John Adams: Vols don't know Jack about two-way players

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December is overrun with individual awards in college football.

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johndavid writes:

Why doesn't this guy from UCLA win the Heisman?

Sounds like he has alot better numbers than Woodson?

Wonder why 2 way players are almost never in the running but Woodson beats one of the best QBS of all time?

JJ McCluskey had better numbers as a two way player for UT. I thought I had better mention who he played for since he got so little attention for it.

Of course Woodson only played sparingly on offense, but he is the only player to ever shut down an entire side of the field by himself.

Pickens numbers would have embarrassed Woodsons if Majors had continued to play him on defense all year. I think Pickens could have had the most TD catches and interceptions in the same season.

Wait a minute WHY DIDNT AJ win the Heisman going away last year? 6 TDS ON offense and leading the SEC in tackles? Surely he was close? Why was his two way play suddenly not important?

No one can ever defend giving Woodson the Heisman over anyone. There have been 100s of defensive players as good or better while playing on special teams or offense also and most if not all were never even mentioned as a candidate.

Unless you change the criteria for just one year?

Snapshot writes:

You are preaching to the choir, johndavid. The Heisman has never, and will never again mean anything to me, or probably any Vol fan. You are right about Carl Pickens, he was an incredible athlete who probably could have played any of the skill positions.

SmokeysPup writes:

in response to johndavid:

Why doesn't this guy from UCLA win the Heisman?

Sounds like he has alot better numbers than Woodson?

Wonder why 2 way players are almost never in the running but Woodson beats one of the best QBS of all time?

JJ McCluskey had better numbers as a two way player for UT. I thought I had better mention who he played for since he got so little attention for it.

Of course Woodson only played sparingly on offense, but he is the only player to ever shut down an entire side of the field by himself.

Pickens numbers would have embarrassed Woodsons if Majors had continued to play him on defense all year. I think Pickens could have had the most TD catches and interceptions in the same season.

Wait a minute WHY DIDNT AJ win the Heisman going away last year? 6 TDS ON offense and leading the SEC in tackles? Surely he was close? Why was his two way play suddenly not important?

No one can ever defend giving Woodson the Heisman over anyone. There have been 100s of defensive players as good or better while playing on special teams or offense also and most if not all were never even mentioned as a candidate.

Unless you change the criteria for just one year?

Amen

don't forget about Stanley Morgan. Although he didn't play any defense while here, I'm sure he could have been an All American DB he lined up at Tailback, halfback, wingback, wide receiver, and he even lined up at tight end on some occasions.

Don't even get me started on how little I care about the Heisman trophy anymore. I don't think I could name 3 guys who have won it since Peyton was robbed

allvol8 writes:

in response to Snapshot:

You are preaching to the choir, johndavid. The Heisman has never, and will never again mean anything to me, or probably any Vol fan. You are right about Carl Pickens, he was an incredible athlete who probably could have played any of the skill positions.

Maybe that is why the Heisman is cursed? Seems like the "winners" since then either get injured or not do anything..

murrayvol writes:

in response to johndavid:

Why doesn't this guy from UCLA win the Heisman?

Sounds like he has alot better numbers than Woodson?

Wonder why 2 way players are almost never in the running but Woodson beats one of the best QBS of all time?

JJ McCluskey had better numbers as a two way player for UT. I thought I had better mention who he played for since he got so little attention for it.

Of course Woodson only played sparingly on offense, but he is the only player to ever shut down an entire side of the field by himself.

Pickens numbers would have embarrassed Woodsons if Majors had continued to play him on defense all year. I think Pickens could have had the most TD catches and interceptions in the same season.

Wait a minute WHY DIDNT AJ win the Heisman going away last year? 6 TDS ON offense and leading the SEC in tackles? Surely he was close? Why was his two way play suddenly not important?

No one can ever defend giving Woodson the Heisman over anyone. There have been 100s of defensive players as good or better while playing on special teams or offense also and most if not all were never even mentioned as a candidate.

Unless you change the criteria for just one year?

The folks in Bristol, CN can answer all your questions.....sort of.

The Heisman voters were complicit in this as well, which tells you all one would need to know about the Heisman voters.

vut5686#1405392 writes:

For once, JA makes good points. Often, teams, including the NFL, will draft, "recruit" "the best athletes" and fit them in where the greatest need is. The best athlete on the field needs to be on the field as often and as long as possible. As John says, a team with as many needs as the Vols should utilize whoever gives them the best chance of winning; if that means 60-70 plays on both sides of the ball, so be it. Players run off the field anyway, if they need a breather.

magicbyswh#221420 writes:

I may be wrong but do not recall the vols running the wildcat package this year at all. With the poor QB play all year we may have been better running the wishbone with Pig at QB, and Neal, Lane and whoever at the other back. It could have not been worse than what we did. It would also eat the clock and quicken the game. Sometimes if you don't have the talent you have to be creative. The vols were not creative and the offense was so predictable. I sure hope Butch knows what he is doing.

johnlg00 writes:

If the Vols ever do contemplate having two-way players, 2014 Vol commitment Emanuelle Mosley might be one to look at. Mosley was recruited to play CB for the Vols, where his 4.4 40 time would obviously be a great asset. However, he is also the QB of his undefeated Dudley HS team of Greensboro, NC which plays for a state championship tomorrow. He has accounted for over 2700 yards of combined passing and running and 46 TDs so far this year. He has about a dozen TD runs of 60 yards or more. He is also regarded as the top CB in the state on the best defense in the state. The question is, what is CBJ and staff likely to make of that?

snowpeapod#263184 writes:

I love reading the comments without reading the story so someone correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't we have a defensive back with basically equal numbers as Woodson except we were loaded at receiver and didn't need Terry Fair to play receiver? I believe they were seniors in the same year. The Heisman award is as meaningless as the Tennessee Sportswriter Of The Year award.

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