David Climer: Derek Dooley may see own fate in treatment of Pat Summitt

Tennessee head coach Derek Dooley talks to Tyler Bray (8) as he comes off the field during first half action against Akron Saturday, Sep. 22, 2012.

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Tennessee head coach Derek Dooley talks to Tyler Bray (8) as he comes off the field during first half action against Akron Saturday, Sep. 22, 2012.

Wonder if Derek Dooley is paying any attention to the current goings-on at Tennessee as they relate to Pat Summitt and Dave Hart?

Court documents in a lawsuit brought by former Lady Vols publicist Debby Jennings include a sworn affidavit by Summitt in which she states that Hart told her prior to the NCAA tournament that she would not return as coach for the 2012-13 season.

Summitt, who announced prior to last season she had been diagnosed with early onset dementia, described the meeting with Hart as “surprising” and “very hurtful.” Summitt acknowledged a subsequent meeting at which Hart indicated she had “misinterpreted what he said.”

While we’ll leave it up to the courts to determine the merits of Jennings’ complaint, this much is clear: Hart is a tough customer. In his role as UT’s athletics director, he’s not afraid to make the hard call. He doesn’t worry about hurting anybody’s feelings. He isn’t averse to change.

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BrassMonkey writes:

First. We could only hope so. Fire that joker!

BigOrangeFever76 (Inactive) writes:

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BigOrangeFever76 (Inactive) writes:

in response to collegegrovebilly:

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Toddygirl....someone pointed out the other day that you are actually 53 years old. And here I thought you were only around 46-47 years old with plans to move out of mommy's house by age 50. I guess you have adjusted your goal to move out by 60 now, huh? Congrats!

KFDLaw writes:

My best guess, and it is only a guess, is that Hart is currently trying to find someone to occupy Dooley's chair, but he is not having much luck. He probably will not give Dooley the pink slip until he has someone ready to hit the road to Knoxville. Hamilton's legacy has made our program look like a huge mess that will take years to turn around.

DeltaCharlie3 writes:

"The curse of Phillip Fulmer." You fired a man that loved Tennessee more than himself.

Since then, you've had nothing but selfless, bad characters running things, from Pearl, to Kiffin, to Hamilton and Hart. Dooley is a high character guy, he just can't coach worth a lick.

You might not ever recover. Hope the Fulmer haters are happy.

HopeisNotaCourseofAction writes:

This transcript of a phone converstation between the TN Athletic Director and Derek Dooley was just discovered on a computer hard drive removed from the AD office. Interesting...

UT AD calling LA Tech Coach Derek Dooley January 5th, 2010: "Derek, this is the TENNESSEE AD and I would like to offer you the job at TENNESSEE."

Dooley on a cell phone somewhere in rural LA: "You are not coming in very well but you want me to do an ad for Hennessy?"

UT AD: "No Derek, I want you to coach at TENNESSEE."

Dooley: "Why yes, I will toast to Hennessy, I like that brand."

UT AD: "No, I want you to coach, and will pay you over a million dollars a year."

Dooley: A million dollars, WOW, I never thought I would make that much, ever!"

UT AD: "So you will take the job to coach our great UNIVERSITY of TENNESSEE FOOTBALLL TEAM?"

Dooley: after a long pause..."You want me to coach the VOLUNTEERS? Are you sure you called the right Coach Dooley, cuz my Dad is right here..."

And that boys and girls, is how it all started.

vq4nfo writes:

Well UT hired a coach from the Western Athletic Conference (WAC). I do not understand all the negatives. You get what you pay for and learn to live with it. Just look at where all the coaches came from and experience level they had that are in the SEC Top 25.

If UT loses to Mississippi State it will be at best the music bowl again and Hart may very well start looking for an experienced coach if the $$$ comes in from the boosters. If not money then another season of getting back to the fundamentals.

arkyvol writes:

i'm gonna need some help with this one. for some reason, its hard for me to see any similarity between a coach with eight national championships, a thousand plus wins, zero losing seasons, and on and on with one whose only apparent qualification is his last name and is still in search of his second non-losing season. (its also hard for me to consider a season of wins over cupcakes and near death programs as a "winning" season).

lemme_axya_this writes:

Is Dave Hart getting legal advice from the same folks that neglected to tell Bruce Pearl about the NCAA having those pictures?
If so, maybe the should consider a change there also.

SCVFL writes:

in response to KFDLaw:

My best guess, and it is only a guess, is that Hart is currently trying to find someone to occupy Dooley's chair, but he is not having much luck. He probably will not give Dooley the pink slip until he has someone ready to hit the road to Knoxville. Hamilton's legacy has made our program look like a huge mess that will take years to turn around.

The absolute worst thing that could happen to the VOL program would be to let CDD go in the middle of the season. Hart might not be a nice guy or even a heartfelt Volunteer, but he is not an idiot either. So even if he was thinking about cutting CDD, he would not let it out and destroy all chances of getting a replacement, better or worse.
I believe if CDD win all of the "should wins" he will be back next year, unless he gets totally embarrassed in the next 3 games. And IMVHO, I think that is enough to earn him one more year.

GO BIG RNG...VFL

PHAT_VOL writes:

in response to DeltaCharlie3:

"The curse of Phillip Fulmer." You fired a man that loved Tennessee more than himself.

Since then, you've had nothing but selfless, bad characters running things, from Pearl, to Kiffin, to Hamilton and Hart. Dooley is a high character guy, he just can't coach worth a lick.

You might not ever recover. Hope the Fulmer haters are happy.

Who is YOU!

Go tell Georgia and the other SEC fans that Coach Dooley cant coach lick. Sense you know so much about licking.

PHAT_VOL writes:

We were looking for a Hamilton replacement when we found Hart.

There are a lot of people who would like to have Mr. Harts position.

GO VOLS!!!

SCVFL writes:

in response to arkyvol:

i'm gonna need some help with this one. for some reason, its hard for me to see any similarity between a coach with eight national championships, a thousand plus wins, zero losing seasons, and on and on with one whose only apparent qualification is his last name and is still in search of his second non-losing season. (its also hard for me to consider a season of wins over cupcakes and near death programs as a "winning" season).

Arky,
I think the point is that if he would force CPHS out with her marvelous history, then removing CDD would not even require a tearful eye.
Hammy went through several "thanks, but NO THANKS" before ending with CDD. IMO Hammy was thinking that at least CDD had name recognition.
I am still supporting CDD, which was hard after Fl and slightly less hard after Ga. And if VOLS play hard and do not get totally embarrased in next 3 and then win out rest of season, I will give my vote(worthless by the way)to giving CDD one more year.

GO BIG RNG...VFL

orangepeel writes:

in response to DeltaCharlie3:

"The curse of Phillip Fulmer." You fired a man that loved Tennessee more than himself.

Since then, you've had nothing but selfless, bad characters running things, from Pearl, to Kiffin, to Hamilton and Hart. Dooley is a high character guy, he just can't coach worth a lick.

You might not ever recover. Hope the Fulmer haters are happy.

A-men brother.

Pullingguard writes:

Hart is exactly what is and was needed at UT.. the mealy-mouse way things were happening resulted in where the athletic dept was and is. Let's just hope Hart gets it straight and all you Pat fanatical lovers and Debbie supporters need to hear all the facts before jumping to conclusions...Pat Summitt did a great service to UT and does not need to be dragged down this slimy path of he said,she said law suit originated by a woman who did what at the university that justified her even being there...Just more overhead..Was she a relative or friend to Pat Summitt?

born2ride writes:

Dave Hart should have fired Dooley after the Kentucky loss. The team quit and there is no excuse for that.

VolzsFan writes:

in response to DeltaCharlie3:

"The curse of Phillip Fulmer." You fired a man that loved Tennessee more than himself.

Since then, you've had nothing but selfless, bad characters running things, from Pearl, to Kiffin, to Hamilton and Hart. Dooley is a high character guy, he just can't coach worth a lick.

You might not ever recover. Hope the Fulmer haters are happy.

AMEN!!!

VolzsFan writes:

in response to KFDLaw:

My best guess, and it is only a guess, is that Hart is currently trying to find someone to occupy Dooley's chair, but he is not having much luck. He probably will not give Dooley the pink slip until he has someone ready to hit the road to Knoxville. Hamilton's legacy has made our program look like a huge mess that will take years to turn around.

He already has Kirby Smart teed up and on his way to Knoxville regardless of how this miserable season ends. It was a done deal this summer. Sal is not here because he is some magical defensive guru or tactician, he is here to keep recruiting in order during the transition.

vq4nfo writes:

I came to the conclusion that it is all Alabamas fault. Everything UT has WRT Football has Saban written all over. Just another way to make sure UT will not be competitive in the SEC. I bet he is laughing every day there is a new article about the program.

dwolfcreek#397971 writes:

in response to DeltaCharlie3:

"The curse of Phillip Fulmer." You fired a man that loved Tennessee more than himself.

Since then, you've had nothing but selfless, bad characters running things, from Pearl, to Kiffin, to Hamilton and Hart. Dooley is a high character guy, he just can't coach worth a lick.

You might not ever recover. Hope the Fulmer haters are happy.

You Fulmer fans are part of the problem , you can't remember how screwed up Fulmer got this problem .

Sir_Spanky writes:

in response to DeltaCharlie3:

"The curse of Phillip Fulmer." You fired a man that loved Tennessee more than himself.

Since then, you've had nothing but selfless, bad characters running things, from Pearl, to Kiffin, to Hamilton and Hart. Dooley is a high character guy, he just can't coach worth a lick.

You might not ever recover. Hope the Fulmer haters are happy.

Just for the record, and for the 437th time, there's a difference between hating somebody and having the intelligence to understand a change is appropriate. Knowing you to be a FL troll, who for some reason likes to hang out on this site, I would suspect your motive for wanting him here would have nothing to do with what's right or wrong, but rather for more sinister reasons. : )

thevoice writes:

in response to Sir_Spanky:

Just for the record, and for the 437th time, there's a difference between hating somebody and having the intelligence to understand a change is appropriate. Knowing you to be a FL troll, who for some reason likes to hang out on this site, I would suspect your motive for wanting him here would have nothing to do with what's right or wrong, but rather for more sinister reasons. : )

Amen (first sentence).

DonK37920 writes:

in response to Pullingguard:

Hart is exactly what is and was needed at UT.. the mealy-mouse way things were happening resulted in where the athletic dept was and is. Let's just hope Hart gets it straight and all you Pat fanatical lovers and Debbie supporters need to hear all the facts before jumping to conclusions...Pat Summitt did a great service to UT and does not need to be dragged down this slimy path of he said,she said law suit originated by a woman who did what at the university that justified her even being there...Just more overhead..Was she a relative or friend to Pat Summitt?

Well Said!

VolFanInTheBoro (Inactive) writes:

in response to DeltaCharlie3:

"The curse of Phillip Fulmer." You fired a man that loved Tennessee more than himself.

Since then, you've had nothing but selfless, bad characters running things, from Pearl, to Kiffin, to Hamilton and Hart. Dooley is a high character guy, he just can't coach worth a lick.

You might not ever recover. Hope the Fulmer haters are happy.

little zz, why would you even care

jryevols#222657 writes:

True Vol Fans

How many of you had the opportunity to ever watch the movie " COOL RUNNINGS " it is about the Jamician first bob sled team in the olympics. Do you remember how they always thought in order to win or have a chance they shoud copy and be just like the " SWISS " ...... In our case are we trying to be just like Alabama? In the movie the one comment was from the team " We are Jamicians , so lets act like Jamacians..... We are Tennesseans.... so lets start remembering the pride we once held and how teams wanted to be like us...a team with CLASS.Let Alabama and all its inhabitants stay " Classless "

Pullingguard writes:

in response to WaltGoVols:

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Let the facts speak for themselves on what was said and done. For some reason I cannot believe Pat was given an ultimatum to retire, however we all know that is what she should have wanted to do and was done in her own words..U know this lawsuit cannot add nothing but negatives for Summitt for she cannot win anything positive from it...

StoneJackBaller writes:

The jury is still out on Dave Hart. He seems like a tough customer, what we might need. Like I said, Dooley's job security comes down to this: Beat MS State and/or SC/Alabama. If that doesn't happen and we lose all 3 games, we're looking at 7-5 or worse. That don't cut it and the moving vans will be in Dooley's driveway...guaranteed!

In regards to Summitt, she really, really needs to let this go. She's a legend for sure. The last thing she needs to do is cause a problem for UT.

mountainbrook writes:

in response to collegegrovebilly:

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Dumpster fire is a pretty accurate description of the mess left behind by Fulmer's neglect and Kiffin's abandonment.

StoneJackBaller writes:

in response to Pullingguard:

Let the facts speak for themselves on what was said and done. For some reason I cannot believe Pat was given an ultimatum to retire, however we all know that is what she should have wanted to do and was done in her own words..U know this lawsuit cannot add nothing but negatives for Summitt for she cannot win anything positive from it...

I recall her and Tyler saying on ESPN that she went out on her own terms...

pms151 writes:

This is right on point. This is why we true Vol fans read David Climer and not suck in the insane ravings of KNS staff. The nationally acclaimed Houston Chronicle sports writer John Mclain once told me that David was the best that Tennessee has to offer. He did not mean that to be demeaning. They covered the newly implanted Oilers in Nashville together. I think he stands alone in true and pure evaluation of the UT sports scene. It is up to Dave Hart to prove he is not just looking to make up for his failings of the past. We do not need an egotistical SOB running our program. It is better just to start over quickly if so determined. We certainly do not want to be the Auburn of the SEC.

Pompey writes:

....UT athletics department is one of the oldest "ole boy clubs" in all of college athletics. This must change ASAP and Hart is the unfortunate soul that has chosen to do it. A corupt AD is one of the reasons big name football coaches will run from the job....think Hamilton.
That being said Hart should have known that handling Summit was a land mine that required a full bomb squad....she is Hall of Fame dude!

underthehill writes:

in response to StoneJackBaller:

The jury is still out on Dave Hart. He seems like a tough customer, what we might need. Like I said, Dooley's job security comes down to this: Beat MS State and/or SC/Alabama. If that doesn't happen and we lose all 3 games, we're looking at 7-5 or worse. That don't cut it and the moving vans will be in Dooley's driveway...guaranteed!

In regards to Summitt, she really, really needs to let this go. She's a legend for sure. The last thing she needs to do is cause a problem for UT.

You should have done more research before the comment on Summitt..she can not chose to let this go..she did not file the suit..I hope the suit is settled and there would be no further involvement of Pat..I don't know if the jury is still out on Hart or not..the evidence I have heard seems to indicate otherwise..

DukeDeLuca2 writes:

Get a grip, people!

Let's assume for a minute that it's true that Hart told Summitt she wouldn't return for next season. Just pretend it's true.

1) Doesn't he have that option? Isn't he the athletic director?

2) Summitt had the right to cut players she felt didn't meet her expectations.

3) Pat is a wonderful woman and she has been compensated extremely well thanks to the deep pockets of the men's athletic department. She deserves all the praise she is getting.

4) If Pat had kept the job until she passed away, there would still be a group of Lady Vol boosters who wouldn't want her replacement named until a year of mourning had passed out of respect for her.

5) Pat Summitt, for all her accomplishments, is still human. She has dementia. I'm disappointed that she didn't resign her position when she was diagnosed. She owed it to the University of Tennessee and she took the money instead of leaving gracefully. She wasn't up to doing her job at peak performance. She came to the games last year and sat on the bench, but that wasn't the Pat Summitt we know and love.

6) We had a very unique setup at UT with dual athletic departments. It was one of the last in the country and arguably the most successful women's athletic department in the country. It's only human, only natural, that a great deal of resentment has followed the merger. But it had to happen. The men's athletic department has supported the women's side all these years because of Title IX. Accounting moves to the contrary, the women's athletic department never truly supported itself, and it certainly didn't support the lavish spending on salaries, annually redecorated women's facilities, and the high-living road trips.

7) Get off Dave Hart's back. He has inherited a wreck of an athletic department. He's gonna step on more toes than Pat Summitt and Debby Jennings before this rebuilding job is finished. If he doesn't succeed, we all suffer.

VolGrad writes:

in response to collegegrovebilly:

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And you would describe it as...?

usafvol writes:

in response to collegegrovebilly:

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Are you 12 years old or just stupid?

RollTideJoe writes:

in response to vq4nfo:

I came to the conclusion that it is all Alabamas fault. Everything UT has WRT Football has Saban written all over. Just another way to make sure UT will not be competitive in the SEC. I bet he is laughing every day there is a new article about the program.

How absurd. Do you really think there is some mystical connection between Alabama and Tennessee to influence staffing decisions? Give me a break. We live in a messed-up world, but it's not that diabolical.

VolGrad writes:

in response to WaltGoVols:

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That 2007 SECCG was Fulmer's reprieve (thanks to 2 years of David Cutcliffe back as OC), not the result of "Fulmer's neglect." That actually came in 2008 with the hiring of Dave Clawson as his OC. He never could seem to adequately replace Coach Cut.

DukeDeLuca2 writes:

Let me help you flip the page, Walt.

RollTideJoe writes:

in response to collegegrovebilly:

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Billy, Climer is a UT grad. This is another paranoia among UT faithful. He's a reporter. Everything he writes isn't necessarily to please UT or any other school. He writes things about Alabama, Georgia, etc. Some of you folks think Climer hates you, ESPN hates you, on and on. Just because some things written are not through orange colored glasses does not mean there is a conspiracy against you.

DukeDeLuca2 writes:

Get off Dave Hart's back!

Let's assume for a minute that it's true that Hart told Summitt she wouldn't return for next season. Just pretend it's true.

1) Doesn't he have that option? Isn't he the athletic director?

2) Summitt had the right to cut players she felt didn't meet her expectations.

3) Pat is a wonderful woman and she has been compensated extremely well thanks to the deep pockets of the men's athletic department. She deserves all the praise she is getting.

4) If Pat had kept the job until she passed away, there would still be a group of Lady Vol boosters who wouldn't want her replacement named until a year of mourning had passed out of respect for her.

5) Pat Summitt, for all her accomplishments, is still human. She has dementia. I'm disappointed that she didn't resign her position when she was diagnosed. She owed it to the University of Tennessee and she took the money instead of leaving gracefully. She wasn't up to doing her job at peak performance. She came to the games last year and sat on the bench, but that wasn't the Pat Summitt we know and love.

6) We had a very unique setup at UT with dual athletic departments. It was one of the last in the country and arguably the most successful women's athletic department in the country. It's only human, only natural, that a great deal of resentment has followed the merger. But it had to happen. The men's athletic department has supported the women's side all these years because of Title IX. Accounting moves to the contrary, the women's athletic department never truly supported itself, and it certainly didn't support the lavish spending on salaries, annually redecorated women's facilities, and the high-living road trips.

7) Get off Dave Hart's back. He has inherited a wreck of an athletic department. He's gonna step on more toes than Pat Summitt and Debby Jennings before this rebuilding job is finished. If he doesn't succeed, we all suffer.

VolGrad writes:

in response to WaltGoVols:

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I was asking collegegrovebilly for how he would describe it, trying to see if he had any different description, Walt. Unless you and he are the same person, I'm not sure why you responded.... (though I do have a good idea)

abnerPeabody writes:

in response to dwolfcreek#397971:

You Fulmer fans are part of the problem , you can't remember how screwed up Fulmer got this problem .

And you can't seem to comperhend how much farther we have declined since he was ousted.

Fulmer is gone and no matter how much he is praised nor how much he is bashed,it will not change anything.He will not return.

You need to grow up and realize your opinion is worth no more or less than the next guy.To think otherwise is just plain sinceless.Stop thinking you are the greatest.You are actually showing how ignorant you are.

OrangePsyched writes:

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secondcreek writes:

in response to KremsersWaywardWallop:

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Johnny Majors' accomplishments as a player alone at UT and being the runner-up to the Heisman Trophy award justify retiring his number.

abnerPeabody writes:

in response to StoneJackBaller:

I recall her and Tyler saying on ESPN that she went out on her own terms...

I remember telling my wife what a great Meat Loaf she made for dinner.She believed me until she had to clean up the sick mess the dog deposited under the table.

vq4nfo writes:

in response to RollTideJoe:

How absurd. Do you really think there is some mystical connection between Alabama and Tennessee to influence staffing decisions? Give me a break. We live in a messed-up world, but it's not that diabolical.

You took the sarcasm well. Try this, it started in LSU when Saban was head coach and Phill piss*d him off. Saban swore that he would evenually get back at UT. So he took a job in Miami and hired Dooley, knowing that Dooley would get a head coaching position at a WAC school. When Kiffen flew the coup, Saban called Mike and told him what a great coach he was at Miami. The rest is history.

GBOEngineer writes:

in response to DeltaCharlie3:

"The curse of Phillip Fulmer." You fired a man that loved Tennessee more than himself.

Since then, you've had nothing but selfless, bad characters running things, from Pearl, to Kiffin, to Hamilton and Hart. Dooley is a high character guy, he just can't coach worth a lick.

You might not ever recover. Hope the Fulmer haters are happy.

It's one thing to question Hamilton's performance (although most people don't really understand the AD job, so they make poor judgements), but it is totally absurd to call Hamilton a bad character.

By the way, I loved Fulmer, but it was time for him to go.

DukeDeLuca2 writes:

in response to dwolfcreek#397971:

You Fulmer fans are part of the problem , you can't remember how screwed up Fulmer got this problem .

8 games before he was fired in mid-season, Fulmer's team won the SEC East and almost won the SEC Championship Game.

How screwed up is that, bubba?

When Fulmer was fired in mid-season, the Vols laid down and quit, losing the next week to Wyoming.

I'm gonna be one mad (and former) Big Orange fan if my alma mater fires Dooley after he has done so much to rebuild our talent base and restore integrity in the program.

I WILL NOT TOLERATE a 4th head coach in six years. That will be the last straw, the last sign that this athletic department cannot be redeemed.

I know thousands of others who stand with me.

No. Absolutely not!

We will NOT fire Derek Dooley!

DukeDeLuca2 writes:

in response to GBOEngineer:

It's one thing to question Hamilton's performance (although most people don't really understand the AD job, so they make poor judgements), but it is totally absurd to call Hamilton a bad character.

By the way, I loved Fulmer, but it was time for him to go.

Mike Hamilton was a one-man "Weapon of Mass Destruction."

He never should have be named AD. He was a good fund raiser who was promoted to a position outside his area of competence. It was the Peter Principle in action.

Hamilton was universally loathed inside the athletic department.

He did an absolutely horrible job. He was an inept administrator who fired or forcibly retired everyone who had more experience or was a department head while he was a fund raiser. You can look it up.

He hired people with few or checkered credentials, but who would be loyal to him for the second chance (Bruce Pearl and Lane Kiffin for example) and the huge step up (Derek Dooley).

I'm 60. I don't expect to live long enough to see UT recover from the damage that Hamilton did to our athletic department.
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shipperman#280095 writes:

I THINK DUKE DELUCA AND WALT ARE PHIL FULMER'S KIDS

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