John Adams: CAK QB Charlie High still thinking big despite recruiting rejections

CAK's Charlie High (12) scores a touchdown in the court quarter taking the score to 47-14 as Milan's Chad Warden (11) defends during the Div. I Class 3A championship at the TSSAA 2012 BlueCross Bowl at Tennessee Tech University in Cookeville, Tenn., Friday, Nov. 30, 2012. CAK won 48-14 over Milan. (ADAM BRIMER/NEWS SENTINEL)

Photo by Adam Brimer, Knoxville News Sentinel

CAK's Charlie High (12) scores a touchdown in the court quarter taking the score to 47-14 as Milan's Chad Warden (11) defends during the Div. I Class 3A championship at the TSSAA 2012 BlueCross Bowl at Tennessee Tech University in Cookeville, Tenn., Friday, Nov. 30, 2012. CAK won 48-14 over Milan. (ADAM BRIMER/NEWS SENTINEL)

Charlie High once thought the recruiting process might be fun.

Less than a month from national signing day, the record-setting senior quarterback from Christian Academy of Knoxville thinks differently.

"It's not much fun," he said. "Maybe it would be for a five-star (recruit)."

He hasn't given up on the process, though. He hasn't given up on his dream team, either.

Long before High had his first 5,000-yard passing season at CAK, he wanted to play football at the University of Tennessee, where his father, Bill, was a standout hurdler.

But UT didn't evaluate him much differently than the scores of other major-college programs to whom High's high school coach, Rusty Bradley, has sent video.

"Ultimately, Coach (Derek) Dooley pulled the plug," High said. "Coach (Jim) Chaney called me and said, 'We're going in a different direction.' "

Dooley was fired before the end of the season. Chaney, with whom High has developed a close relationship, subsequently was hired as an offensive coordinator on coach Bret Bielema's new staff at Arkansas.

The rejections haven't sapped High's motivation. In fact, they seemingly have bolstered his resolve.

If major-college recruiters had deemed High incapable of playing at that level, perhaps he could have accepted their evaluation and committed to either UT Martin or Tennessee Tech, who already have offered him a scholarship.

It's not about talent. It's about size.

Or, as High has heard more than once, "We love you, but … "

The "but" is about 6-foot-2. High is just taller than 6 feet or just under depending on whether you measure him in shoes or his bare feet.

Bradley said Alabama assistant coach Lance Thompson told him if "Charlie was 6-3, he'd be a top-10 quarterback."

The size issue isn't all about length. College recruiters also question the "thickness" of a quarterback who weighs 176 pounds and wonder if he could withstand the punishment of college defenses.

I don't know how much thicker High would become through the wonders of a college strength, conditioning and nutrition program. I don't know if he will have a growth spurt as NFL star Aaron Rodgers did in junior college after being ignored by recruiters coming out of high school.

I do know he can throw a football with uncanny accuracy, which distinguishes him from most quarterbacks of any size. In two full seasons, plus one start as a sophomore, High completed 74.4 percent of his passes for more than 10,000 yards while leading his team to a pair of state championships.

News Sentinel prep editor Jesse Smithey, who has watched High numerous times, marvels at his football instincts, poise in the pocket, and his ability to perform under pressure.

"He made some plays against Alcoa (in the playoffs), that I will never forget," Smithey said.

High's coach is his biggest advocate. He sent video of his quarterback to 125 schools last January. That was just for starters. He even mailed video of a spring scrimmage and 7-on-7 play in the summer.

"I'm really frustrated with it," Bradley said. "It's not about being good on film anymore. It's about them getting you in their camp and them liking you in their camp.

"One school, they called and wanted to know if I had any kids (who were college prospects). I knew I had already sent them film. They're not looking at it."

High hasn't lost his patience or hope.

He wonders if his connection with Chaney might help him at Arkansas or if the coaching change at UT could work in his favor. He wonders if the volatile nature of recruiting could open a major-college door at the eleventh hour. Never mind the circumstances or how late the offer came. He wouldn't feel slighted.

"I would be grateful," he said.

John Adams is a senior columnist. He may be reached at 865-342-6284 or adamsj@knoxnews.com. Follow him at http://twitter.com/johnadamskns.

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Dalton writes:

Sounds like a heartwarming underdog story...avoid like the plague

TrackVol1975 writes:

Bill High was one of my teammates at UT and one heck of a hurdler himself. He made All-American several times and was a tough competitor.

If his son has near the heart of his dad, then he will be a good player for someone, and I only could hope it would be UT. Condredge Holloway was about 5-9 and didn't do too badly for us.

ArmyDad writes:

in response to TrackVol1975:

Bill High was one of my teammates at UT and one heck of a hurdler himself. He made All-American several times and was a tough competitor.

If his son has near the heart of his dad, then he will be a good player for someone, and I only could hope it would be UT. Condredge Holloway was about 5-9 and didn't do too badly for us.

Condredge Holloway also played in an era where he had 225 pound offensive linemen in front of him blocking 225 pound defensive linemen and 190 pound linebackers. It's a totally different day now.

Charlie High has been an incredible high school quarterback, but the reality is that in this day and time size is an issue in major college football.

That said, what ever school ends up with him will be getting a terrific football player, and an even better person.

lknvol writes:

Anybody ever hear of Russell Wilson?

WetumpkaThumpa writes:

Johnny Manziel is only 6'1"

mocsandvolsfan writes:

Good luck Mr. High. It wouldn't bother me if we took you. At the very least we could use you on the practice squad. And maybe first team. I don't know and you really can't judge a book by the cover.

DRORANGELOVE writes:

I tried my best to get UT to recruit Whit Taylor back in the late 1970s ( 5'10' 175 lbs ). I was told he was to small plus he had had shoulder surgery and the staff didn't want to take a chance on him. The rest is history, he was all SEC and ran up 985 yards total offense against UT his last 2 games against UT. He also passed for 10 TDs in ONE game in arena football, a record that stood for many years.
My point, He always loved UT and wanted to play for them but never had the chance but proved himself to be a WINNER because he had the desire and heart. This kid seems to be cut out of the same mold. He WANTS to play for UT and has a lot of heart. I had rather have a kid like him ( who will only get better ) than some super star who you have to beg to come to Tennessee and will be gone in 2 years.

movol53 writes:

Just remember the current QB at San Fran 49er's had only one school recruit him out of high school. Look how that has turned out. A man with heart and a dream can go far if given the opportunity. GO VOLS!!!!

NGage writes:

UT should ask him to come in as an invited walk-on, and tell him they will give him a chance to prove himself for a future scholarship.

lofter writes:

Isn't Drew Brees only 6 ft? I have seen him stand on his toes to throw a pass.

joseph_mccarthy writes:

Hey Charlie, UT Knoxville isn't the only game in town! Heck there are many more attractive schools than UT. Of course it does have one of THE ugliest campuses around.

pomp_and_circumstance writes:

And imagine the "Rudy" movie material! The Runt that Rose, Rocky Top High... And with our imaginations inflamed, ponder what John Adams has done here. He has actually gone out and dug up some sports news, sort of. If he didn't filch it from the waste can of that loathsome 247.

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to WetumpkaThumpa:

Johnny Manziel is only 6'1"

Zackly..

tvol71 writes:

in response to joseph_mccarthy:

Hey Charlie, UT Knoxville isn't the only game in town! Heck there are many more attractive schools than UT. Of course it does have one of THE ugliest campuses around.

We are talking about Tennessee here, not the Florida campus.

govolsdid writes:

Remember the kid from Maryville (Alcoa I think) that went to Kentucky that Fulmer did not offer a scholly to until it was too late? Cobb, now with the Packers, take a chance Butch you said you would keep Tn. talent at home. Go Big Orange.

DonK37920 writes:

Lots of nice comments about his dad on here. Lots of nice people pulling for the underdog story. I trust the coaches evaluation. Not only our coaches but all the other big college coaches that have passed. All are coming to the same conclusion. That is not to say that he can't go somewhere small and if he proves himself there, then he can transfer to a bigger school.

bobferguson3#214898 writes:

I can hear it now! Rocky Top Runt Scores!

volfan1202 writes:

Hey Butch Jones, please do not recruit this very talented local young QB.

Please keep reaching for the stars and get us some more 2 star players like the volleyball playing tight end JUCO you just snagged out of California that has a whopping record of 1 touchdown.

Heck, if you recruit really hard, you might be able to get us a one star chess champion from podunk Idaho.

BruisedOrange writes:

From the coaching perspective, each coach has a limited line of credit when it comes to recommending recruits.

You have some kid you're really impressed with, that you believe in, but whose attributes are not quantifiable. There's nothing about him you can put on paper that will impress your fellow coaches. If you insist on signing that kid, you're using up your credit. If he works out, you'll get more credit--one to three years later!

But until he actually proves himself (and your judgement), that "undersized" kid is an albatross around your professional neck. Your recruiting credit doesn't take near the hit if that undersized becomes a star for someone else, because everyone on your coaching staff agreed, "He's just too small." Shared blame is no blame.

Credit-wise, it's much easier to take a chance on a big kid with discipline issues ("Hey--we gave him a chance; the kid failed, not us!") than one who's "small" from day one.

THAT SAID... why not sign him? Every coach has seen undersized players make it all the way to the top. We have a new staff who needs to rebuild relationships with area high schools. Unless they're in-the-hunt for some "can't miss" QB, I think they'll eventually offer, or ask him to walk-on with a scholly dangled.

So often it's a lose/lose with players who always wanted to play for a particular school. Frequently their dream is fulfilled on signing day, with a subsequent loss of motivation. But shun them, and you double their motivation. Then they'll sign someplace where they can return to gut you in front of 100,000 home fans!

hueypilot writes:

Maybe we could give the scholarship that was just tossed in the can by alphabet Watson to this kid who would , no doubt ,give his all for Tennessee. We'll look back on this kid and wish we had. I'd like to see a few more Andy Kelly , Dale Jones, Larry Seivers types in the place of Janzen Jackson, nukeese Richardson and Da'Ricks

docwater#225789 writes:

Bill High was a fraternity brother of mine at UT. As I recall, I thought he was a tall fellow, long legs to get over the hurdles, so I am surprised folks are picking on his son's height. That said, Bill was a fine fellow. I for one would like to see UT recruit more players who want to be here because they love the place, not because they think it will help their NFL stock. I recall a 5th year senior, Darrly Dickey who stepped up and did a great job even though he was not considered good enough to play the other 4 years he was in college. I vote to give Charlie a chance.

kwcoach writes:

in response to Dalton:

Sounds like a heartwarming underdog story...avoid like the plague

That's right. We don't need kids who want to play for Tennessee. We need to get more kids that we have to beg. Those kids who may leave if they aren't "taken care of." How has that worked out? The kid passed for 10,000 yards. Let him walk on. Take a look at him on the field against our defense. Then you will know something.

OrangeBloodFlood writes:

in response to hueypilot:

Maybe we could give the scholarship that was just tossed in the can by alphabet Watson to this kid who would , no doubt ,give his all for Tennessee. We'll look back on this kid and wish we had. I'd like to see a few more Andy Kelly , Dale Jones, Larry Seivers types in the place of Janzen Jackson, nukeese Richardson and Da'Ricks

Thank YOU ! I've always said I'd rather have a 3 star with orange blood than most any 5 star with the exception of course of a 5 star "with" orange blood, of which Vonn Bell is.His last visit is to Knox. and Butch still has an in-home scheduled so lets hope for the best! VFL

Theo writes:

There is no "let him walk on". He can walk on with or without the coaches asking. He is looking for a scholarship.
This kid maybe the answer to all of our problems but statistically speaking probably not. There are a lot of very good, very small quarterbacks out there. With O lines standing on ave 6-4 a small quarterback has huge challenges. Granted there are outliers. I'm not diminishing "want to" but just because a kid grew up in your backyard does not make him a good use of a scholarship.
Some of the posters on here think we could win the SEC with a team out of Knox county and the NCAA with an all Tenn roster.

MtnMike91 writes:

in response to FuckFuckFuckADuckScrewAKangaroo:

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I completely agree. We've seen how some of the higher-rated 4 & 5 star prospects have turned out over the years. Hopefully the new staff will give him a look. The kid sure seems like he can play.

chipmurphy461 writes:

We have got to get off of the Randal Cobb story! From what I've been told UT recruited him hard and he wanted to go to UT. On a visit to UT he was with some current players at the time who got in trouble while he was with them. He did nothing wrong, but decided he didn't want to be around that so he went to Kentucky. Randal Cobb is a great kid and a 1 in 100,000,000,000 football player! But we can't always say "recruit every local kid because of him getting away"!!!!!

agentorange writes:

Tennessee really F'd up by not hiring John Adams as the new coach AND AD. He's apparently great at calling plays, hiring/firing coaches and now recruiting.

RashaadSalabeb writes:

You can't go wrong with a kid like this on your team.

Go Vols!

FEARinSEC writes:

Good grief, the comments on GVX show less and less intelligence every day. LOL!!

Dalton writes:

in response to RashaadSalabeb:

You can't go wrong with a kid like this on your team.

Go Vols!

Bet you could go wrong...I love the underdog story as much as the next guy..but everyone posting on this subject doesn't have to answer for a wasted scholarship...if you want to argue Woody Quinn knock yourself out. CBJ has to evaluate talent and decide if if a prospect is worth the risk...you want the job?...fine put in the GA time build your resume as an assistant coach and coordinator. Get hired as a head coach at a lower tier school and have success...piggyback that up the chain until you get the Volunteers job..tick tock tick tock better get to it bUTch has about a decade and a half head start on you so you probably don't have the time to get that offer to Charlie High but you got the basic blueprint

MilitaryBrat writes:

in response to agentorange:

Tennessee really F'd up by not hiring John Adams as the new coach AND AD. He's apparently great at calling plays, hiring/firing coaches and now recruiting.

It's funny here John is praising a young local Kid, But if Jones offered him a scolly, Adams would be the first one critizing it.

oldster writes:

in response to FuckFuckFuckADuckScrewAKangaroo:

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It is well to point out that Flutie not only survived, but prospered, in higher leagues than college where the players were bigger and faster than even the SEC. I would also point out that Charlie High is VERY mobile. He may not be as fast as his dad was, but he certainly is fast enough to be effective in an offense such as Jones has run in the past. Even if Charlie is unable to compete in the SEC, he would not be a wasted scholarship because he would be as good a leader as any non-starter could be. He would work so hard that it would make others feel guilty for not meeting his standard. Now, if UT has enough 4 or 5 stars to fill out the rest of their quota for the year, okay, but if not, Charlie HIgh would be more than acceptable.

TTUEagles writes:

Just go to TTU! He'll be loved unconditionally here, get a great education and play great football. OVC champs in '11 and FCS isn't as bad of a drop-off as some think. TTU now has 2 on NFL roster, a former player as HC of a Canadian League team, former coach heading up the Falcons, etc. I am looking forward to cheering for Charlie next year!!!
Good luck, UT fans - pulling for you when not playing TTU in something...

johnlg00 writes:

in response to FuckFuckFuckADuckScrewAKangaroo:

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While I somewhat disagree with the idea that UT has "NOTHING" at QB, I certainly agree that Charlie should get a shot at UT if only as an invited walk-on. This is just another case of college recruiters becoming overly-enamored of "metrics" in evaluating prospects. I agree with some of the comparisons some have made on here, but I would like to offer another: Danny Wuerffel. I don't think Wuerffel was all that big and no one accused him of having a rocket arm. However, he was uncannily accurate, a high-quality kid in morals and academics, a leader, and a good teammate. True, he didn't make it as a pro, but he was just what his team needed at Florida. While it is nice to have pro-quality talent and size, this is still COLLEGE football, and guys who never make it in the pros can still be winners in college. If Charlie gets his shot and can't make it, so be it. If he does, he would be a player to make all UT fans proud. A coaching staff can't really be serious about wanting to lock up its state if a kid like Charlie High is ignored and disrespected. BTW, "little" Doug Flutie lasted about 20 years in the NFL if memory serves.

exlineman writes:

What so many of you fans are forgetting some kids from high school to college take a growth spell and grow 3- 4 inches.

the young man has the heart to play for the vols and one comment that stood out with me, was his accuracy of completions. This kind of accuracy is better than most of the big boys. What was Bray's high school stats and others?
I say give the young man a chance. I notice another local quarterback that strayed to Vanderbilt and wanted to play for UT. You might remember Pat Robinette, who is doing quite well according to an article written this week. I think either Alcoa or Maryville had a kicker that we failed to get is doing great somewhere else.

These 4 and 5 star players that everybody seems to want so bad aren't always 5 star players. I beleive we have experienced that on several occasions. Give me a 3 star anyday over Darick Rogers and some of the failures who have failed here at Tn.

mountainbrook writes:

in response to volfan1202:

Hey Butch Jones, please do not recruit this very talented local young QB.

Please keep reaching for the stars and get us some more 2 star players like the volleyball playing tight end JUCO you just snagged out of California that has a whopping record of 1 touchdown.

Heck, if you recruit really hard, you might be able to get us a one star chess champion from podunk Idaho.

I'll give you a big hint: GRUDEN isn't coming!

johnlg00 writes:

And speaking of Charlie High and local players, what about the Howell kid--I think that's his name--that Charlie threw to? I believe he set the Tennessee HS career record for pass receptions. He too has been called too small and too slow, but the kid can get open in a phone booth and has great hands. Some posters have made a good point that college coaches feel they will be unfairly penalized by fans for recruiting marginal players who don't pan out while getting a free pass for signing guys who everybody says "can't miss", even though some of them DO miss all the time! But when all is said and done, a coach has to have the courage of his convictions and live with his decisions whether they work out right or not. As someone else said, in effect, if Butch is going to sign 2-stars, why not take a chance on LOCAL 2-stars who grew up bleeding Orange? Maybe that kid's coach will remember that, and when he has a 5-star, he'll do his best to steer him to UT.

gogovols2002#222335 writes:

in response to ArmyDad:

Condredge Holloway also played in an era where he had 225 pound offensive linemen in front of him blocking 225 pound defensive linemen and 190 pound linebackers. It's a totally different day now.

Charlie High has been an incredible high school quarterback, but the reality is that in this day and time size is an issue in major college football.

That said, what ever school ends up with him will be getting a terrific football player, and an even better person.

Can you think of the NFL QB that was smaller than High..he retired about 5 years ago

exlineman writes:

in response to johnlg00:

And speaking of Charlie High and local players, what about the Howell kid--I think that's his name--that Charlie threw to? I believe he set the Tennessee HS career record for pass receptions. He too has been called too small and too slow, but the kid can get open in a phone booth and has great hands. Some posters have made a good point that college coaches feel they will be unfairly penalized by fans for recruiting marginal players who don't pan out while getting a free pass for signing guys who everybody says "can't miss", even though some of them DO miss all the time! But when all is said and done, a coach has to have the courage of his convictions and live with his decisions whether they work out right or not. As someone else said, in effect, if Butch is going to sign 2-stars, why not take a chance on LOCAL 2-stars who grew up bleeding Orange? Maybe that kid's coach will remember that, and when he has a 5-star, he'll do his best to steer him to UT.

John, If we do offer this young man a scholarship, some of the biggies most likely will follow suit. It seems some coaches are afraid to make that first move. This young man might be 6ft. 4in. in a couple of years. Isn't that what happened on the quarterback several years out of knoxville that went on to play NFL, beleve might have been Pennington, but not sure.

Some one needs to step up to the plate for UT and go after this young man, his accuracy alone should be a big thing in his recruitment. With the right offensive line a kid like this can play. Don't beleive Fran Tarkington with Minnesota years ago was that tall, along with Roger Staubaugh of the Cowboys. There is a standard that college coaches seem to go by and they hate to admit that they can be wrong on many occasions.

That is just like basketball, raise the goal two feet and the big man will be lost and short guys could score at will from outside. Two many coaches want to stack inside, when sometimes a guard from outside can fill the net up, just like some of the great shooters at UT in the past along with their great foul shooting.

jack4444 writes:

in response to NGage:

UT should ask him to come in as an invited walk-on, and tell him they will give him a chance to prove himself for a future scholarship.

Absolutely. Why not? If he declines, then at least you offered a local kid. If he accepts, who knows?

Seems like height is not as important in a spread and mobility is more important.

Witch_Doctors writes:

Witch Doctor not hating on this kid and if he wants to walk on and try as NGage and Jack4444 suggested. Witch Doctor worried about recruiting that ONLY offers 2-3* kids..(?) Witch Doctor not a star gazer but EVEN Dooley went after big fish. Witch Doctor QUICKLY losing faith in Coaches that dont believe enough to even OFFER some big fish a scholly?????? Witch Doctor not being TOO TOO negative but this a GREAT concern..we dont need 25 3*'s to refill what we are losing..Witch Doctor just sayin'
Bones never lie.

hueypilot writes:

in response to johnlg00:

And speaking of Charlie High and local players, what about the Howell kid--I think that's his name--that Charlie threw to? I believe he set the Tennessee HS career record for pass receptions. He too has been called too small and too slow, but the kid can get open in a phone booth and has great hands. Some posters have made a good point that college coaches feel they will be unfairly penalized by fans for recruiting marginal players who don't pan out while getting a free pass for signing guys who everybody says "can't miss", even though some of them DO miss all the time! But when all is said and done, a coach has to have the courage of his convictions and live with his decisions whether they work out right or not. As someone else said, in effect, if Butch is going to sign 2-stars, why not take a chance on LOCAL 2-stars who grew up bleeding Orange? Maybe that kid's coach will remember that, and when he has a 5-star, he'll do his best to steer him to UT.

HOF receiver Steve Largent ran about as fast as an offensive lineman yet he was such a precise route runner and had such great moves. I have seen him get DB 's so turned around that they fell down.

Witch_Doctors writes:

in response to Witch_Doctors:

Witch Doctor not hating on this kid and if he wants to walk on and try as NGage and Jack4444 suggested. Witch Doctor worried about recruiting that ONLY offers 2-3* kids..(?) Witch Doctor not a star gazer but EVEN Dooley went after big fish. Witch Doctor QUICKLY losing faith in Coaches that dont believe enough to even OFFER some big fish a scholly?????? Witch Doctor not being TOO TOO negative but this a GREAT concern..we dont need 25 3*'s to refill what we are losing..Witch Doctor just sayin'
Bones never lie.

PS. What kind of players did Kelly go after leaving Cincy for ND..now what quality of player are we chasing? ND had fallen pretty far when he arrived? Witch Doctor say act like youve been there..Witch Doctor say when the best NEWS YOU HAVE HEARD is a unranked JC Volleyball player committing is great fodder for EVERYONE else to recruit against you. Witch Doctor hope kid works out but if Im a 4-5* I question the "Turn-around" of this staff and ITS potential..
Bones never lie.

johnlg00 writes:

in response to Witch_Doctors:

Witch Doctor not hating on this kid and if he wants to walk on and try as NGage and Jack4444 suggested. Witch Doctor worried about recruiting that ONLY offers 2-3* kids..(?) Witch Doctor not a star gazer but EVEN Dooley went after big fish. Witch Doctor QUICKLY losing faith in Coaches that dont believe enough to even OFFER some big fish a scholly?????? Witch Doctor not being TOO TOO negative but this a GREAT concern..we dont need 25 3*'s to refill what we are losing..Witch Doctor just sayin'
Bones never lie.

As always, you make a decent point, Witchy. As the old saying goes, "You can't make the sales if you don't make the calls." But coaches offer scholarships for all kinds of reasons not directly related to the ability of a player to make a difference THIS YEAR. One of those reasons in cases like this might be to start to repair some of the damage Dooley reportedly caused to UT's relations with TN high schools. Maybe it wouldn't be smart to offer scholarships to a kid like High or his #1 receiver right out of the box, but, nearer the end of the process, why wouldn't they offer a scholarship to the local kid who had a life-long dream of playing at UT over somebody of equal ability who couldn't previously find Tennessee on a map?

Maybe it wouldn't be smart for such a kid to WAIT to see if UT offered, or maybe for reasons of his own pride he decided NOT to wait. I just think coaches sometimes worry too much about what others think if they were to sign some kid that not everybody else wanted. We see how fans talk about Jones' and Martin's recruiting so far. All I am really looking for is evidence that UT coaches aren't overlooking local athletes just because "everybody knows" in-state kids can't cut it in the SEC and smaller kids generally can't play.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

in response to DonK37920:

Lots of nice comments about his dad on here. Lots of nice people pulling for the underdog story. I trust the coaches evaluation. Not only our coaches but all the other big college coaches that have passed. All are coming to the same conclusion. That is not to say that he can't go somewhere small and if he proves himself there, then he can transfer to a bigger school.

UTC will take him.

69grad writes:

Don't let this guy get away. Joe Montana, Doug Flutie, Conridge Hollaway, Johnny "Football". This "short guy" has got to turn out better than Bray, because I bet he is a team leader...not a whiner.

Witch_Doctors writes:

in response to johnlg00:

As always, you make a decent point, Witchy. As the old saying goes, "You can't make the sales if you don't make the calls." But coaches offer scholarships for all kinds of reasons not directly related to the ability of a player to make a difference THIS YEAR. One of those reasons in cases like this might be to start to repair some of the damage Dooley reportedly caused to UT's relations with TN high schools. Maybe it wouldn't be smart to offer scholarships to a kid like High or his #1 receiver right out of the box, but, nearer the end of the process, why wouldn't they offer a scholarship to the local kid who had a life-long dream of playing at UT over somebody of equal ability who couldn't previously find Tennessee on a map?

Maybe it wouldn't be smart for such a kid to WAIT to see if UT offered, or maybe for reasons of his own pride he decided NOT to wait. I just think coaches sometimes worry too much about what others think if they were to sign some kid that not everybody else wanted. We see how fans talk about Jones' and Martin's recruiting so far. All I am really looking for is evidence that UT coaches aren't overlooking local athletes just because "everybody knows" in-state kids can't cut it in the SEC and smaller kids generally can't play.

Witch Doctor only make iron solid bullet proof points!!(lol) Witch Doctor like Witch Doctor papaws old saying along same lines "You aint going to date pretty if you only chase ugly" lol Witch Doctor not calling anyone ugly but we ARE NOT chasing ANY pretty..lack of faith? Witch Doctor not know but besides Role Player and Needs Players Coaches shouldnt be jumping up and down like its the best day of your life to get a no star Juco VB player(really hope he is Witten jr.) Witch Doctor how do you lose a 4-5* star stud? recruit his second string RB and act like you saved the universe. ..Witch Doctor concerned our sights; besides the hires, have been lowered to new low.
Bones never lie.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

in response to johnlg00:

As always, you make a decent point, Witchy. As the old saying goes, "You can't make the sales if you don't make the calls." But coaches offer scholarships for all kinds of reasons not directly related to the ability of a player to make a difference THIS YEAR. One of those reasons in cases like this might be to start to repair some of the damage Dooley reportedly caused to UT's relations with TN high schools. Maybe it wouldn't be smart to offer scholarships to a kid like High or his #1 receiver right out of the box, but, nearer the end of the process, why wouldn't they offer a scholarship to the local kid who had a life-long dream of playing at UT over somebody of equal ability who couldn't previously find Tennessee on a map?

Maybe it wouldn't be smart for such a kid to WAIT to see if UT offered, or maybe for reasons of his own pride he decided NOT to wait. I just think coaches sometimes worry too much about what others think if they were to sign some kid that not everybody else wanted. We see how fans talk about Jones' and Martin's recruiting so far. All I am really looking for is evidence that UT coaches aren't overlooking local athletes just because "everybody knows" in-state kids can't cut it in the SEC and smaller kids generally can't play.

Interesting dialogue. Seriously. I love to see us get a four or five star recruit but I hate it when they diss a kid after we get him as a 2 or 3*.

You don't really know till they put in time here.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

in response to Witch_Doctors:

Witch Doctor only make iron solid bullet proof points!!(lol) Witch Doctor like Witch Doctor papaws old saying along same lines "You aint going to date pretty if you only chase ugly" lol Witch Doctor not calling anyone ugly but we ARE NOT chasing ANY pretty..lack of faith? Witch Doctor not know but besides Role Player and Needs Players Coaches shouldnt be jumping up and down like its the best day of your life to get a no star Juco VB player(really hope he is Witten jr.) Witch Doctor how do you lose a 4-5* star stud? recruit his second string RB and act like you saved the universe. ..Witch Doctor concerned our sights; besides the hires, have been lowered to new low.
Bones never lie.

I don't know what else you said but I like the datin' pretty part.

Witch_Doctors writes:

in response to mocsandvolsfan:

I don't know what else you said but I like the datin' pretty part.

Witch Doctor say sometimes it even sounds coded to Witch Doctor lol. Witch Doctor say this and next season when the announcer keep saying how slow and small our team looks compared to the other teams..Witch Doctor say then its too late..Witch Doctor say damn you English language!
lol
Bones never lie.

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