David Climer: Tennessee Vols barely survive Troy

Tennessee head coach Derek Dooley watches play against Troy at Neyland Stadium, Saturday, Nov. 3, 2012. Tennessee defeated Troy 55-48. (AMY SMOTHERMAN BURGESS/NEWS SENTINEL)

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Tennessee head coach Derek Dooley watches play against Troy at Neyland Stadium, Saturday, Nov. 3, 2012. Tennessee defeated Troy 55-48. (AMY SMOTHERMAN BURGESS/NEWS SENTINEL)

KNOXVILLE — Was this a victory or a stay of execution?

I’m leaning toward the latter. While you must give Derek Dooley credit for staying the course and coaching his Tennessee Vols to a 55-48 win over Troy on Saturday afternoon, the fallout is undeniable.

When your team must score two touchdowns in the final three minutes to beat a middle-of-the-pack Sun Belt team in a shootout, something is terribly, terribly amiss. There is simply no excuse for Tennessee to be this mediocre and this utterly defenseless.

It all comes back to Dooley. In his third season as UT coach, the Vols are just 4-5 and still haven’t beaten anyone of real consequence on his watch.

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BigOrangeDan writes:

Why can't this defense figure out who to cover?

123forVOLS writes:

Hey Climer, you lean where ever you desire. You are not the one who will execute Dooley or anyone else. We know your biased reporting will always show up but guess what, ugly as it was, the Vols won. I guess you are waiting for their big date in Nashville. That ought to be cool. Vandy has not won yet. On the other side, this defense really really needs something.

BigOrangeSports writes:

Sal Sunseri is over his head. Drop him back to the position coach he was at Bama and pay Chavis whatever he wants to take over the Defense.

Go Vols

DarthVol writes:

JMO, but for those that think another mistake has been made for a head coach then never fear. I don't see anyway this team goes 3-0 the rest of the way. And unfortunately, if you're a Dooley fan, that will be his undoing. So all this "Not enough time/big picture/he inherited a bad situation" talk will be moot.

VolNavy writes:

in response to BigOrangeSports:

Sal Sunseri is over his head. Drop him back to the position coach he was at Bama and pay Chavis whatever he wants to take over the Defense.

Go Vols

No question that Chavis is one of the best DCs in the country, but the LSU defense in the final minute of last night's game brought back lots of bad memories...

volaholic45 writes:

I'm afraid when all is said and done this will have been Dooley's signature win - the one that capsulizes his stewardship of the program.

FearTheVols1252 writes:

One theme i'm really tired of hearing from this team -'this is not what we're capable of'. We seem to hear this every week. Guess what... when we hear this week-in and week-out, that probably means you're NOT capable!

Defense = sickening

wallingdad writes:

in response to VolNavy:

No question that Chavis is one of the best DCs in the country, but the LSU defense in the final minute of last night's game brought back lots of bad memories...

I was thinking the same exact thing when I was watching last night. the LSU defense played brilliantly the whole night. on that final drive they backed off from what they had been doing. that was according to the announcer too. it seems LSU played a more prevent on the last alabama series. well...it prevented LSU from winning...I thought how many times i had seen that happen at UT with him. However he is a good coach. his record supports that.

Thermopyle writes:

This is the worst defense in UT history. Last year, UK beat UT with a makeshift QB. This team should finish no better than 4-8. Neither genetics (son of a coach) nor environment (working for one) make one a coach. Time to study for the bar exam and become a prosecutor because he's shown he can't mount a defense of any kind.

BigOrangeRock writes:

Four years without Chavis and this is what we get.

You who wanted Chavis gone are getting EXACTLY what you deserve.

The rock has spoken.

Sir_Spanky writes:

in response to BigOrangeRock:

Four years without Chavis and this is what we get.

You who wanted Chavis gone are getting EXACTLY what you deserve.

The rock has spoken.

Yeah, and Alabama went through him like a blow torch through toilet paper last night when it mattered. Give us all a break on that living in the past thing.

oldvoltimer62 writes:

Fire Cheeks and Dooley!

BigOrangeRock writes:

in response to Sir_Spanky:

Yeah, and Alabama went through him like a blow torch through toilet paper last night when it mattered. Give us all a break on that living in the past thing.

Yeah, better the #1 team and one TD, than the #100 team and 48 points.

You are a joke.

vq4nfo writes:

Maybe UT should form an Arena college football league. High scoring and not much defense needed.

tgiles1944#654264 writes:

It hurts so bad!

cltvol writes:

in response to 123forVOLS:

Hey Climer, you lean where ever you desire. You are not the one who will execute Dooley or anyone else. We know your biased reporting will always show up but guess what, ugly as it was, the Vols won. I guess you are waiting for their big date in Nashville. That ought to be cool. Vandy has not won yet. On the other side, this defense really really needs something.

If Climer or Adams (i think they are same person) names weren't on these articles no one would get upset. UT needs to be beaten up in the press. The truth hurts.

Also I think we win out. We will go 7-5 and get blistered in a bowl.

JDX47 writes:

in response to VolNavy:

No question that Chavis is one of the best DCs in the country, but the LSU defense in the final minute of last night's game brought back lots of bad memories...

I was thinking the same thing. While Chavis puts out good gameplans and if you get a big enough lead you are OK, his teams alway have a propensity to go soft prevent, resulting in just what we saw last night. That said, with this offense and a Chavis defense, we would likely be 8 - 1 right now.

bigdisbig writes:

Missouri and Vandy both will eat Doonothing's lunch. Troy won that game although the score says different. Everyone says the offense was prolific in other posts. I saw an offense that dropped passes they shouldn't have and Bray miss throws he should have made. The Troy QB was as good as Bray and if Bray goes pro he best take a good seat cushion with him for he will NEVER start an NFL game.

gillblog writes:

I believe there is blame for the offense here, too. Knowing how bad their defense is, the offense needs to concentrate on ball control, not just 90 second, quick strike drives that return the offense to the field in less than 5 minutes. Sure, the Vols can sling it around easily against a porous secondary like Troy, but some games (like this one) call for longer possession times and fewer personal records.

To me, this was an Im-moral victory; that is a win without victory.

BigOrangeFever76 (Inactive) writes:

You don't put a bandaid on a bullet wound. Sunseri is not even a bandaid. He is pathetic as a DC. If Dooley does not fire him TODAY, we will know that Hart forced CDD to hire Sunseri. If any of us did that poorly in our jobs, week after week, we would get canned....and DESERVE IT. Send that tub-o-lard back to Tuscaloozer.

voldoll73 writes:

in response to BigOrangeSports:

Sal Sunseri is over his head. Drop him back to the position coach he was at Bama and pay Chavis whatever he wants to take over the Defense.

Go Vols

BOS: Dream on about Chavis coming back to UT.
After being dumped and humiliated after so many faithful years playing and coaching here?? They could never pay him enough to return. Even if he did it wouldn't be two weeks until you would be calling for his firing again.

TKO writes:

Looked like division III ball, but wih a worse secondary.

underthehill writes:

Dooley's comments and Sunseri's contract lead me to believe Hart hired Sunseri and Dooley has no say in the defense..

pcorange writes:

in response to bigdisbig:

Missouri and Vandy both will eat Doonothing's lunch. Troy won that game although the score says different. Everyone says the offense was prolific in other posts. I saw an offense that dropped passes they shouldn't have and Bray miss throws he should have made. The Troy QB was as good as Bray and if Bray goes pro he best take a good seat cushion with him for he will NEVER start an NFL game.

Guess what. The QB and the WRs are not our problem. Sure, Bray makes bad throws sometimes and the WRs drop some they should have caught, but when you are averaging almost 40 points a game, they are not where the blame belongs. Even a mediocre defense would have us sitting at 8-1 right now with Bama being the only loss. The blame rests solely with Sal Sunseri and whoever hired him. If Hart forced CDD to hire him, then he should be let go and Dooley should get one more year with a DC of his own choosing. If Dooley picked Sunseri, then they should both be let go tomorrow.

thevoice writes:

in response to BigOrangeFever76:

You don't put a bandaid on a bullet wound. Sunseri is not even a bandaid. He is pathetic as a DC. If Dooley does not fire him TODAY, we will know that Hart forced CDD to hire Sunseri. If any of us did that poorly in our jobs, week after week, we would get canned....and DESERVE IT. Send that tub-o-lard back to Tuscaloozer.

My thoughts exactly. Hopefully we can get Sunseri on breach of contract (failure to perform).

laraccoon writes:

in response to VolNavy:

No question that Chavis is one of the best DCs in the country, but the LSU defense in the final minute of last night's game brought back lots of bad memories...

i was thinking the same thing as i watched the LSU fiasco unfold last night . Alabama is definitely beatable .

DwayneElizondoMountainDewHerbertCamacho writes:

in response to pcorange:

Guess what. The QB and the WRs are not our problem. Sure, Bray makes bad throws sometimes and the WRs drop some they should have caught, but when you are averaging almost 40 points a game, they are not where the blame belongs. Even a mediocre defense would have us sitting at 8-1 right now with Bama being the only loss. The blame rests solely with Sal Sunseri and whoever hired him. If Hart forced CDD to hire him, then he should be let go and Dooley should get one more year with a DC of his own choosing. If Dooley picked Sunseri, then they should both be let go tomorrow.

What competent Defensive Coordinator is going to come in and try to right this ship knowing that the likelihood of him losing his job at the end of 2013 is high? What sane person would move his family and his life on the off-chance that Dooley magically transforms into a great coach?

shipperman#280095 writes:

To all who praise Dooley as the savior of UT football, it will not happen. Nobody "fears the pants". Enjoy this season, because it will be his last. He has never proven anything in his career other than the fact that he is a good clipboard carrier.. If we want success, Dooley and Sunseri gotta go folks!

bigdisbig writes:

in response to shipperman#280095:

To all who praise Dooley as the savior of UT football, it will not happen. Nobody "fears the pants". Enjoy this season, because it will be his last. He has never proven anything in his career other than the fact that he is a good clipboard carrier.. If we want success, Dooley and Sunseri gotta go folks!

I agree with your comment in part however I don't think the UT Athletic Admin. will let this loser go because of money issues. The Haslam family are to blame for this mess in part. They wanted Fulmer gone (which was the WORST move in UT Vols history) so they fired Fulmer. Had Fulmer stayed and fired Clawsen for a quality offensive coordinator (we had Chavis on defense) the Volunteer nation would be winning once again.
I had hoped Troy would pull out this win for it would most likely seal Dooley's fate once and for all. I don't think that Hart could keep a guy who loses to Troy and is 3-6. However it is what it is at this point. Dooley will probably get another year if he finishes 6-6 and the Vol nation will suffer thru another embarassing year of Doonothing Ball. Unless some great coach comes available, Volunteer football will stay in an embarassing state for no quality recruit wants to play for a loser whose job is in question.

TKO writes:

The way Vandy played yesterday against Kentucky, you can throwthat o ein te loss colun along with Mizzu

TNORANGEDOGDAD writes:

in response to VolNavy:

No question that Chavis is one of the best DCs in the country, but the LSU defense in the final minute of last night's game brought back lots of bad memories...

Was'nt that Chavis defense called the mustang defense?

RockVegas writes:

in response to bigdisbig:

Missouri and Vandy both will eat Doonothing's lunch. Troy won that game although the score says different. Everyone says the offense was prolific in other posts. I saw an offense that dropped passes they shouldn't have and Bray miss throws he should have made. The Troy QB was as good as Bray and if Bray goes pro he best take a good seat cushion with him for he will NEVER start an NFL game.

I was thinking the same thing.I said that Troy and Vandy might beat us,and it was close with Troy.So now I'm thinking we may really be in trouble with our next two games.I just can't believe how bad we look...GBO.

pcorange writes:

in response to DwayneElizondoMountainDewHerbertCamacho:

What competent Defensive Coordinator is going to come in and try to right this ship knowing that the likelihood of him losing his job at the end of 2013 is high? What sane person would move his family and his life on the off-chance that Dooley magically transforms into a great coach?

At this point, I think anybody would be an improvement. Doesn't have to be a big name or coach at Alabama. A qualified HS DC would beat Sunseri.

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to Sir_Spanky:

Yeah, and Alabama went through him like a blow torch through toilet paper last night when it mattered. Give us all a break on that living in the past thing.

Thank you..I remember a game I attended in Fayetteville where UT's defense was shredded by Felix Jones and Darrin McFadden. I remember Chavis was UT's DC at the time, not to mention Monte Kiffin's Waterloo at Ole Miss. Any coach can have bad showings, but Sal's coaching is by far the worst on a consistent basis. I think it's funny how we resort to blaming other fans because the team is not playing well. When you're an SEC HC, OC, or DC and you are earning millions of dollars the criticism is also part of the gig. What fan/alumni is being paid millions to voice their opinion? None.

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to TKO:

The way Vandy played yesterday against Kentucky, you can throwthat o ein te loss colun along with Mizzu

Are you combining German & Hillbilly with this accent??

eduardo writes:

in response to 123forVOLS:

Hey Climer, you lean where ever you desire. You are not the one who will execute Dooley or anyone else. We know your biased reporting will always show up but guess what, ugly as it was, the Vols won. I guess you are waiting for their big date in Nashville. That ought to be cool. Vandy has not won yet. On the other side, this defense really really needs something.

how bout a competent head coach shipe??!!

licknpromise777#651578 writes:

in response to BigOrangeSports:

Sal Sunseri is over his head. Drop him back to the position coach he was at Bama and pay Chavis whatever he wants to take over the Defense.

Go Vols

For sure Sal is responsible for this mess but the talent level isn't great..The front four have size but are physically weak and the pass rush is pitiful..LB's should be a strength but have zero instincts or basic football smarts..Not sure what to say about the worst secondary in Vol history; it's like they spend zero time studying film and when they aren't getting beat in man they never look back for the ball..Iam not sure how we have taken an average secondary last year to the worst in Vol history..Waggner used to lead the team in INT but now is playing behind freshman..After yesterday these secondary coaches should resign out of red faced embarrassment!!!

Orangeblood13 writes:

Climber
The torch and pitch forks hang in your office

For the rest of us, your complaining to no ears

It's up to the brass not us, either cheer or set back and
See what happens

The whining is old

UTistheOLEMISSoftheEAST writes:

With Arkansas and Auburn hiring new Head Coaches this coming off-season, ut will be right back where they were when Dooley was hired. This will once again be a job that will be offered but not accepted several times before the next Dooley comes to Knoxville.

Might as well start here: blakeney@troy.edu

Too expect anything better is delusional. But then again, we are talking ut football here.

EIGHT

pcorange writes:

in response to UTistheOLEMISSoftheEAST:

With Arkansas and Auburn hiring new Head Coaches this coming off-season, ut will be right back where they were when Dooley was hired. This will once again be a job that will be offered but not accepted several times before the next Dooley comes to Knoxville.

Might as well start here: blakeney@troy.edu

Too expect anything better is delusional. But then again, we are talking ut football here.

EIGHT

I might remind you that UF is coming off getting their tails spanked against UGA and a lackluster performance against Mizzou. While it ain't as bad as UT, UF isn't in any danger of winning a NC anytime soon.

CCLC writes:

The Chief is doing a great job at LSU and Cutcliffe has turned Duke around. Both great coaches. Now tell me again ..... why did Tennessee fire these guys?

DeltaCharlie3 writes:

Dooley knows defense, Dooley knows coaching. Just look at all the significant wins he's had and the programs he has turned around.

He'll be fine, relax y'all!

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to CCLC:

The Chief is doing a great job at LSU and Cutcliffe has turned Duke around. Both great coaches. Now tell me again ..... why did Tennessee fire these guys?

Cucliffe left on his own accord, DA! If you're going to berate UT at least know what the H3ll you're talking about..David Cutcliffe left to coach Ole Miss and after returning to UT after Ole Miss fired him, he then accepted a position with Duke. That decision eventually cost Fulmer his job because he was unable to fill the void left by Cutcliffe..

jobrando#216494 writes:

in response to bigdisbig:

Missouri and Vandy both will eat Doonothing's lunch. Troy won that game although the score says different. Everyone says the offense was prolific in other posts. I saw an offense that dropped passes they shouldn't have and Bray miss throws he should have made. The Troy QB was as good as Bray and if Bray goes pro he best take a good seat cushion with him for he will NEVER start an NFL game.

Might get by Missouri but not Vandy. Franklin got a song going on the practice field titled "We always beat the chit out of Vandy" by CDD

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to DeltaCharlie3:

Dooley knows defense, Dooley knows coaching. Just look at all the significant wins he's had and the programs he has turned around.

He'll be fine, relax y'all!

Oh, FU must have won yesterday..Otherwise we wouldn't hear a peep out of losers like yourself.

DeltaCharlie3 writes:

in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE:

Oh, FU must have won yesterday..Otherwise we wouldn't hear a peep out of losers like yourself.

Of course they did, as they've done 8 of 9 times this year. Muschamp is the man, wait until he gets that offense re-stocked!

Meanwhile, give Dooley 3 more years, y'all will be back! Fear the pants!

lenoaz writes:

Does anyone else see similarities on these Boards with ones that are for Kentucky? Football sucks....fire them all....can't wait for basketball!! UT football, as frustrating as it is right now, is still a great thing. Feel fortunate if you live in the area and are able to be around town or campus on game day. Work took me to AZ after growing up in Knoxville and fully entrenched in Big Orange Football and this time of the year is torture not being able to be there. UT will be back. Too much pride not to. Changes will be made. Support the program and players and enjoy the atmosphere. It won't be long before the last game is over this season and everyone will be wishing they were at even a mediocre game just to be THERE! GBO

utvols1 writes:

in response to VolNavy:

No question that Chavis is one of the best DCs in the country, but the LSU defense in the final minute of last night's game brought back lots of bad memories...

Amen brother.....I was thinking the same thing. Mustang flop. I'll bet there is lots of finger pointing this am in BTR. Miles had some classic Les moments....on side kick when ur up??

manniesghost1903 writes:

I listened to Big Orange Sunday this morning on 104.5. If you want to hear this show you can go to 104.5 website to hear the entire recording. Doug Matthews brought up 5 points he felt were long term solutions to "fixing" this situation. Basically, UT needs Board Members who are willing to work for the best interest of the University rather just be on the board to add to their indiviual resumes. The Athletic Director should report directly to the University President rather than the Chancellor and the Faculty Senate should be kept out of the Athletic Department business. You can listen to the show for specifics because I can't recall all the points he used to justify his recommendations. According to Coach Matthews the Athletic Department has gone down hill since the reitrements of Joe Johnson and Doug Dickey. I think we can all pretty much agree on that.

John Chavis will not come back to UT unless the organization situation is changed and the parties who started this downhill slide have been removed.

Coach Matthews also stated UT needs an Athletic Director who can make decisions without hesitation and give straight yes and no answers. He says if Dave Hart is the man for the job he must be able to perform in that manner.

I suppose the bottom line is firing Derek Dooley is not going to solve all UT's problems because there is more to be fixed in the long term. However UT must start the repairs immediately.

JonGrudensAgent writes:

in response to 123forVOLS:

Hey Climer, you lean where ever you desire. You are not the one who will execute Dooley or anyone else. We know your biased reporting will always show up but guess what, ugly as it was, the Vols won. I guess you are waiting for their big date in Nashville. That ought to be cool. Vandy has not won yet. On the other side, this defense really really needs something.

What is so biased about stating obvious facts?

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