Govols247: Where things stand this morning with Tennessee's coaching situation

Tennessee head coach Derek Dooley gives a news conference on Monday at the UT campus. He told reporters that news about his coaching future was toughest on his family. "The hardest thing is they're seeing things that are contrary to what their dad tells them." 
  
  
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Tennessee head coach Derek Dooley gives a news conference on Monday at the UT campus. He told reporters that news about his coaching future was toughest on his family. "The hardest thing is they're seeing things that are contrary to what their dad tells them." MICHAEL PATRICK/NEWS SENTINEL

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Derek Dooley addresses questions about his job

Since a four-overtime loss to Missouri on Saturday afternoon, there has been much speculation about Derek Dooley's future as coach at Tennessee.

Monday seemed to be "business as usual" for Dooley and his team - with a few extra questions about Dooley's job security for the coach and his players.

Following Dooley's afternoon news conference, there seemed to be some confusion among fans as to where things stand right now.

We hope to clarify a few things for you.

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GloryDays writes:

Hart is not going to fire Dooley until he has another coach lined up and some donations to cover the cost. Monday November 26th Hart will announce Dooley has been fired. On or before December 10th Hart will announce the new coach.

gdkvols#660587 writes:

The FACT is that given the same Offensive Coord. for three years, Dooley has presided over a prolific Offense (despite our defense not being able to get off the field!).

How quickly people forget that Justin Wilcox left after his second year (when we finished 28th nationally in defense, 13 in passing defense). If we had just that same defense as last year, we might be undefeated.

Firing Dooley insures that Bray, Hunter, and Patterson leave. The smart thing to do here is to absorb the cost, and get a PROVEN DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR for next year.

chuckfromwoodberry writes:

Keep this in the 247 section if you're not going to let us read the article.

volaholic45 writes:

Yathink Dooley's firing will be held for the pay side?

utvolorange writes:

this gruden thing is not going to happen he wasnt that good of a coach in the first place he took over a team that was given to him. The toledo coach, Tim Beckman would be a awesome coach for UT the guy is a defensive genuis especially with secondary. Or how about the southern miss coach, larry fedura the guy knows defense and is a excellent recruiter, heck even the middle tennesse coach would be a better coach than gruden.

SavTnVol writes:

in response to chuckfromwoodberry:

Keep this in the 247 section if you're not going to let us read the article.

I agree! 247 is a POS for making the real UT fans pay to read about their VOLS...I wonder what they do with the ad money they get for posting ads and links on their POS articles..

proudveteran writes:

Either hire John Chavis or Peyton Manning as the head coach. Chavis would be the answer on defense. Manning does not have much time left in the NFL, has been a "coach" on the field for years, does not need the money and is loyal to UT and would like to see the Vols a factor on the football field again.

shipperman#280095 writes:

in response to gdkvols#660587:

The FACT is that given the same Offensive Coord. for three years, Dooley has presided over a prolific Offense (despite our defense not being able to get off the field!).

How quickly people forget that Justin Wilcox left after his second year (when we finished 28th nationally in defense, 13 in passing defense). If we had just that same defense as last year, we might be undefeated.

Firing Dooley insures that Bray, Hunter, and Patterson leave. The smart thing to do here is to absorb the cost, and get a PROVEN DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR for next year.

Dooley has a career losing record and has NEVER beaten a top 25 team in his career. Now that he is no longer there, LA Tech is in the top 25. Dooley is gone, bet on it

shipperman#280095 writes:

in response to proudveteran:

Either hire John Chavis or Peyton Manning as the head coach. Chavis would be the answer on defense. Manning does not have much time left in the NFL, has been a "coach" on the field for years, does not need the money and is loyal to UT and would like to see the Vols a factor on the football field again.

Neither will happen. Players would never meet Manning's high expectations and Chavis is quite happy where he is

TheStupidPolice writes:

in response to proudveteran:

Either hire John Chavis or Peyton Manning as the head coach. Chavis would be the answer on defense. Manning does not have much time left in the NFL, has been a "coach" on the field for years, does not need the money and is loyal to UT and would like to see the Vols a factor on the football field again.

I hate repeat offenders. Sir, you have the right to remain silent...

pcshowtime writes:

in response to gdkvols#660587:

The FACT is that given the same Offensive Coord. for three years, Dooley has presided over a prolific Offense (despite our defense not being able to get off the field!).

How quickly people forget that Justin Wilcox left after his second year (when we finished 28th nationally in defense, 13 in passing defense). If we had just that same defense as last year, we might be undefeated.

Firing Dooley insures that Bray, Hunter, and Patterson leave. The smart thing to do here is to absorb the cost, and get a PROVEN DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR for next year.

You are right on most points I do not think undefeated but one loss and sec east champs is a big possibility. He had 9 of 11 starters back on defense.

Dooley could have hired a competent 4-3 defensive coordinator with a similar style to wilcox but he went for a 3-4 in a year he needed to win. This is the equivalent of taking a wishbone offense and trying to implement a spread passing attack. Do not start with the Hart hired Sunseri stuff if that was the case dooley should have said something by now. I also feel special teams is still pretty bad except for the return game with patterson.

I said from the beginning of the year this Defensive scheme change in a year dooley's job is on the line is his stupidest career move since arriving in Knoxville. If he could have left well enough alone and stayed with the 4-3 He could have been up for sec coach of the year awards. Instead it is going to cost him his job.

go_to_work (Inactive) writes:

Spurrier!!!

atnvol#283282 writes:

When you click the article link you go to the 247 website which has another link entitled "What I'm Hearing" which you have to be a paying member to read. You are not "hearing" one dang thing that is not being bantered about on the media for free. Get real.

JDX47 writes:

in response to go_to_work:

Spurrier!!!

Why would anyone want Spurrier? His best days are behind him. And why would he come? He already has his recruiting class in place and has a great base to work from and figures he can pound TN for years to come.

ccjackson40#254643 writes:

in response to gdkvols#660587:

The FACT is that given the same Offensive Coord. for three years, Dooley has presided over a prolific Offense (despite our defense not being able to get off the field!).

How quickly people forget that Justin Wilcox left after his second year (when we finished 28th nationally in defense, 13 in passing defense). If we had just that same defense as last year, we might be undefeated.

Firing Dooley insures that Bray, Hunter, and Patterson leave. The smart thing to do here is to absorb the cost, and get a PROVEN DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR for next year.

The smart thing to do is keep him one more year is the dumbest thing UT could do. Let's say all those juniors stay if Dooley is retained then where will we be after next year when they graduate. Teams on probation are killing Dooley in recruiting (Ohio St. & USC) not to mention the national powerhouses that aren't limited including Vandy who has a better class than us right now. So we can keep him another year and maybe have a decent year next year then go 2-10 the following year or we can change now and hopefully salvage this class and then hopefully land a top 5 class next year that way we will be hurting more for experience than talent. 2 more Dooley recruiting classes isn't something UT can afford right now.

philgreen5#410561 writes:

With the win/loss record posted,the bad records that have been broken, and dwindling fan support, I don't see how bringing DD back for another year is even an option. We are now 12th out of 14 teams in the SEC, the fact that we will be an underdog to Vandy this week is enough to warrant a coaching change.

orangepowerT writes:

Here is something new.Could someone please tell me why Kentucky has begun to wear the checker board look on there uniforms over the past couple of years, both basketball and football.

Orangepuddinskin writes:

in response to orangepowerT:

Here is something new.Could someone please tell me why Kentucky has begun to wear the checker board look on there uniforms over the past couple of years, both basketball and football.

Maybe because they feel it is their right since they have owned us in Football and Basketball the past year. LOL

gillblog writes:

in response to gdkvols#660587:

The FACT is that given the same Offensive Coord. for three years, Dooley has presided over a prolific Offense (despite our defense not being able to get off the field!).

How quickly people forget that Justin Wilcox left after his second year (when we finished 28th nationally in defense, 13 in passing defense). If we had just that same defense as last year, we might be undefeated.

Firing Dooley insures that Bray, Hunter, and Patterson leave. The smart thing to do here is to absorb the cost, and get a PROVEN DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR for next year.

Opting to keep Dooley and hire a new DC makes sense only if you truly believe Dooley can take UT to a top-10 level consistantly over the next 3 years. There is no evidence he can do that, but if you believe he can then you must also believe he is perceptive enough to maintain a top level coaching staff thru those years, i.e. not making mistakes like Sunseri again. The HC has to be the CEO of the program in a way which Dooley appears unable to be.
For me, just his continued problems with game-management is enough to either fire him outright or demand he turn over in-game control to someone else and simply prowl the sidelines as a figurehead during the games. Sort of like what Joe Paterno was doing the past 5 years or so.

Dooley has a very good offense this year, and only this year; for me that one accomplishment is no justification for giving him the salary of an HC.

Big_Orange_Aide writes:

in response to gdkvols#660587:

The FACT is that given the same Offensive Coord. for three years, Dooley has presided over a prolific Offense (despite our defense not being able to get off the field!).

How quickly people forget that Justin Wilcox left after his second year (when we finished 28th nationally in defense, 13 in passing defense). If we had just that same defense as last year, we might be undefeated.

Firing Dooley insures that Bray, Hunter, and Patterson leave. The smart thing to do here is to absorb the cost, and get a PROVEN DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR for next year.

At one time, I felt the same way you do. This is going to cost the university alot of money that, frankly, they don't seem to have. The poor on field decisions at Kentucky were hard to deal with; however, Missouri did it for me. The last forty seconds of regulation was just horrible. Even the trolls have stopped their yapping for the most part. I can't support the HC any longer. What is best for the team? Dooley needs to be given 5 MILLION dollars NOT to coach this team. UNBELIEVABLE

dubyson writes:

Hire Phil back and bite the bullet of being wrong about firing him. He has had time to sit back and watch his beloved Tennessee spin out of control. I hate when everyone says that it was his fault and he put the spiral in motion. Those people are crazy. He is a master of motivating kids to come to Tennessee and he can stabilize this program. When he wants to hang it up, the people in charge need to do it the right way this time and then build from there. There is not too many times in life you get a second chance to make things right. Now is that time!..............or maybe not, whatever.

snuffysmiff writes:

in response to utvolorange:

this gruden thing is not going to happen he wasnt that good of a coach in the first place he took over a team that was given to him. The toledo coach, Tim Beckman would be a awesome coach for UT the guy is a defensive genuis especially with secondary. Or how about the southern miss coach, larry fedura the guy knows defense and is a excellent recruiter, heck even the middle tennesse coach would be a better coach than gruden.

Larry Fedora is in his first year as HC of North Carolina.

exlineman writes:

Hire Spurrier and get the best coach in the country. With UT's facilities and name Spurrier would love to have this team. I could care less about what some of you idots think about him. He wants to come to UT, so bring him on and you idots that don't like it, stay home with your momma and maybe she can get some of you to man up and be a man.

Spurrier is recognized as the best coach in the country in light of Saban and others. He can bring the great quarterbacks and running backs in and coach them up. Make an agreement with him in a contract that Peyton will be brought on board as an assistant to be the next head coach when he retires within the next 5 yrs.

traderjoe writes:

in response to proudveteran:

Either hire John Chavis or Peyton Manning as the head coach. Chavis would be the answer on defense. Manning does not have much time left in the NFL, has been a "coach" on the field for years, does not need the money and is loyal to UT and would like to see the Vols a factor on the football field again.

What you talking bout? lol...Peyton and the broncs are going to the superbowl. Bones & Jack Black don't lie.

jkleno#393970 writes:

Tom Landry or Bum Phillips

6972 writes:

An FYI thing: Hart hasn't called me yet....but I am staying close to the phone.

volsmith writes:

IMO, Dave Hart was hired by Jimmy Cheek to cut expenses by firing coaches or retiring them early. I can't see them spending a bunch of money for a big name coach who might not work out anyway. Maybe they should give Dooley another year, since money is their main objective.

pupvol writes:

in response to utvolorange:

this gruden thing is not going to happen he wasnt that good of a coach in the first place he took over a team that was given to him. The toledo coach, Tim Beckman would be a awesome coach for UT the guy is a defensive genuis especially with secondary. Or how about the southern miss coach, larry fedura the guy knows defense and is a excellent recruiter, heck even the middle tennesse coach would be a better coach than gruden.

or Chris Petersen! Gruden had ninety something wins and eighty something losses! I don't understand all the Gruden talk!He was fired in his last job! what we need isn't another loser! he won the super bowl with a team somebody else assembled, then went down hill after that!

ccjackson40#254643 writes:

in response to utvolorange:

this gruden thing is not going to happen he wasnt that good of a coach in the first place he took over a team that was given to him. The toledo coach, Tim Beckman would be a awesome coach for UT the guy is a defensive genuis especially with secondary. Or how about the southern miss coach, larry fedura the guy knows defense and is a excellent recruiter, heck even the middle tennesse coach would be a better coach than gruden.

doesn't every coach have a team given to him? he won a super bowl with the same bunch tony dungy couldn't win a playoff game with. also the team he built in oakland that he left to go to tampa bay was in that same super bowl too so it's not like he didn't know how to build a team. i don't think gruden will be the next coach but to say those other guys would be better really makes me question your knowledge of football.

Mr_UT_Vol writes:

Gruden was fired with a 9 - 7 (100 - 85 over-all) record .... check your facts. Not a losing coach.

ProfessionalHandicapper writes:

It's funny nobody mentions Sean Payton who was just released from his contract with the Saints by the NFL.

SummittsCourt writes:

in response to proudveteran:

Either hire John Chavis or Peyton Manning as the head coach. Chavis would be the answer on defense. Manning does not have much time left in the NFL, has been a "coach" on the field for years, does not need the money and is loyal to UT and would like to see the Vols a factor on the football field again.

I see idiocy doesn't take a day off does it.

illinoisvolfan writes:

in response to utvolorange:

this gruden thing is not going to happen he wasnt that good of a coach in the first place he took over a team that was given to him. The toledo coach, Tim Beckman would be a awesome coach for UT the guy is a defensive genuis especially with secondary. Or how about the southern miss coach, larry fedura the guy knows defense and is a excellent recruiter, heck even the middle tennesse coach would be a better coach than gruden.

Beckman is no longer at Toledo, he is finishing his first season at Illinois. And from all the reports coming out of Champaign, it might be his last. The Illini are currently 2-8, even worse than the Vols. Rumors are he's lost the respect of his team. He has definitely lost weight, the guy has dropped almost 25 pounds during U of I's six game losing streak. Losing must bother him more than it does Sunseri. Sal still looks like the winner of the Buddy Hackett look-a-like contest.

brokendownoldvol writes:

Dooley should have fired Sunseri esp. after the Troy game. He would at least have gotten some fan support for that. Fulmer fired Sanders midseason in 05 to save his job.

brod writes:

dooley can't be kept at this point. the fan base is totally irate after the missouri meltdown. it's time to cut ties with him and both coordinators.

signalcorps writes:

in response to chuckfromwoodberry:

Keep this in the 247 section if you're not going to let us read the article.

liston to hart it's the only place these reporters get their info from,,,hart's office is tight with leaking infomation ,,,he's the horses mouth

6972 writes:

It seems to me that coming to UT to coach right now would have about as much appeal as being married to Whoopi Goldberg....uh maybe even less.

willtowin writes:

in response to pcshowtime:

You are right on most points I do not think undefeated but one loss and sec east champs is a big possibility. He had 9 of 11 starters back on defense.

Dooley could have hired a competent 4-3 defensive coordinator with a similar style to wilcox but he went for a 3-4 in a year he needed to win. This is the equivalent of taking a wishbone offense and trying to implement a spread passing attack. Do not start with the Hart hired Sunseri stuff if that was the case dooley should have said something by now. I also feel special teams is still pretty bad except for the return game with patterson.

I said from the beginning of the year this Defensive scheme change in a year dooley's job is on the line is his stupidest career move since arriving in Knoxville. If he could have left well enough alone and stayed with the 4-3 He could have been up for sec coach of the year awards. Instead it is going to cost him his job.

As bad as the defense is, there are many more issues that led to Dooley's demise. His lack of game management is paramount.How many times have we seen poor clock management? Too many or too few players on the field? Poor use of timeouts? Dooley just seems to find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Theo writes:

I don't care - I don't care who is the coach next year - Dooley, Gruden, Smart, Elmo.
But, for the love of God pleaasaaaaase beat Vandy. I had three Vandy lovers come up to me yesterday to tell me how bad they were going to beat us. I don't see it but it could happen given our propensity to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. After we beat Vandy and Kentucky we should all have this conversation. Right now all it is doing is increasingly the likelihood of a distracted loss in Nashville and then 20 years of gloating Vandy fans (they are sure they are bound for the BCS next year) They don't seem to get that the arrogant little p..... they have now will be leaving in the next 24 months.
Go Vols, beat West End Senior High!

SignalMtnVol writes:

in response to proudveteran:

Either hire John Chavis or Peyton Manning as the head coach. Chavis would be the answer on defense. Manning does not have much time left in the NFL, has been a "coach" on the field for years, does not need the money and is loyal to UT and would like to see the Vols a factor on the football field again.

Are you kidding? If Manning keeps his current pace up, he will win a Fifth (5th) MVP award. 21td to 6int with over 2,700yds in 9 games. On top of that, Denver is 6-3, winning 4 in a row and really hitting their stride. 4-5 more years in the NFL, minimum.

bigdaddy37821 writes:

in response to ProfessionalHandicapper:

It's funny nobody mentions Sean Payton who was just released from his contract with the Saints by the NFL.

Sean Payton would be the very best hire.

Vols4life77 writes:

in response to proudveteran:

Either hire John Chavis or Peyton Manning as the head coach. Chavis would be the answer on defense. Manning does not have much time left in the NFL, has been a "coach" on the field for years, does not need the money and is loyal to UT and would like to see the Vols a factor on the football field again.

Chavis will not be a head coach, he is comfortable being a coordinator and why would he want to leave a LSU defense that he has built into one of the best in the country? Because he loves tenn. lol.. Cutcliffe MAY be the only one that could get him back and that's a stretch. The Peyton idea is just laughable. Hahahaha..... Peyton is back to form and barring injury he could play 3 or 4 more years. And I've never understood why everyone picks him to coach. Because he COULD be good? Who says he wants to coach when he's done. Why would he. He has plenty of money and doesn't need the stress. I've said all along Peyton is more of a CEO, owner type guy than a coach. It's a crazy fantasy that is pretty absurd.

Vols4life77 writes:

in response to utvolorange:

this gruden thing is not going to happen he wasnt that good of a coach in the first place he took over a team that was given to him. The toledo coach, Tim Beckman would be a awesome coach for UT the guy is a defensive genuis especially with secondary. Or how about the southern miss coach, larry fedura the guy knows defense and is a excellent recruiter, heck even the middle tennesse coach would be a better coach than gruden.

To want Tim Beckman, Larry fedura or Rick stockstill over Gruden has just lowered your football IQ to the Forrest Gump range. Gruden will not be the next tenn coach as his love is pro and he can get more control in the NFL . Who would walk in a room on the recruiting trail and automatically have the most clout. If your answer is any of the above except Gruden your football brain must be checked immediately. He would have a major edge with his NFL background and offensive and QB knowledge. Gruden Is a really good coach but not happening. I think AL golden would be a candidate that would be likely considering the mess he didn't know he was getting into at Miami.

Vols4life77 writes:

in response to JDX47:

Why would anyone want Spurrier? His best days are behind him. And why would he come? He already has his recruiting class in place and has a great base to work from and figures he can pound TN for years to come.

Exactly

redskinvol1 writes:

PAY GRUDEN WHATEVER HE WANTS!!

hueypilot writes:

in response to Theo:

I don't care - I don't care who is the coach next year - Dooley, Gruden, Smart, Elmo.
But, for the love of God pleaasaaaaase beat Vandy. I had three Vandy lovers come up to me yesterday to tell me how bad they were going to beat us. I don't see it but it could happen given our propensity to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. After we beat Vandy and Kentucky we should all have this conversation. Right now all it is doing is increasingly the likelihood of a distracted loss in Nashville and then 20 years of gloating Vandy fans (they are sure they are bound for the BCS next year) They don't seem to get that the arrogant little p..... they have now will be leaving in the next 24 months.
Go Vols, beat West End Senior High!

Enjoy this. It is only fun to beat Vandy when they think they might win. They can taste it. Then jerk it right out of their mouth. Sweet!!! Franklin will be gone somewhere if not at the end of this year, then next. Vanderbilt is the tightwad of the SEC and won't match a big offer and Franklin will walk.

DwayneElizondoMountainDewHerbertCamacho writes:

in response to volsmith:

IMO, Dave Hart was hired by Jimmy Cheek to cut expenses by firing coaches or retiring them early. I can't see them spending a bunch of money for a big name coach who might not work out anyway. Maybe they should give Dooley another year, since money is their main objective.

What is so complicated about the idea that the big money donors will pool together to pay Dooley's buy out....which can be paid over the next four years. Hell, UT's inclusion in the SEC network is set to bring in $15 million extra dollars per year next year.

Even if UT didn't have funds available, paying Dooley's buy out would still make sense. Saving $5 million in buyout money doesn't mean a whole lot when you're losing $2 million a year because of the horrible play of the team. I makes even less sense when ancillary businesses that rely on fan enthusiasm and travel to Knoxville are losing money.

Get educated or, if you are educated, stop trying to make up excuses to keep this pathetic head coach.

djohnnyg writes:

in response to amyinsparta:

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Ha. I DID look it up smart alek.

Spurrier went 7-5 his FIRST yr. at USC and beat UT and Florida while doing so.

Year 2 he went 8-5

No better than Dooley?

Dooley has started 0-5 his first 3 yr's at UT and this year 0-6 in the SEC.

Maybe YOU should look things up before posting totally made up, false information and acting all cocky about it to boot.

Pathetic effort on your part.

What's funny is YOU were the one that said to "look it up"

Too funny.

VolFanInTheBoro (Inactive) writes:

in response to collegegrovebilly:

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sounds like you with your self-proclaimed "greatness"

rbwtn writes:

la de dah de dah

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