Tennessee's opening one of a dozen

Tennessee head coach Derek Dooley watches play against Vanderbilt at Vanderbilt Stadium in Nashville on Saturday, Nov. 17, 2012. Vanderbilt defeated Tennessee 41-18. (AMY SMOTHERMAN BURGESS/NEWS SENTINEL)

Photo by Amy Smotherman Burgess

Tennessee head coach Derek Dooley watches play against Vanderbilt at Vanderbilt Stadium in Nashville on Saturday, Nov. 17, 2012. Vanderbilt defeated Tennessee 41-18. (AMY SMOTHERMAN BURGESS/NEWS SENTINEL)

Tennessee isn't the only school seeking a new football coach for next season. In fact, four SEC teams – part of nine teams from BCS conferences - are in hiring mode, with a total of 12 schools in the Football Bowl Subdivision on the hunt.

Coaches fired this season accounted for one national title, 13 conference titles, seven national coach of the year awards and eight conference coach of the year awards.

The recently unemployed, with their school and records:

School: Coach, Reason for leaving,Overall record (2012 record), Bowl record

Arkansas: John. L. Smith (Interim), Not retained, 136-94 (4-8), 1-6

Auburn: Gene Chizik, Fired, 38-38 (3-9), 3-0

Boston College: Frank Spaziani, Fired, 22-29 (2-10), 1-2

California: Jeff Tedford, Fired, 82-57 (3-9), 5-3

Colorado: Jon Embree, Fired, 4-21 (1-11)

Idaho: Robb Akee, 20-50 (1-7), 1-0

Kentucky: Joker Phillips, Fired, 13-24 (2-10), 0-1

N.C. State: Tom O'Brien, Fired, 115-80 (7-5), 8-2

Purdue: Danny Hope, Fired, 57-49 (6-6), 1-0

Tennessee: Derek Dooley, Fired, 32-41 (4-7), 1-1

Texas-El Paso: Mike Price, Retired, 177-183 (3-9), 3-4

Western Michigan: Bill Cubit, Fired, 85-65-1 (4-8), 0-3

Total: 781-732-1 (.516)

2012 W-L: 40-99 (.288)

Bowl records: 23-22 (.511)

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HopeisNotaCourseofAction writes:

Let's go AD, you have competition for the best available. But this is TENNESSEE, we deserve the best.

Get it right and let's have a big announcement just before the SEC CG to steal some limelight from that event and get us off to jump start on our recruiting!

td writes:

OPPORTUNITYISNOWHERE

Rumblefish writes:

I heard this morning on Dan Patrick that Gruden's Agent (no, not the dipspit poster on here) contacted TN to say he was interested talking to Tennessee FOR THE SOLE REASON to start a bidding war with ESPN, the Eagles, the Browns, Arky, etc.

GRUDEN IS NOT COMING TO TENNESSEE. He is just using the job opening to solicit better offers from somewhere else.

We do not need his kind here.

rtrchatt writes:

in response to HopeisNotaCourseofAction:

Let's go AD, you have competition for the best available. But this is TENNESSEE, we deserve the best.

Get it right and let's have a big announcement just before the SEC CG to steal some limelight from that event and get us off to jump start on our recruiting!

Steal the limelight lol... you boys are as stale as month old bread.

brod writes:

looking like tuberville would be a good fit.

BeRealistic writes:

Stoops or Jimbo Fisher if possible. Gruden's college record 0-0. He would be a big gamble like DD.

MooseandSquirrelVol writes:

in response to Rumblefish:

I heard this morning on Dan Patrick that Gruden's Agent (no, not the dipspit poster on here) contacted TN to say he was interested talking to Tennessee FOR THE SOLE REASON to start a bidding war with ESPN, the Eagles, the Browns, Arky, etc.

GRUDEN IS NOT COMING TO TENNESSEE. He is just using the job opening to solicit better offers from somewhere else.

We do not need his kind here.

You do know that the Dan Patricks of the world make their living by beating their gums with anything that will fill air time, don't you?
No actual knowledge is required, only noise.

sameolvolalum writes:

'Think I'll take a nap 'til Friday.

cyclonevol87 writes:

Tennessee is the best job open,And look for N.C.State to after James Franklin.

Rumblefish writes:

in response to MooseandSquirrelVol:

You do know that the Dan Patricks of the world make their living by beating their gums with anything that will fill air time, don't you?
No actual knowledge is required, only noise.

i get what you're saying. but i respect dan patrick. he's on his own, and he has more of a realistic take and "insider" sources that don't need to be protected by the likes of ESPN or Fox Sports. i am by far not the only one who thinks that by the way.

you should listen to him or watch his show sometime (M-F) 9am-12. he asks sports figures tough questions, and gets direct answers. he busted kiffin's chops on air last week and it was FREAKING AWESOME! lil lane was scrambling for answers. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

LovinMyVols writes:

Sure is a lot of speculation with little info coming out of the AD office. Maybe Adams needs to take a secretary or two to lunch. :)

Glentenn writes:

We need to create a strong recruiting base in Florida again. Charlie Strong is the guy.

VolGrad writes:

Don't understand NC State firing Tom O'Brien.

Big_Orange_Aide writes:

in response to rtrchatt:

Steal the limelight lol... you boys are as stale as month old bread.

Six million dollars will get every coaches attention. You know that...you are here because you neeeeeed to know what's going on. You have your hands full with jawja and they are due. I don't think stale bread will be the best way to define us next year.

dvhill100 writes:

I would love to see Patterson from TCU. Beat Texas (16th ranked), is a defensive coach, and has done brilliantly in the last several years. We could ( and have) do worse.

VolsFanInAfghanistan writes:

Whatever we decide to do or whoever we decide to hire is going to have to play catch up on the recruiting trail. Kids aren't truly going to wait around and the other schools are definitely going to use this against us just like they have in the past. Kids are going to start listening to all these coaches that have stable programs and then say "do you really want to go to a school that doesn't even know who their next coach is going to be". Are better yet " you see we made it to a post season bowl game, Tennessee hasn't be to the big bowls since when". Kids will sit and listen and change alliances because they feel the need to accept. So unless a parent says wait it out and see they will abandon ship one after the other. I sure don't hope thats the case. I love my Volunteers. GBO!!

BolivrBob writes:

This is probably all Bullochi but this was on FB..lol
TFWIW, this is a post reportedly by the hubby of Janet, who was a UT cheerleading teammate of Cindy Gruden.

"Janet said Cindy is so excited that Jon has officially agreed to the deal with the Vols. She wanted to be in Knoxville this week for the announcement but the kids have school; which they will stay at until the Christmas break. Yes, the announcement is happening this week according to Cindy and she is oozing with excitement. Again, congrats I think you'll love them; they are TN through and through!"

SummittsCourt writes:

Out of that list Tennessee is the best job available. 100,000+ stadium, new upgraded facilities, talent on board, tradition and of course, the SEC.

BolivrBob writes:

in response to brod:

looking like tuberville would be a good fit.

No way! His ears are too big!

snuffysmiff writes:

in response to cyclonevol87:

Tennessee is the best job open,And look for N.C.State to after James Franklin.

Debbie Yow, NC State AD says it ain't happening, says Franklin is happy with what he has built at Vanderbilt. Of course she could be blowing a smoke screen too.

snuffysmiff writes:

in response to SummittsCourt:

Out of that list Tennessee is the best job available. 100,000+ stadium, new upgraded facilities, talent on board, tradition and of course, the SEC.

I agree with most of what you say except I think the talent is lacking, on defense especially, and some of the best offensive talent may leave early.

orangecountyvols writes:

in response to rtrchatt:

Steal the limelight lol... you boys are as stale as month old bread.

Tell you what troll............why don't you just be grateful for what you have and shut the heck up on someone else's website?????

Stop showing everyone how a red neck acts.
We know you're an Alabama band wagon fan, that's fine. Do you have time to jabber on their website? Or as most trolls do, are you just consumed with that of a rival?

Enjoy the success the Tide has because as with every program.............it ends eventually.

HopeisNotaCourseofAction writes:

in response to brod:

looking like tuberville would be a good fit.

Tuberville's high water mark was about 6 years ago at awbun. Past three years at TT he is 20-17 overall, 9-17 in the Big 12. Can't win in the Big 12, and some want him here in the SEC?

What has he done for TT lately? This year 5-7 in Big 12, 7-5 overall. Beat powerhouses like NW State (who?), TX State and NM, but also lost 3 blowouts to ranked teams this year. Sound familiar? Been there, done that, burnt the T-shirt.

In 2011, 2-7 (conf record) and finished 9th in the Big 12. In 3 years, lost twice as many conf games as he has won.

Next!

AncientVolFan writes:

Biggest reason not to come to Tennessee: smaller recruiting base than other powerhouse SEC schools. Of course, if you just want to make 5 to 6 million for 3 years work then perhaps it doesn't matter. Do I understand correctly we paid Fulmer $6 million to leave and people complained. Are we paying Dooley $5 million to leave? Is that true or a misunderstanding. Surely Dooley got his money for the entire run.

alavol writes:

in response to HopeisNotaCourseofAction:

Tuberville's high water mark was about 6 years ago at awbun. Past three years at TT he is 20-17 overall, 9-17 in the Big 12. Can't win in the Big 12, and some want him here in the SEC?

What has he done for TT lately? This year 5-7 in Big 12, 7-5 overall. Beat powerhouses like NW State (who?), TX State and NM, but also lost 3 blowouts to ranked teams this year. Sound familiar? Been there, done that, burnt the T-shirt.

In 2011, 2-7 (conf record) and finished 9th in the Big 12. In 3 years, lost twice as many conf games as he has won.

Next!

here is a link to Auburn's fan base:
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-foot...

do not get Tuberville, get a real coach, Petrino!

pcorange writes:

in response to VolsFanInAfghanistan:

Whatever we decide to do or whoever we decide to hire is going to have to play catch up on the recruiting trail. Kids aren't truly going to wait around and the other schools are definitely going to use this against us just like they have in the past. Kids are going to start listening to all these coaches that have stable programs and then say "do you really want to go to a school that doesn't even know who their next coach is going to be". Are better yet " you see we made it to a post season bowl game, Tennessee hasn't be to the big bowls since when". Kids will sit and listen and change alliances because they feel the need to accept. So unless a parent says wait it out and see they will abandon ship one after the other. I sure don't hope thats the case. I love my Volunteers. GBO!!

Recruits often commit, decommit, and commit again several times during the recruiting process, often right up until national signing day. I'm not too worried about recruiting right now, because if we get a coach that has a proven track record and can bring back some excitement, he may be able to sway a few toward UT that have already committed elsewhere. Happens all the time.

CoverOrange writes:

If there is an annoucement this week it will be Saturday right before the SECCG. If not may have to start to wonder.

FearTheVols1252 writes:

in response to GlennFordsFoible:

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Thanks for enlightening us. I guess I'll stop being a fan now.

Turd!

pcorange writes:

in response to GlennFordsFoible:

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Well, why don't we just wait and see what happens? While I would prefer we had Tennessee blood, it isn't always necessary to. Other universities have ADs that are non-alums. Let's just give Hart time to do his job and see what happens. If he comes up flat, then we can start yelling for his head. He can't even interview active coaches until they are done playing ball.

HopeisNotaCourseofAction writes:

in response to alavol:

here is a link to Auburn's fan base:
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-foot...

do not get Tuberville, get a real coach, Petrino!

You mean Pathological Petrino, ole neck brace and bruised Bobby?

The former coach that lies to his bosses in every job he has had. Bolts from jobs unexpectedly. Can't drive a motorcycle with a young chick holding his dyck. You think rival coaches will mention his history and show his neck brace pic to high school studs' mamas in their living rooms during recruiting visits? Naa, they wouldn't do that would they?

Why do we want a liar liar pants on fire hire?

Next!

theghostoftriumph writes:

I really don't see Gruden going into college coaching. He is enjoying his rock star status
at ESPN. IMHO if he goes back into coaching it will be back in the NFL when someone like Jerry Jones offers him 7 million to fix the Cowboys.

lomas98 writes:

I wonder if these other schools have fans who have insider sources to the athletic department? It is comical seeing all of the message board phooey claiming someone knows something or has knowledge. Either other schools fans are not as stupid or their boosters know how to keep their mouth shut.

It is amazing how Auburn can win the national championship one season and be firing their coach 2 years after. This coaching business proves it is a gamble for a well established coach to move anywhere these days for a rebuilding effort.

poppatock writes:

I'm not suggesting that Petrino be the man, but would you rehire Bruce given the chance? How is his affair and lies any different than Petrinos?

brauhuff#295403 (Inactive) writes:

I agree Jimmy Cheek needs to have been gone years ago but so far I am impressed with Dave Hart. Hey, is it just me but does'nt Cheek look like the Scrooge in the cartoon version

theghostoftriumph writes:

in response to poppatock:

I'm not suggesting that Petrino be the man, but would you rehire Bruce given the chance? How is his affair and lies any different than Petrinos?

I see and respect your point but Petrino:
1) flirted with Auburn while still the coach of Louisville.
2)bailed in the middle of the night on the Falcons
3) lied to Arky.

Snapshot writes:

in response to rtrchatt:

Steal the limelight lol... you boys are as stale as month old bread.

Grow up chatterbox, one day the tide will return to their Mike Dubose, Mike Price, Mike Shula days and you will be nowhere to be found.

Why do you even CARE who UT hires as a coach? Will you have the stones to post on here if Ga. beats the tide? Probably not....

HopeisNotaCourseofAction writes:

in response to poppatock:

I'm not suggesting that Petrino be the man, but would you rehire Bruce given the chance? How is his affair and lies any different than Petrinos?

No, I would not rehire Bruce.

I liked him and what he did for UT bb, but, he brought disgrace to my alma mater, and for that he gets no second chance to make it right. Liars and thieves, no time for them.

These 2 aren't kids, they are grown men who knew the risk and repercussions - and did the wrong thing anyway, repeatedly.

And are my garmets or anyone's for that matter clean as the driven snow - nope. But Petrino and Pearl both lied on more than one occasion, so why believe they are suddenly trustworthy?

Nope, pathological liars need to go coach at uk, we don't need em here. Petrino and Calipari, even sounds like they belong together eating their calzones.

MR_VOL writes:

in response to Rumblefish:

I heard this morning on Dan Patrick that Gruden's Agent (no, not the dipspit poster on here) contacted TN to say he was interested talking to Tennessee FOR THE SOLE REASON to start a bidding war with ESPN, the Eagles, the Browns, Arky, etc.

GRUDEN IS NOT COMING TO TENNESSEE. He is just using the job opening to solicit better offers from somewhere else.

We do not need his kind here.

I agree with you about Jon using this attention to increase his own stock regardless of what occupation he chooses. Jon knows the more exposure and speculation that surrounds him the more money he can demand. I spoke with Jon at his wedding anniversary party back in the summer, and he made a statement that I have not seen mentioned on this [or any other] site, which pertains to his family. To paraphrase, he said he really enjoyed the amount of time he had to spend with his family, and that his work schedule was where he currently wanted it to be. With that said, this was before all the coaching jobs [college and professional] became available and the wallets opened.

Here is my suggestion for EVERYONE wanting Jon---go to the university and sign a donation contract thus guaranteeing his and his assistants salaries. The number I have heard on Jon is seven [$7,000,000] million base salary per year [for himself] and four [$4,000,000] million base salary for his assistant coaches---these numbers are not from the media or internet. Should Jon reenter coaching, he must be the highest paid coach in football regardless of it being on a college or professional level. Ideally, the university wants to spend around eight [$8,000,000] million [total] which would include the head and all assistant coaches.

I know exactly what “you” are thinking--- that is just three [$3,000,000] million dollars and “you” are correct, so “YOU” go and donate!

I know at the beginning of this coaching search the wallet was supposed to be opened wide but the above numbers for Jon [and staff] is simply not feasible, unless more donors are willing to step up and give. Jon may negotiate some, but it will still be higher than the amount the university wants to pay.

Hart only has a couple of “real” coaches on HIS list and the “dream” coach. The vast majority of these names being mentioned on this [and other] sites are not currently in the conversation. With the above said, should UT get shot down by the few coaches on Hart’s list, then obliviously some of these other names will be investigated, excluding Fulmer as he is not in consideration. Although not on Hart’s list, I suggested Jim Mora, Jr. as he fits well within the parameters of Hart’s needs and budget.

If the hiring goes as Hart has planned, I look for an announcement towards the end of next week. He is a no non-sense, direct and to the point person who knows who he wants as a coach.

gobigorange5090 writes:

in response to 45ReVOLver:

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Amen about John Majors. You posted the truth. I cant stand the SOB!

PUL4VOLS writes:

in response to BolivrBob:

This is probably all Bullochi but this was on FB..lol
TFWIW, this is a post reportedly by the hubby of Janet, who was a UT cheerleading teammate of Cindy Gruden.

"Janet said Cindy is so excited that Jon has officially agreed to the deal with the Vols. She wanted to be in Knoxville this week for the announcement but the kids have school; which they will stay at until the Christmas break. Yes, the announcement is happening this week according to Cindy and she is oozing with excitement. Again, congrats I think you'll love them; they are TN through and through!"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I am waiting, as this week is now here.

bebecerveza writes:

I heard from a guy here at work who mind you has no connection what so ever with UT, tell another guy here at work who again has no connection to UT that he has no idea like the other 99.9% of us who the nect coach is going to be.

whatthe84 writes:

in response to BeRealistic:

Stoops or Jimbo Fisher if possible. Gruden's college record 0-0. He would be a big gamble like DD.

Please tell me why Jimbo Fisher would leave FSU to come to UT, or why Bob Stoops would leave Oklahoma to come to UT? Fisher is in the state with the most talent in the southeast and has a program on the upswing, living in a state where most would like to live. Stoops is at one of the big time programs in the country bigger than UT I might add and has a much better program at this point than UT has. UT is an overhaul, if it were a house it would be a rip out to the floor joinst and to the studs. The cupboard is pretty much empty with SEC talent and the 2013 class looks like a good year for Wake Forest. You cannot find an SEC quality RB on the roster or on the recruiting list. This programs has got a ways to go to be competing with the big boys in this league. You are dreaming if you think one these two would leave for UT. Why don't we just get Saban heck he would jump at the chance to coach UT...right. Right now we are a second rate program lets face it. The last hire should have proved that, nobody big time wanted it when Derek Dooley (who) with a horrible head coaching record finally took the job. All the plumbing is stopped up and toilets are full we got big problems boys.

DeltaCharlie3 writes:

in response to titletownz:

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I'm hearing even Zook is not interested.

yabadabadoo1026 writes:

For whatever its worth . prob nothing, Chuck Oliver, Mr College Football on atlanta radio and who is tapped in sees it going down like this

Arky---Gary Patterson
Kentucky--Willie Taggart (west kent head coach)
Auburn--James Franklin
Tenn---Kirby Smart

RollTideJoe writes:

in response to HopeisNotaCourseofAction:

Let's go AD, you have competition for the best available. But this is TENNESSEE, we deserve the best.

Get it right and let's have a big announcement just before the SEC CG to steal some limelight from that event and get us off to jump start on our recruiting!

Doubt anyone is nationally or intra-SEC gives a hoot about your coaching story that would steal any limelight on the SEC Championship. Good luck with that! You need to be more concerned competing with Arkansas and Auburn who have fertile recruiting grounds for recruits than stealing anyone's limelight.

dwolfcreek#397971 writes:

in response to Rumblefish:

I heard this morning on Dan Patrick that Gruden's Agent (no, not the dipspit poster on here) contacted TN to say he was interested talking to Tennessee FOR THE SOLE REASON to start a bidding war with ESPN, the Eagles, the Browns, Arky, etc.

GRUDEN IS NOT COMING TO TENNESSEE. He is just using the job opening to solicit better offers from somewhere else.

We do not need his kind here.

I herd cattle .

takespix writes:

Looks like a lot of competition for big name coaching...history says UT will be stuck scraping the bottom of the bargain basement once again and scaping the bottom of the SEC cellar for the next decade!

pcorange writes:

in response to GlennFordsFoible:

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You are a real d!ck. If you were half as slick as you think you are, you'd be running General Electric instead of thumping your chest on a message board. Don't feel like the Lone Ranger, most everybody here that hadn't already made their mind up before then knew after the Kentucky game last year that Dooley didn't have it. We didn't need you to "predict" it for us, like you're the only one here who thought we might have another losing season. Get off your high horse, jackwagon. You don't know any more than anybody else here. You may be right about Dave Hart, and then again you may be wrong. Time will tell, but right now all you're doing is guessing and you know you have a 50-50 chance of being right. Anybody can do that.

gobigorange5090 writes:

in response to DeltaCharlie3:

I'm hearing even Zook is not interested.

Rumor has it you arent interested either.

Flyfisherman writes:

in response to titletownz:

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I wouldn't trust the Zooker in an outhouse with a muzzle on. That playbook faxing, slinking out of Knoxville in the middle of the night shifty son of a gun...

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