doctor heres the problem with Tennessee other than Pat Summit and maybe Fulmer...the Tennessee program is about the kids and the school and not one individual...(i.e. Debbie) Witch Doctor say the complacency of the program is the cause of the shape its in. Witch Doctor say time to get people back into the AD that whats to BE a PART of the program and not just to toot their own horns and think THEY are bigger than the school. Witch Doctor say getting old sucks Adams but we all do it and the hope is Tennessee is around after we are gone. Witch Doctor say the "Fulmer" or nothing crowd is by far the dumbest as seen in their comments. Witch Doctor say change is needed and it was WAY past time to do so. Great Job people whom finally has had enough and are taking steps to rid it of the trash it became in the last couple of years.
Go REAL Vols.
Bones never lie.

Bigger than the school??? Maybe you should re-read this article. It spells out that the imagined greatness of UT history was in fact great during the run of the individuals mentioned. It shows that the best coaches in the schools history in their respective sports, where run off or mis-managed during the Hammy days (with the help of Adams and a few ignorant fans in the vocal minority).

Delmonico is one of the most successful coaches in SEC history let alone UT history. Fulmer is by far the most successful football coach in school history and one of the most successful in SEC history. Pearl was by far the most successful basketball coach, etc. etc. etc.

I hope some of you are enjoying the change I warned you about before and while it was going down. You heard it here first, none of UT's sports was ever as successful as it was when Hammy began to "fix" it with "his stamp". None will ever be that successful again. But hey, enjoy those checkerboards and tailgates. That is all you have left.

http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id...

http://www.wvmetronews.com/wvu.cfm?fu...

GerryOP writes:

in response to Witch_Doctors:

Witch Doctor heres the problem with Tennessee other than Pat Summit and maybe Fulmer...the Tennessee program is about the kids and the school and not one individual...(i.e. Debbie) Witch Doctor say the complacency of the program is the cause of the shape its in. Witch Doctor say time to get people back into the AD that whats to BE a PART of the program and not just to toot their own horns and think THEY are bigger than the school. Witch Doctor say getting old sucks Adams but we all do it and the hope is Tennessee is around after we are gone. Witch Doctor say the "Fulmer" or nothing crowd is by far the dumbest as seen in their comments. Witch Doctor say change is needed and it was WAY past time to do so. Great Job people whom finally has had enough and are taking steps to rid it of the trash it became in the last couple of years.
Go REAL Vols.
Bones never lie.

Well said W_D. It took some big jingo to make that post ... but you're right.

WetumpkaThumpa writes:

in response to SouthALVol:

What Adams writes never bothers me. I assume he takes the role of the person who tells you not to get too high on UT. It certainly is a downer especially when UT is already down, but it can temper things when the situation gets better.

I remember hearing John Ward speak at the Memphis Big Orange Club meeting once in the 80s. He told it like it was and did not sugarcoat anything. I figured he would be a homer, but he wasn't. I don't remember anyone criticizing him for his views. (And, no, I am not putting Adams on par with Ward.)

I agree with you. Adams doesn't bother me at all. I guess he gets under the skin of the fans drinking the kool-aid 24/7. Adams pretty much tells it how it is and I appreciate him for that reason.

GerryOP writes:

in response to VolzsFan:

Bigger than the school??? Maybe you should re-read this article. It spells out that the imagined greatness of UT history was in fact great during the run of the individuals mentioned. It shows that the best coaches in the schools history in their respective sports, where run off or mis-managed during the Hammy days (with the help of Adams and a few ignorant fans in the vocal minority).

Delmonico is one of the most successful coaches in SEC history let alone UT history. Fulmer is by far the most successful football coach in school history and one of the most successful in SEC history. Pearl was by far the most successful basketball coach, etc. etc. etc.

I hope some of you are enjoying the change I warned you about before and while it was going down. You heard it here first, none of UT's sports was ever as successful as it was when Hammy began to "fix" it with "his stamp". None will ever be that successful again. But hey, enjoy those checkerboards and tailgates. That is all you have left.

http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id...

http://www.wvmetronews.com/wvu.cfm?fu...

If Fulmer is by far the most successful football coach in school history, what did General Neyland contribute? Just curious...

FEARinSEC writes:

Thanks for stating the obvious, J.A. (That doesn't mean "John Adams", either)

flatrock writes:

in response to Ears_Whitworth_in_Orange_Pants:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

You are an idiot.

flatrock writes:

in response to VolzsFan:

Bigger than the school??? Maybe you should re-read this article. It spells out that the imagined greatness of UT history was in fact great during the run of the individuals mentioned. It shows that the best coaches in the schools history in their respective sports, where run off or mis-managed during the Hammy days (with the help of Adams and a few ignorant fans in the vocal minority).

Delmonico is one of the most successful coaches in SEC history let alone UT history. Fulmer is by far the most successful football coach in school history and one of the most successful in SEC history. Pearl was by far the most successful basketball coach, etc. etc. etc.

I hope some of you are enjoying the change I warned you about before and while it was going down. You heard it here first, none of UT's sports was ever as successful as it was when Hammy began to "fix" it with "his stamp". None will ever be that successful again. But hey, enjoy those checkerboards and tailgates. That is all you have left.

http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id...

http://www.wvmetronews.com/wvu.cfm?fu...

Get a life.

tenn32rebel writes:

in response to AlexAndersonAAradio:

The Lady Vol emblem should be replaced by the Power T. It's all University of Tennessee sports. The emblem is ugly anyway with blue in it. We aren't Kentucky we are the University of Tennessee by gosh!!!

Well, if everything is about winning, then the Lady Vol logo should replace the power T. How many National Championships has football won in the last 38 years???

Could you combine all the NCs from other sports at UT and get 8 National Championships which have been produced by the Lady Vol's basketball program??? Until you can start producing the hardware to go with those loose lips flapping in the wind, then shut up!!!

FYI, the blue in the Lady Vol logo is NOTHING like KY blue. Thought you football homers would know that.

Man, you must have REALLY HATED YOUR MOTHER!!!! Did she not teach you to respect & honor ladies?

NashvillePreds writes:

John Adams is a trite joke headed for retirement. Mr. Adams doesn't matter, and continually fights to overcome his own obscurity with subjective columns which have no base.
John, you are truly pathetic.

Fall_Creek_Vols writes:

It's an interesting concept, but go with me a second or two.

I am well-familiar with dealing with the Athletics Department and the University in general at Arkansas (my job required it). There is absolutely an attitude there that has existed for years. The unmistakable impression is that the University (and it's people) are superior to the general populace...and you, for example. They ACT like they are entitled and do so with no apologies. There are few professional situations I have found more distasteful.

A few comments here suggest the same thing exists in Big Orange Country. Can't comment because I don't know, but I sure hope that type of attitude doesn't exist in Knoxville.

...but what if it did? What if we really are changing the attitude and perception with these moves? What if it really is for the better? Who knows?

The problem is that it is all subjective...and opinions differ. We know how to do this thing called athletics the proper way. Pat Summitt showed us how for years. It's really not that difficult.

A little more stability would be nice.

feathersax writes:

One tradition that's unchanged: John Adams wearing his mom jeans & writing chaff. Hope a "turnover" at KNS is upcoming.

GBOEngineer writes:

in response to WetumpkaThumpa:

YOU CAN THANK MIKE HAMILTON FOR MOST OF THIS...

as well as the incredible improvements to facilities and financial stability of the departments.

I guess it was Hamilton's fault that Fulmer lost his touch, Bruce lied, and Pat got sick

ProfessionalHandicapper writes:

And Ut now is second to Vandy as the power school in the state. Vandy Final Four in Baseball World Series, A Bowl, NCAA Tourney. SEC Mens Basketball Tourney Champs and today can win the SEC Mens Baseball Tourney in Hoover. Vandy wins SEC Tourneys in Basketball and Baseball just a couple Months apart. Great to be a DORE!!

SevenT writes:

in response to FWBVol:

I had a lunch with a friend today that grew up an Alabama fan, got his bachelors in engineering from Auburn and his masters from UT...talking about someone that is messed up. This friend pointed out that starting with the last few years of Bear Bryant's career up until Saban arrived at Alabama, other than the NC the Tide won under Gene Stallings they were average at best in football.

We have had an inordinate amount of turnover the last few years, but we also had a long run of stability that many schools have never enjoyed.

Things will get better because Tennessee is Tennessee. We will rise from this period of transition and, if Derek Dooley can get the football program over the hump in the next year or two we should have another long run of stability in our big three men's sports for years to come.

Tennessee Football will be back one day. The big question is how long will it be before it will be anywhere close to where it was a few short years ago under Fulmer. I predict it will be at least 10-15 years because this program needs major surgery, make no mistake about it this is a very average football team.

Your theory that Dooley will get the program over the hump is at best a pipe dream. Just enjoy the losing

proudveteran writes:

Adams used the term Turnover U in his article...wish this would happen at the News Sentinel and specifically with the Sports Editor Adams.

clvolfan writes:

Thanks for bringing it up again,John.
I bet opposing coaches love your columns
at recruiting time.

rockytopinga writes:

John's writings have not caused the problems at Tennessee. Knocking him for writing the truth might make you feel better, but it does not change the facts. We have not got rid of the problems, the problems are in charge. Many of you guys keep saying wait, wait for what,More losing seasons in all sports, more players going to jail as a result of poor recruiting which comes from getting the spoils left over from winning programs.

Quit shooting the messangers like John Adams and look at the message. Tennessee sports is at
the bottom of the barrel and after we win a puny 3 or 4 football games this year, maybe some of you guys will see it.

pcorange writes:

Fulmer for AD

GONAVY writes:

in response to Fall_Creek_Vols:

It's an interesting concept, but go with me a second or two.

I am well-familiar with dealing with the Athletics Department and the University in general at Arkansas (my job required it). There is absolutely an attitude there that has existed for years. The unmistakable impression is that the University (and it's people) are superior to the general populace...and you, for example. They ACT like they are entitled and do so with no apologies. There are few professional situations I have found more distasteful.

A few comments here suggest the same thing exists in Big Orange Country. Can't comment because I don't know, but I sure hope that type of attitude doesn't exist in Knoxville.

...but what if it did? What if we really are changing the attitude and perception with these moves? What if it really is for the better? Who knows?

The problem is that it is all subjective...and opinions differ. We know how to do this thing called athletics the proper way. Pat Summitt showed us how for years. It's really not that difficult.

A little more stability would be nice.

well said...

Witch_Doctors writes:

in response to ProfessionalHandicapper:

And Ut now is second to Vandy as the power school in the state. Vandy Final Four in Baseball World Series, A Bowl, NCAA Tourney. SEC Mens Basketball Tourney Champs and today can win the SEC Mens Baseball Tourney in Hoover. Vandy wins SEC Tourneys in Basketball and Baseball just a couple Months apart. Great to be a DORE!!

Witch Doctor say you aint not Dore, You are a "hurt-feeling" Fulmerite at best but more likely a KNS troll without any creative bullets. Witch Doctor say only thing missing from your post is a visual of some fat guy in a trailer park in a wrestling mask typing them. lol,
Bones never lie.
*oh wait, its easy to see now! haha

Vol43 writes:

in response to tovolny:

Good post. Please post more often. It is nice to know that a sane person actually reads and posts these GVX items. Right after my shock treatments, they take my straight jacket off and let me read GVX twice a day.

I agree NY. Whenever I see FWB post, I stop and read. He's a sharp cookie.

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

Adams forgot to mention that Football got Hammy canned, not BB, Basketball, track or swimming..In other words, if the FB program was still a top five fixture all those sports combined would not matter and nobody would care..Just sayin'

tovolny writes:

in response to ProfessionalHandicapper:

And Ut now is second to Vandy as the power school in the state. Vandy Final Four in Baseball World Series, A Bowl, NCAA Tourney. SEC Mens Basketball Tourney Champs and today can win the SEC Mens Baseball Tourney in Hoover. Vandy wins SEC Tourneys in Basketball and Baseball just a couple Months apart. Great to be a DORE!!

CAN I TOUCH YOU?...CAN YOU FEEL THAT HALO?

Huttdawg100 writes:

in response to GBOEngineer:

as well as the incredible improvements to facilities and financial stability of the departments.

I guess it was Hamilton's fault that Fulmer lost his touch, Bruce lied, and Pat got sick

The employees weren't afraid of Hamilton, and they ran wild. He had no authority. Look at Kiffin at USC: no antics whatsoever. Pat Haden put his foot down.

Furthermore, Hamilton made coaching hires that were clearly poor decisions. He hires Todd Raleigh. He hires Kiffin instead of Gary Patterson, who wanted the job. Kiffin bolts, and Cutcliffe was willing to take the job, but hammy doesn't want Lance Thompson and Chaney to leave. He runs the track program into the ground. That's baseball, football, and track. Pearl had his issues. The conspiracy theorist in me thinks something funny happened there, but we'll never know.

UT is a well oiled money making machine when football is right. Those facilities would've been built if Big Bird was our AD. Hamilton was too nice to be AD.

born2ride writes:

Get rid of Dooley ASAP.

underthehill writes:

in response to ProfessionalHandicapper:

And Ut now is second to Vandy as the power school in the state. Vandy Final Four in Baseball World Series, A Bowl, NCAA Tourney. SEC Mens Basketball Tourney Champs and today can win the SEC Mens Baseball Tourney in Hoover. Vandy wins SEC Tourneys in Basketball and Baseball just a couple Months apart. Great to be a DORE!!

I hope Vandy wins today and goes on to win the College World Series..I would prefer it be UT but since it is not..Vandy is a TN school and SEC..hope they win..

creekroad writes:

in response to GerryOP:

Well said W_D. It took some big jingo to make that post ... but you're right.

Are you better off than you were 5years ago? Witchdr pathetic ......Adams screamed for all this "change" and now gets to point out that none of it worked...bet he gets a real kick jerking you change idiots around

budd#207344 writes:

in response to AlexAndersonAAradio:

The Lady Vol emblem should be replaced by the Power T. It's all University of Tennessee sports. The emblem is ugly anyway with blue in it. We aren't Kentucky we are the University of Tennessee by gosh!!!

The present Lady Vol emblem was designed to give the Lady Vols a separate niche in their marketing and sales pitch. It has resulted in increased donations because many people who attend Lady Vols events are not supporters of the men's side. It is also a way to build team unity among the women's teams. To remove it would cost money and serve no purpose

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