Derek Dooley will issue directives via headset to coaches

UT head coach Derek Dooley leads the team against Akron at Neyland Stadium on Saturday, Sept. 22, 2012. (AMY SMOTHERMAN BURGESS/NEWS SENTINEL)

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UT head coach Derek Dooley leads the team against Akron at Neyland Stadium on Saturday, Sept. 22, 2012. (AMY SMOTHERMAN BURGESS/NEWS SENTINEL)

Tennessee football practice without Dooley - Oct. 10, 2012

Tennessee coach Derek Dooley wasn’t at practice this morning, but his presence was still felt.

Special teams coach Charlie Coiner said he received an early morning text from his boss asking about practice preparations. How early?

“You don’t want to know how early it was,” Coiner said.

Dooley, who might also miss Thursday’s practice, will coach from the press box at Mississippi State. The Vols (3-2, 0-2 SEC) play the 19th-ranked Bulldogs (5-0, 2-0) at Davis Wade Stadium on Saturday (TV: ESPN2, 9 p.m.)

Coaches said there would be no administrative changes and that Dooley would issue directives via headset to coaches on the field.

Offensive coordinator Jim Chaney said he expects a smooth transition.

“I talked to coach Dooley on headsets before. Now he’ll be sitting beside me,” said offensive coordinator Jim Chaney, who coaches from the press box.

Evan Woodbery covers Tennessee football. Follow him at www.Twitter.com/TennesseeBeat.

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StoneJackBaller writes:

Maybe Dooley's luck will change sitting in the press box. Then again, maybe not.

CarlChilders writes:

Perhaps this will make for some quicker adjustments on D? Wonder if he'll wear orange pants?

ALL_VOL75 writes:

just when I thought it couldn't possibly get any worse...

VolzsFan writes:

with any luck the system will go down and neither team will have press box communication.

BrassMonkey writes:

Remember when Paterno beat UT in the Outback bowl from the press box? This may be Dooley's new gig. I wish him a speedy recovery.

BeRealistic writes:

Maybe this is something he should have tried before, just saying.

silentmajority writes:

Although I wish Mr. Dooley a quick and satsfactory recovery, I cant help wondering. Maybe, just MAYBE, the Vols will do no worse without him than with him.

orangecountyvols writes:

Vols,

Are the trolls and naysayers quite finished?
Any other topics for them?

Sort of a downer being away from this site for a while and coming back what do you see?
Same old whiners and a smattering of trolls such as Volszfan, the Brass *** Monkey etc.

We'll be okay with the situation we have for Saturday night. Regardless, you'll hear from the trolls one way or the other.

NavalOranges........don't let the trolls run you off. You're better by far than those idiots.

pcshowtime writes:

What is a headset in Strakville MS? Two cans with some string in between them.

TrouserCough writes:

Relax, we're in good hands

DavidB writes:

in response to powerTbaby:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

Ok, who are you going to get to replace him? Like orangecountyvols I am tired of coming on here and people complaining is 90% of the posts. Come up with a solution for the Vols instead of slamming them. Sure Saban would be a great replacement for Dooley but do you see him coming to UT next year?

Coaches looking at taking a job somewhere also consider the fan base. If you have a huge supportive fan base then the job is going to be more attractive. If you have a fan base that constantly bashes the coaches and players and attacks other fans on a regular basis then the job becomes less attractive.

Fulmer was a great coach but he is gone, time to move on. Either support the Vols or move on to something better.

FWBVol writes:

in response to powerTbaby:

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Did you ever stop to consider that the success La. Tech is having is because of the foundation Derek Dooley built with that program? Go to the La. Tech web site and count the number of redshirt juniors, seniors and redshirt seniors on that team -- players recruited and signed by Derek Dooley -- and you will see there are more than 40 upper classman on that team left from Derek Dooley's time.

Now go back to 2008 and 2009 -- Fulmer's last year and Kiffin's only year and count the number of players are left from those two squads and you will find Tennessee has 15 players on ther roster that are redshirt juniors, seniors or redshirt seniors. That's a big gap in leadership.

Urban Meyer at Ohio State walked into a team loaded with talent. The same is true of Muschamp at Florida.

When you talk about recruiting you leave out the fact that there is probably more potential SEC players playing high school ball in the Orlando area than there are in the state of Tennessee.

I don't like losing any more than the next guy, but I understand what kind of shape the Tennessee program was in when Dooley took the job that nobody seemed to want at the time. You point out what Muschamp has done at Florida, but you seem to forget that he was one of the coaches that was said to have turned the Vols down before Dooley took the job.

Can I say beyond a reasonable doubt that Derek Dooley will be the guy that leads us back to prominence? No, but I see good things happening within the program. This is year three of a very difficult rebuilding process and we are getting better. Unless there is a complet meltdown in the next seven weeks, IMO, Derek Dooley deserves a year four.

If we win Saturday then an 8-4 regular season is a real probability and a 9-3 season is a possibility. This team has been down so long that there are no longer any players on the roster that know or understand what it's like to win a big game in the Southeastern Conference. Once we get that first meaningful win against a ranked team I believe the team will take off.

Does that mean we will beat Alabama? Probably not. Does it mean we will beat South Carolina? Maybe.

But even a 7-5 season is a step forward, not as big as I'd like, but it's still moving forward and that is something we can build on.

As for the recruiting rankings, the Kansas State team you mentioned never cracks the top five or 10 in recruiting rankings and Virginia Tech is another team that constantly turns out 10-win seasons without having highly touted recruiting classes.

As I said, I believe Derek Dooley can get the job done, but I'm not certain that he can. But we need to give him at least one more year before we go changing coaching staffs again because that's just what will happen if you fire Dooley.

FEARinSEC writes:

in response to KremsersWaywardWallop:

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You're funny... Like what you say on a message board will actually have any effect on the outcome.
LOL!!

huntined#565710 writes:

ESPN CLASSIC SHOWING Tenn Miss State sec championship game in 1998

StoneJackBaller writes:

in response to powerTbaby:

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Good post...I've been and still am a Dooley supporter...but good post. I will say this...if we lose to MS State Saturday night, I may turn to the dark side - which may end up being the bright side.

VOL_IN_BAMA writes:

in response to pcshowtime:

What is a headset in Strakville MS? Two cans with some string in between them.

That's hilarious!

StoneJackBaller writes:

in response to KremsersWaywardWallop:

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I'm feeling the pull...I'm hearing in my head: "come to the dark side". I'll let you know Sunday morning.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

Hmmmm. All trolls. I wonder if naval and some others had trouble getting into this site today. I know I did. I guess the powers that be possibly don't won't the negative "posterers" slammed so much. Or maybe the systems down or something.

Dooley's here to STAY!yeah Big Orange.

Go Vols Go Dooley go team.

PHAT_VOL writes:

While coach Dooley is in the press box with a head set the Miss. St. Bulldogs will be ringing their cow bells without a clapper. The bulldogs will not be able to out score the Vols!
Other losers,
Kentucky
Missouri
Texas A&M
Vandy
LSU
Ole Miss

jobrando#216494 writes:

in response to mocsandvolsfan:

Hmmmm. All trolls. I wonder if naval and some others had trouble getting into this site today. I know I did. I guess the powers that be possibly don't won't the negative "posterers" slammed so much. Or maybe the systems down or something.

Dooley's here to STAY!yeah Big Orange.

Go Vols Go Dooley go team.

Blank Check? Sound good to me. I have adapted to losing.

PHAT_VOL writes:

in response to KremsersWaywardWallop:

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And who are you that you would know? Just another snot nose.

GO VOLS!!!

jobrando#216494 writes:

in response to FEARinSEC:

You're funny... Like what you say on a message board will actually have any effect on the outcome.
LOL!!

Yours want either..The only folks that matter are the ones that choose to go to Neyland and pay to see the VOLS. They have real votes. This is just a venting site for those for and aganst Dooley.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

in response to jobrando#216494:

Blank Check? Sound good to me. I have adapted to losing.

Hey man, it's not losing that's hard. It's the almost winning that's hard. Almost beating the ranked teams is much harder to me than losing heavily. It's "glass half empty vs glass half full"?
Be as negative as you want it makes no difference really except to your own "drum".
Wait a minute!! You almost had me there.

BigOrangeFever76 (Inactive) writes:

in response to VolzsFan:

with any luck the system will go down and neither team will have press box communication.

with any luck waffle house will stop allowing employees like you to surf the web while at work.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

in response to jobrando#216494:

Yours want either..The only folks that matter are the ones that choose to go to Neyland and pay to see the VOLS. They have real votes. This is just a venting site for those for and aganst Dooley.

hey dude!! the eruhh "want" thing?? you know will not... won't?? I never understood where the o came from but that's the contraction.

While I'm at it I'm a'gin words like "aganst"

I suspect that some of you 'under the bridge' types are missspelling on purpose to throw off the scent of being a "plant" of some sort.

BigOrangeFever76 (Inactive) writes:

in response to KremsersWaywardWallop:

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Somehow Flowers I am not surprised you responded to a fellow troll named longrod. Bet that name immediately caught your eye. Don't give him too much attention...toddyboy will get jealous.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

..."too ooh much time on my hands I've got too ooh much time on my hands..." ahhh music soothes the wild beast. Soooo maybe the trolls can go away now. If not, then the song also applies to me.

firetst#220411 writes:

Tennessee has a great tradition, one of the top six in the country. Coaches are hired and paid to win period, big bucks I might add. He should have been able to build a better team and provide better leadership by now. 2.5 seasons and things look a lot worse to me. Even the mediocre teams give UT all they can handle. If you want to know how bad things really are go to the SEC Stats.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

in response to BigOrangeFever76:

with any luck waffle house will stop allowing employees like you to surf the web while at work.

That explains those OVERDONE EGGS!!

Go Vols

orangecountyvols writes:

Vols,

You real Vol fans that is. I probably hate where we've been more than just about anyone. And, I've done my share of griping at times when things have not gone our way. However, that's where it stops.

I, and most real Vol fans do not, I repeat, do not get on here every single day saying the same thing, firing the coach, griping continuously over and over, knowing full well that such chatter is fairly immature and accomplishes nothing. We know several jerks here have real issues. That won't change even if we win them all. This longrod character, well, not quite sure which category to put him in........let's just say in all actuality, he comes across as the d.b.

Jeff, the so-called Volszfan, ( even Merlot so correctly identified him as a KNS plant ) and several others we all know too well, are here for no redeeming reason. Simply to complain 24/7. We ( Vol fans ) all want to see the team win. If it doesn't work out, we wait and see what happens. It's not necessary to be whining and griping at this point.

IMO, a bunch of frustrated jerks plus the assortment of trolls pulls this site down.

Go Vols and let's play the game and see how it plays out.

jobrando#216494 writes:

in response to mocsandvolsfan:

hey dude!! the eruhh "want" thing?? you know will not... won't?? I never understood where the o came from but that's the contraction.

While I'm at it I'm a'gin words like "aganst"

I suspect that some of you 'under the bridge' types are missspelling on purpose to throw off the scent of being a "plant" of some sort.

but the truth hurts folks like you that think they have some impact mouthing on this site.. I accept the fact that I dont. Once again those folks that are important are those that spend money traveling to Neyland. When that drops to 70 percent the money folks will act. Have a good day.

volnvette03 writes:

in response to FWBVol:

Did you ever stop to consider that the success La. Tech is having is because of the foundation Derek Dooley built with that program? Go to the La. Tech web site and count the number of redshirt juniors, seniors and redshirt seniors on that team -- players recruited and signed by Derek Dooley -- and you will see there are more than 40 upper classman on that team left from Derek Dooley's time.

Now go back to 2008 and 2009 -- Fulmer's last year and Kiffin's only year and count the number of players are left from those two squads and you will find Tennessee has 15 players on ther roster that are redshirt juniors, seniors or redshirt seniors. That's a big gap in leadership.

Urban Meyer at Ohio State walked into a team loaded with talent. The same is true of Muschamp at Florida.

When you talk about recruiting you leave out the fact that there is probably more potential SEC players playing high school ball in the Orlando area than there are in the state of Tennessee.

I don't like losing any more than the next guy, but I understand what kind of shape the Tennessee program was in when Dooley took the job that nobody seemed to want at the time. You point out what Muschamp has done at Florida, but you seem to forget that he was one of the coaches that was said to have turned the Vols down before Dooley took the job.

Can I say beyond a reasonable doubt that Derek Dooley will be the guy that leads us back to prominence? No, but I see good things happening within the program. This is year three of a very difficult rebuilding process and we are getting better. Unless there is a complet meltdown in the next seven weeks, IMO, Derek Dooley deserves a year four.

If we win Saturday then an 8-4 regular season is a real probability and a 9-3 season is a possibility. This team has been down so long that there are no longer any players on the roster that know or understand what it's like to win a big game in the Southeastern Conference. Once we get that first meaningful win against a ranked team I believe the team will take off.

Does that mean we will beat Alabama? Probably not. Does it mean we will beat South Carolina? Maybe.

But even a 7-5 season is a step forward, not as big as I'd like, but it's still moving forward and that is something we can build on.

As for the recruiting rankings, the Kansas State team you mentioned never cracks the top five or 10 in recruiting rankings and Virginia Tech is another team that constantly turns out 10-win seasons without having highly touted recruiting classes.

As I said, I believe Derek Dooley can get the job done, but I'm not certain that he can. But we need to give him at least one more year before we go changing coaching staffs again because that's just what will happen if you fire Dooley.

Well said! Most of the bashers were just praising anything that is Vol Football right after we were 2-0. Now we lose to 2 top 10 programs, (no excuse, but we beat ourselves just as much as the competition did), and all bashing breaks out. At the Georgia game I saw much improvement. Let's just see where we stand after Thanksgiving!! Go Vols!

volnvette03 writes:

in response to powerTbaby:

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Let me ask you this Rod, does VaTech, KSU, and OSU play SEC competion week in and week out? FL, GA, MSU, AL, SC just about all in a row? Compare SOS when it is all said and done.

OrangePsyched writes:

Hope you get well soon CDD. You will have a good view of our big victory over the dawgs setting the tone for a great finish this year. Yes CDD will be here this time next you and some of you will be gnashing you teeth and the rest of us will still be supporting the program.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

in response to jobrando#216494:

but the truth hurts folks like you that think they have some impact mouthing on this site.. I accept the fact that I dont. Once again those folks that are important are those that spend money traveling to Neyland. When that drops to 70 percent the money folks will act. Have a good day.

like me????? lmao I attend this great site in order to pontificate. I couldn't care less about what any troll really thinks. It's an outlet for my disturbed soul. No really.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

in response to OrangePsyched:

Hope you get well soon CDD. You will have a good view of our big victory over the dawgs setting the tone for a great finish this year. Yes CDD will be here this time next you and some of you will be gnashing you teeth and the rest of us will still be supporting the program.

quit talking to yourself...lol and hehe.
It's funny any time I see a new name I suspect KNS responding to their own post or posters.
this does NOT mean that you aren't a real fan however and I applaud what you said regardless of the new handle suddenly appearing.

jobrando#216494 writes:

in response to collegegrovebilly:

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If State is not a W this site will just dry up and go away. I've been on here many years and I see much attrition from folks giving up. This Saturday is the biggest game for the ailing coach he will ever face in the SEC. I like the man but it's show time.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

in response to mocsandvolsfan:

quit talking to yourself...lol and hehe.
It's funny any time I see a new name I suspect KNS responding to their own post or posters.
this does NOT mean that you aren't a real fan however and I applaud what you said regardless of the new handle suddenly appearing.

Uhhh redfaced and embarrassed. You have posted quite a few positive posts and are definitly not a troll from what I can tell. It IS fun though to try and spot the "kns plants". Maybe I responded to the wrong guy.

tnoutlaw2001#228008 writes:

I'm praying Chaney excuses himself for a hotdog, Dooley locks door behind him and maybe Vols find a running game with consistency.

Olddogsrule writes:

You'll hav to admit it, and you gotta hand it to the Dooley Haters on here. There's no end to the flimsey concoction of easily refutable "reasons" they can come up with to back their false claim that Coach Dooley's contract should be boutght out. He "can't coach", "the DC's a career clipboard holder" " look at other coaches (many in conferences not nearly as strong as the SEC I might add), on and on they rave. "They are tired of losing", "We should get a top rated coach in here, this is Tennessee!"
No one could possibly say Steve Spurrier isn't one of the top five recognizable and successful coaches in NCAA football. Go
check the ol ball coaches record at SC. Spurrier is in his eigth year at S.C. after taking over from another famous name, Lou Holtz in 2005. Spurrier's record at S.C.
2005: 5-3
2006: 8-5
2007: 6-6
2008: 7-6
2009: 7-6
2010: 9-5
2011: 11-2
Out of Spurrier's first FIVE YEARS at S.C. he only had ONE 8 win season. His third year he only went 6-6. Not until his sixth year did he win SEC East.
Point is famous coach took over from famous coach. Program WAS NOT destroyed when he got there and it took him SIX YEARS to get to a 9 win season. Like other reasonable REAL FANS OF THE PLAYERS, and not so-called fans who very words show they think they are the ones who "deserve" wins, they are the only ones who understand the W-L record, and others are only Doolaide drinkers, I see them as just another bunch of self centered redneck crackers lacking mental capacity to hold Dooley's clipboard, taking every chance they get to try to blow their ignorant, bitter, losers smoke up anyone who reads their posts.

Keep my jug of Doolaide handy at all times.
GO VOLS! GO DOOLEY! GO SEC!
Smokey Rules!

Get well soon coach.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

in response to jobrando#216494:

If State is not a W this site will just dry up and go away. I've been on here many years and I see much attrition from folks giving up. This Saturday is the biggest game for the ailing coach he will ever face in the SEC. I like the man but it's show time.

They've "given up" maybe, because of the negativity on this site. That's why we see soooo many new names and such.
The real posters don't want to have to fight for this sight with people who are for the other teams. I don't blame them. I like reading most of the articles and giving my "2 cents" worth. But really you have to admit it's hard to find any real football talk. I know I don't post a lot about the actual play. The really good armchair QBs are rare now. They're not here to argue but to make their points about what they're thinking and want intelligent conversation and not bashing, attacks, and verbal abuse. By the name attached to the site you'd think it was a UT sports blog and not a gossip column.just sayin'

BeRealistic writes:

in response to jobrando#216494:

If State is not a W this site will just dry up and go away. I've been on here many years and I see much attrition from folks giving up. This Saturday is the biggest game for the ailing coach he will ever face in the SEC. I like the man but it's show time.

Agree. 2 weeks to improve 3-4 defense.

tnoutlaw2001#228008 writes:

in response to Olddogsrule:

You'll hav to admit it, and you gotta hand it to the Dooley Haters on here. There's no end to the flimsey concoction of easily refutable "reasons" they can come up with to back their false claim that Coach Dooley's contract should be boutght out. He "can't coach", "the DC's a career clipboard holder" " look at other coaches (many in conferences not nearly as strong as the SEC I might add), on and on they rave. "They are tired of losing", "We should get a top rated coach in here, this is Tennessee!"
No one could possibly say Steve Spurrier isn't one of the top five recognizable and successful coaches in NCAA football. Go
check the ol ball coaches record at SC. Spurrier is in his eigth year at S.C. after taking over from another famous name, Lou Holtz in 2005. Spurrier's record at S.C.
2005: 5-3
2006: 8-5
2007: 6-6
2008: 7-6
2009: 7-6
2010: 9-5
2011: 11-2
Out of Spurrier's first FIVE YEARS at S.C. he only had ONE 8 win season. His third year he only went 6-6. Not until his sixth year did he win SEC East.
Point is famous coach took over from famous coach. Program WAS NOT destroyed when he got there and it took him SIX YEARS to get to a 9 win season. Like other reasonable REAL FANS OF THE PLAYERS, and not so-called fans who very words show they think they are the ones who "deserve" wins, they are the only ones who understand the W-L record, and others are only Doolaide drinkers, I see them as just another bunch of self centered redneck crackers lacking mental capacity to hold Dooley's clipboard, taking every chance they get to try to blow their ignorant, bitter, losers smoke up anyone who reads their posts.

Keep my jug of Doolaide handy at all times.
GO VOLS! GO DOOLEY! GO SEC!
Smokey Rules!

Get well soon coach.

Your analogy if flawed for one reason. If you know or listen to SEC people for the past 20 years South Carolina was so far behind everyone else in facilities and training program, they could never ever recruit with schools like UT.

When Spurrier took over it was one of the biggest issues he confronted, and was able to fix and make better over the past several years.

Dooley did not have that issue, and did not have to build a national program like Spurrier did at South Carolina. If Spurrier had walked into the UT job there never would have been a drop off. Maybe a down year or two but nothing like we have seen since Fulmers departure, and before everyone jumps on the Fulmer is awesome bandwagon, he was accused and blamed for the program taking a few stepS back his last few years as HC at UT. You can also look at his last 3 or 4 recruiting classes, they were way down compared to his earlier ones.

vols22 writes:

in response to FWBVol:

Did you ever stop to consider that the success La. Tech is having is because of the foundation Derek Dooley built with that program? Go to the La. Tech web site and count the number of redshirt juniors, seniors and redshirt seniors on that team -- players recruited and signed by Derek Dooley -- and you will see there are more than 40 upper classman on that team left from Derek Dooley's time.

Now go back to 2008 and 2009 -- Fulmer's last year and Kiffin's only year and count the number of players are left from those two squads and you will find Tennessee has 15 players on ther roster that are redshirt juniors, seniors or redshirt seniors. That's a big gap in leadership.

Urban Meyer at Ohio State walked into a team loaded with talent. The same is true of Muschamp at Florida.

When you talk about recruiting you leave out the fact that there is probably more potential SEC players playing high school ball in the Orlando area than there are in the state of Tennessee.

I don't like losing any more than the next guy, but I understand what kind of shape the Tennessee program was in when Dooley took the job that nobody seemed to want at the time. You point out what Muschamp has done at Florida, but you seem to forget that he was one of the coaches that was said to have turned the Vols down before Dooley took the job.

Can I say beyond a reasonable doubt that Derek Dooley will be the guy that leads us back to prominence? No, but I see good things happening within the program. This is year three of a very difficult rebuilding process and we are getting better. Unless there is a complet meltdown in the next seven weeks, IMO, Derek Dooley deserves a year four.

If we win Saturday then an 8-4 regular season is a real probability and a 9-3 season is a possibility. This team has been down so long that there are no longer any players on the roster that know or understand what it's like to win a big game in the Southeastern Conference. Once we get that first meaningful win against a ranked team I believe the team will take off.

Does that mean we will beat Alabama? Probably not. Does it mean we will beat South Carolina? Maybe.

But even a 7-5 season is a step forward, not as big as I'd like, but it's still moving forward and that is something we can build on.

As for the recruiting rankings, the Kansas State team you mentioned never cracks the top five or 10 in recruiting rankings and Virginia Tech is another team that constantly turns out 10-win seasons without having highly touted recruiting classes.

As I said, I believe Derek Dooley can get the job done, but I'm not certain that he can. But we need to give him at least one more year before we go changing coaching staffs again because that's just what will happen if you fire Dooley.

Good post. What people seem to forget are all the players that left when Kiffin came in. If I remember correctly, it was 16. And when DD came in, 14 left. And that isn't even counting players that graduated. This is the first year DD has had a full or close to a full roster. And it's hard to compete in any league, much less the SEC, with a depleted roster.

And there has been improvement. They had Florida on the ropes. They were way behind in the UGA game and came back with a chance to win. Yes, there have been breakdowns, but that is expected with a first year defense. And at times in the UGA game, the defense looked good. So maybe as the year goes on, they will get everything together!

mocsandvolsfan writes:

in response to tnoutlaw2001#228008:

I'm praying Chaney excuses himself for a hotdog, Dooley locks door behind him and maybe Vols find a running game with consistency.

Our running game has been pretty good.

These types of slanderous posts have been coming since DAY 1 of Dooley's "reign of terror". You never wanted him to succeed and still don't and you still claim to be a fan of UT?
It's plain in your 208 all negative posts.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

in response to tnoutlaw2001#228008:

Your analogy if flawed for one reason. If you know or listen to SEC people for the past 20 years South Carolina was so far behind everyone else in facilities and training program, they could never ever recruit with schools like UT.

When Spurrier took over it was one of the biggest issues he confronted, and was able to fix and make better over the past several years.

Dooley did not have that issue, and did not have to build a national program like Spurrier did at South Carolina. If Spurrier had walked into the UT job there never would have been a drop off. Maybe a down year or two but nothing like we have seen since Fulmers departure, and before everyone jumps on the Fulmer is awesome bandwagon, he was accused and blamed for the program taking a few stepS back his last few years as HC at UT. You can also look at his last 3 or 4 recruiting classes, they were way down compared to his earlier ones.

You actually admitted to your own flawed thinking. "maybe a down year or two??" Make up your mind. How long do you think Dooley's been here? We're going on 3 years and things ARE improving for anyone who looks closely. If they actually want to see it.

PHAT_VOL writes:

in response to tnoutlaw2001#228008:

Your analogy if flawed for one reason. If you know or listen to SEC people for the past 20 years South Carolina was so far behind everyone else in facilities and training program, they could never ever recruit with schools like UT.

When Spurrier took over it was one of the biggest issues he confronted, and was able to fix and make better over the past several years.

Dooley did not have that issue, and did not have to build a national program like Spurrier did at South Carolina. If Spurrier had walked into the UT job there never would have been a drop off. Maybe a down year or two but nothing like we have seen since Fulmers departure, and before everyone jumps on the Fulmer is awesome bandwagon, he was accused and blamed for the program taking a few stepS back his last few years as HC at UT. You can also look at his last 3 or 4 recruiting classes, they were way down compared to his earlier ones.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Every point is either false or just down right stupid.
In fact to ignorant to discuss.
GO VOLS!!!

crappieking writes:

Won't matter. A terrible hire/coach is all the same, be it on the sidelines or in the booth. Like I said, 0-4 the next four games. Pitiful state of affiars our once proud team is in.

DwayneElizondoMountainDewHerbertCamacho writes:

in response to powerTbaby:

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I can't like this comment enough. Demanding results in the face of a never ending stream of "it takes 8 years" or "Kiffin destroyed the program" or "why don't you coach the Vols if you could do better" is exhausting. Look at Auburn with Chizik. The guy had a Dooley-esque record and Auburn fans rightly hated the hire. Chizik got smart and hired a great O-coordinator and then bought Cam Newton (dog it all you want, but that was a great investment). Now he's back to being Chizik. Why doesn't Saban's production fall off when he loses players or coaches? Because Saban is the quality hire. Not his assistants.

Still, I fear that UT will continue to follow Dooley down the yellow-brick road to mediocrity past this season. He'll lose to Mississippi State and the Dool-aide drinkers will come back out in force saying: "I knew that would happen." We'll lose Bray, Hunter, and Patterson to the draft and the Dool-aide drinkers will say, "They weren't that good anyway."

It's a sad state of affairs for UT football. It's a Nick Saban era and UT is still playing football with a Johnny Majors mindset.

GerryOP writes:

in response to orangecountyvols:

Vols,

Are the trolls and naysayers quite finished?
Any other topics for them?

Sort of a downer being away from this site for a while and coming back what do you see?
Same old whiners and a smattering of trolls such as Volszfan, the Brass *** Monkey etc.

We'll be okay with the situation we have for Saturday night. Regardless, you'll hear from the trolls one way or the other.

NavalOranges........don't let the trolls run you off. You're better by far than those idiots.

With a lot of these guys, it just goes to prove that Chris Fowler was right.

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