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lstbodeanvol writes:

replacing Cheek & Hart

8inarow writes:

in response to lstbodeanvol:

replacing Cheek & Hart

Hart just got there!

VFL_Troll_Patrol writes:

1st the QB for sure. Then, EVERYTHING. I don't care much for Heart, it's like he is a mole from Bama. Oh well, So far so good. Keep it up Heart.

"A new leader" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4xteY...
*Im always watching*

volthrunthru#658770 writes:

President
Chancellor
Athletics Director
Head Football Coach
Football Staff

Phillip Fulmer's comments on the new head coach are being interpreted as a rousing endorsement on one of the chatboard sites.

That is clearly not the case, though. Fulmer said clearly the new coach's biggest challenge is national recruiting, something which Fulmer said this coach and his staff had never had to do.

While he may have shot his mouth off, claiming the best staff in the U.S.A. would be here, Jones people so far have brought two from Cincinnati with them---which is low at best;

and they have recruited a couple of three star legacies that would love to come here...but under better recruiters would not have the opportunity.

Because Jones immediately pandered to East TN and West Tn fans who think their recruits are as good as from other states---

and note that Fulmer said Jones MUST recruit nationally, so Fulmer knows better than Jones's goofy comment that sucked up to the Tennessee local high school fans---

so now Jones is trying to save Dooley's recruits---which were ranking 42nd---and bringin a TWO STAR OL from Cincinnati...a THREE STAR WR who runs a 4.6 (the legacy), and an OL from CAL who was not recruited heavily by West Coast schools---a 3star. (A THREE STAR DL coming from CA to TN????????? )

Right, Coach Jones.

Best staff in USA.
Get those TN HS athletes---who would be going to UTMartin, UTC or Arkansas State, if you did not offer them a ship. Now THAT's real recruiting.

Phillip Fulmer is UT loyal, and would not say anything about a succesor head coach at UT for anything. But he clearly knows...and Jones is clearly trying to politick his way into fan approval.

Just win in the SEC, Coach Jones. That's all it takes. Win the SEC East...and that starts by winning recruiting battles for FOUR STAR AND FIVE STAR jocks---NOT 2 or 3 star players.

Really, they hired the Cincinnati coach, who won at Cin...using his predecessor's athletes??? Dooley and company did not recruit well enough to save Jones here, like Kelley did at Cincinnati.

This staff is bad news---just like the basketball staff.

UT Men's sports is in the tank, and will be there for years.

volaholic45 writes:

Getting off their @rse and into a standing position at least.

VolzsFan writes:

I would say point guard and a true pure shooter. Football, that sport died at UT starting in 2009.

TheFuj writes:

A QB for sure. In football, the QB is the start.
Biggest recruiting need is an upgrade in talent. Need 4-5 stars as opposed to all 3 stars. Yes, there will be the bust 4 and 5 star recruits and the 2 and 3 stars that play like a 5 star,but year in and year out the teams with the top recruiting are the teams winning.
Not going to win in the SEC with mostly 3 star players and "coach them up". AL/FL/GA are getting 4-5 stars and coaching them up.

orangecountyvols writes:

Vols,

Did any of you take all morning to read the all too lengthy tale of tears from the troll, Thru and thru?

Typical of trolls.........they try to tell you what someone else said.........in their own style, of course.

But, that's the way of the troll............
'thru and thru.' Blah, blah, blah.........

Orangeblood13 writes:

A. All the above

Vol_in_Mich writes:

in response to orangecountyvols:

Vols,

Did any of you take all morning to read the all too lengthy tale of tears from the troll, Thru and thru?

Typical of trolls.........they try to tell you what someone else said.........in their own style, of course.

But, that's the way of the troll............
'thru and thru.' Blah, blah, blah.........

Yeah, I wasted that time. Good example why some say UT has the worst fans in the country. I don't think that (Gators are worse) but we do have some of the biggest butthole posters on the internet.
On subject, Would love to find a good mobil QB, but the Vols need help everywhere (depth & speed). Get players who want to be here & play football for the Vols and will fit in Coach Jones' system.
It will get better!

HighPlainsVol writes:

Because e are starting from such a low base, Coach Jones and staff must focus on recruiting the best athletes regardless of position. We obviously need a QB and a power RB, but we need help at every position. I think we are a couple of good (actually better than good) recruiting classes away from focusing on specific needs.

takespix writes:

Notre Dame is playing for a national title with 3 star players.This is Brian Kelly's first stint at a major college. Lighten up and give this guy a chance. We have the same talent level. They just need to be taught HOW TO WIN

TitanandVolfan4life writes:

CBJ has to focus on filling the most immediate NEEDS.

When 4 O linemen graduate or leave early we MUST already have O linemen ready to start that have been in the system and learning and beefing up for at least 2 years.

You always MUST fill NEEDS on the roster and not just whatever players you can get.

laMe kiffScum did NOT fill our NEEDS which is why CDD was stuck starting so many freshmen or JUCO players that we'd only have for a year or 2 before they left.

Most people are clueless about how a college 4 year recruiting rotation has to work in order to always have players with 2 years in the program ready to start no later than their Junior year.

Only the very few really great and smart 4* and 5* kids can start sooner and ONLY then if they're smart enough to learn the system fast.

VFL...GBO!!!

SouthPaVol writes:

in response to Vol_in_Mich:

Yeah, I wasted that time. Good example why some say UT has the worst fans in the country. I don't think that (Gators are worse) but we do have some of the biggest butthole posters on the internet.
On subject, Would love to find a good mobil QB, but the Vols need help everywhere (depth & speed). Get players who want to be here & play football for the Vols and will fit in Coach Jones' system.
It will get better!

10-4 on the wasted time. Some of these posts...I scratch my head.

After three losing seasons, a "resurrected" GEN Neyland would have a hard time signing big name recruits to UT. I consider Graham and Thigpen to be two of the best college recruiters anywhere; notwithstanding, if we land a 5-star, it will be close to a miracle. but, on to a brighter subject.

I'm a big JW fan, but he will be pushed for the starting job at QB. Our redshirt freshman Peterman and the true freshman are both quality QBs. I was not a Bray fan, although his arm was strong. Worley was clocked at over 50 MPH as well, which all agree is a strong arm. And with a former gatorade player of the year, I like our chances at QB.

We have the best returning OL in the SEC, that means all of football. The best defensive end in football, Clowney, said Tiny was the best tackle he faced all year. We need one great running back and one stud defensive end. I am optimistic about next year, but too bad Oregon's Kelly didn't go pro.

My left-handed comment: Worley and Patterson played high school ball together, and as of today CP has not declared. just sayin'

agentorange writes:

Trolls are out on this string. Sad little things, they are.

sly_stone99#434111 writes:

Point Guard...oops sorry this is a football thread.

KVCrockett writes:

Cant we give CBJ a month to see how he finishes on signing day ?

volthrunthru#658770 writes:

in response to orangecountyvols:

Vols,

Did any of you take all morning to read the all too lengthy tale of tears from the troll, Thru and thru?

Typical of trolls.........they try to tell you what someone else said.........in their own style, of course.

But, that's the way of the troll............
'thru and thru.' Blah, blah, blah.........

No troll at all. Vol fan since Bowden Wyatt was HC. What I said is accurate.

Call names. Disparage. Make fun. That's what everybody who cannot refute truth does...stir up emotion.

When Jones recruits top athletes like Phillip Fulmer did, and starts pulling in recruits in the top 10 to 12 classes, then he has a prayer---if he is ale to coach at this oevel, to win the SEC East---not the SEC---the SEC East. That is provided he brings in coaches who have excelled at that level...

When that happe3ns, what I said will be inaccurate. Not before.

Trolls reply with inane comments like "Blah,Blah,Blah" and call names, by definition.

You, bud, have your picture beside the word in Webster's.

volthrunthru#658770 writes:

in response to SouthPaVol:

10-4 on the wasted time. Some of these posts...I scratch my head.

After three losing seasons, a "resurrected" GEN Neyland would have a hard time signing big name recruits to UT. I consider Graham and Thigpen to be two of the best college recruiters anywhere; notwithstanding, if we land a 5-star, it will be close to a miracle. but, on to a brighter subject.

I'm a big JW fan, but he will be pushed for the starting job at QB. Our redshirt freshman Peterman and the true freshman are both quality QBs. I was not a Bray fan, although his arm was strong. Worley was clocked at over 50 MPH as well, which all agree is a strong arm. And with a former gatorade player of the year, I like our chances at QB.

We have the best returning OL in the SEC, that means all of football. The best defensive end in football, Clowney, said Tiny was the best tackle he faced all year. We need one great running back and one stud defensive end. I am optimistic about next year, but too bad Oregon's Kelly didn't go pro.

My left-handed comment: Worley and Patterson played high school ball together, and as of today CP has not declared. just sayin'

SouthPaVol...

We had one of the best returning offensive lines in the SEC last year. You and I can agree to see things differently.

Thank you for discussing issues, and facts---as I did---rather than call names, etc.

Your comments are appreciated.

volthrunthru#658770 writes:

in response to Vol_in_Mich:

Yeah, I wasted that time. Good example why some say UT has the worst fans in the country. I don't think that (Gators are worse) but we do have some of the biggest butthole posters on the internet.
On subject, Would love to find a good mobil QB, but the Vols need help everywhere (depth & speed). Get players who want to be here & play football for the Vols and will fit in Coach Jones' system.
It will get better!

You state the "Vols need help everywhere) (including a good mobile quarterback.

You can get all the good mobile QB's in the country, and if you keep recruiting 2-star OL's...a mobile QB won't make it past the 2nd series of the 1st quarter.

There are dozens of kids as large and athletic in TN as the guy from Ohio---and NOT 1 IN 10 IS GOING TO MATURE BY HIS SENIOR YEAR TO BE ABLE TO PLAY AS AN SEC TACKLE.

To do what UT has historically done under Phillip Fulmer, Johnny Majors or Doug Dickey, these coaches need to be signing 4-star and 5-star players...with about 10-15% of the overall class as 3-stars---who will be redshirted in order to be able to mature.

The State of Tennessee does not have those players. Jones tells reporters and East Tennesseans and Memphis people that he thinks Tennessee produces that kind of player in-state.

Enter Phillip Fulmer---Mister in-the-living-room, National Champion 1998, and a dozen years of Top 10 teams---saying that is not true, that UT HAS TO RECRUIT NATIONALLY.

What exactly is wrong about that. Is a bad fan somebody who wants UT to excel...as it did before the kind of administrators and athletics directors UT has had for over 12 years destroyed the athletics department.

From a business standpoint---every five years, UT is spending $1-BILLION dollars to deliver what coaches who go 3-and-out...or 1 and gone...or never won anywhere but second-tier scvhools.

I am not the one with the problem, here, bud. You, and Orange Country Vol may want to read some facts about The University of Tennessee Athletics before calling names and acting superior. I can assure you that in both your cases doing so would not waste time.

Neither of you is superior, obviously, from what you post.

volfan1202 writes:

H. All of the above.

Still sitting in the sewer of the SEC in recruiting. Rivals ranked #10 in conference. The question isn't just what positions to recruit, more importantly, is CBJ getting anybody worth a dang.

CBJ... where are the 4 and 5 star recruits?

lstbodeanvol writes:

in response to powerTbaby:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

In one week of recruiting by Jones and his staff, Tennessee has moved up from 42nd to 25th ..Go Vols !!!!!!!!!!!

HighPlainsVol writes:

in response to takespix:

Notre Dame is playing for a national title with 3 star players.This is Brian Kelly's first stint at a major college. Lighten up and give this guy a chance. We have the same talent level. They just need to be taught HOW TO WIN

You're kidding--I hope. ND is probably the easiest school for recruiters. The 2010 class had 9-4*/0-5*, 2011 8-4*/2-5* and 2012 8-4*/1-5*.

gc_scvol writes:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

President
Chancellor
Athletics Director
Head Football Coach
Football Staff

Phillip Fulmer's comments on the new head coach are being interpreted as a rousing endorsement on one of the chatboard sites.

That is clearly not the case, though. Fulmer said clearly the new coach's biggest challenge is national recruiting, something which Fulmer said this coach and his staff had never had to do.

While he may have shot his mouth off, claiming the best staff in the U.S.A. would be here, Jones people so far have brought two from Cincinnati with them---which is low at best;

and they have recruited a couple of three star legacies that would love to come here...but under better recruiters would not have the opportunity.

Because Jones immediately pandered to East TN and West Tn fans who think their recruits are as good as from other states---

and note that Fulmer said Jones MUST recruit nationally, so Fulmer knows better than Jones's goofy comment that sucked up to the Tennessee local high school fans---

so now Jones is trying to save Dooley's recruits---which were ranking 42nd---and bringin a TWO STAR OL from Cincinnati...a THREE STAR WR who runs a 4.6 (the legacy), and an OL from CAL who was not recruited heavily by West Coast schools---a 3star. (A THREE STAR DL coming from CA to TN????????? )

Right, Coach Jones.

Best staff in USA.
Get those TN HS athletes---who would be going to UTMartin, UTC or Arkansas State, if you did not offer them a ship. Now THAT's real recruiting.

Phillip Fulmer is UT loyal, and would not say anything about a succesor head coach at UT for anything. But he clearly knows...and Jones is clearly trying to politick his way into fan approval.

Just win in the SEC, Coach Jones. That's all it takes. Win the SEC East...and that starts by winning recruiting battles for FOUR STAR AND FIVE STAR jocks---NOT 2 or 3 star players.

Really, they hired the Cincinnati coach, who won at Cin...using his predecessor's athletes??? Dooley and company did not recruit well enough to save Jones here, like Kelley did at Cincinnati.

This staff is bad news---just like the basketball staff.

UT Men's sports is in the tank, and will be there for years.

Come on out Phil we know you're in there.

volthrunthru#658770 writes:

in response to TitanandVolfan4life:

CBJ has to focus on filling the most immediate NEEDS.

When 4 O linemen graduate or leave early we MUST already have O linemen ready to start that have been in the system and learning and beefing up for at least 2 years.

You always MUST fill NEEDS on the roster and not just whatever players you can get.

laMe kiffScum did NOT fill our NEEDS which is why CDD was stuck starting so many freshmen or JUCO players that we'd only have for a year or 2 before they left.

Most people are clueless about how a college 4 year recruiting rotation has to work in order to always have players with 2 years in the program ready to start no later than their Junior year.

Only the very few really great and smart 4* and 5* kids can start sooner and ONLY then if they're smart enough to learn the system fast.

VFL...GBO!!!

Thank you. You understand. THAT is the truth...and people trying to obscure that truth do not change the fact that UT Football is in deep trouble, if this guy and his "best staff in the USA" think Tennessee high school players and 2-star athletes from outside Tennessee are going to be able to compete at all in the SEC, much less in that time window you outlined.

And a coach or coaching staff that believe what has been said about instate recruiting's being able to win in the SEC, or who recruits 2-star athletes from anywhere---instate or outside---is not able to win in the SEC.

Terry Fair and the guy who gave us "The Run" have played in the SEC...and one of 'em has position coached successfully in it.

Hopefully hiring them is not just a gambit to appease UT Fans.

UT Fans want wins---the SEC East, and in the Championship game. And that takes 4 and 5 star players.

Period.

Thank you for understanding the truth. Notice also that those who holler "troll" are not able to put down the truth when multiple somebodies understand it.

GO VOLS!

EasternKYVOLSFAN writes:

Dont know about everybody else, but I'm really Glad to see Bray, Patterson, and Hunter gone...They were over rated bigtime.Thats just 3 more guys gone that wont remind us of the dooley era! This way it gives us a chance to start with fresh guys.But I guess we'll have to wait and see what BJ has cooked up...GO VOLS !!!!

HopeisNotaCourseofAction writes:

in response to takespix:

Notre Dame is playing for a national title with 3 star players.This is Brian Kelly's first stint at a major college. Lighten up and give this guy a chance. We have the same talent level. They just need to be taught HOW TO WIN

Yeah, and how did that work out for them?

Sure hope we can get a big, quality running back this year. It is impressive to see rbs like Lacy and Yeldon break tackles and not go down at the first arm tackle that they run into. Stars don't matter my arse - Richardson 5*, Lacy 4* & Yeldon 5*. Maybe after ua, usc, tx, uf and uga get what they want, there will be 1 left for us this year.

BadBob70 writes:

So much negativity. CBJ obviously understands how important the work in the gym is. Nothing matters more IMHO.

CBJ understands the importance of developing Tennessee high school players, and getting them to Knoxville. Do you all think 4's and 5's just happen because of natural ability in random places around the country? Could it be that great football players come from hard work and good coaching starting at, say age 13?

Yes, a national recruiting program is mandatory. However, equally important is developing kids who become VOLS before they turn 10.

tennezz writes:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

Thank you. You understand. THAT is the truth...and people trying to obscure that truth do not change the fact that UT Football is in deep trouble, if this guy and his "best staff in the USA" think Tennessee high school players and 2-star athletes from outside Tennessee are going to be able to compete at all in the SEC, much less in that time window you outlined.

And a coach or coaching staff that believe what has been said about instate recruiting's being able to win in the SEC, or who recruits 2-star athletes from anywhere---instate or outside---is not able to win in the SEC.

Terry Fair and the guy who gave us "The Run" have played in the SEC...and one of 'em has position coached successfully in it.

Hopefully hiring them is not just a gambit to appease UT Fans.

UT Fans want wins---the SEC East, and in the Championship game. And that takes 4 and 5 star players.

Period.

Thank you for understanding the truth. Notice also that those who holler "troll" are not able to put down the truth when multiple somebodies understand it.

GO VOLS!

You make it sound like 2* players are the only thing CBJ is trying to sign and he only has commits from 1 maybe 2 and they are 3* on some of the sites! It seems that you do not have a clue about what is going on!

tennezz writes:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

You state the "Vols need help everywhere) (including a good mobile quarterback.

You can get all the good mobile QB's in the country, and if you keep recruiting 2-star OL's...a mobile QB won't make it past the 2nd series of the 1st quarter.

There are dozens of kids as large and athletic in TN as the guy from Ohio---and NOT 1 IN 10 IS GOING TO MATURE BY HIS SENIOR YEAR TO BE ABLE TO PLAY AS AN SEC TACKLE.

To do what UT has historically done under Phillip Fulmer, Johnny Majors or Doug Dickey, these coaches need to be signing 4-star and 5-star players...with about 10-15% of the overall class as 3-stars---who will be redshirted in order to be able to mature.

The State of Tennessee does not have those players. Jones tells reporters and East Tennesseans and Memphis people that he thinks Tennessee produces that kind of player in-state.

Enter Phillip Fulmer---Mister in-the-living-room, National Champion 1998, and a dozen years of Top 10 teams---saying that is not true, that UT HAS TO RECRUIT NATIONALLY.

What exactly is wrong about that. Is a bad fan somebody who wants UT to excel...as it did before the kind of administrators and athletics directors UT has had for over 12 years destroyed the athletics department.

From a business standpoint---every five years, UT is spending $1-BILLION dollars to deliver what coaches who go 3-and-out...or 1 and gone...or never won anywhere but second-tier scvhools.

I am not the one with the problem, here, bud. You, and Orange Country Vol may want to read some facts about The University of Tennessee Athletics before calling names and acting superior. I can assure you that in both your cases doing so would not waste time.

Neither of you is superior, obviously, from what you post.

Just how do you suggest that he bring in 4 & 5* recruits when he has had 2 or 3 weeks to recruit them and every other coach has 2 or 3 years? We can not start judging his recruiting skills until next year!

JonGrudensAgent writes:

In order of priority: CB, WR, RB, LB.

Dooley signed a bunch of DB's that are much better suited for safety than CB. There is not enough speed in the back end of the defense to cover mistakes.

This program hasn't had a Richardson or even Lacey caliber RB since Jamal Lewis. And I don't care what Foster is doing in the NFL.

We saw what kind of difference a guy like Patterson can make at WR. I'd like to see Jones go the JUCO route and try to strike gold at this position like Dooley did.

Good skill position players will be needed to cover up the deficiencies of a first time starting QB.

This program hasn't had a great LB since Mayo. There needs to be someone who can actually make plays and disrupt an offense with pressure on the QB or get a game changing fumble.

Look what Clowney did for his team in their bowl game. Johnson is a very good tackler but is more of a run and pursue guy than one that gets in the back field.

JonGrudensAgent writes:

in response to tennezz:

Just how do you suggest that he bring in 4 & 5* recruits when he has had 2 or 3 weeks to recruit them and every other coach has 2 or 3 years? We can not start judging his recruiting skills until next year!

I agree Jones is behind the eight ball but he should have been in on some higher profile guys at Cincinnati already.

He should be able to flip some of them now that he is carrying the bigger carrot of an SEC school.

Cincinnati has two guys that the Vols and other SEC schools were in on on their current roster already in Munchie Legeaux and Kenbrall Thomkins. I am sure he was going after some guys for Cincinnati that were being pursued by SEC schools this year as well.

Fair or not, Jones should absolutely be judged by what he can do under difficult circumstances.

I don't expect miracles but I will be sorely disappointed if he fills this class out with 2 and 3 star guys just to sign a class.

There isn't any grace period in college football and especially the SEC anymore.

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