John Adams: Vols stuck on seven losses no matter who's coaching

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Tennessee coach Butch Jones greets his players during the first half against Kentucky at Commonwealth Stadium on Saturday, Nov. 30, 2013, in Lexington, Ky. (KEVIN MARTIN/NEWS SENTINEL)

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Tennessee coach Butch Jones greets his players during the first half against Kentucky at Commonwealth Stadium on Saturday, Nov. 30, 2013, in Lexington, Ky. (KEVIN MARTIN/NEWS SENTINEL)

A couple of words come to mind at the end of most college football seasons: “what if?”

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MooseandSquirrelVol writes:

That's it.
I've enjoyed all the Adams I can stand.
Cancelling my subscription right damn now.

9wb writes:

Amen to that. He is terrible. Time for a change. Knoxville is tired of the same old negative phooey.

snowpeapod#263184 writes:

It's possible but not likely that you're right John but let me give you a fact. We're stuck with a lousy anti Tennessee sports writer and there is precious little we can do about it. Take a new poll on the percentage of readers who after looking at your headline actually read your trash.

facultyman writes:

The Vols will be lucky to win 4 or five games next year with their poor tackling mechanics. Do the Vols have any SEC level D-coaches who know how to teach hit hard and wrap up instead of mostly bump tackling, arm wrestling, and ball stripping?

ray61 writes:

John, I think you are right and I know some of our fans don't want to hear the truth. Having said that, I think if we stick with Butch for a few more years he will turn things around.

vut5686#1405392 writes:

Hold the phones! Stop the presses! JA can count. Yep, our fourth seven loss season. The issue is paying to read someone who spouts the obvious. If we have followed the Vols; if we care about them, we know everything JA said and do not need him braying the obvious...always with a negative slant.

Since Adams just regurgitated the past, reminded us of the present and predicted the future, what more can he have to say for a year or two? Very little, one can only hope.

underthehill writes:

Truth hurts..UT football has become more of a social event than a competitive sporting event..the UT fans are the strength of the school..there is no school who could come close to the attendance UT has with a product like they have on the field...

FWBVol writes:

Let's see John, you forget one important piece of information about the Vandy game. UT was ruled to have stopped Vandy on the field, but a replay official overturned the play without the indisputable video evidence needed to reverse the call.

If Nick Saban hadn't elected to kick a field goal with one second left on the clock yesterday Alabama might still be undefeated.

wigmeister writes:

This writer is an idiot!

asleep#212036 writes:

The problem with your argument John is that talent issues aside, and they are legion, this season's 7 losses were pretty much guaranteed because of the prior three years. These seniors are losers - not personally, mind you as they have been beat down more than any group in over 100 years - but historically, losers. And that matters. When Kiffin took over he got a group of guys with some good memories - SEC CGs, bowl games NOT in Nashville, big wins. He won a couple, played in a decent bowl, and almost pulled the shocker in T-town but in the end, he moved on and most of his vaunted first recruiting class was gone too by various means. Then Dooley. He inherited less than Kiffin, mainly due to Kiffin, and proceeded over three years to drain all the remaining good memories out of each successive class. By the time Jones took over, none of these guys have anything left in the tank on which to reach down for something extra. LSU debacle, UNC loss, Kentucky meltdown, failure after failure last year in position to win - losing, and a seeming indifference about it, has become ingrained. When we needed to bow up against Georgia on the last drive - nothing left. When we needed the OT score, fatal mistake. When we desperately needed the first down against Vandy to more or less ice the game - failure. Unfortunately it's all these kids know and sadly, what they've come to expect. When Butch talks about changing the culture he means just that - putting winning back in these kids' heads' as a real option. Malzahnn and Pinkel revived and/or suffered through one-year setbacks - good for them but nowhere near the job Butch took on. Does anyone think if Butch had been hired after Kiffin the program would be where it is today? No, of course not. And there's your answer John - this program had no chance of winning this year (with any coach) and next year may be much of the same but Butch seems, at least to this point, to be bringing us real hope for seasons yet to come. That's why Hart hired him and I, for one, am perfectly willing to wait and see what happens. So far it looks pretty good for the future. Go Vols!!!

snowpeapod#263184 writes:

in response to asleep#212036:

The problem with your argument John is that talent issues aside, and they are legion, this season's 7 losses were pretty much guaranteed because of the prior three years. These seniors are losers - not personally, mind you as they have been beat down more than any group in over 100 years - but historically, losers. And that matters. When Kiffin took over he got a group of guys with some good memories - SEC CGs, bowl games NOT in Nashville, big wins. He won a couple, played in a decent bowl, and almost pulled the shocker in T-town but in the end, he moved on and most of his vaunted first recruiting class was gone too by various means. Then Dooley. He inherited less than Kiffin, mainly due to Kiffin, and proceeded over three years to drain all the remaining good memories out of each successive class. By the time Jones took over, none of these guys have anything left in the tank on which to reach down for something extra. LSU debacle, UNC loss, Kentucky meltdown, failure after failure last year in position to win - losing, and a seeming indifference about it, has become ingrained. When we needed to bow up against Georgia on the last drive - nothing left. When we needed the OT score, fatal mistake. When we desperately needed the first down against Vandy to more or less ice the game - failure. Unfortunately it's all these kids know and sadly, what they've come to expect. When Butch talks about changing the culture he means just that - putting winning back in these kids' heads' as a real option. Malzahnn and Pinkel revived and/or suffered through one-year setbacks - good for them but nowhere near the job Butch took on. Does anyone think if Butch had been hired after Kiffin the program would be where it is today? No, of course not. And there's your answer John - this program had no chance of winning this year (with any coach) and next year may be much of the same but Butch seems, at least to this point, to be bringing us real hope for seasons yet to come. That's why Hart hired him and I, for one, am perfectly willing to wait and see what happens. So far it looks pretty good for the future. Go Vols!!!

Hey sleepy, if you were a sports writer I would rate your comment better than anything Adams has ever or could write. GREAT POST !!!!!

atnvol#283282 writes:

Adams is a very negative person whose sarcasm is always nearby. I wish the NS would hire Patrick Brown from Chattanooga to replace JA's repetitive drivel. The kid is very bright and entertaining and would fit nicely with Evan Woodbery who I have grown to really like. Woodbery can be forthright and tastefully critical without beating you down with negativity. How in the heck is it we get two writers from Louisiana(Adams/Hyams)? I enjoyed Jimmy Hyams earlier in his career but he has gotten so grumpy anymore with his job , I wish he would move on also....and it seems as if Hyams takes great delight in letting folks know that he is not a Tennessee fan. He claims to be objective but you can detect a bit of glee in his reports when it involves trouble for the Vols. I would like to see these two fellows quietly leave the Knoxville sports scene and let some younger perspective enter the scene. I will add that I think Mike Strange is first class and gives honest perspective without hyping negativity....he reminds me of the classic icon of sportswriters....Ben Byrd.

murrayvol writes:

in response to asleep#212036:

The problem with your argument John is that talent issues aside, and they are legion, this season's 7 losses were pretty much guaranteed because of the prior three years. These seniors are losers - not personally, mind you as they have been beat down more than any group in over 100 years - but historically, losers. And that matters. When Kiffin took over he got a group of guys with some good memories - SEC CGs, bowl games NOT in Nashville, big wins. He won a couple, played in a decent bowl, and almost pulled the shocker in T-town but in the end, he moved on and most of his vaunted first recruiting class was gone too by various means. Then Dooley. He inherited less than Kiffin, mainly due to Kiffin, and proceeded over three years to drain all the remaining good memories out of each successive class. By the time Jones took over, none of these guys have anything left in the tank on which to reach down for something extra. LSU debacle, UNC loss, Kentucky meltdown, failure after failure last year in position to win - losing, and a seeming indifference about it, has become ingrained. When we needed to bow up against Georgia on the last drive - nothing left. When we needed the OT score, fatal mistake. When we desperately needed the first down against Vandy to more or less ice the game - failure. Unfortunately it's all these kids know and sadly, what they've come to expect. When Butch talks about changing the culture he means just that - putting winning back in these kids' heads' as a real option. Malzahnn and Pinkel revived and/or suffered through one-year setbacks - good for them but nowhere near the job Butch took on. Does anyone think if Butch had been hired after Kiffin the program would be where it is today? No, of course not. And there's your answer John - this program had no chance of winning this year (with any coach) and next year may be much of the same but Butch seems, at least to this point, to be bringing us real hope for seasons yet to come. That's why Hart hired him and I, for one, am perfectly willing to wait and see what happens. So far it looks pretty good for the future. Go Vols!!!

Exactly. Good column. Should be a "must read" for all Vol fans right now.

It's so much easier to throw bricks than to mortar them into a wall.

SmokeysPup writes:

All I can say is I believe in Butch and I also know the SEC East will be wide open next year.

gc_scvol writes:

JA, as usual you have spewed more garbage. How do you feel about being such an AH. Take a poll and see just how popular you are. Not only to be blamed is JA, but the people who employ him. He's protected and he knows he can get away with writing such garbage. Does any body really knw who is responsible for employing this AH.Just curious as to who is responsible for his being on staff Also would like to know who has the b**** to admit to employing Mr. H. Just want to add these people to the list of those who can kiss my big ole hairy B***.

gc_scvol writes:

in response to asleep#212036:

The problem with your argument John is that talent issues aside, and they are legion, this season's 7 losses were pretty much guaranteed because of the prior three years. These seniors are losers - not personally, mind you as they have been beat down more than any group in over 100 years - but historically, losers. And that matters. When Kiffin took over he got a group of guys with some good memories - SEC CGs, bowl games NOT in Nashville, big wins. He won a couple, played in a decent bowl, and almost pulled the shocker in T-town but in the end, he moved on and most of his vaunted first recruiting class was gone too by various means. Then Dooley. He inherited less than Kiffin, mainly due to Kiffin, and proceeded over three years to drain all the remaining good memories out of each successive class. By the time Jones took over, none of these guys have anything left in the tank on which to reach down for something extra. LSU debacle, UNC loss, Kentucky meltdown, failure after failure last year in position to win - losing, and a seeming indifference about it, has become ingrained. When we needed to bow up against Georgia on the last drive - nothing left. When we needed the OT score, fatal mistake. When we desperately needed the first down against Vandy to more or less ice the game - failure. Unfortunately it's all these kids know and sadly, what they've come to expect. When Butch talks about changing the culture he means just that - putting winning back in these kids' heads' as a real option. Malzahnn and Pinkel revived and/or suffered through one-year setbacks - good for them but nowhere near the job Butch took on. Does anyone think if Butch had been hired after Kiffin the program would be where it is today? No, of course not. And there's your answer John - this program had no chance of winning this year (with any coach) and next year may be much of the same but Butch seems, at least to this point, to be bringing us real hope for seasons yet to come. That's why Hart hired him and I, for one, am perfectly willing to wait and see what happens. So far it looks pretty good for the future. Go Vols!!!

Excellent post.

utfans#211352 writes:

Usually I am ok with Adams, but i do think a writer for a fan base who is paying a subscription to read about a team has some obligation to that fan base to not be this negative. I do like to deal with the truth,but there is no reason to think anyone who pays to read about Tennessee wants to read something this negative about next year this soon coming off another disappointing year. It is supposed to be entertainment. I am not entertained. I am considering dropping this site.

bUTch__please writes:

Consider yourself lucky after you read this article. Decades of a mans life has been given to dredge misery...only to find himself in a hole of his own creation. Blindly waving a stick in a vain attempt to find the badger he once so eagerly poked. I think pity is the appropriate reaction.

murrayvol writes:

Like SmokeysPup I believe in Butch. I also believe it's going to take longer than many fans want to put a winning team (vs top tier SEC teams) on the field.

In addition to upgrading talent CBJ must change a culture of losing that has been developing since Kiffin arrived. Kiffin inherited a roster of players who had experience in winning. Butch didn't.

fannotsheep writes:

Two more years before it gets better. You can't win in the SEC with all freshmen and sophomores -- and that is what the Vols will put on the field next season. After that I expect we will see steady improvement, and in three years we could be right back up there. IF the recruiting continues to be top 5 and IF Jones and his staff can do more than recruit.

We will see.

southernbelle79 writes:

Can't ya'll see JA is simply stirring the pot? Who would have thunk that Auburn AND Missouri could both reverse their fortunes in a single year?

UT can pull an equally miraculous turnaround by next year, and it will be wonderful if they do. Unfortunately, The odds are not with them for the reasons JA states.

When CBJ says brick by brick, he is saying the same think JA is saying: it likely will take three full years for the Vols to reach their full potential under CBJ. It is OK to hope for a miracle next year, but don't expect it, and don't fire CBJ if he doesn't deliver it.

Slats writes:

in response to wigmeister:

This writer is an idiot!

A negative idiot! When did John Boy win his Heisman?

rockypop writes:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It doesn't take much to write a negative story about Tennessee these days, and Adams is the master. I'm not going to take much issue with what he writes, because it's mostly fact. And, I'm not going to take issue with the overwhelming majority of negative stories, because he's got a right to write whatever he sees fit.

My issue is his incredible laziness. It's so easy to sit behind a computer and write about all the trials and tribulations that UT is going through right now, because that stuff is low-hanging fruit. Where is the story that we as fans don't see or know about? Where are the little gems that guys like Tom Siler used to find? Where are ANY insights he might have with regard to incoming recruits that aren't common knowledge? Where are glimpses into the UTAD personalities and policies that are impacting all sports?

I could go on and on. I will say that I live in Nashville and listen faithfully to a sports writer named John McClain, who is a weekly commentator on a Nashville sports talk radio show. John writes for the Houston Chronicle and appears each week to comment on the Titans, since he used to cover them when they were in Houston.

His commentary, as his writing for the Chronicle, is crisp, insightful, factual, and most of all always providing a unique perspective and point of view about the Titans. He works his rear end off, does his homework, and is always relevant.

Adams needs to be sentenced to a six-month stint at The Chronicle to see how a real writer does it. Because he'll probably discover you can't find stories by sitting around on your a**, writing about the obvious. It takes actual work to be relevant.

fannotsheep writes:

I think JA is coasting until retirement. Don't think he has much if any access to Vol staff and apparently sees no reason to do more than give his opinions without expending the effort required to learn more than me you or anyone else. Doubt it will be much longer.

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