Mark Wiedmer: Derek Dooley saga continues, though sequel not likely

Tennessee head coach Derek Dooley gives a news conference on Monday at the UT campus. He told reporters that news about his coaching future was toughest on his family. "The hardest thing is they're seeing things that are contrary to what their dad tells them." 
  
  
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Tennessee head coach Derek Dooley gives a news conference on Monday at the UT campus. He told reporters that news about his coaching future was toughest on his family. "The hardest thing is they're seeing things that are contrary to what their dad tells them." MICHAEL PATRICK/NEWS SENTINEL

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KNOXVILLE - Though officially off-limits for media interviews Monday, Tennessee quarterback Tyler Bray couldn't resist having a little fun at the reporters' expense.

Knowing at least a few of us ink-stained wretches were still lingering about in the indoor practice facility after talking to the Volunteers who were available, Bray shouted loud enough for all to hear: "I just got a text from my dad. He wanted to know if I knew that they'd just fired Coach [Derek] Dooley. This is sooooo unbelievable."

Bray laughed as he spoke. It's good to know that at least one person within the football program can find something funny in this rapidly deteriorating situation.

Off the record, in hushed tones urgent enough to make Watergate's Deep Throat proud, there seems to be a near consensus that Dooley's days in charge of the Vols are now down to less than two weeks, his probable pink slip to arrive within 48 hours of the end of the Kentucky game on Nov. 24.

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A_Voice_ofReason writes:

Ding ding ding, here comes the idiot train. For those of you who actually believe Dooley hasn't been fired have their heads in the sand. It happened last month folks. Dooley says Hart hasn't made up his mind? LOL, I remember Hamilton saying the same thing when Fulmer was fired.

Dooley is gone, and there has been a plan in place for 2 months (yes, even before Dooley was canned) to get his replacement in. UT will be prepared this time...this won't be another Kiffin repeat.

volnsc writes:

in response to A_Voice_ofReason:

Ding ding ding, here comes the idiot train. For those of you who actually believe Dooley hasn't been fired have their heads in the sand. It happened last month folks. Dooley says Hart hasn't made up his mind? LOL, I remember Hamilton saying the same thing when Fulmer was fired.

Dooley is gone, and there has been a plan in place for 2 months (yes, even before Dooley was canned) to get his replacement in. UT will be prepared this time...this won't be another Kiffin repeat.

UT prepared? I see you haven't tried the twelve step programs yet.

jone8191#247590 writes:

Wiedmer describes the situation perfectly. Hart's silence means either he is still open to giving Dooley one more season or he is just waiting for this one to end and hope to avoid another Wyoming fiasco like when Fulmer was canned. Note to Hart: If you stay with Dooley for another year, whether he wins out and some minor bowl game, you are going to have a full scale fan mutiny on your hands. Even Vandy and Kentucky make coaching changes after a run this bad.

killervol69 writes:

I'm sure the wheels have been in motion for some time now, and the newly yet-to-be-announced HC hopefully wll be a doozie! Stay tuned!

SavTnVol writes:

well now, didn't Mr Bray really show some leadership qualities there?

smokysbark writes:

in response to A_Voice_ofReason:

Ding ding ding, here comes the idiot train. For those of you who actually believe Dooley hasn't been fired have their heads in the sand. It happened last month folks. Dooley says Hart hasn't made up his mind? LOL, I remember Hamilton saying the same thing when Fulmer was fired.

Dooley is gone, and there has been a plan in place for 2 months (yes, even before Dooley was canned) to get his replacement in. UT will be prepared this time...this won't be another Kiffin repeat.

I believe he is gone as well but I believe the Miss St game was his undoing. He lost me after the Florida game this year. As for UT being prepared ... maybe but there is also the possibility that they aren't as prepared as you think. If there was a big name coach waiting in the wings I believe the announcement would have already been made. I also believe that the Cheek and the UTAD are having a turf war that is making this process that much harder. This program is in shambles from the equipment manager to the Chancellor. This job has to look like Mount Everest to even the most seasoned coaching veterans. We'll see what happens.

TommyJack writes:

in response to A_Voice_ofReason:

Ding ding ding, here comes the idiot train. For those of you who actually believe Dooley hasn't been fired have their heads in the sand. It happened last month folks. Dooley says Hart hasn't made up his mind? LOL, I remember Hamilton saying the same thing when Fulmer was fired.

Dooley is gone, and there has been a plan in place for 2 months (yes, even before Dooley was canned) to get his replacement in. UT will be prepared this time...this won't be another Kiffin repeat.

and you know this, how?

Hounddawg writes:

It's gotta be David Howell.

ProfessionalHandicapper writes:

I told you people 3 weeks ago Vandy would be favored in this game. The Vegas Line today is Vandy -4 over UT. I can't ever remember Vandy opening as the favorite in this game. What more needs to be said about the depths this program has fallen.

pcshowtime writes:

What might have been if dooley could have made the right DC hire. probably not undefeated but one loss and sec east champs is a big possibility. He had 9 of 11 starters back on last years 27th ranked defense.

Dooley could have hired a competent 4-3 defensive coordinator with a similar style to wilcox but he went for a 3-4 in a year he needed to win. This is the equivalent of taking a wishbone offense and trying to implement a spread passing attack. Do not start with the Hart hired Sunseri stuff if that was the case dooley should have said something by now. I also feel special teams is still pretty bad except for the return game with patterson.

I said from the beginning of the year this Defensive scheme change in a year dooley's job is on the line is his stupidest career move since arriving in Knoxville. If he could have left well enough alone and stayed with the 4-3 He could have been up for sec coach of the year awards. Instead it is going to cost him his job.

LifetimeVolFan98 writes:

I honestly think that Hart is letting the season play out. 6-6 with a bowl game??? Maybe he stays on for one more year. Another loss and the announcement will come after that particular loss. Maybe as early as Monday.

smokysbark writes:

in response to ProfessionalHandicapper:

I told you people 3 weeks ago Vandy would be favored in this game. The Vegas Line today is Vandy -4 over UT. I can't ever remember Vandy opening as the favorite in this game. What more needs to be said about the depths this program has fallen.

Nothing more needs be said.

And one other thing ... it's a very sad day when I can't shrug off my UT football funk enough to go crazy over the bammers getting skull drug up and down the field by a freshman qb. Sad days indeed.

LifetimeVolFan98 writes:

in response to smokysbark:

Nothing more needs be said.

And one other thing ... it's a very sad day when I can't shrug off my UT football funk enough to go crazy over the bammers getting skull drug up and down the field by a freshman qb. Sad days indeed.

At least we have roundball in Puerto Rico this week....should be a fun week of b-ball!! GBO!

SandySpringsVol writes:

Weidmer is the same guy who wrote the article: "Sunseri Hire a Win for UT Vols" earlier this year, wherein he heaped effusive praise on Dooley, Hart and Sunseri. Keep that in mind when you're basking in the "knowledge" he chooses to impart on us regular folks.

StoneJackBaller writes:

The Derek Dooley era is finally coming to an end. We gave him plenty of time and chances. The bottom line is that he can not manage a game...period. I've never seen such incompetence. Wasted time outs, substitution problems, time management. I like Dooley, just not as a coach. I think he is a good man and wish him the best of luck.

I just hope we don't screw up again. We have to have a proven winner. Someone who is sure to turn us around. I hope someone with that capacity wants the job.

The_Mayor writes:

What a hypocritical article. It is the media types who have created this dramatic circus-like saga. Coach Dooley, his staff and the players continue to be respectful, cordial, responsive, rational, task minded and positive toward the next game. Everybody else insists on high stakes drama. The media makes matters worse, and none more so than John Adams and his taunting with reckless names thrown out there like Bobby "Filth" Petrino, Tommy "The Game Passed Me By When It Passed Fulmer By" Tubberville, and David "I Got Fired At Ole Miss" Cutcliffe. He does this to ruffle feathers and get shock value reactions. And Weidmer is the pot calling the kettle black.

volinlm writes:

CDD may well be fired. But, this episode really demonstrates what the media will hang on to get some 'juice'. Reporters no longer exist, apparently. Just gossip columnists. When Tom Siler and Marvin West passed, good journalism passed with them. Too bad.

underthehill writes:

circus, soap opera, reality show rolled up in one..as bad as UT needs money for the buy-outs..sell it to a TV network..could also save money on advertising and wouldn't need to hire a search firm..but didn't a search firm help UT find Hart..with success like that maybe some fat donor needs to step up and make a donation for another search firm hire..and in all this ..the lawsuits are lurking for another chapter in this story..I'm starting to think UT does have a money problem as Hart reported to the bama media...and maybe the fat cat donors are asking what are we getting for our money..

pcorange writes:

Good Bray can make a little bit of fun of these reporters that have had CDD fired after every game this season. The more this drags out, the more ignorant both the press and the fans look.

pcorange writes:

in response to Hounddawg:

It's gotta be David Howell.

Who in the name of all that's good is David Howell?!

takespix writes:

in response to A_Voice_ofReason:

Ding ding ding, here comes the idiot train. For those of you who actually believe Dooley hasn't been fired have their heads in the sand. It happened last month folks. Dooley says Hart hasn't made up his mind? LOL, I remember Hamilton saying the same thing when Fulmer was fired.

Dooley is gone, and there has been a plan in place for 2 months (yes, even before Dooley was canned) to get his replacement in. UT will be prepared this time...this won't be another Kiffin repeat.

Tennessee football is irrelevent! Your past is only as good as what you build upon it.
Alabama, built a fortress, Tennessee played in the sand.

smokysbark writes:

in response to takespix:

Tennessee football is irrelevent! Your past is only as good as what you build upon it.
Alabama, built a fortress, Tennessee played in the sand.

Bama built a fortress ... and Johnny football blew the ****ing walls down!! LOL!

Just like a bammer to bash on another program to make them look better. Stay classy!

underthehill writes:

in response to ProfessionalHandicapper:

I told you people 3 weeks ago Vandy would be favored in this game. The Vegas Line today is Vandy -4 over UT. I can't ever remember Vandy opening as the favorite in this game. What more needs to be said about the depths this program has fallen.

I thought UT would beat Mizzu and thought it questionable as to whether or not Vandy would beat Ole Miss..since Vandy did beat Ole Miss and UT lost to Mizzu ..add to that..Vandy is the home team..and the point spread seems about right..it may have been a pick em if UT had won..It seems obvious Vandy will be highly motivated to beat UT..I don't think we'll know until the game is played whether UT will play for pride or give less than their best...anyway..ESPN has a reason for picking this game...hope it isn't to make UT look worse than they already do..

TraderVol writes:

in response to pcshowtime:

What might have been if dooley could have made the right DC hire. probably not undefeated but one loss and sec east champs is a big possibility. He had 9 of 11 starters back on last years 27th ranked defense.

Dooley could have hired a competent 4-3 defensive coordinator with a similar style to wilcox but he went for a 3-4 in a year he needed to win. This is the equivalent of taking a wishbone offense and trying to implement a spread passing attack. Do not start with the Hart hired Sunseri stuff if that was the case dooley should have said something by now. I also feel special teams is still pretty bad except for the return game with patterson.

I said from the beginning of the year this Defensive scheme change in a year dooley's job is on the line is his stupidest career move since arriving in Knoxville. If he could have left well enough alone and stayed with the 4-3 He could have been up for sec coach of the year awards. Instead it is going to cost him his job.

Your post makes a lot of sense. It also points out that Dooley has a long growing list of bad decisions which includes changing the defensive scheme. How many times have we made adjustments at halftime that were the least bit successful? What I see is that opposing coaches are making adjustments that either turn momentum to their favor or finish us off.

As for Patterson, imagine where we'd be without him. The knock on him is that he doesn't run very good routes. Hopefully, that will keep him around next year....wishful thinking.

laraccoon writes:

in response to underthehill:

circus, soap opera, reality show rolled up in one..as bad as UT needs money for the buy-outs..sell it to a TV network..could also save money on advertising and wouldn't need to hire a search firm..but didn't a search firm help UT find Hart..with success like that maybe some fat donor needs to step up and make a donation for another search firm hire..and in all this ..the lawsuits are lurking for another chapter in this story..I'm starting to think UT does have a money problem as Hart reported to the bama media...and maybe the fat cat donors are asking what are we getting for our money..

i think your on to something there as far as donors wanting results from their bucks . I heard Hyams say a while back that since how silly Cheeks handled the Pearl fiasco ,(him announcing Pearl would be our coach going forward and then him getting canned a few days later that Cheeks has lost credibility and is more like a puppet, and seeing some of the buyouts he has overseen its easy to see why.With some of the clowns who have run the athletic department at UT it would not surprise me if i heard they were filing a chapter 13 .

born2ride writes:

NEWS FLASH

Dooley is still coach.

We have two more games to win and a possible bowl game.

If anybody gets fired it is Sal.

7 wins keeps Dooley another year.

underthehill writes:

in response to laraccoon:

i think your on to something there as far as donors wanting results from their bucks . I heard Hyams say a while back that since how silly Cheeks handled the Pearl fiasco ,(him announcing Pearl would be our coach going forward and then him getting canned a few days later that Cheeks has lost credibility and is more like a puppet, and seeing some of the buyouts he has overseen its easy to see why.With some of the clowns who have run the athletic department at UT it would not surprise me if i heard they were filing a chapter 13 .

Hadn't thought of filing chapter 13..but if it would void the buyouts..wow...how much would that save..and it would add an amazing chapter to this ongoing saga...

pcorange writes:

in response to takespix:

Tennessee football is irrelevent! Your past is only as good as what you build upon it.
Alabama, built a fortress, Tennessee played in the sand.

Texas A&M! LOLOLOL!!!!

arkyvol writes:

here's another flash: dooley was fired the day hammy gave him the family farm to coax him out of well-deserved anonymity and put him in a position for which he had no qualifications whatsoever. it was only a question of how long it took the dimwits to wake up.

pcorange writes:

in response to underthehill:

I thought UT would beat Mizzu and thought it questionable as to whether or not Vandy would beat Ole Miss..since Vandy did beat Ole Miss and UT lost to Mizzu ..add to that..Vandy is the home team..and the point spread seems about right..it may have been a pick em if UT had won..It seems obvious Vandy will be highly motivated to beat UT..I don't think we'll know until the game is played whether UT will play for pride or give less than their best...anyway..ESPN has a reason for picking this game...hope it isn't to make UT look worse than they already do..

All we've been any good for the last three years is to provide the highlight reel for our opponents on SportsCenter. At this point, who cares? Hopefully we win these last two games and go to a bowl, but it is what it is.

jakethevolguy writes:

in response to born2ride:

NEWS FLASH

Dooley is still coach.

We have two more games to win and a possible bowl game.

If anybody gets fired it is Sal.

7 wins keeps Dooley another year.

And the stands will be empty----except for the "other" team's fans.

TheStupidPolice writes:

in response to The_Mayor:

What a hypocritical article. It is the media types who have created this dramatic circus-like saga. Coach Dooley, his staff and the players continue to be respectful, cordial, responsive, rational, task minded and positive toward the next game. Everybody else insists on high stakes drama. The media makes matters worse, and none more so than John Adams and his taunting with reckless names thrown out there like Bobby "Filth" Petrino, Tommy "The Game Passed Me By When It Passed Fulmer By" Tubberville, and David "I Got Fired At Ole Miss" Cutcliffe. He does this to ruffle feathers and get shock value reactions. And Weidmer is the pot calling the kettle black.

STUPID!!!

BigGVOLInATL writes:

in response to pcorange:

Who in the name of all that's good is David Howell?!

Clearly sir you are not a true TN Fan - if you are not aware of who David Howell is and what he has done for the TN program - Hounddawg is right on!

willtowin writes:

in response to born2ride:

NEWS FLASH

Dooley is still coach.

We have two more games to win and a possible bowl game.

If anybody gets fired it is Sal.

7 wins keeps Dooley another year.

Just some questions. Would you like to see Tennessee ever have a winning season in the SEC? Would you like to see the day Tennessee beats Florida or Alabama again? Is 7 wins your goal every year?Is that what gets you giddy? Do tell.

laraccoon writes:

in response to underthehill:

Hadn't thought of filing chapter 13..but if it would void the buyouts..wow...how much would that save..and it would add an amazing chapter to this ongoing saga...

its mind boggling to me how someone like Hamilton could have been put in charge of the UT athletic department. He gives Fulmer a what ,5 year contract extension and then fires him the next year. Then in the case of Dooley after a 6 and 7 season gives him a big extension and now look at the mess their in . And to beat all most of the supposedly higher ups who oversaw all this bull are still employed over there. The donors who give the most money are sharp business men and you can bet they see all the waste we see .

mountainbrook writes:

in response to ProfessionalHandicapper:

I told you people 3 weeks ago Vandy would be favored in this game. The Vegas Line today is Vandy -4 over UT. I can't ever remember Vandy opening as the favorite in this game. What more needs to be said about the depths this program has fallen.

Let us know when Vandy beats a team with a winning record. They didn't last year and the have not done it this year. If they beat TN they still won't. If not for scheduling powerhouses like Elon, Presbyterian or Massachusetts they wouldn't have winning seasons.

ournextguest writes:

Hart is the one that needs firing.

DalTexVol writes:

in response to smokysbark:

Bama built a fortress ... and Johnny football blew the ****ing walls down!! LOL!

Just like a bammer to bash on another program to make them look better. Stay classy!

The SEC West should be really concerned about A&M. In the SWC/Big 12, they were the little brother to TU, but in the SEC they will become the premier program in Texas. Bama fans can taunt us all they want, but they should be very afraid about what A&M is about to become.

volfaninbuckeyeland writes:

With Sal (Buddy can't hack it) Sunseri's Defensive scheme and Coach Derek (Jeff Foxworthy's vocal double) Dooley's unmistakable imprint on every aspect of the team and unrivaled game management skills, I can't hope for anything other than yet one more scene in the seemingly unending 2012 BO version of this comedy of errors. I can't help but wonder what new record UT will help Vandy establish this week. I was mistaken when I picked Vandy to win last year, and I'm glad I was. But I'm picking Vandy again, and while I'm at it, even though I risk the criticism of fellow posters, I want to congratulate the Vandy coaching staff on their accomplishments in changing the culture of Commodore football. When Neyland was first hired, he was given a mandate to end Vanderbilt's dominance of UT. Between the General's leadership and George Cafego's unwavering commitment to the same objective, that mission was undeniably accomplished. I know the game has yet to be played, but if Vandy should win, I could readily foresee an AD instructing a new coach that he could not tolerate another Ky or Vandy loss on his watch. My have times have changed.

Hounddawg writes:

in response to BigGVOLInATL:

Clearly sir you are not a true TN Fan - if you are not aware of who David Howell is and what he has done for the TN program - Hounddawg is right on!

Thanks Big G! If Howell would have been hired instead of Kiffin we would not be in this mess. Hamilton had personal issues with Howell hopefully Hart will not make the same mistake!

orangepowerT writes:

Here is something new.Could someone please tell me why Kentucky has begun to wear the checker board look on there uniforms over the past couple of years, both basketball and football.

laraccoon writes:

you know what really stuck out to me more than anything else about Dooley's press conferance yesterday besides him still defending himself for running out the clock in regulation ? Was the smug look on his face like he didnt see why people didnt like the job he was doing .When your junior QB has more common sense(pertaining to clock management in this instance) then your head coach something is very wrong .

shipperman#280095 writes:

in response to LifetimeVolFan98:

I honestly think that Hart is letting the season play out. 6-6 with a bowl game??? Maybe he stays on for one more year. Another loss and the announcement will come after that particular loss. Maybe as early as Monday.

Dooley will not be back next year, period. These rumors have teeth

wigmeister writes:

What a bunch of idiots! If there is going to be a replacement, it will come after the season. If there is someone in mind, they are probably under contract where they are now! All your histrionics and rumor mongering, including all the writers, doesn't help a dam* thing. Grow up. They don't give a hoot about your feelings, opinions, or anything else you put on this site. This is a business and they will make a business decision, whether you like it or not, when they feel the time is right!

smokysbark writes:

in response to wigmeister:

What a bunch of idiots! If there is going to be a replacement, it will come after the season. If there is someone in mind, they are probably under contract where they are now! All your histrionics and rumor mongering, including all the writers, doesn't help a dam* thing. Grow up. They don't give a hoot about your feelings, opinions, or anything else you put on this site. This is a business and they will make a business decision, whether you like it or not, when they feel the time is right!

But we're fans ... short for fanatics. This is what we do ... and we enjoy it and will continue to do it. If there weren't websites to post on we would be talking about the program with the guys at the local bar. Why do we have to be idiots as you say? I mean, here you are posting as well ... even came up with your own little username like the rest of us. We know we don't make a difference in when/where/how the decisions are made. That's not why we do this. We want the program on the right track, we're angry, frustrated, lacking in patience, and it's time for a change ... thus, we gripe and whine and make declarations about Dooley's fate. Fanatics ... it's what we do.

volfaninbuckeyeland writes:

in response to collegegrovebilly:

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Hey cgb, wouldn't it be appropriate if the Pride of the Southland band broke out in a rousing rendition to that BH theme song at some point in the Ky game? Now, thanks to you, I will be thinking about that tune next time I witness another meltdown. Any OC in the country would be chompin' at the bit to play UT at this point, and who could blame them? And I don't know if anyone else would agree with me on this point, but as much as I appreciate what TB & company have done on offense this year, I, for one, would love to see what another Tee Martin type QB could accomplish with this unit. The Tenn D was burned repeatedly by the 109th ranked offensive unit in the country and one of the reasons was the additional pressure that a scrambling QB put on the D. On both the 2 pt. conversion attempt and the 4th & 3 attempt in the last OT, I couldn't help but think what a difference it could have made. Just look at what a freshman with those abilities did to the #1 ranked D in the country.

volfaninbuckeyeland writes:

in response to smokysbark:

But we're fans ... short for fanatics. This is what we do ... and we enjoy it and will continue to do it. If there weren't websites to post on we would be talking about the program with the guys at the local bar. Why do we have to be idiots as you say? I mean, here you are posting as well ... even came up with your own little username like the rest of us. We know we don't make a difference in when/where/how the decisions are made. That's not why we do this. We want the program on the right track, we're angry, frustrated, lacking in patience, and it's time for a change ... thus, we gripe and whine and make declarations about Dooley's fate. Fanatics ... it's what we do.

Well put, ...bark, eloquently stated without the juvenile namecalling that others seemingly can't , or won't, avoid.

takespix writes:

So short sighted you are!
Both schools have a storied past. Tennessee chose to dismiss a coach who fell on hard times,not once, but twice! Then had the audacity to "honor" them at a halftime show.
You probably do not remember Bear Bryant's 68, 69, and 70 teams that finished 8-3, 6-5,and 6-5-1. Alabama finished 3rd, 8th,and 7th in a ten team SEC. The Tide also suffered convincing losses to Tennessee and Auburn during that time as well as humiliating bowl defeats. Alabama stuck with Bryant and the rest is history.
I will not elaborate on the many years it took for Majors to return Tennessee to dominance. He came in 77, did not win a conference title until 85 and even afterward had two losing seasons before winning a second. By the time health issues took it's toll in 1992, Tennessee was a solid football team.
Tennessee was fortunate to have an equally good coach in Fulmer after unjustly firing Majors; not so lucky after running off Fulmer and Chavis.
As for my allegience, it must take a "special" talent to determine that based on a single comment.

Volunteer-Varmint writes:

in response to volnsc:

UT prepared? I see you haven't tried the twelve step programs yet.

He's right. A Gruden contract has been in the works since GA. He won't be back and may not even be on the sidelines for the 2nd KY loss. Although I hope we manage to miraculously pull off a couple wins to end the regular season, we will end up 4-8. Book it! GBO!

TucsonVol writes:

Sounds like DD has convinced Hart to give him just one more year to turn the program around.DD seems to think he is at the "Event Horizon". One more step to success.

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