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DeltaCharlie3 writes:

I feel like Dooley and Sunseri need contract extensions.

mountainbrook writes:

in response to DeltaCharlie3:

I feel like Dooley and Sunseri need contract extensions.

Will you feel the same when Florida loses to LSU, Georgia, South Carolina and Florida State?

rtrchatt writes:

I am soooooo looking forward to Oct 20. Can we get Nick Saban as the next Ryder Cup Captain?
May never watch golf again.....

thevoice writes:

Last Saturday = lateral move

TitanBlueGoVols writes:

in response to DeltaCharlie3:

I feel like Dooley and Sunseri need contract extensions.

Sarcastic yet funny.This team is is the worst tackling Vol team I think I have ever seen.They win 3 maybe 4 more games play NC State in the Music City bowl at 7-6 and get beat.

laraccoon writes:

better then last year , barring a total collapse next year should be much better . lets see how the year pans out i thought they showed some moxy last evening . GBO

CCLC writes:

Georgia and Tennessee each had brain farts and poor technique. UT surprised Coach Grantham with their ability to run up the middle. Bobo went conservative when Georgia buried themselves on their side of the field and Sal took advantage bring the house. Bobo didn't adjust very well. In the end (last 3 UT possessions) Bray lost some of that composure he held so well during the game. Indeed I thought he got stronger as the game progressed. Finally the corner blitzing off the edge got him rattled. "I think people are more impressed with Tyler Bray’s arm than with Tyler Bray, the quarterback. He loves the deep ball and you can count on him throwing a few balls every game that make you go wow, but he deserves his reputation for not handling pressure well. Three straight series with Bray turnovers to end the game testifies to that."
just sayin'

pcorange writes:

1. Running game is improved.
2. Defense is terrible, top to bottom. I can't think of a single facet of our defense that I would call good right now.
3. Found a way to lose, again.
4. Still haven't beaten a top 25 team.
5. Our fans sound like Vandy fans with our "ifs", "couldas" and "shouldas".
6. I like Coach Dooley, but another L puts him a step closer to the door. He needs to beat State and Carolina and play Bama respectably to quiet us naysayers.

tovolny writes:

What do I think?...Well, the defense pretty much sucks. The defensive backs are too slow. The safeties don't understand their position. The LB's are the bright spot,and that's good. Talent wise, the D line isn't bad...they are just not used properly. Dooley needs to stay away from the defense and let Sunseri work the calls during the game. Smith and Maggitt need to be used like Dwight Freeny twins. The fastest freshman guys need to be promoted to first team. Moore takes plays off and Brewer needs to watch a lot more film.

Thanks for asking.

Vols_fan_27 writes:

The running game was positive. The issue on defense is just the simple fact that we don't have quick enough athletes to keep up with the athletes of top SEC schools. That being said, we still proved from an offensive standpoint, we can score points with the best of them. That can be inticing to future defensive recruits, knowing that they can be the key to help this team succeed...GBO!

pcorange writes:

in response to mountainbrook:

Will you feel the same when Florida loses to LSU, Georgia, South Carolina and Florida State?

Sure he will. It'll guarantee them at least one SEC win every year.

orangecountyvols writes:

in response to Vols_fan_27:

The running game was positive. The issue on defense is just the simple fact that we don't have quick enough athletes to keep up with the athletes of top SEC schools. That being said, we still proved from an offensive standpoint, we can score points with the best of them. That can be inticing to future defensive recruits, knowing that they can be the key to help this team succeed...GBO!

Fan 27,

It took all the way down to your post to find anything other than the same old from the same old nega-Vols plus one from the dark side on our site.

The opposition game plans attack us on the edge and we know how the place kicking is performing. As for Tyler's fumble, when he extends the ball in front of him and reaches forward it is going to wind up on the ground.
2nd key game this has happened.

All in all, take away the home runs the Vols gave up ( again ) and it's a different story.

DeltaCharlie3 writes:

in response to mountainbrook:

Will you feel the same when Florida loses to LSU, Georgia, South Carolina and Florida State?

Your list is down to four, I see. When the season started you had Tex AM and UT on that list. Doh!

Vols_fan_27 writes:

in response to orangecountyvols:

Fan 27,

It took all the way down to your post to find anything other than the same old from the same old nega-Vols plus one from the dark side on our site.

The opposition game plans attack us on the edge and we know how the place kicking is performing. As for Tyler's fumble, when he extends the ball in front of him and reaches forward it is going to wind up on the ground.
2nd key game this has happened.

All in all, take away the home runs the Vols gave up ( again ) and it's a different story.

We have to find a way to stop the big plays. second game that it has killed us. If some way they can eliminate it, I think we have a shot against anyone we play (with maybe exception of BAMA)... along with that, when the D does finally get important stops, as was the case late in the game Saturday, the offense has to find a way to capitalize...GBO!

powert#205805 writes:

No wonder my friends at UA were laughing their butts off that Dooley was stupid enough to take Sal off their hands.

Both need to go, replaced by a someone who will bring some toughness to the program.

firemancooper writes:

SPOILER ALERT! I don't drink Dool-Aid

I think it is a shame. Has the Vol Nation accepted mediocrity and moral victories? Louisiana Tech did not:

Since Derek Dooley LEFT La Tech:
2012-Louisiana Tech is 4-0
2011-Louisiana Tech was 8-4-WAC Champion
2010-Louisiana Tech was 5-7

Seems like a nice progressive improvement? All under Sonny Dykes,

With Derek Dooley at Louisiana Tech???

2009 Louisiana Tech was 4-8
2008 Louisiana Tech was 8-5 Won Independence Bowl
2007 Louisiana Tech was 5-7

Did La Tech get worse under Dooley?

2012- Tennessee is 3-2 (0-2 SEC)
2011- Tennessee was 5-7 (1-7 SEC)
2010- Tennessee was 6-7 (3-5 SEC) Lost Music City Bowl

Has Tennessee shown any improvement? Almost won tonight? How do those "almost" wins help in the SEC Championship race?

Derek Dooley is 0-12 vs nationally top 25 ranked teams.
Derek Dooley led Tennessee Volunteers vs SEC Rivals:

Florida (0-3)
Georgia(0-3)
Alabama(0-2)
South Carolina (0-2)
Vanderbilt (2-0)
Kentucky (1-1)
Ole Miss (1-0)
LSU (0-2)
Arkansas (0-1)

Dooley's SEC record is 4-14
Dooley's Bowl record is 0-1

But hey, he's a nice guy that wears orange pants!

West10Vol writes:

I've been a Dooley supporter since Day1. I bought into the story that our roster was thin & inexperienced, but now that story is stale. Besides loosing the game , one of the most disappointing things was the halftime adjustments. We made none and UGA capitalized, and then on the 2-point conversion we failed to have enough defenders on the field. Didn't we learn to count to eleven two years ago! Or do have to learn that again since Wilcox is gone?

Vols_fan_27 writes:

in response to firemancooper:

SPOILER ALERT! I don't drink Dool-Aid

I think it is a shame. Has the Vol Nation accepted mediocrity and moral victories? Louisiana Tech did not:

Since Derek Dooley LEFT La Tech:
2012-Louisiana Tech is 4-0
2011-Louisiana Tech was 8-4-WAC Champion
2010-Louisiana Tech was 5-7

Seems like a nice progressive improvement? All under Sonny Dykes,

With Derek Dooley at Louisiana Tech???

2009 Louisiana Tech was 4-8
2008 Louisiana Tech was 8-5 Won Independence Bowl
2007 Louisiana Tech was 5-7

Did La Tech get worse under Dooley?

2012- Tennessee is 3-2 (0-2 SEC)
2011- Tennessee was 5-7 (1-7 SEC)
2010- Tennessee was 6-7 (3-5 SEC) Lost Music City Bowl

Has Tennessee shown any improvement? Almost won tonight? How do those "almost" wins help in the SEC Championship race?

Derek Dooley is 0-12 vs nationally top 25 ranked teams.
Derek Dooley led Tennessee Volunteers vs SEC Rivals:

Florida (0-3)
Georgia(0-3)
Alabama(0-2)
South Carolina (0-2)
Vanderbilt (2-0)
Kentucky (1-1)
Ole Miss (1-0)
LSU (0-2)
Arkansas (0-1)

Dooley's SEC record is 4-14
Dooley's Bowl record is 0-1

But hey, he's a nice guy that wears orange pants!

I agree with all of your points and in no way am I saying that I am sold on Dooley as our head coach. What I will say however is that if the powers that be decide to get rid of him at the end of this season, we as Vol fans better hope that they hire someone with the clout (and just throwing this name out there, not that he is interested) of a Gruden name so that recruiting doesn't take a hit. If Dooley is fired at the end of this season and another "up and coming" coach is hired, then we are set back another 4 years...and are in no better shape next year than this year...love our VOLS, but I'm just sayin'...GBO!

volsgirl writes:

in response to DeltaCharlie3:

I feel like Dooley and Sunseri need contract extensions.

Agree, DD will bring this program back.

TitanBlueGoVols writes:

in response to firemancooper:

SPOILER ALERT! I don't drink Dool-Aid

I think it is a shame. Has the Vol Nation accepted mediocrity and moral victories? Louisiana Tech did not:

Since Derek Dooley LEFT La Tech:
2012-Louisiana Tech is 4-0
2011-Louisiana Tech was 8-4-WAC Champion
2010-Louisiana Tech was 5-7

Seems like a nice progressive improvement? All under Sonny Dykes,

With Derek Dooley at Louisiana Tech???

2009 Louisiana Tech was 4-8
2008 Louisiana Tech was 8-5 Won Independence Bowl
2007 Louisiana Tech was 5-7

Did La Tech get worse under Dooley?

2012- Tennessee is 3-2 (0-2 SEC)
2011- Tennessee was 5-7 (1-7 SEC)
2010- Tennessee was 6-7 (3-5 SEC) Lost Music City Bowl

Has Tennessee shown any improvement? Almost won tonight? How do those "almost" wins help in the SEC Championship race?

Derek Dooley is 0-12 vs nationally top 25 ranked teams.
Derek Dooley led Tennessee Volunteers vs SEC Rivals:

Florida (0-3)
Georgia(0-3)
Alabama(0-2)
South Carolina (0-2)
Vanderbilt (2-0)
Kentucky (1-1)
Ole Miss (1-0)
LSU (0-2)
Arkansas (0-1)

Dooley's SEC record is 4-14
Dooley's Bowl record is 0-1

But hey, he's a nice guy that wears orange pants!

I love this post. Dooley's resume is awful.You forgot to mention that when he coached under Saban he was a Tight Ends coach.He coached the Tight Ends at LSU SMU and the Dolphins. Really at SMU he wasnt even good enough to coach the Offense or Defense not even the Linebackers or O-line. His record as a head coach was terrible. And it still is. I love the Vols went to Tennessee but I hope will lose every game to force a change.Sorry but Dooley is a lawyer not a football coach.

volsgirl writes:

Becarful what you wish!!!!!!!!!!

FWBVol writes:

in response to firemancooper:

SPOILER ALERT! I don't drink Dool-Aid

I think it is a shame. Has the Vol Nation accepted mediocrity and moral victories? Louisiana Tech did not:

Since Derek Dooley LEFT La Tech:
2012-Louisiana Tech is 4-0
2011-Louisiana Tech was 8-4-WAC Champion
2010-Louisiana Tech was 5-7

Seems like a nice progressive improvement? All under Sonny Dykes,

With Derek Dooley at Louisiana Tech???

2009 Louisiana Tech was 4-8
2008 Louisiana Tech was 8-5 Won Independence Bowl
2007 Louisiana Tech was 5-7

Did La Tech get worse under Dooley?

2012- Tennessee is 3-2 (0-2 SEC)
2011- Tennessee was 5-7 (1-7 SEC)
2010- Tennessee was 6-7 (3-5 SEC) Lost Music City Bowl

Has Tennessee shown any improvement? Almost won tonight? How do those "almost" wins help in the SEC Championship race?

Derek Dooley is 0-12 vs nationally top 25 ranked teams.
Derek Dooley led Tennessee Volunteers vs SEC Rivals:

Florida (0-3)
Georgia(0-3)
Alabama(0-2)
South Carolina (0-2)
Vanderbilt (2-0)
Kentucky (1-1)
Ole Miss (1-0)
LSU (0-2)
Arkansas (0-1)

Dooley's SEC record is 4-14
Dooley's Bowl record is 0-1

But hey, he's a nice guy that wears orange pants!

One thing you left out was that Derek Dooley left La. Tech in good shape with their roster. There are about 40 redshirt juniors, seniors and redshirt seniors on the La. Tech roster that were Dooley recruits.

Dooley's third year at La. Tech the team was hit by an inordinate amount of injuries that did set the program back.

Sonny Dykes walked into a much better situation in an inferior conference than the one Derek Dooley walked into.

We are an improving football team and while I can't be certain that Derek Dooley will get the job done, I believe he can still turn the corner with the program.

Our defense has struggled this year in making the transition to the 3-4, but most teams do struggle when they first move to the 3-4, a defense with different nuances than the 4-3.

I still see 8-4 as a very realistic possibilty as Mississippi State's only win against a winning team came against Troy. Yes, we will have to play a good game, but I think we will be OK.

firemancooper writes:

I'm just writing facts. I think I checked out emotionally during the second half of the Florida game. We ended up with nice seats in D 52 9-10 and my wife and I were amazed how quickly the wind was taken from our sail. We BELIEVED! You guys remember that feeling, Tennessee winning, being competitive versus our SEC rivals????

I remember ESPN "hating" on us.
I remember CBS "wanting" us week in and week out.
I remember the Vol Nation "traveling well" to opposing stadiums and not selling back tickets to the away foe.
I remember seeing the Orange flags with the white T flying all over Chattanooga Friday-Sunday

I will continue to watch the games, but I cannot in good conscience spend $200-$300 a game to feel like I felt vs Florida. Does that make us bad fans? I don't think so, just more careful in a bad economy with our financial choices. And I can't blame Bush, Biden beat me to it

GoVols025 writes:

in response to DeltaCharlie3:

I feel like Dooley and Sunseri need contract extensions.

I totally agree. We can't let this guy get fed up with the lack of fan support and have him quit. No one needs the abuse he takes from so-called-fans and trolls.

GatorHater1998 writes:

Vols 33 miss st 26
Bama 42 Vols 14
Vols 30 south car 27
Vols 49 Troy 17
Vols 42 mizzou 30
Vols 35 Vandy 20
Vols 45 KY 13

I think our 1st big upset comes against south carolina.

pcorange writes:

in response to firemancooper:

SPOILER ALERT! I don't drink Dool-Aid

I think it is a shame. Has the Vol Nation accepted mediocrity and moral victories? Louisiana Tech did not:

Since Derek Dooley LEFT La Tech:
2012-Louisiana Tech is 4-0
2011-Louisiana Tech was 8-4-WAC Champion
2010-Louisiana Tech was 5-7

Seems like a nice progressive improvement? All under Sonny Dykes,

With Derek Dooley at Louisiana Tech???

2009 Louisiana Tech was 4-8
2008 Louisiana Tech was 8-5 Won Independence Bowl
2007 Louisiana Tech was 5-7

Did La Tech get worse under Dooley?

2012- Tennessee is 3-2 (0-2 SEC)
2011- Tennessee was 5-7 (1-7 SEC)
2010- Tennessee was 6-7 (3-5 SEC) Lost Music City Bowl

Has Tennessee shown any improvement? Almost won tonight? How do those "almost" wins help in the SEC Championship race?

Derek Dooley is 0-12 vs nationally top 25 ranked teams.
Derek Dooley led Tennessee Volunteers vs SEC Rivals:

Florida (0-3)
Georgia(0-3)
Alabama(0-2)
South Carolina (0-2)
Vanderbilt (2-0)
Kentucky (1-1)
Ole Miss (1-0)
LSU (0-2)
Arkansas (0-1)

Dooley's SEC record is 4-14
Dooley's Bowl record is 0-1

But hey, he's a nice guy that wears orange pants!

Thank you for laying the facts out in front of everyone. I think our fans have been so blinded by a great guy that talks a good game that they are forgetting that we are as bad as Kentucky and Vanderbilt. We are the laughing stock of the SEC and the nation. We are good only for the ESPN highlight reel. Dave Hart more or less said after the loss to Kentucky last year (with a WR playing QB) that there are no more excuses. We are not a young team lacking depth anymore. It is time to get it done. I think Hart is well aware that Dooley is in over his head and gave him this year just to make sure. If he doesn't surprise us all with some big wins this year, he's as good as gone. We can't afford not to make a change. Filling Neyland will pay for the buyout.

GoVols025 writes:

in response to MOUNTAINofOKEMO:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

The only Okemo I'm familiar with is Okemo Mountain Resort in Vermont. A nice little family ski area where yankees go and claim they are skiing a "big" mountain. Really, dude, a "big" mountain is Aspen or Whiteface. Whatever, been to Okemo Mountain a few times and never heard Okemo speak.

Other than that O-kem-o, I tend to agree with you. Our Vols are back and the rest of our football season belongs to our Vols. This could be the start of something great -- if we could just get rid of the Dooley-haters and trolls.

TitanBlueGoVols writes:

in response to GoVols025:

I totally agree. We can't let this guy get fed up with the lack of fan support and have him quit. No one needs the abuse he takes from so-called-fans and trolls.

Fan Support? Ticket sales have dropped every year since he took over. You better believe the lack of fan support has something to do with this.That football team provides millions of dollars to help support other athletics like the girls Bocce Ball team that has no money to support itself.Like it or not this is Big Business and if the team dosent win the school loses money. So He better pay attention to lack of fan support because his job security is based on it.

Vols_fan_27 writes:

in response to GatorHater1998:

Vols 33 miss st 26
Bama 42 Vols 14
Vols 30 south car 27
Vols 49 Troy 17
Vols 42 mizzou 30
Vols 35 Vandy 20
Vols 45 KY 13

I think our 1st big upset comes against south carolina.

Let's be honest... any win in the next 3 games will be our first big upset...GBO!

GatorHater1998 writes:

in response to Vols_fan_27:

Let's be honest... any win in the next 3 games will be our first big upset...GBO!

if you look at who miss st has played i wouldn't see as a big upset, i think we'll be 6 pt underdogs

TheHobnailBoot writes:

Dare you ask that question? Seeing that every Tennessee Fan was let down and hopes were crushed after the Florida loss .. whos to say we were actually expecting to win hell I was surprised we did as good as we did ! The Defense didnt give up although they were on the field quite a bit seeing our wonderful coach Chaney's offensive playbook that causes 4 and outs .. How I feel is that ( DEEP BREATH) We dont beat Florida because he was friends with Muschump and we dont beat Georgia cause dear ol daddy coached there we dont beat Alabubba cause Saban and him coached together mentor whatever we didnt beat ( got screwed ) against LSU last year and notice something ? him and miles have history together we dont beat any of his buddies that he has relations to SEEMS KINDA WEIRD EH? Bray didnt throw a single ball out of bounds or on the ground the first 2 games as soon as we hit Florida looks like a totally diffrent QB and looks like he was paid off .. Danielson and Lundquist ( god help us all ) seem too know every play we do kinda wonder if they werent playing D cordinator for UGA and football this year seems a little played out to me watch the details Ive explained if you dont believe me and you will start to notice that Ive got a valid point for saying this . Pig Howard doesnt need to be a WR OR QB make him a DB like they did Teague . Everyone brags on Maggit I havent seen not one impressive skill from him if you ask me Propst is 100x better he knows the game hes smart his dad from what i hear is a was a coach . FOR GODS SAKE Dallas Thomas how hard is it not to move !!! As for RB wheres Tom Smith!? Wheres Watson!? there way better than Neal will ever be . The Wildcat package seems to me that it works really well and Johnson looks very confident and strong in the package not many ppl expect it from Tennessee cause were such an old fashioned football team and dont do too many trick plays or options but when we do it works that should tell you something. Johnson was a QB in high school throw the ball out of the Wildcat to Bray they were playing 15 yards off him and he can run he used to play RB in middle school lower ur head and go ! I watch alot of High school ball in Tennessee all of them have really good kickers and yet we cannot get a punter that can outkick me and cant get a field goal kicker that can hit the broadside of a barn . The best scenario that can happen is give Dooley a chance in finishing out the year and go from there on his results , Sal Sunseri is a great D cordinator and it takes 2 years for players to learn a new Defense thats why our players seem a little off sometimes , No excuse for Chaney fire him . Patterson needs a machine to throw footballs at him about 6 hours a day so he will stop dropping game changers right in his hands makes me realize why he was a JUCO ... I hope the best for the Vols but they have some problems that need addressing and are very fixable just have to do it . GBO !

Vols_fan_27 writes:

in response to GatorHater1998:

if you look at who miss st has played i wouldn't see as a big upset, i think we'll be 6 pt underdogs

I agree that Miss St hasn't played a tough schedule but to knock off a top 25 school will be big for us in many ways... Especially playing on the road.

GoVols025 writes:

in response to firemancooper:

SPOILER ALERT! I don't drink Dool-Aid

I think it is a shame. Has the Vol Nation accepted mediocrity and moral victories? Louisiana Tech did not:

Since Derek Dooley LEFT La Tech:
2012-Louisiana Tech is 4-0
2011-Louisiana Tech was 8-4-WAC Champion
2010-Louisiana Tech was 5-7

Seems like a nice progressive improvement? All under Sonny Dykes,

With Derek Dooley at Louisiana Tech???

2009 Louisiana Tech was 4-8
2008 Louisiana Tech was 8-5 Won Independence Bowl
2007 Louisiana Tech was 5-7

Did La Tech get worse under Dooley?

2012- Tennessee is 3-2 (0-2 SEC)
2011- Tennessee was 5-7 (1-7 SEC)
2010- Tennessee was 6-7 (3-5 SEC) Lost Music City Bowl

Has Tennessee shown any improvement? Almost won tonight? How do those "almost" wins help in the SEC Championship race?

Derek Dooley is 0-12 vs nationally top 25 ranked teams.
Derek Dooley led Tennessee Volunteers vs SEC Rivals:

Florida (0-3)
Georgia(0-3)
Alabama(0-2)
South Carolina (0-2)
Vanderbilt (2-0)
Kentucky (1-1)
Ole Miss (1-0)
LSU (0-2)
Arkansas (0-1)

Dooley's SEC record is 4-14
Dooley's Bowl record is 0-1

But hey, he's a nice guy that wears orange pants!

Not sure what all of your numbers and gibberish prove, but it is danged clear that you are not aware of reality.

Starting at the top, NO ONE in the Vol nation is "accepting" mediocrity ... NO ONE. Likewise, it was you Dooley-haters that coined the phrase "moral victory" to describe what happened on Saturday. To go along with these facts, it is your ignorant unwillingness to accept reality that is causing you anger.

Derek Dooley was hired to clean up the mess left by Fulmer and Kiffin. When Dooley was hired, he never guaranteed instant "WINS." What he did guarantee is that he would rebuild the noble Tennessee football program into a program that we would be proud of. The national media agreed that Dooley was the right man for the job. The national media agreed that it was a 5-6 year project ... but Dooley could do it. They also stated that the rabid Vol fans would not have the patience to let Dooley do the job he was hired to do. All you do by rolling out junk like you posted above is to prove that the national media was right ... as far as describing our fans.

BTW, if you're so freakin' smart about evaluating college football programs and whether or not coaches are succeeding, what in the hell are you doing on here? As brilliant as you claim to be, I would think that a whole bunch of college programs would be lined up outside your door ready to pay big bucks for your advice. Make sure you leave the light on ... but don't hold your breath waiting for people gathering at your door seeking your advice.

UTistheOLEMISSoftheEAST writes:

in response to MOUNTAINofOKEMO:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

A good off week?

Really?

Let me be the first to congratulate you on a "good off week".

Think before you speak. It saves the embarrassment.

GoVols025 writes:

in response to firemancooper:

SPOILER ALERT! I don't drink Dool-Aid

I think it is a shame. Has the Vol Nation accepted mediocrity and moral victories? Louisiana Tech did not:

Since Derek Dooley LEFT La Tech:
2012-Louisiana Tech is 4-0
2011-Louisiana Tech was 8-4-WAC Champion
2010-Louisiana Tech was 5-7

Seems like a nice progressive improvement? All under Sonny Dykes,

With Derek Dooley at Louisiana Tech???

2009 Louisiana Tech was 4-8
2008 Louisiana Tech was 8-5 Won Independence Bowl
2007 Louisiana Tech was 5-7

Did La Tech get worse under Dooley?

2012- Tennessee is 3-2 (0-2 SEC)
2011- Tennessee was 5-7 (1-7 SEC)
2010- Tennessee was 6-7 (3-5 SEC) Lost Music City Bowl

Has Tennessee shown any improvement? Almost won tonight? How do those "almost" wins help in the SEC Championship race?

Derek Dooley is 0-12 vs nationally top 25 ranked teams.
Derek Dooley led Tennessee Volunteers vs SEC Rivals:

Florida (0-3)
Georgia(0-3)
Alabama(0-2)
South Carolina (0-2)
Vanderbilt (2-0)
Kentucky (1-1)
Ole Miss (1-0)
LSU (0-2)
Arkansas (0-1)

Dooley's SEC record is 4-14
Dooley's Bowl record is 0-1

But hey, he's a nice guy that wears orange pants!

BTW, here are more words and advice from our good buddy "firemancooper." Here he is again sharing his brilliant analysis of what plagues Tennessee football. This post, one of 8 in four years, shares more of his infinite wisdom. This one was on September 13, 2009:

"I can tell you now, I will not pay $60 or $70 for tickets again until Crompton is benched. I cannot believe tickets are this high now?!?!! I can get Falcons-Miami tickets for $55 and drink adult beverages. Are we trying to pay off Fulmer out of the pocketbooks of the fans ticket prices? Way to go UT raise the ticket prices in a recession.

And Crompton. Wow. I would be truly amused if he goes to any NFL combines seriously considering to be looked at. I have decided to start calling all turnovers "Cromptons." I will be suprised if we do not see UT throw 4 or 5 Cromptons against UF.

And BJ Coleman and the Chattanooga Mocs lost to Furman. Coleman had decent stats but he did throw a Crompton
.."

Hey, surely firemancooper is someone's hero.

gwavescVOL writes:

in response to Vols_fan_27:

I agree with all of your points and in no way am I saying that I am sold on Dooley as our head coach. What I will say however is that if the powers that be decide to get rid of him at the end of this season, we as Vol fans better hope that they hire someone with the clout (and just throwing this name out there, not that he is interested) of a Gruden name so that recruiting doesn't take a hit. If Dooley is fired at the end of this season and another "up and coming" coach is hired, then we are set back another 4 years...and are in no better shape next year than this year...love our VOLS, but I'm just sayin'...GBO!

You guys have really got to stop with the Gruden phooey, its delusional to think he could do anything for anyone! He has not been on a college football sideline since 1991, or any sideline since 2008. He will come in with NO recruiting connections or cred, not to mention he's never proven he could really coach, winning his only super bowl with another coach's team, that there after declined until his departure!!! STOP with Gruden already its so far off base you lose credibility just by mentioning his name. If your going to call to replace Dooley at least have the sense to throw a name out that makes a little bit of sense, at least for the sake of saving some face for yourself. ITS RIDICULOUS

GoVols025 writes:

in response to collegegrovebilly:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

Was I talking to you billy-boy? No, I don't think I was ... but you sound like you're as ignorant as our new good buddy "firemancooper." Or are you one of those troll-punks that hangs around here responding to random posts hoping to get some attention? If so, you got your attention, now go crawl back into your crib.

GoVols025 writes:

in response to TitanBlueGoVols:

Fan Support? Ticket sales have dropped every year since he took over. You better believe the lack of fan support has something to do with this.That football team provides millions of dollars to help support other athletics like the girls Bocce Ball team that has no money to support itself.Like it or not this is Big Business and if the team dosent win the school loses money. So He better pay attention to lack of fan support because his job security is based on it.

"Ticket sales have dropped every year since he took over?" Gee willikers Mr. Einstein, ticket sales for everything have dropped off everywhere in the past few years. To quote a former President, "It's the economy stupid!"

Now get back to bed! Did you finish studying your words? You have a spelling test tomorrow!

gwavescVOL writes:

in response to GoVols025:

Was I talking to you billy-boy? No, I don't think I was ... but you sound like you're as ignorant as our new good buddy "firemancooper." Or are you one of those troll-punks that hangs around here responding to random posts hoping to get some attention? If so, you got your attention, now go crawl back into your crib.

IMO "collegegrovebilly" exposes his fragile psyche in his choice of name alone, a desperate attempt to in some way be associated with college. Thanks for your insightful posts, each one just makes you appear smaller and smaller. Maybe Mom will buy you a big truck to offset your little life, she may make you take your name off the orange juice first though. Thanks for participating

TitanBlueGoVols writes:

in response to GoVols025:

Not sure what all of your numbers and gibberish prove, but it is danged clear that you are not aware of reality.

Starting at the top, NO ONE in the Vol nation is "accepting" mediocrity ... NO ONE. Likewise, it was you Dooley-haters that coined the phrase "moral victory" to describe what happened on Saturday. To go along with these facts, it is your ignorant unwillingness to accept reality that is causing you anger.

Derek Dooley was hired to clean up the mess left by Fulmer and Kiffin. When Dooley was hired, he never guaranteed instant "WINS." What he did guarantee is that he would rebuild the noble Tennessee football program into a program that we would be proud of. The national media agreed that Dooley was the right man for the job. The national media agreed that it was a 5-6 year project ... but Dooley could do it. They also stated that the rabid Vol fans would not have the patience to let Dooley do the job he was hired to do. All you do by rolling out junk like you posted above is to prove that the national media was right ... as far as describing our fans.

BTW, if you're so freakin' smart about evaluating college football programs and whether or not coaches are succeeding, what in the hell are you doing on here? As brilliant as you claim to be, I would think that a whole bunch of college programs would be lined up outside your door ready to pay big bucks for your advice. Make sure you leave the light on ... but don't hold your breath waiting for people gathering at your door seeking your advice.

Are you a Vol fan? It sounds like your more like a Kentucky or Vanderbilt fan that is use to losing season after season.Clean what up Kiffin sent some blonde fluzzy to help bring Bryce Brown here.He left to go coach USC.People act like he left a bunch of fragiled anarchy adolesents that couldnt move on.The school was fine we are talking about a football team.The goal of the Football team is to show teamwork and build character but to win and be successful while doing this.Yes there were character issues but every team deals with that.I hate when people act like Dooley was some savior brought here to rebuild us from the depths of hell back to the holy land.He is a football coach here to coach the football team and get the best players he can to help the team be successful.I got to know are you a Republican or Democrat? Dosent matter either way.Im just asking because if your a Republican I guarantee you wouldnt give Obama four more years to show us what he can do.The fact is this sports and not politics but however they are both based on results.It is always and will always be based on what you have or not won.Dooley hasnt won he might have done what he could to rebuild whatever fell but so did Obama. thats all we are pointing out and we just believe that he isnt the right man for the job. You might not agree but we are all entilted to our opinions. And yes if the Titans put me in charge of their draft and front office they would be in the playoffs every year.

Vols_fan_27 writes:

in response to gwavescVOL:

You guys have really got to stop with the Gruden phooey, its delusional to think he could do anything for anyone! He has not been on a college football sideline since 1991, or any sideline since 2008. He will come in with NO recruiting connections or cred, not to mention he's never proven he could really coach, winning his only super bowl with another coach's team, that there after declined until his departure!!! STOP with Gruden already its so far off base you lose credibility just by mentioning his name. If your going to call to replace Dooley at least have the sense to throw a name out that makes a little bit of sense, at least for the sake of saving some face for yourself. ITS RIDICULOUS

Maybe you misread... I never said for Gruden to be the next coach... all I said was someone with that caliber name because, lets be honest it carries weight. I don't want to see a coaching change because that means that UT football is a failure. But if it happens, we need someone that carries clout like a Gruden name would. Again, I never said he should be the next coach. His name is just recognizable as a high profile name that would not hurt recruiting and if a change is made it is going to have to be a high profile name for recruits to want to come to UT. My point was it will take someont like that...read twice before you post a reply...it will make more sense...GBO!

gwavescVOL writes:

in response to Vols_fan_27:

Maybe you misread... I never said for Gruden to be the next coach... all I said was someone with that caliber name because, lets be honest it carries weight. I don't want to see a coaching change because that means that UT football is a failure. But if it happens, we need someone that carries clout like a Gruden name would. Again, I never said he should be the next coach. His name is just recognizable as a high profile name that would not hurt recruiting and if a change is made it is going to have to be a high profile name for recruits to want to come to UT. My point was it will take someont like that...read twice before you post a reply...it will make more sense...GBO!

In theory, good point and fair enough (though I still think better examples could be used, not sure how much cred he has with 16/17 yr olds they've only really known him as a talking head).But I see your point sorry for being a little overzealous when seeing the name Gruden mentioned. Most of the posters that throw that name out have no theory, credit given. For the record I don't think a change should be made this year either. . . and GBO!

GloryDays writes:

in response to firemancooper:

SPOILER ALERT! I don't drink Dool-Aid

I think it is a shame. Has the Vol Nation accepted mediocrity and moral victories? Louisiana Tech did not:

Since Derek Dooley LEFT La Tech:
2012-Louisiana Tech is 4-0
2011-Louisiana Tech was 8-4-WAC Champion
2010-Louisiana Tech was 5-7

Seems like a nice progressive improvement? All under Sonny Dykes,

With Derek Dooley at Louisiana Tech???

2009 Louisiana Tech was 4-8
2008 Louisiana Tech was 8-5 Won Independence Bowl
2007 Louisiana Tech was 5-7

Did La Tech get worse under Dooley?

2012- Tennessee is 3-2 (0-2 SEC)
2011- Tennessee was 5-7 (1-7 SEC)
2010- Tennessee was 6-7 (3-5 SEC) Lost Music City Bowl

Has Tennessee shown any improvement? Almost won tonight? How do those "almost" wins help in the SEC Championship race?

Derek Dooley is 0-12 vs nationally top 25 ranked teams.
Derek Dooley led Tennessee Volunteers vs SEC Rivals:

Florida (0-3)
Georgia(0-3)
Alabama(0-2)
South Carolina (0-2)
Vanderbilt (2-0)
Kentucky (1-1)
Ole Miss (1-0)
LSU (0-2)
Arkansas (0-1)

Dooley's SEC record is 4-14
Dooley's Bowl record is 0-1

But hey, he's a nice guy that wears orange pants!

The Vols improved and hopefully will get better, but still this counts as a lose. O-12 against top 25 teams. What if Fulmer had Dooley's record? He would have been run out of town on a rail!

GoVols025 writes:

in response to TitanBlueGoVols:

Are you a Vol fan? It sounds like your more like a Kentucky or Vanderbilt fan that is use to losing season after season.Clean what up Kiffin sent some blonde fluzzy to help bring Bryce Brown here.He left to go coach USC.People act like he left a bunch of fragiled anarchy adolesents that couldnt move on.The school was fine we are talking about a football team.The goal of the Football team is to show teamwork and build character but to win and be successful while doing this.Yes there were character issues but every team deals with that.I hate when people act like Dooley was some savior brought here to rebuild us from the depths of hell back to the holy land.He is a football coach here to coach the football team and get the best players he can to help the team be successful.I got to know are you a Republican or Democrat? Dosent matter either way.Im just asking because if your a Republican I guarantee you wouldnt give Obama four more years to show us what he can do.The fact is this sports and not politics but however they are both based on results.It is always and will always be based on what you have or not won.Dooley hasnt won he might have done what he could to rebuild whatever fell but so did Obama. thats all we are pointing out and we just believe that he isnt the right man for the job. You might not agree but we are all entilted to our opinions. And yes if the Titans put me in charge of their draft and front office they would be in the playoffs every year.

I've read your rambling diatribe several times and tend to lose the thought thread after each sentence. Whatever you're trying to say, well, OK, whatever.

Yup, been a Vol fan for many a year. Many a decade even! Rep or Dem? Niether. I don't subscribe to anyone's BS mantra about what's right or wrong for me. I do a good enough job of messing that choice up for myself!

However, if I think long enough about you comparing Coach Dooley to that fellar who lives, without paying rent, at 1600 Pa Ave, I might have to take offense. Coach Dooley isn't dangerous! That dude is.

chattownwes writes:

Maybe now that the team is moving into the new training facility it will make them better.......wishful thinking. Maybe the defense can learn how to contain the edge watching the big screen in the amphitheater.

Oh and by the way..... Did anyone else notice that even the announcers on CBS knew what offensive play we had called???

C'mon MAN!!!!!!

Vols_fan_27 writes:

in response to gwavescVOL:

In theory, good point and fair enough (though I still think better examples could be used, not sure how much cred he has with 16/17 yr olds they've only really known him as a talking head).But I see your point sorry for being a little overzealous when seeing the name Gruden mentioned. Most of the posters that throw that name out have no theory, credit given. For the record I don't think a change should be made this year either. . . and GBO!

Agreed on the comment of him being nothing more than a talking head but his name is recognizable to high school players. And this was my big point... if a change is made and someone is brought in and that person is nothing more than another name and High School players really don't know who that person is (my "up and coming" coach remark) it does nothing but set us back again. Like you, I hope a change is not needed but if it is, I just hope they open the checkbook and get someone that can step in and automatically, up recruiting just because of their name. I like you don't think Gruden is that guy, for one he is making more money with ESPN than he ever would at UT and is not the fit. I was just using the name as a hypothetical situation..GBO!

GoVols025 writes:

in response to GloryDays:

The Vols improved and hopefully will get better, but still this counts as a lose. O-12 against top 25 teams. What if Fulmer had Dooley's record? He would have been run out of town on a rail!

Is it really bad that what happened in Athens Sat afternoon "counts as a lose?"

And OBTW, in case you missed it, Fulmer was "run out of town on a rail," with a $6,000,000 ticket to ride.

"Glory Days?" Are you Bruce Springsteen?

gwavescVOL writes:

in response to Vols_fan_27:

Agreed on the comment of him being nothing more than a talking head but his name is recognizable to high school players. And this was my big point... if a change is made and someone is brought in and that person is nothing more than another name and High School players really don't know who that person is (my "up and coming" coach remark) it does nothing but set us back again. Like you, I hope a change is not needed but if it is, I just hope they open the checkbook and get someone that can step in and automatically, up recruiting just because of their name. I like you don't think Gruden is that guy, for one he is making more money with ESPN than he ever would at UT and is not the fit. I was just using the name as a hypothetical situation..GBO!

All that just to agree. . . funny

tnvol34 writes:

No more leftfooted kickers please! Too hard to hold for them! Defense cannot tackle, takes bad angles, Bray makes mistakes at critical times!

jschariter#367312 writes:

My take of it is the Vols simply don't have the athletes it takes to win consistently in the SEC. Vols over the past 2 years are a combined 1-9 in the SEC, and the players on offense with the exception of Patterson are essentially the same (lost Darick and got back Hunter). Defense last year was 28th in the country and this year shredded by over 1100 yards in 2 SEC games. It looks to me they are worse on defense. Basically the team is better on offense depending on which Bray shows up, worse on defense, and about the same on special teams. The intangibles look about the same or worse. They tend to make key drops/penalties/missed extra points/fumbles/Interceptions at the worse time of the game... a sign of poor confidence and fundamentals. Our coaching seems to be below average in the SEC, and our recruiting classes have been at the 50 yard line each of past 2 years in the SEC. Our best recruiting class we had was the one Dooley concluded when Kiffin left. We will see what happens the balance of the year.

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