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Should the Vols recruit more junior college football players?

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Should the Vols recruit more junior college players?

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td writes:

Absolutely! Quality Junior College players provide the quickest return on investment when a coach is trying to turn a program around. Get quick results with the JUCO's; breed interest from high schoolers; transition out of the JUCO's except for exceptional players like Cordarrel. That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!

jamgod writes:

The fact is, Tenn is not going to get these 5* and high 4* players until they start winning on the football field. I think Jones is going to do it but really I don't expect Lawson, Ford, Bell or any of the other highly rated kids to come to the vols. Next year can be a different story but we got win on the football field for us to get these players. If we can win some bigtime games, then the Univseristy will sell itself and these guys will want to come play for Tenn...that is what it boils down to...don't get me wrong, I want these guys to surprise us and come to Rocky top but I don't think its going to happen till we start winning some footbal games.

underthehill writes:

No question..UT could have used several for next year and I would say they did make the effort..I really think UT has a lot of current roster players who will never be game players..

vut5686#1405392 writes:

Another stupid poll; guess it fills space. Also guess it accomplishes nothing, as the majority is "not sure."

As for the view that TN will never attract quality players until they "win," this implies that Saban, Meyer or Lombardi could not convince them to come, either. That said, then, Jones would seem to have an equal chance to suceed as would anyone else. A salesman can sell, in any environment; some salesmen cannot coach and some coaches cannot..... It will just have to play itself out, but looking at the glass half full as opposed to half empty is an equally sound logic.

nocleats writes:

Dont know about every year, but the need for a RB, and DTackles is so huge Tennessee almost has to. Tackles, no matter how talented, are not ready to "succeed" in the SEC as true freshmen. Defensive ends can play and make some contribution in a 4-3 system as true freshmen, but they still are not Physically ready yet... Tennesseen needs DTackles now!

PUL4VOLS writes:

JUCO players can help. They have instant experience and can contribute for two years at times. Do coaches miss sometimes on JUCO players? Yes and you work with that. Otherwise, UT needs quality players asap. They will eventually get some. This first year may be tough in many ways. But Coach Jones is on the job.

TNORANGEDOGDAD writes:

If it immediately plugs some needs and depth ,then yes

davemanthevolfan writes:

No!!!! They were either not physically ready, or to dumb to get into school to begin with. Jackie Sheryl or how ever you spell it tried the JC route his last few years and it blew up in his face. Take HS kids and stick with them and the coach long enough to make it work. Give him longer than three years too. Arm chair quarterbacks make me sick.

FWBVol writes:

in response to davemanthevolfan:

No!!!! They were either not physically ready, or to dumb to get into school to begin with. Jackie Sheryl or how ever you spell it tried the JC route his last few years and it blew up in his face. Take HS kids and stick with them and the coach long enough to make it work. Give him longer than three years too. Arm chair quarterbacks make me sick.

People that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. The proper use of "to dumb" is actually "too dumb." And the proper spelling is Sherrill.

It is true that many junior college players aren't physically ready for the SEC or Big 10 when they graduate from high school and nobody is suggesting Butch Jones go out and recruit a 250-pound JC offensive tackle. Some kids mature physically later than others and the junior college option allows them to bulk up and grow into their adult bodies.

Academically some kids do lack the discipline to succeed in high school or they don't realize it until it's too late or they don't get good advice from their high school coaches about the academic requirements they will need to meet to go to college. A junior college is a place kids can go and develop strong academic habits needed that will translate to a four-year school.

In many ways JC players are less of a risk than high school players. A JC player has already been away from home and won't deal with the homesick issues. They have played a level of football above the high school game so they are, in some ways, easier to evaluate as players. Most junior college players also have worked through the academic issues that often hinder freshmen in their first year of school.

Really, the only drawback to signing a junior college player is they only have two years of eligibility.

BruisedOrange writes:

Seeing how it's now been 5 years since "the future is now"...
yeah, giddyup!

With offenses evolving again toward more "read/react" plays, that will shorten the learning curve at some skill positions, atleast, compared to the multi-year learning curve of a pro-style offense (see Cordarelle Patterson's route tree last year!).

Jakevol writes:

If a HS kid is really good he only last about 2-3 years then moves to NFL. Get all the JNCO kids you can, filling holes where the team needs the help the most. Most of these kids understand about going to class after two years. Plus, they understand about the heavy daily schedule a Football Player goes through.

licknpromise777#651578 writes:

That's a definite yes, especially at DB and skill positions..Knowing we would struggle to sign a good RB AGAIN this year we should haven been all over the top JUCO running back but once again dropped the ball and did not pursue one..All our eggs where in the Derrick Green basket and for the second straight year we will end up with a scrub leftover! Give Dooley credit for pursuing some of the best JUCO players..Perfect example of how it works is Snyder at Kansas State..JUCO's are the cornerstone of one winning season after another for him..He has 25 on his roster, all from the same places we recruit...Hutchinson, Butler and San Francisco

sly_stone99#434111 writes:

When only 23% percent of your recruits are 4 star players and the rest is 3 stars or less it doesn't take super intelligence to know you need to get some JUCO's.

Sir_Spanky writes:

Most NS Polls on here are beyond stupid. This one hasn't fallen far from the tree. Maybe TN should do whatever it takes to keep from going 3 and 9. How does that sound? Will that work for an answer?

davemanthevolfan writes:

in response to davemanthevolfan:

No!!!! They were either not physically ready, or to dumb to get into school to begin with. Jackie Sheryl or how ever you spell it tried the JC route his last few years and it blew up in his face. Take HS kids and stick with them and the coach long enough to make it work. Give him longer than three years too. Arm chair quarterbacks make me sick.

If you take a 2 or 3* freshman and redshirt him he will probably be a 3 or 4* by time he starts to compete for a spot on the team. That leaves him 2 more years to learn the system and 2 additional years to really be strong players. With jc transfers you are lucky to get someone that will give you 1 - 2 decent years. Just saying.

pcorange writes:

in response to jamgod:

The fact is, Tenn is not going to get these 5* and high 4* players until they start winning on the football field. I think Jones is going to do it but really I don't expect Lawson, Ford, Bell or any of the other highly rated kids to come to the vols. Next year can be a different story but we got win on the football field for us to get these players. If we can win some bigtime games, then the Univseristy will sell itself and these guys will want to come play for Tenn...that is what it boils down to...don't get me wrong, I want these guys to surprise us and come to Rocky top but I don't think its going to happen till we start winning some footbal games.

I couldn't agree with you more. I am still holding out hopes of getting them, but it's going to be hard to convince them they have a chance to win in the SEC after back to back to back 7 loss seasons. CBJ has a lot of energy and confidence, but that will need to be translated into wins on the football field this fall. Couple a winning season with a year of building relationships with class of 14 kids, and CBJ could turn out a nice class next year.

gogovols2002#222335 writes:

My answer..If they are good enough to = win.

MarbleVol48 writes:

YES. Louisville has 12 on their recruiting list now, and thats after a 9 win season!

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