Wrath of Butch finds Vols

Jones laments mistakes in first of two scrimmages

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Tennessee defensive back coach Willie Martinez gives instructions to Geraldo Orta during practice at Haslam Field on Saturday.

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SAUL YOUNG/NEWS SENTINEL Tennessee defensive back coach Willie Martinez gives instructions to Geraldo Orta during practice at Haslam Field on Saturday.

University of Tennessee wide receiver Pig Howard during pre-training camp at Haslam Field, Saturday, Aug. 3, 2013. (Amy Smotherman Burgess/News Sentinel)

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University of Tennessee wide receiver Pig Howard during pre-training camp at Haslam Field, Saturday, Aug. 3, 2013. (Amy Smotherman Burgess/News Sentinel)

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Tennessee defensive back coach Willie Martinez gives instructions to Geraldo Orta during practice at Haslam Field on Saturday.

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SAUL YOUNG/NEWS SENTINEL Tennessee defensive back coach Willie Martinez gives instructions to Geraldo Orta during practice at Haslam Field on Saturday.

Saturday morning football practice

After a sluggish morning session, Tennessee’s ground game bounced back Saturday night, capping a two-scrimmage day with a victory at the line of scrimmage.

The Vols scrimmaged at Haslam Field on Saturday morning, but plans to make their Neyland Stadium debut in the evening were spoiled by an afternoon thunderstorm. Tennessee completed its work indoors.

Coach Butch Jones said he could tell it was going to be a good two-a-day by gauging players’ demeanor at the 7 a.m. meeting.

“I thought the players showed a lot of resiliency today,” Jones said after the final practice ended 14 hours later.

Jones praised running back Rajion Neal, and said the offense scored on a 98-yard run because of “too many missed tackles” on defense. (The evening scrimmage was closed to the media.)

“Rajion ran with a purpose today,” Jones said.

The Vols finished the night with a touchdown drive that included 14 consecutive running plays. Neal credited Alden Hill with the bulk of those touches. The streak both heartened and concerned the head coach.

“You have to run the ball to win in the SEC,” he said. “The flip side is you have to stop the run on defense.”

Jones was just as forceful during two-a-days as he is during any other practice. At one point,

he turned to a wheezing receiver, “Wideouts run all day in our offense, or they transfer to a Division II school.”

He also spared no feelings in criticizing penalties. After a delay-of-game penalty on the offense in the last series of the morning session, he pronounced the mistake “Catastrophic!”

Receiver Marquez North also felt his wrath. One play after making a nice catch, North failed to get set in his stance properly before the snap, drawing an illegal procedure penalty. “How can that happen?” Butch barked at North.

North was at the center of the most critical play in the morning session.

The scenario was fourth-and-long, time running out, the game on the line. In this case, it actually was the final series in the scrimmage, so the pressure was magnified.

Justin Worley found North near the sidelines about 20 yards downfield and it looked like a brilliant pass and catch would give the offense new life. But Brian Randolph made a big hit, breaking up the pass and saving the game.

The defensive sideline erupted in cheers. But an official rushed over to chat with defensive coordinator John Jancek. Was Randolph’s hit legal?

The play happened in the blink of an eye, and no one thought the hit was dirty. But Randolph’s helmet did appear to make contact with North’s.

Jones had officials review the play on video. Their verdict? An illegal targeting hit.

The penalty would have given the offense a first down and 15 yards at a crucial moment in the game. Randolph would have been immediately ejected and would have been forced to sit out the first half of the next game. One play that seemed on its face to be a game-changer for the defense was in fact the polar opposite.

“That changes the complexion of the game,” Jones said.

On special teams, the Vols went through a few scenarios in the morning session, but were limited in what they could do indoors Saturday night.

Senior place-kicker Michael Palardy missed back-to-back field goals, but they were from 57 yards out and he bit both kicks solidly. Second-string kicker George Bullock didn’t fare as well. His shorter attempt was blocked easily.

Jones used the block as a teaching moment. If the ball lands on the defensive side of the line of scrimmage, “it’s poison,” he said. “Don’t touch it.”

If it stays behind the line, the kicking team can scoop it up, so be alert.

Whatever the case, “Don’t celebrate until the game is over.”

Evan Woodbery covers Tennessee football. Follow him at www.Twitter.com/TennesseeBeat.

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sameolvolalum writes:

I'm sure that I'm not alone in believing UT's got a lot more talent than most folks realize. Let's just hope the injury bug doesn't hit.

PHAT_VOL writes:

The defense is practicing against one of the or maybe the best offensive lines in college football. This has to make them better. I'm not sure about the defensive coaches, yet. Martinez and John Jancek were let go by Georgia a few years back. But adversity can make you better. As all the players and us fans know!

GO VOLS!!!

Orange_Power_T writes:

in response to sameolvolalum:

I'm sure that I'm not alone in believing UT's got a lot more talent than most folks realize. Let's just hope the injury bug doesn't hit.

Agreed but am concerned about a 98 yard TD run. Hope the defense figures out how not to give up the big play.

lemme_axya_this writes:

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orange_eVOLution writes:

in response to PHAT_VOL:

The defense is practicing against one of the or maybe the best offensive lines in college football. This has to make them better. I'm not sure about the defensive coaches, yet. Martinez and John Jancek were let go by Georgia a few years back. But adversity can make you better. As all the players and us fans know!

GO VOLS!!!

That was just politics. Georgia sucks.

SeaBassHauling writes:

The talent we have is on lines....Both off. N Def. lines....These guys beating against one another all thru this camp and will continue....BUT this will only prepare them for the season ahead...Thing is building enough depth and keeping injury bugs down is crucial for any team....! The surprise is the young guys that are making an impact....This also good for the depth and competition

mikethehistorystudent writes:

Coaching as in all types of leadership is about balancing positive reinforcement with being stern and critical. I hope CBJ knows what his players can take and how to make them better without dragging their self-esteem through the dirt. I can say that I've cursed my TV a few times when we missed multiple tackles. It looks cool to fly through the air and plant a hit, but leaving your feet often results in a missed tackle.

Just speaking honestly and personally, I'm one of the hardest working people I know. I'm mostly self driven with little tolerance for being insulted or disrespected. I know that getting dogged out after messing up a play wouldn't make me work harder next time. However, I'm also not physically talented enough to play D1 football.

budd#207344 writes:

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WaltGoVoIs writes:

Best not to get Wrobbed.

Walt

UT '81

dragon18 writes:

in response to SAMA_BUCKS:

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I'm not aware of any case brought forth by Pat Summit? Could you elaborate on what that case is and when it was filed? If there is no case you really need to just state facts.

tennrich1 writes:

Show some maturity and don't respond to set ups by trollers today Vols....just don't do it....

punkin writes:

I have a feeling that "targeting" rule will change a few games this year.

Long_Black_Train writes:

Looks like a little "slobber-knocking" is going on at Haslam.

volfanz writes:

LOVE Coaches attitude! "Wideouts run all day in our offense, or they transfer to Division II schools"....Love it!!!

jaydubuc writes:

in response to GET_OVER_IT_YOU_LOST:

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Stop acting like you're a seasoned troll. What a lame comment.

gatorhator4eva writes:

discipline and accountability are key to any good team. coach jones has this part clearly knocked out of the park. i like what i see as a season ticket holder, but as with every season we must wait to see the product on the field to make any determination. as someone mentioned, our offensive line is the best in the country. that could mean either our defense is very good or it could mean were not so good. time will tell.

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to PHAT_VOL:

The defense is practicing against one of the or maybe the best offensive lines in college football. This has to make them better. I'm not sure about the defensive coaches, yet. Martinez and John Jancek were let go by Georgia a few years back. But adversity can make you better. As all the players and us fans know!

GO VOLS!!!

I echo your concerns, but Martinez was the DC at UGA and his experience in the SEC is vital.Unlike recent hires under Dooley he's a top shelf recruiter that demands performance from his athletes.

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to volfanz:

LOVE Coaches attitude! "Wideouts run all day in our offense, or they transfer to Division II schools"....Love it!!!

Yep, that's why athletes like T.Owens end up at UTC. I also get the feeling Randy Moss would have walked off the field and never returned with CBJ at the helm. I could hear him now: God forbid, you can't take plays off and loaf?? I'm outta here!

powert#205805 writes:

in response to lemme_axya_this:

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UNQUESTIONABLY, the comment of the day!

Rich_Is_Re-born writes:

Martinez is an ELITE DB coach....keep in mind that's what got him the DC gig at UGA. Him being released of his duties as a DC is totally irrelevant. Jancek was CO-coordinator at UGA. I'm sorry, but co-coordinators are set up to fail from the start.

SavTnVol writes:

At one point,he turned to a wheezing receiver, “Wideouts run all day in our offense, or they transfer to a Division II school.”....man I'm liking this guy more everyday! No BS Butch

dragon18 writes:

in response to GET_OVER_IT_YOU_LOST:

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One of the most ridiculous posts I've read in a while. So what you are implying is that you... a poster on a news website... knows more about what it takes to run the ball in the SEC than a person who has made a career in the college coaching profession? Does that about sum it up?

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to Rich_Is_Re-born:

Martinez is an ELITE DB coach....keep in mind that's what got him the DC gig at UGA. Him being released of his duties as a DC is totally irrelevant. Jancek was CO-coordinator at UGA. I'm sorry, but co-coordinators are set up to fail from the start.

Great point, the captains on defense were probably getting mixed signals under that form of leadership. Jancek being the man means his decisions are final.

PHAT_VOL writes:

in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE:

I echo your concerns, but Martinez was the DC at UGA and his experience in the SEC is vital.Unlike recent hires under Dooley he's a top shelf recruiter that demands performance from his athletes.

I agree, Richt was getting a lot of heat from the UGA upper crust. So, it was either Bobo or Martinez and favorite son Bobo was not gonna be the one let go. Martinez was a great hire. When you look at what has happen to U.T. football in last few years it might just turn out to be like a perfect storm.

johnlg00 writes:

So far, so good for me about how Butch seems to know how and when to offer the carrot and when to use the stick. A good coach doesn't treat everyone the SAME, he treats everyone FAIRLY. Sometimes a player needs a pat on the back and sometimes he needs a kick in the butt.

I agree with the poster who was concerned about the 98-yard run. The ONE thing most of us hope for this year is that the defense can at least stop giving up big plays. It seems clear that the defense was initially fooled, but a wrong alignment or step shouldn't completely take the defense out of the play. Now, I know Neal is fast, but there are LOTS of fast guys on UT's schedule.

As for the way the offense plowed down the field with the running game, we know for one thing that the O-line certainly SHOULD be among the best in the country, so the defense might be pretty good--they are just being dominated by a superior offense.

For another thing, we know that the defensive line has had a rash of injuries. Not only is the defensive depth hurt, the ones still out there may be playing tentatively at times out of the fear of injury, even though we know that that CAUSES injury as often as not. The uncertainty resulting from an "injury outbreak" is something this team does NOT need while it is still in the process of getting its football mind right.

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to PHAT_VOL:

I agree, Richt was getting a lot of heat from the UGA upper crust. So, it was either Bobo or Martinez and favorite son Bobo was not gonna be the one let go. Martinez was a great hire. When you look at what has happen to U.T. football in last few years it might just turn out to be like a perfect storm.

You're definitely seeing the forest opposed to one tree..GBO!!

kazoo writes:

"Randolph's helmet did appear to make contact with North's helmet." Really? Didn't see the play--but I hope they are not going to call penalties and eject players because of helmet-to-helmet contact. It will be a circus--absurd. Ball-carriers often run low and bent over: there is no way you cannot make contact with a helmet when you are tackling! Yes, deliberate attempts to launch at someone with a helmet should be flagged--but nothing else. Watch it: This rule will be a DISASTER this year with officials making bad judgment calls.

GainesvilleVol1 writes:

Its hot, they are tired, tired physically and tired of each other. Kinda wish we had W. Ky first instead of Whats ammater u.

Stay Healthy and GO VOLS!!

OrangePride writes:

I may be wrong, but I don't think I heard about ANY of this kind of passion, in-your-face coaching over the Dooley years. THIS is the kind of thing in summer camp that will build team cohesiveness, toughness, and the ability to get thru the hard days ahead. You go back and look at how Bear Bryant turned an awful Alabama side around and you will see what I am talking about. When you suffer and go to war together, you bond and are willing to just about die for each other. Can't wait to see this on the field because if you give me three years of this kind of approach I am sure Tennessee WILL BE back ... starting RIGHT DARNED NOW! GO CBJ! GO VOLS!!

bUTch_please writes:

According to the paper, it was a 98 yard drive, not run. 2nd team defense against 2nd team offense, 15 handoffs and Hill carried most of the load. Lane said they were running downhill and changed the tone of the entire practice. Good stuff happening.

roobomb writes:

in response to bUTch_please:

According to the paper, it was a 98 yard drive, not run. 2nd team defense against 2nd team offense, 15 handoffs and Hill carried most of the load. Lane said they were running downhill and changed the tone of the entire practice. Good stuff happening.

I think the 98 yd run and the 14 play drive were different instances, but I may be wrong.

abnermc writes:

in response to bUTch_please:

According to the paper, it was a 98 yard drive, not run. 2nd team defense against 2nd team offense, 15 handoffs and Hill carried most of the load. Lane said they were running downhill and changed the tone of the entire practice. Good stuff happening.

no, the paper said it was a 98 yard RUN.

bUTch_please writes:

in response to roobomb:

I think the 98 yd run and the 14 play drive were different instances, but I may be wrong.

Thanks. I gave away the sports section after I read it...so running on recall myself. As long as it's more done to the other guy and less done on us, I'm good. We had GA on the ropes last year in the 3rd by running and let off the gas. I'm glad to see these coaches preparing to just stuff the rock until the defense breaks. Not the answer all the time, but with the OL we have this year...not a time to go air raid.

Navaloranges writes:

in response to GET_OVER_IT_YOU_LOST:

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It's laughable how you PRETEND to be in a position to explain ANYTHING about football to coach Jones. Mental "little people" such as yourself and the Fraud "sama", have no credibility and are simply laughed at by the mere sight of your screen name appearing on this board. I can't figure out what's more pathetic, losers like you having to post for attention, or the fact that you can't understand how insignificant you really are.

Navaloranges writes:

in response to Navaloranges:

It's laughable how you PRETEND to be in a position to explain ANYTHING about football to coach Jones. Mental "little people" such as yourself and the Fraud "sama", have no credibility and are simply laughed at by the mere sight of your screen name appearing on this board. I can't figure out what's more pathetic, losers like you having to post for attention, or the fact that you can't understand how insignificant you really are.

furthermore... at CBJ's two previous stops as head coach, he faced several SEC TEAMS with as much success as humanly possible with the talent he had at hand. Btw, he won at least one championship at each of his two previous head coaching positions. FACTS that makes you look completely foolish for posting the drivel you posted above. And you PRETEND to be able to explain ANYTHING about the game to CBJ. HILARIOUS!

AGAIN, I don't see how an insignificant Troll can't see how "simple" minded they look when posting such nonsense. Ridiculous.

antonio14313 writes:

I hate that defenders can't hit anymore. (Hold on to the ball freshman!!!)

go vols.

t

DawgDayAfternoon writes:

It's not the wrath and false bravado of Butchie Boy - tempered by having run the gauntlet of the oh-so-tough MAC and Big Least - that these players should be worried about. It's the wrath of Oregon, Florida, S.C., Bama, Auburn, Vandy and, of course, the Dawgs. That spells another 5-7 or 4-8.

usnavyvolfan__times_free_press_can_shove_it writes:

in response to DawgDayAfternoon:

It's not the wrath and false bravado of Butchie Boy - tempered by having run the gauntlet of the oh-so-tough MAC and Big Least - that these players should be worried about. It's the wrath of Oregon, Florida, S.C., Bama, Auburn, Vandy and, of course, the Dawgs. That spells another 5-7 or 4-8.

I'd love for you to call coach "butchie boy" to his face...Please, let me know how it turns out!

As bad as our team was, our boys hung over 40 points on the mutts last year; pretty sorry showing for a team that made it to the SECCG.

usnavyvolfan__times_free_press_can_shove_it writes:

in response to GET_OVER_IT_YOU_LOST:

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What he said was true, DA. But, please, amaze us with your coaching prowess. You know so much, why didn't you drop a resume after Dooley got axed?

usnavyvolfan__times_free_press_can_shove_it writes:

in response to Navaloranges:

furthermore... at CBJ's two previous stops as head coach, he faced several SEC TEAMS with as much success as humanly possible with the talent he had at hand. Btw, he won at least one championship at each of his two previous head coaching positions. FACTS that makes you look completely foolish for posting the drivel you posted above. And you PRETEND to be able to explain ANYTHING about the game to CBJ. HILARIOUS!

AGAIN, I don't see how an insignificant Troll can't see how "simple" minded they look when posting such nonsense. Ridiculous.

Cosign!

johnlg00 writes:

in response to kazoo:

"Randolph's helmet did appear to make contact with North's helmet." Really? Didn't see the play--but I hope they are not going to call penalties and eject players because of helmet-to-helmet contact. It will be a circus--absurd. Ball-carriers often run low and bent over: there is no way you cannot make contact with a helmet when you are tackling! Yes, deliberate attempts to launch at someone with a helmet should be flagged--but nothing else. Watch it: This rule will be a DISASTER this year with officials making bad judgment calls.

Yeah, it's not like they get everything else right all the time. All they need is another controversial, subjective, potentially game-changing judgment play to screw up! I get the urgency about preventing head injuries, but I'm not sure this is the best way to go about it.

Orange_Beach writes:

in response to Navaloranges:

furthermore... at CBJ's two previous stops as head coach, he faced several SEC TEAMS with as much success as humanly possible with the talent he had at hand. Btw, he won at least one championship at each of his two previous head coaching positions. FACTS that makes you look completely foolish for posting the drivel you posted above. And you PRETEND to be able to explain ANYTHING about the game to CBJ. HILARIOUS!

AGAIN, I don't see how an insignificant Troll can't see how "simple" minded they look when posting such nonsense. Ridiculous.

There you go again. Already making excuses for Butchie Boy losing games. You did the same thing with Doofus right to the end while everybody on here was telling you he was nothing more than a loser.

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to Orange_Beach:

There you go again. Already making excuses for Butchie Boy losing games. You did the same thing with Doofus right to the end while everybody on here was telling you he was nothing more than a loser.

Uhhh, what excuses? The man explained himself with facts not rumor. You on the other hand are just argumentative, idiotic/moronic etc..NGTH!

orangecountyvols writes:

in response to dragon18:

One of the most ridiculous posts I've read in a while. So what you are implying is that you... a poster on a news website... knows more about what it takes to run the ball in the SEC than a person who has made a career in the college coaching profession? Does that about sum it up?

Dragon,

Listen my friend. Remember, you're playing into the hands of "Get over it/I'm a troll" aka Wilted Flowers.

He was consumed with the Doolaid jabbering, now it's the "Butchie Boy" jabbering. A dead giveaway.

We're better off ignoring this idiot and eventually he'll once again be shown the door, only to come back with another screen name. How many is it now? Kremser, Glenn Ford, Johnny Majors etc.

What a complete waste of our time here.
The clown is a classic example of what a born loser sounds like.

brokendownoldvol writes:

in response to sameolvolalum:

I'm sure that I'm not alone in believing UT's got a lot more talent than most folks realize. Let's just hope the injury bug doesn't hit.

Reminds me of the 89 season. No one thought they would win 5 games. They had a strong offensive line back and went out west and ran it down a top 5 Pac-10 team"s throat (UCLA) who was also favored by 21 pts.

DawgDayAfternoon writes:

Martinez is nothing but one of our culls; just like Dooley and Sunseri were Nicky's culls; just like Cheek and Hart are Gatur and FSU culls. That's all the Vols can hire anymore. That includes Butchie Boy, a Brian Kelly clipboard holder and errand boy.

It's 4-8 or 5-7 this year.

volistic writes:

in response to kazoo:

"Randolph's helmet did appear to make contact with North's helmet." Really? Didn't see the play--but I hope they are not going to call penalties and eject players because of helmet-to-helmet contact. It will be a circus--absurd. Ball-carriers often run low and bent over: there is no way you cannot make contact with a helmet when you are tackling! Yes, deliberate attempts to launch at someone with a helmet should be flagged--but nothing else. Watch it: This rule will be a DISASTER this year with officials making bad judgment calls.

That's the way I understand the new rule, and it's going to change football forever. If there is helmet-to-helmet contact, there will be a penalty, and the offending player will be ejected. On review, the review official can overturn the ejection if he determines there was no targeting, but the penalty will stand, even if the review shows no helmet-to-helmet contact. Just another way for the officials to take over the game. I hate it, but it is what it is.

abnerPeabody writes:

in response to lemme_axya_this:

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probly because you are not too bright.

volistic writes:

I hope everyone realizes that these people who pretend to be fans of other schools, yet spend every waking minute on a UT site are just Vol fans desperately seeking attention. Have you noticed how they seem to know more about UT's schedule, recruiting and history than most UT fans? I have noticed that many times they are among the first ones to post on a story, sometimes posting comments a 2:00 AM. Do people really think Florida or Alabama fans are going to spend all their time on a UT site? These are actually people obsessed with UT, more than most UT fans, and have found that they can get more attention by heckling other fans. You have to ignore them just like that annoying disruptive child who will do anything to get attention.

abnerPeabody writes:

in response to GET_OVER_IT_YOU_LOST:

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Neither do you,you fool.

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