John Adams: UT fans thinking new coach and 'same old Kentucky'

John Adams
A bundled up Tennessee fan looks on in the fourth quarter as the Vols close out a win over the Kentucky Wildcats at Neyland Stadium Saturday, Nov. 24, 2012. Temperatures hovered in the low 40s during the game. (ADAM BRIMER/NEWS SENTINEL)

Photo by Adam Brimer, Knoxville News Sentinel

A bundled up Tennessee fan looks on in the fourth quarter as the Vols close out a win over the Kentucky Wildcats at Neyland Stadium Saturday, Nov. 24, 2012. Temperatures hovered in the low 40s during the game. (ADAM BRIMER/NEWS SENTINEL)

If you had missed the last five years of Tennessee football, you would have felt right at home Saturday afternoon at Neyland Stadium.

The Vols were having their way with Kentucky again. Just like old times, huh?

Up-to-date UT fans could better appreciate the 37-17 victory over the Wildcats, though

They saw their Vols lose to Vanderbilt the week before. They saw them lose to Kentucky last season.

And they have seen their program turned upside down in the last five years.

Tennessee football turned right-side up against Kentucky, as the Vols pulled away from both the Wildcats and history in the second half.

No UT team has ever lost eight games in a season. No UT team has ever gone 0-8 in the SEC. And no UT team has lost to both Kentucky and Vanderbilt in the same season since 1964.

So history not made was cause for celebration on a team that has had little to celebrate.

Saturday's outcome also was drastically different from anything the Vols have produced within the conference this season. But even in a 20-point victory, you saw many of the same defensive shortcomings that have tormented the Vols throughout a 5-7 season.

The big difference: Kentucky just didn't have the tools to take advantage of those failings — although you might have debated that after the first drive of the second half.

The Wildcats cut UT's lead to 20-17 and surpassed their average yardage per game with a 7-minute, 23-second drive to open the third quarter. That was as good as it got for them.

Tennessee tightened its usually loose defense for the rest of the game, and the offense tacked on 17 points for the program's most one-sided SEC victory since beating Ole Miss 52-14 in November of 2010.

The Vols overcame more than Kentucky. They overcame all the distractions that have been swirling around the team before and after last Sunday's firing of coach Derek Dooley.

Credit Dooley with helping the Vols through this. He elected not to coach the last game because he thought his presence would have been a distraction.

Based on how the Vols performed under interim coach Jim Chaney, Dooley made the right call. They certainly played with more enthusiasm than in a 41-18 loss to Vanderbilt the week before.

As a result, fans probably left the stadium thinking, "At least, we aren't as bad as Kentucky."

But fans surely were thinking more about the next coach than the last game.

Beating Kentucky isn't what matters now. Hiring the right coach is what counts.

The average fan thinks the right coach is the much-rumored Jon Gruden, who once won a Super Bowl at Tampa Bay and now stars as an analyst on "Monday Night Football." And you can better understand his appeal if you saw Saturday's crowd.

Attendance was announced as 81,841. It was probably at least 20,000 short of that.

After three consecutive losing seasons, UT football is no longer an attraction. In fact, fans who attended the Kentucky game probably went out of habit rather than in anticipation of excitement.

UT fans need hope as well as excitement. They also need to know athletic director Dave Hart understands that.

What they don't need is an up-and-coming coach with a losing record or with more potential than results. They need a coach whose hiring won't prompt a casual fan to ask, "Who's that?"

UT's last two hires were up-and-comers with losing records. You know how that worked out.

Now, UT needs a big-time coach. And if Hart can't deliver one, the fans need to know how hard he tried.

Otherwise, the postseason could be as disappointing as the regular season.

John Adams is a senior columnist. He may be reached at 865-342-6284 or adamsj@knoxnews.com. Follow him at http://twitter.com/johnadamskns

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eepwlg writes:

Coach Chaney and Jay Graham should be back next year regardless. What if we got a really good defensive coordinator and kept Chaney as HC? Probably would never happen but would it be the worst thing? Possibly better than just rolling the dice. Don't hammer me just throwing something out there. Coaches I do not want to see there - Petrino and Golden.

6972 writes:

Beating Ky this year was like taking the ugliest girl in school to the prom. You show up but it was no big deal.
Next year may require a virtue that we don't develop well...patience.

asleep#212036 writes:

Don't think Chaney is an option for Hart and I don't think he believes in power football, something every top team in our conference understands. Strong's star dimmed a bit the last two weeks with some questionable losses. Golden won at Temple, a nearly impossible task but Miami looked very average the last two years. Petrino has a creep factor, pretty sure Hart's integrity comments rule him out, along with Tressel, another excellent but flawed coach. Gruden and Stoops, even if either is interested, are too expensive for real consideration. Yes, I know we are supposed to "open the checkbook and buy the best guy" but seriously? We simply can't afford pay Gruden's likely $6 million+ salary and hire assistants, nor can we afford Stoops' salary plus buyout.... Ditto with Patterson. Looks like Fedora or Jones would be leading at this point. Jimbo Fisher is my darkhorse because (a), the ACC is a dying conference in the big BCS picture and (b), he worked with Hart before. His salary is manageable, he can recruit Florida, and he believes in power football on both sides of the ball. We'll see in the next week or so I guess. Go Vols!!!

apostolicman writes:

in response to eepwlg:

Coach Chaney and Jay Graham should be back next year regardless. What if we got a really good defensive coordinator and kept Chaney as HC? Probably would never happen but would it be the worst thing? Possibly better than just rolling the dice. Don't hammer me just throwing something out there. Coaches I do not want to see there - Petrino and Golden.

I don't have a problem with that assessment. Chaney did a good job as well as Jay Graham. If we still had Wilcox as a defensive coordinator we probably would have a 8 or 9 win season. Dooley took a huge risk that didn't pay off in changing the defensive scheme. I don't see Chaney as a good head coach though for a lot of reasons. I don't think he's the answer for recruiting and has no experience as a head coach. We need a proven HC. But we could do a lot worse with him as a offensive coordinator under a new HC.

eepwlg writes:

in response to asleep#212036:

Don't think Chaney is an option for Hart and I don't think he believes in power football, something every top team in our conference understands. Strong's star dimmed a bit the last two weeks with some questionable losses. Golden won at Temple, a nearly impossible task but Miami looked very average the last two years. Petrino has a creep factor, pretty sure Hart's integrity comments rule him out, along with Tressel, another excellent but flawed coach. Gruden and Stoops, even if either is interested, are too expensive for real consideration. Yes, I know we are supposed to "open the checkbook and buy the best guy" but seriously? We simply can't afford pay Gruden's likely $6 million+ salary and hire assistants, nor can we afford Stoops' salary plus buyout.... Ditto with Patterson. Looks like Fedora or Jones would be leading at this point. Jimbo Fisher is my darkhorse because (a), the ACC is a dying conference in the big BCS picture and (b), he worked with Hart before. His salary is manageable, he can recruit Florida, and he believes in power football on both sides of the ball. We'll see in the next week or so I guess. Go Vols!!!

Well maybe not Chaney, I was just speculating. But I must say, our offense was not not the problem most of the time. Fisher is interesting, I am anxious like everyone else.

shorttail writes:

once again, up yours john

killdevil writes:

Question to all the media types,know it all Basillio, UT coaching staff and players of the UT. How did a Penn State football team go through all they did and still finish the season like they did today? Tell us ! You guys didnt go through any thing like they did but THEY(PSU) were able to focus and play the game of football like its meant to be!!!

tenndave writes:

Any head coach would look seriously at making sure Chaney and Graham stay around. I want Gruden and his first hire be Al Wilson.

PUL4VOLS writes:

in response to killdevil:

Question to all the media types,know it all Basillio, UT coaching staff and players of the UT. How did a Penn State football team go through all they did and still finish the season like they did today? Tell us ! You guys didnt go through any thing like they did but THEY(PSU) were able to focus and play the game of football like its meant to be!!!

Go to the PennState site with your observations and questions.Maybe you could tell them how better off they are than the Vols. We do not care how they finished or what they went through. We are Tennessee!

killdevil writes:

in response to PUL4VOLS:

Go to the PennState site with your observations and questions.Maybe you could tell them how better off they are than the Vols. We do not care how they finished or what they went through. We are Tennessee!

whats that address

Govols1995 writes:

Vols fans this was a horrid year! This win today means absolutely nothing. I fear for this program and where it is headed. Next years schedule is even harder than this years!

pingkr62 writes:

in response to asleep#212036:

Don't think Chaney is an option for Hart and I don't think he believes in power football, something every top team in our conference understands. Strong's star dimmed a bit the last two weeks with some questionable losses. Golden won at Temple, a nearly impossible task but Miami looked very average the last two years. Petrino has a creep factor, pretty sure Hart's integrity comments rule him out, along with Tressel, another excellent but flawed coach. Gruden and Stoops, even if either is interested, are too expensive for real consideration. Yes, I know we are supposed to "open the checkbook and buy the best guy" but seriously? We simply can't afford pay Gruden's likely $6 million+ salary and hire assistants, nor can we afford Stoops' salary plus buyout.... Ditto with Patterson. Looks like Fedora or Jones would be leading at this point. Jimbo Fisher is my darkhorse because (a), the ACC is a dying conference in the big BCS picture and (b), he worked with Hart before. His salary is manageable, he can recruit Florida, and he believes in power football on both sides of the ball. We'll see in the next week or so I guess. Go Vols!!!

You make some excellent points. I'm not totally sure that the ACC is a dying conference though. I think Fisher would be a good hire, but can we pull him away from F.S.U. I think the next coach should at least have contacts with High School coaches is the region. Should we hire a coach from the West coast? Can a coach from there be able to pull players all the way to Tennessee? A lot to consider.

pingkr62 writes:

in response to tenndave:

Any head coach would look seriously at making sure Chaney and Graham stay around. I want Gruden and his first hire be Al Wilson.

For the sake of asking, does Al Wilson have any coaching experience?

SummerfieldVol writes:

The two coaches that we could get and be very, very good choices would be Coach Jones or Coach Fisher. The others would be over paid, we would have to mortage the house to be able to pay the salaries for all coaches. Me personally I don't think Gruden is worth 5 + million. Stoops is the only one that could demand that salary but I am not sure he is worth it either , he has won one NC in 2000. I am not sure that qualifies for a 5 + million salary today. I am glad it is not my decision to make.

CityVol1 writes:

Adams is absolutely correct about one thing: They better get this hire right and it better make a splash. Watching the rest of the SEC clamor around the BCS like vultures only speaks ever more volumes to that. UT may hire a good coach but if it's not a headline name that makes some noise at home and around the SEC, it will take a few years of winning before the fans come back.

jt45 writes:

in response to apostolicman:

I don't have a problem with that assessment. Chaney did a good job as well as Jay Graham. If we still had Wilcox as a defensive coordinator we probably would have a 8 or 9 win season. Dooley took a huge risk that didn't pay off in changing the defensive scheme. I don't see Chaney as a good head coach though for a lot of reasons. I don't think he's the answer for recruiting and has no experience as a head coach. We need a proven HC. But we could do a lot worse with him as a offensive coordinator under a new HC.

The problem with Chaney is he is just too predictable. Top tier coaches are always one step ahead of him. Ive seen folks who dont even watch much football call out his plays before a snap. Its been this way with Chaney during his entire career. 3rd and short he passes, 3rd and long, he calls a short screen pass with no chance. The offense needs a coach who can mix power running backs and Good receivers, otherwise UT will never be back to competing for a top spot in the SEC let alone a NC. Chaney had some of the best offensive tools in the SEC this year, but when Bray was off, the Vols had literally no answers on offense. Also when you factor in how often time of possession was controlled by our opponents you start to see more problems with Chaneys style. Dont get me wrong nothing is better than watching those fast strikes down field but that leaves the defense on the field too often in my book.

I hope the next Coach keeps Sam Pittman and Jay Graham, brings in some big gun fundamental assistant coaches who can get it done when the game is on the line.

asleep#212036 writes:

in response to eepwlg:

Well maybe not Chaney, I was just speculating. But I must say, our offense was not not the problem most of the time. Fisher is interesting, I am anxious like everyone else.

Only against Vandy, Bama, and Florida did the offense really let us down. All three have dominant D-lines and Chaney generally shied away from trying to run against teams like that. That one-dimensional approach killed us in those games. However, I do like Chaney and think he could work under a new HC, especially if that HC gave him a framework of how he would want the offense to run. I'm anxious as about this hire as well. My comments about Fisher stem mostly from an associate at work, an FSU grad and substantial donor, who is lamenting the fact the ACC is becoming irrelevant in the national scheme, especially next year with the playoff system. He's worried FSU might never make it in due to their inherently weak conference schedule relative to the SEC, Pac-12, Big 10, and Big 12, not to mention resurgent Notre Dame. I think FIsher probably sees the same thing. It's total speculation but it makes sense to me. Go Vols!!!

asleep#212036 writes:

in response to killdevil:

Question to all the media types,know it all Basillio, UT coaching staff and players of the UT. How did a Penn State football team go through all they did and still finish the season like they did today? Tell us ! You guys didnt go through any thing like they did but THEY(PSU) were able to focus and play the game of football like its meant to be!!!

First and foremost, they played a Big-10 schedule, quite an advantage relative to UT. Only one team on their entire schedule, Ohio State, is ranked anywhere near 4 of the teams we lost to and that ranking is specious as they beat nobody of note outside of their weak conference. Also, they returned a solid bowl team from last year, we didn't. Further, they didn't change anything offensively or defensively from last season, probably out of necessity. It has been well-documented the defensive issues we had switching to a 3-4 without the requisite players. That was Dooley's call and it was a bad one, costing him (and likely most of his assistants) his job. And lastly, Penn State has a much better head coach than we had. I think O'Brien has done an outstanding job but this is a honeymoon. Once the scholarship restrictions kick in, PSU is in for hard times. Go Vols!!!

asleep#212036 writes:

in response to pingkr62:

You make some excellent points. I'm not totally sure that the ACC is a dying conference though. I think Fisher would be a good hire, but can we pull him away from F.S.U. I think the next coach should at least have contacts with High School coaches is the region. Should we hire a coach from the West coast? Can a coach from there be able to pull players all the way to Tennessee? A lot to consider.

I don't know. Dooley did OK recruiting but certainly didn't have Fulmer's or Kiffin's touch. Most of the athletes we are going to get will be from the south region so I think a West Coast guy, while he might be able to pull a few from Cali, would be way behind the curve in Florida, South Carolina, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Texas, all fertile ground for SEC schools. Dooley had to hire so many new coaches in the off-season that I'm not sure what level of relationship they have developed in just one year. I don't know if the ACC is dying like the Big East but when the playoff system kicks in, they are going to have a tough time breaking into the semifinal games due to SOS and the computer rankings. I'm not sure an undefeated Florida State would out-rank a one loss Oregon, Alabama, Kansas State, or Notre Dame. A one-loss ACC team is doomed. Maybe Fisher wants more and a real shot at a NC, something he may just not get in the ACC. Go Vols!!!

rb4346 writes:

in response to eepwlg:

Coach Chaney and Jay Graham should be back next year regardless. What if we got a really good defensive coordinator and kept Chaney as HC? Probably would never happen but would it be the worst thing? Possibly better than just rolling the dice. Don't hammer me just throwing something out there. Coaches I do not want to see there - Petrino and Golden.

Good point, but I think you left out one important coach and that would be Sam Pittman. He has done an excellent job with the offensive line.

midnite__VOL writes:

in response to pingkr62:

For the sake of asking, does Al Wilson have any coaching experience?

He just have to scare them into playing the right defense!

laraccoon writes:

some of you fellows have a pretty short memory , last year we had one of the worst offenses in the country .went the entire year without being able to fix it , and now suddenly that coach should be our head coach ? not IMO. by the way all our new offensive line coach did to fix most of last years problem was change the tempo of the game (hurry up no huddle) something Chaney should have figured out last year .

FearTheVols1252 writes:

in response to jt45:

The problem with Chaney is he is just too predictable. Top tier coaches are always one step ahead of him. Ive seen folks who dont even watch much football call out his plays before a snap. Its been this way with Chaney during his entire career. 3rd and short he passes, 3rd and long, he calls a short screen pass with no chance. The offense needs a coach who can mix power running backs and Good receivers, otherwise UT will never be back to competing for a top spot in the SEC let alone a NC. Chaney had some of the best offensive tools in the SEC this year, but when Bray was off, the Vols had literally no answers on offense. Also when you factor in how often time of possession was controlled by our opponents you start to see more problems with Chaneys style. Dont get me wrong nothing is better than watching those fast strikes down field but that leaves the defense on the field too often in my book.

I hope the next Coach keeps Sam Pittman and Jay Graham, brings in some big gun fundamental assistant coaches who can get it done when the game is on the line.

x2

hglover40#234154 writes:

Keep pittman (the Oline Coach!!)

hglover40#234154 writes:

in response to FearTheVols1252:

x2

He averaged over 30 a game in the SEC - keep all the O coaches!!
Boot the D and SAL!!!

RememberWhen writes:

in response to eepwlg:

Coach Chaney and Jay Graham should be back next year regardless. What if we got a really good defensive coordinator and kept Chaney as HC? Probably would never happen but would it be the worst thing? Possibly better than just rolling the dice. Don't hammer me just throwing something out there. Coaches I do not want to see there - Petrino and Golden.

tell me if I've got this right....you're thinking TN should promote a guy that (after yesterday) has been the head coach for exactly one game and keep another guy simply because he's an alum rather than hiring a guy with with a 75-26 record, 2 conf titles, and a proven record as a recruiter. Yup that would make a ton of sense! Said. Nobody. Ever.

RememberWhen writes:

in response to hglover40#234154:

He averaged over 30 a game in the SEC - keep all the O coaches!!
Boot the D and SAL!!!

Really? Why is that? Because of the 13 they scored against Bama? Or is it the 18 they laid on Vandy? Maybe it was their ability to close out games like those @ SC and GA or at home against Missouri. Or perhaps it's that rushing attack that was 65th in the nation. I'm sure it was probably all of those stellar performances...so yeah the new HC will surely want to keep all those guys.

therightstuff writes:

#1--Jon Gruden: give him the control he wants and
be done with it.
#2--Jim Mora Jr: he has the tools to do the job
and would embrace Tennessee as
home.
#3--Bob Stoops
Jimbo Fischer
Wildcard and maybe should be #3--Bobby Petrino. Tired of hearing the morality
and integrity crowd...perfect fit for
Knox county.

Patterson and Briles....can they recruit outside
of Texas?
Charlie Strong flunked the final interview with
the UConn loss and the weak Big East.

MarbleCitySon writes:

in response to therightstuff:

#1--Jon Gruden: give him the control he wants and
be done with it.
#2--Jim Mora Jr: he has the tools to do the job
and would embrace Tennessee as
home.
#3--Bob Stoops
Jimbo Fischer
Wildcard and maybe should be #3--Bobby Petrino. Tired of hearing the morality
and integrity crowd...perfect fit for
Knox county.

Patterson and Briles....can they recruit outside
of Texas?
Charlie Strong flunked the final interview with
the UConn loss and the weak Big East.

Why can't we spin the Petrino thing? We can appease the morality folks with " Knoxville will be where Petrino comes to renew his faith, strive to walk in righteousness and nurse UT to national prominence." But there is a little part that says Petrino will kiffin us,after seeing how he did the falcons. He literally left them a note in their locker room.

Dalton writes:

During the interview process Mr. Hart needs to focus on the candidate that instills a mentality in the program...that presence that great coaches like Parcells, Saban and Fulmer in his early years display..we as fans just want everything to be alright and not be adrift like Brooks in Shawshank Redemption..bright sunny imagery Vol fans...whether we get our dream guy Gruden or end up with Fedora or Jones, the mentality and focus of our program is what needs to be fixed Go Vols

gobigorange5090 writes:

in response to shorttail:

once again, up yours john

Why do you read him?

gobigorange5090 writes:

in response to tenndave:

Any head coach would look seriously at making sure Chaney and Graham stay around. I want Gruden and his first hire be Al Wilson.

Gruden isnt coming.

chuckfromwoodberry writes:

in response to MarbleCitySon:

Why can't we spin the Petrino thing? We can appease the morality folks with " Knoxville will be where Petrino comes to renew his faith, strive to walk in righteousness and nurse UT to national prominence." But there is a little part that says Petrino will kiffin us,after seeing how he did the falcons. He literally left them a note in their locker room.

And we could put in any and all restrictions/stipulations we want and he would sign. Petrino is desperate right now. Take advantage of the situation and we'll be playing for the SEC Championship in two years. Or we can hire another Johnny Bravo, he looks good and the suit fits.

SummerfieldVol writes:

I still don't understand peoples fascination about Coach Gruden. What are they going to do or how are they going to feel if he get the job and in 2 or 3 years we do not have a 8 to 10 wins a year? For the things I have read and the things he wants he had better be a instant winner. I hope he does go to Arkansas.

UTKin1992 writes:

For all the imbiciles who think it would've been better to "stay the course" with Dooley, here's a VERY disturbing revelation.

All Vols must read this...

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/20...

beartn#223846 writes:

<<Question to all the media types,know it all Basillio, UT coaching staff and players of the UT. How did a Penn State football team go through all they did and still finish the season like they did today? Tell us ! You guys didnt go through any thing like they did but THEY(PSU) were able to focus and play the game of football like its meant to be!!>>>

Penn State played a much easier schedule than the Vols. I don't think anyone would mistake the Big 10 with the SEC (the Vols played 4 top 10 teams to 1 top 10 for PSU). I think the Vols could have possibly gone 8-4 with that same schedule.

One point you didn't make is that PSU got better as the season went on, while the Voles got worse.

budd#207344 writes:

in response to MarbleCitySon:

Why can't we spin the Petrino thing? We can appease the morality folks with " Knoxville will be where Petrino comes to renew his faith, strive to walk in righteousness and nurse UT to national prominence." But there is a little part that says Petrino will kiffin us,after seeing how he did the falcons. He literally left them a note in their locker room.

I lived in Atlanta during Petrino's time. He was promised a QB, and thru the total stupidity of the front office who didn't know their $100M player was committing felonies on a daily basis, he didn't get one. If you took a job because you were promised a new set of tools and when you got there you got a cracked hammer how long would you stay? If it had been me they wouldn't have gotten the note.

volfaninbuckeyeland writes:

in response to UTKin1992:

For all the imbiciles who think it would've been better to "stay the course" with Dooley, here's a VERY disturbing revelation.

All Vols must read this...

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/20...

Thanks for posting that link, UTK. Because of the nature of my work, I visit some key metro areas in the SE during July & August, and at one point this past summer, I met an older UT fan who related similar sentiments concerning Dooley's arrogance based upon his attendance at an event where Dooley had been invited to speak. I recalled what Basilio had written after last year's Ky game about Dooley's "loss" of the team and about the questions concerning the dismissal of other players. I didn't post anything about this because all of us have our detractors, and while I didn't have any reason to doubt this man's credibility, his account was still hearsay. I figured if there was any validity to this criticism, it would eventually be voiced or addressed by someone much more significant than some obscure website poster. I realize that PF had his shortcomings and had possibly lost some of his intensity in his latter years, but as a good ol down home Tn boy, he had the ability to make a connection with young men and their parents that few others could rival. If I had the talent for such a job and thought that I could make an impact on a young man's decision to play for the BO, I would love the opportunity to do it. I still cherish the time of my life growing up in the Chatta area, and I find it most interesting that the coach whose comments were most prominent in that article is coaching at my high school alma mater.

licknpromise777#651578 writes:

in response to UTKin1992:

For all the imbiciles who think it would've been better to "stay the course" with Dooley, here's a VERY disturbing revelation.

All Vols must read this...

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/20...

Good job.....Disturbing Indeed

asleep#212036 writes:

in response to RememberWhen:

Really? Why is that? Because of the 13 they scored against Bama? Or is it the 18 they laid on Vandy? Maybe it was their ability to close out games like those @ SC and GA or at home against Missouri. Or perhaps it's that rushing attack that was 65th in the nation. I'm sure it was probably all of those stellar performances...so yeah the new HC will surely want to keep all those guys.

Our rushing did improve significantly though, from 116th to 65th. Check Pittman's record at UNC, it was the same thing. Started in the 100's, by the end of the third season, they were in the 20's. He needs to stay and I thought Graham did a good job with Neal and Lane as well, they're just not that talented. Neal is fast enough but still can't find and hit the holes running downhill. Lane is plenty big but too slooooooowwwwww. On that run yesterday a UT back of old would have housed that trotting in..... Offense next year will be rebuilding as well if Bray, Hunter, Patterson, and James go pro, plus the losses of Bartholomew, Stone, Neal, and Rogers..... Go Vols!!!

asleep#212036 writes:

in response to chuckfromwoodberry:

And we could put in any and all restrictions/stipulations we want and he would sign. Petrino is desperate right now. Take advantage of the situation and we'll be playing for the SEC Championship in two years. Or we can hire another Johnny Bravo, he looks good and the suit fits.

All those things are true and if Hart wants him, I'll buy tickets and support it, but I have an issue with Petrino's poor judgment. He flouted (trackable) state hiring rules to get his girlfriend a job. He rode around Fayetteville, all the time, without a helmet and his hot girlfriend on the back of the bike. He has a wreck then lies to the cops/administration about it and tells her to do the same. Yes he can coach and yes he would have us back to national prominence sooner rather than later - nobody doubts that. But just like Dooley, whose insistence that UT run Saban's 3-4 cost us at least a season and him his job, Petrino doesn't seem to be able to connect the dots sometimes. And I agree with another poster as well, he would likely not consider UT a pinnacle job and as soon as he got a better offer..... a Dear Dave letter would be tacked on the AD office door. Go Vols!!!

asleep#212036 writes:

in response to UTKin1992:

For all the imbiciles who think it would've been better to "stay the course" with Dooley, here's a VERY disturbing revelation.

All Vols must read this...

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/20...

All I can say is "Wow"! No wonder we couldn't crack the recruiting hierarchy. I'm sure all Dooley did was recruit Georgia but lost most every good prospect to UGA or South Carolina. Again, "Wow"! Go Vols!!!

ALAllVOL writes:

in response to UTKin1992:

For all the imbiciles who think it would've been better to "stay the course" with Dooley, here's a VERY disturbing revelation.

All Vols must read this...

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/20...

Wow! That is scary..

Colliervol writes:

in response to UTKin1992:

For all the imbiciles who think it would've been better to "stay the course" with Dooley, here's a VERY disturbing revelation.

All Vols must read this...

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/20...

If that is accurate, that is truly disturbing. No way any coach can do that in his back yard and be successful. Thanks for posting it. Helps when people come up with factual information rather than opinion and biased agendas.

Scoon writes:

in response to 6972:

Beating Ky this year was like taking the ugliest girl in school to the prom. You show up but it was no big deal.
Next year may require a virtue that we don't develop well...patience.

But the girls in Kentucky are beautiful, 69 .. 72! As a matter of fact, one could even say hot .. smokin hot! Learn that.

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