John Adams: Preseason line on UT isn't all bad

John Adams
In this photo taken March 9, 2013, Tennessee offensive line coach Don Mahoney instructs players Marques Pair, left, Zach Fulton, Ja'Wuan James, James Stone, and Alex Bullard during spring NCAA football practice in Knoxville, Tenn. With four starters back from a group that allowed only eight sacks last season, Tennessee expects to have one of the best offensive lines in the country this fall. (AP Photo/The Knoxville News Sentinel, Amy Smotherman Burgess)

In this photo taken March 9, 2013, Tennessee offensive line coach Don Mahoney instructs players Marques Pair, left, Zach Fulton, Ja'Wuan James, James Stone, and Alex Bullard during spring NCAA football practice in Knoxville, Tenn. With four starters back from a group that allowed only eight sacks last season, Tennessee expects to have one of the best offensive lines in the country this fall. (AP Photo/The Knoxville News Sentinel, Amy Smotherman Burgess)

Selective reading could give Tennessee fans an altogether different perspective on their next football team.

You want to feel better about the upcoming season? Then follow this two-step plan.

Read every preseason football magazine’s evaluation of UT’s offensive line.

Throw the magazines in the trash.

One preseason magazine ranks UT’s line No. 2. Not in the SEC. In the country.

Lindy’s puts Tennessee’s bunch right behind Stanford’s. Its ranking of the top-10 offensive lines reads like a list of national championship contenders.

UT is between Stanford and Oklahoma. Alabama is fourth. Ohio State, fifth. Oregon, eighth.

Nine of the teams on the list won nine or more games last season. One won five.

Offensive linemen usually stand out because of their size. Tennessee’s offensive linemen stand out because of their ranking.

Despite three consecutive seven-loss seasons, UT has somehow managed to assemble an exceptional offensive line. The contradiction is glaring.

This offensive line looks as though it came off the 1990s assembly line. Back then, the Vols seemingly never lacked an accomplished group of blockers, and they were surrounded by similarly competent players in almost every area.

The current offensive line is surrounded by uncertainty.

The Vols don’t know who their next quarterback is. They do know he isn’t Peyton Manning, Heath Shuler, or Tee Martin.

The wide receivers are even more questionable. Running back is short on stars and depth.

But the offensive line lacks neither talent nor experience. And its most recent experiences have been good.

The Vols allowed 10 fewer sacks than any other team in the SEC last season. They also rushed for an average of 4.7 yards per carry. Only Alabama, Texas A&M and Georgia did better.

Too bad for Tennessee that football isn’t like college track. The Vols could qualify their starting offensive line for the national championship game.

So don’t try to tell new offensive line coach Don Mahoney about the enormous rebuilding job that lies ahead. He might as well have gone from Cincinnati to Ohio State.

Names are in order.

Senior tackle Ja’Wuan James has started 37 games. Junior tackle Antonio Richardson is being mentioned as a possible early-out to the NFL. Senior guard Zach Fulton has started 28 games, one more than senior center James Stone. Senior guard Alex Bullard served as a backup last season, but started 11 games in 2011. Junior guard Marcus Jackson, who played as a backup last season, will compete with Bullard for a starting position.

There’s a drop-off after that. However, think how many teams would love to have that much experience

at positions in which experience means so much.

These guys haven’t just played a lot. They have played a lot together.

There’s no tougher league than the SEC for breaking in a quarterback. Whether Justin Worley or Nathan Peterman wins the starting job, a difficult job will be made easier by the offensive line.

Even if it plays up to its preseason ranking, no one should expect a Heisman Trophy candidate to emerge in the backfield. But if it’s really the second-best line in the country, it could lift an entire offense above preseason expectations.

John Adams is a senior columnist. He may be reached at 865-342-6284 or adamsj@knoxnews.com. Follow him at http://twitter.com/johnadamskns.

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murrayvol writes:

"matriculate" our way down the field??? What?

I mostly agree with your post but the above doesn't work in that context.

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to GeauxTeamScribe:

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In your dreams, clown..In fact, lil vandy will be going down this year when they travel to Knoxville..Anchor that down!

utvolfan1955 writes:

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shiny head Franklin has won with Bobby Johnsons players

CoverOrange writes:

Student body left, student body right.
Repeat.

RashaadSalabeb writes:

The Vols will be much improved this year. Mark it down!

Fight on you Mighty Vols!

Snapshot writes:

in response to GeauxTeamScribe:

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You are a moron, and you are ignorant. Oh yes, did I say you are a MORON?

flatrock writes:

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THERE IS A REASON MARYLAND PAID JAMES (TROOPER) FRANKLIN $100K TO GO AWAY...STAY TUNED.

Navaloranges writes:

in response to GeauxTeamScribe:

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We know you know what a JOKE you are. The question is, why do you waste YOUR time typing stupidity, when YOU, and US, know it's stupidity?

GerryOP writes:

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Why do you even waste your time entering this junk? It's just hateful trash and usually utter nonsense with no facts backing anything up. What a waste.

BaldingEagle writes:

in response to GerryOP:

Why do you even waste your time entering this junk? It's just hateful trash and usually utter nonsense with no facts backing anything up. What a waste.

You do know GeauxTeamScribe is Coach Franklin. He's the only one that thinks he can coach. Franklin is 0-6 against ranked teams in two years at Vandy with an average score of 31-14. Keeping playing UMass and Presbyterian to actually get some wins. Then people will still know you are a loser. And Franklin is the only SEC coach Dooley doesn't have a losing record against. Wow!

tomkats3242 writes:

As usual adams has nothing good to say about UT. He should be banned from campus, asked to move out the US, and take his food stamps away from him. Come on KNS FIRE adams.

springtx_vol writes:

in response to murrayvol:

"matriculate" our way down the field??? What?

I mostly agree with your post but the above doesn't work in that context.

This is not intended to be an insult, but I am guessing that you are no older than late 20's. I base this on not understanding John Madden's infamous call about some team matriculating down the field. The context is drives that are a bunch of 3 and 4 yard plays, not long td's. One of many Maddenisms that are around now.

ActualUTAlum writes:

in response to GeauxTeamScribe:

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I guess there's not enough Vandy fans to warrant a website for poseurs like you to spew your ignorance.

Here's some facts:

You didn't go to Vandy and you're not a Vandy fan. You went to Opry Mills last November and bought an Anchor Down shirt. Vandy beat the worst UT team in recent memory one time, a UT team that had already quit on its lame duck coach and didn't want to go to a bowl game. So congrats. Franklin is 1-1 against the worst coach in SEC history.

Franklin has recruited some better talent than Vandy deserves, but he's only been able to do that by dropping the academic requirements for football players. Your dumb jocks are not smarter than anyone else's. The Asian kid doing Ph.D. research in physics has nothing to do with football at any school.

Look at the recruiting rankings for next year. What about that makes you think Vandy is gonna get better than UT? Right now is the closest you'll ever be and guess what...Franklin will be gone after next year. Maybe then you can go back to being a Florida fan or whatever you were before last November.

73-29-5. GBO.

fearthehound writes:

There are 15 posts to this story as I type, and of those 15, 6 are dedicated to reponding to geauxteamscrub. That represents 40% of the posts--that's 40% of our time wasted responding to a slimy loser troll who gets his jollies having people respond to his pathological silliness. Maybe we could spend our time better--we could have conversations between real fans. What do you guys think? Can we ignore the pathetic losers?

fearthehound writes:

in response to ActualUTAlum:

I guess there's not enough Vandy fans to warrant a website for poseurs like you to spew your ignorance.

Here's some facts:

You didn't go to Vandy and you're not a Vandy fan. You went to Opry Mills last November and bought an Anchor Down shirt. Vandy beat the worst UT team in recent memory one time, a UT team that had already quit on its lame duck coach and didn't want to go to a bowl game. So congrats. Franklin is 1-1 against the worst coach in SEC history.

Franklin has recruited some better talent than Vandy deserves, but he's only been able to do that by dropping the academic requirements for football players. Your dumb jocks are not smarter than anyone else's. The Asian kid doing Ph.D. research in physics has nothing to do with football at any school.

Look at the recruiting rankings for next year. What about that makes you think Vandy is gonna get better than UT? Right now is the closest you'll ever be and guess what...Franklin will be gone after next year. Maybe then you can go back to being a Florida fan or whatever you were before last November.

73-29-5. GBO.

Nice post--I like it. Even if you are wasting time responding to a slimy troll.

pingkr62 writes:

in response to fearthehound:

There are 15 posts to this story as I type, and of those 15, 6 are dedicated to reponding to geauxteamscrub. That represents 40% of the posts--that's 40% of our time wasted responding to a slimy loser troll who gets his jollies having people respond to his pathological silliness. Maybe we could spend our time better--we could have conversations between real fans. What do you guys think? Can we ignore the pathetic losers?

Very true. Thanks.

MikeNPS writes:

in response to GeauxTeamScribe:

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If James Framklin is as outstanding a coach as you seem to think, what makes you conclude that he will stick around West End Junior College for ten years?

10seVol85_Part_Deux writes:

GeauxTeamScrotum cracks me up.

VOLFANMAURY writes:

I know I am in the minority but Tennessee will have a better year than everyone is expecting. Compare both talent and the coaching between this years team and 2010. Let's start with the coach. Dooley was NOT qualified to be the head coach of Tennessee! He had a loosing record when he came to UT. 17-20. He was never even a coordinator. The man was NOT a head football coach! Butch Jones IS a head football coach! He has been a winner every where he has been. He has a winning record 50-27 and 4 conference titles to prove it.
As far as talent is concerned in 2010 we were practically going into the stands to find offensive linemen. We had no proven quarterback, no proven running back and very little talent on defensive line. This year we have one of the best offensive lines in the country. Our other positions are no worse off then 2010. That year we went 6-6. In 2010 we had to play Oregon who ended up playing in the national championship game. LSU at home and Alabama. This years schedule is hard but no harder than 2010. Taken into consideration the talent and coaching it would not surprise me one bit to see an 8-4 team this year. In fact I would be surprised if we finish worse than that. Butch Jones is the real deal. We are going to beat some teams that on paper are way better than us. We have a real football coach and he WILL have these players ready. They won't look like the Keystone Cops under Dooley.

10seVol85_Part_Deux writes:

Also, this was a pretty positive article. Not really necessary to bash Adams this time.

If I'm not mistaken, the same O-line will be blocking for the same RBs who had that good average last season. That's reason to hope a bit, I think.

Adams is right about it being a lot easier to break in a new QB behind a great line. That's reason to hope a little bit too.

Some of those receivers showed some flash last year. I recall a couple of really nice plays from Jacob Carter, and Pig Howard is small but fast. Devrin Young was pretty impressive in the Spring.

Overall, I'm cautiously hopeful.

10seVol85_Part_Deux writes:

in response to VOLFANMAURY:

I know I am in the minority but Tennessee will have a better year than everyone is expecting. Compare both talent and the coaching between this years team and 2010. Let's start with the coach. Dooley was NOT qualified to be the head coach of Tennessee! He had a loosing record when he came to UT. 17-20. He was never even a coordinator. The man was NOT a head football coach! Butch Jones IS a head football coach! He has been a winner every where he has been. He has a winning record 50-27 and 4 conference titles to prove it.
As far as talent is concerned in 2010 we were practically going into the stands to find offensive linemen. We had no proven quarterback, no proven running back and very little talent on defensive line. This year we have one of the best offensive lines in the country. Our other positions are no worse off then 2010. That year we went 6-6. In 2010 we had to play Oregon who ended up playing in the national championship game. LSU at home and Alabama. This years schedule is hard but no harder than 2010. Taken into consideration the talent and coaching it would not surprise me one bit to see an 8-4 team this year. In fact I would be surprised if we finish worse than that. Butch Jones is the real deal. We are going to beat some teams that on paper are way better than us. We have a real football coach and he WILL have these players ready. They won't look like the Keystone Cops under Dooley.

Agreed. From a roster/talent standpoint, the only difference is at receiver. In 2010, we had proven WRs in Moore and Jones (seniors) and Sr Luke Stocker at TE. Behind those guys, we had Zach Rogers (so) and Hunter and D Rogers (both freshmen).

This year, we aren't so stacked at receiver, but I think the talent is there, just not the experience. We'll see.

VOLFANMAURY writes:

in response to 10seVol85_Part_Deux:

Agreed. From a roster/talent standpoint, the only difference is at receiver. In 2010, we had proven WRs in Moore and Jones (seniors) and Sr Luke Stocker at TE. Behind those guys, we had Zach Rogers (so) and Hunter and D Rogers (both freshmen).

This year, we aren't so stacked at receiver, but I think the talent is there, just not the experience. We'll see.

Not to mention the recruiting prowess of Jones vs Dooley. It won't start showing until 2014 but the man can flat out recruit and he is not alienating the in state talent like Dooley. In short when Dooley came I was going to be surprised if he was successful. Now I will be surprised if Butch Jones is not successful.

10seVol85_Part_Deux writes:

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Franklin was a coordinator before Vandy. It took him 15 years to get there, and he didn't even have a winning record as a coordinator at MD. He took the head coaching position at a crappy football program for only one reason: If he could show enough improvement, he could get a good job at a football school. Don't kid yourself, idiot. If Franklin can lead Vandy to another winning season, he'll git while the gittin's good. No matter how much Vandy may want to pay to keep him, he wants to win, and he's gonna have to go somewhere else to do that. If you don't think he wants to win conference championships and be relevant nationally, you're a bigger fool than we all already think you are.

Jones won two MAC titles in three years at CMU, and CMU to their first undefeated MAC season in history. Then he went to Cincy and won the Big East and was Big East coach of the year in his second season, along with beating Franklin in the Liberty Bowl. He declined several offers from Colorado and Purdue, among others, because he wanted to be the Tennessee head coach. He will continue to beat Franklin, who will never win the division or coach of the year, you can count on it.

BTW, since Vandy isn't required (as a private institution) to release information about coaches' salaries, you're only guessing. Best info I can find is that Franklin and Jones are both getting $3M/year right now. Ultimately, that will work out to more money per win for Franklin though.

claiborneh writes:

Anyone notice that, Kentucky, yep, Kentucky has passed TN in recruiting rankings on Rivals. No kidding.

CCLC writes:

in response to 9willbesofine:

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you can't count.

CCLC writes:

in response to claiborneh:

Anyone notice that, Kentucky, yep, Kentucky has passed TN in recruiting rankings on Rivals. No kidding.

....and you don't know how the recruiting numbers tally. The team with the most recruits is going to rank higher just because of the number OF COMMITS. Do you really think that Can'tucky has out recruited Alabama, Georgia,LSU and A&M?

CCLC writes:

about that line.....just sayin'

SEC total offensive yards returning:
The total offensive yards were added from passing yards, rushing yards and receiving yards, via Phil Steele.
1. Ole Miss 87.8% (#15 in CFB)
2. Georgia 85.7% (#19)
3. LSU 81.6% (#31)
4. Alabama 81.4% (#33)
5. Kentucky 81.1% (#34)
6. Texas A&M 77.8% (#43)
7. Missouri 73.3% (#55)
8. Mississippi State 70.9% (#61)
9. South Carolina 68.4% (#65)
10. Auburn 60% (#84)
11. Florida 55.2% (#92)
12. Vanderbilt 47.2% (#104)
13. Arkansas 30.5% (#120)
14. Tennessee 26.1% (#124)[Saturday Down South]

CCLC writes:

Happy Father's Day Vol Fans! Being a Dad sure is a sweet gig. Thank your bride and hug your kids today.

"A good father is one of the most unsung, unpraised, unnoticed, and yet one of the most valuable assets in our society."

utvolfan1955 writes:

in response to GeauxTeamScribe:

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Brett, are you still upset with UT cause your son flunked out. Get over it

richvol writes:

in response to fearthehound:

There are 15 posts to this story as I type, and of those 15, 6 are dedicated to reponding to geauxteamscrub. That represents 40% of the posts--that's 40% of our time wasted responding to a slimy loser troll who gets his jollies having people respond to his pathological silliness. Maybe we could spend our time better--we could have conversations between real fans. What do you guys think? Can we ignore the pathetic losers?

Exactly...responding to trolls is a waste of time and space...and stupid.

vol49 writes:

Used to really enjoy coming to this website for news on the Vols. No more. It's been taken over by trolls. Happy Fathers Day to all except you troll mother.......

usafvol writes:

in response to GeauxTeamScribe:

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You're so pathetic. I'll wager the only football you ever played was on your X-box in your mothers basement..

usafvol writes:

in response to 9willbesofine:

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9willbesofine = enema nozzle..

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to usafvol:

9willbesofine = enema nozzle..

When did he get promoted??

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

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Zero cred?? Coming from a dis-functional sort like yourself, that really cut deep, NOT! Isn't Dooley 2&1 against Franklin? I think that means he'll always maintain a lead in that rivalry. If i recall, Butch Jones already has a win over that obtuse JA/Franklin. It's going to be fun watching Jones send Franklin off to greener pastures. Much like DiNerdo, Pancost, Johnson, and Woody. CYA in the funny papers.

BearGapVol73 writes:

in response to murrayvol:

"matriculate" our way down the field??? What?

I mostly agree with your post but the above doesn't work in that context.

Dear murrayvol,

Welcome to Tennessee. New to "American Football", are you?

From the internet:
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In Super Bowl IV, American football coach Hank Stram wore a microphone on the sidelines as part of the television broadcast, and was caught telling his Kansas City Chiefs, "Just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys," referring to the process of moving the football toward a score. Since that time, and especially after Stram's death in 2005, sports commentators have used the phrase "matriculate the ball down the field" in this sense. However, this use of the word is unrelated to any other known use of the word.
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You know that they can't put it on the internet if it's not true.

GBO

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to BearGapVol73:

Dear murrayvol,

Welcome to Tennessee. New to "American Football", are you?

From the internet:
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In Super Bowl IV, American football coach Hank Stram wore a microphone on the sidelines as part of the television broadcast, and was caught telling his Kansas City Chiefs, "Just keep matriculatin' the ball down the field, boys," referring to the process of moving the football toward a score. Since that time, and especially after Stram's death in 2005, sports commentators have used the phrase "matriculate the ball down the field" in this sense. However, this use of the word is unrelated to any other known use of the word.
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You know that they can't put it on the internet if it's not true.

GBO

Hank Stram was famous for using words out of context/meaning. Much like Dizzy Dean when he was asked to do the color commentary for the Stl Cardinals. The funny part of the Dizzy Dean story was, a teacher at a grade school in the Stl County school district asked Dizzy to please step down before he ruined every kids grammar within listening distance of KMOX radio. Hank was another lovable character like that and will be missed. Thanks for the walk down memory lane.

jhayes0926#638474 writes:

Doesn't matter if we have the 49ers offensive line if the defense yields 600 yards and 55 points per game! We couldn't score fast enough to keep up with the other team last year. We better put some emphasis on improving our defense from last year!!

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to notfunanymore:

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Really?? Do you even have a clue about SDS, because any athlete on UT's roster could start for them. Having a great OL can only help an inexperienced QB/RB, not hinder them. You are really desperate to slam UT with no facts or sound reasoning to support your BS. I hope you research a little better before you post another nugget of idiocy.

underthehill writes:

in response to 10seVol85_Part_Deux:

Franklin was a coordinator before Vandy. It took him 15 years to get there, and he didn't even have a winning record as a coordinator at MD. He took the head coaching position at a crappy football program for only one reason: If he could show enough improvement, he could get a good job at a football school. Don't kid yourself, idiot. If Franklin can lead Vandy to another winning season, he'll git while the gittin's good. No matter how much Vandy may want to pay to keep him, he wants to win, and he's gonna have to go somewhere else to do that. If you don't think he wants to win conference championships and be relevant nationally, you're a bigger fool than we all already think you are.

Jones won two MAC titles in three years at CMU, and CMU to their first undefeated MAC season in history. Then he went to Cincy and won the Big East and was Big East coach of the year in his second season, along with beating Franklin in the Liberty Bowl. He declined several offers from Colorado and Purdue, among others, because he wanted to be the Tennessee head coach. He will continue to beat Franklin, who will never win the division or coach of the year, you can count on it.

BTW, since Vandy isn't required (as a private institution) to release information about coaches' salaries, you're only guessing. Best info I can find is that Franklin and Jones are both getting $3M/year right now. Ultimately, that will work out to more money per win for Franklin though.

Lack of respect for your opponent is past stupid..and is not practiced by the best of players or coaches..it was one of the early signs Dooley was not head coaching material..along with his art of making excuses..this too is not practiced by the best..I don't see Jones making these mistakes..but it is not unusual for uninformed fans..fact is ..Franklin could have left Vandy for a better job this year if he had chosen to do so..only Franklin and Vandy have information as to his intentions..as for his coaching..I watched his team several times and they are disciplined, play hard, and very well coached..example..the way they wore UT down and was dominating them at the end of the game..Vandy has a much stronger roster this year..Franklin recruited 6 offensive linemen in the top ranked 100 his first year and redshirted them ..he moved one of them to defense..giving Vandy what could be the stongest line play they have ever had..Franklin has planned well ..has an excellent staff and game plans..and I think Jones would say the same..this is the first step to beating the opponent..have enough sense to know what you are up against..

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to jhayes0926#638474:

Doesn't matter if we have the 49ers offensive line if the defense yields 600 yards and 55 points per game! We couldn't score fast enough to keep up with the other team last year. We better put some emphasis on improving our defense from last year!!

You're dead on target with that analysis. The defense some how got overlooked in losses at UGA, MSU and USCe. We seem to only point to Tyler Bray's mistakes down the stretch instead of placing blame at the horrid defense throughout the game. I need to only point out one game (Mizzou) that proved UT's defense was the worst fielded in over 50 yrs of fb. The defensive side of the ball must improve on zone coverage, edge rushing and tackling or UT will be lucky to win 5 games this season.

PHAT_VOL writes:

in response to MikeNPS:

If James Framklin is as outstanding a coach as you seem to think, what makes you conclude that he will stick around West End Junior College for ten years?

It's this simple He Likes Being There! He likes being a big fish in a small pond. It will be interesting to watch and see how this thing a Vandy turns out. Lets face it Vandys expectations are not set that high. So it makes the job of head coach easier that at most SEC schools. Give credit where credit is due. He's doing a nice job. Lets see if he likes being there three years from now.

GO VOLS!!!

CCLC writes:

in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE:

You're dead on target with that analysis. The defense some how got overlooked in losses at UGA, MSU and USCe. We seem to only point to Tyler Bray's mistakes down the stretch instead of placing blame at the horrid defense throughout the game. I need to only point out one game (Mizzou) that proved UT's defense was the worst fielded in over 50 yrs of fb. The defensive side of the ball must improve on zone coverage, edge rushing and tackling or UT will be lucky to win 5 games this season.

The UGA and uSC games were very close, but it was the close loss to uSC that broke UT's will. Following that near upset, two 5-7 teams,one from the Sun Belt conference, scored a whopping 99 points on that VOl D.

Colliervol writes:

I did not know that Peabody actually had sidewalk alumni. Go figure. Their own alumni don't even care about the athletic program. Even when they win a few games, it's just with a passing interest.

All this sad sack (and even some of our own questionable "fans") have is the past few years when UT has been down and he seems to want to focus on those UT fans who actually are supportive (rather than being a bunch of whiny brats) in the down times and whose worst offense is that we gave a guy a chance. I don't think anybody thought Derek Dooley was a great coach when he was hired. But, given the horrendous timing when Lame-O left (no big time candidates available in January), he was one of the few choices left to us. Given that fact, all reasonable (and real) UT fans could do is try to be optimistic and give the guy a shot. Turns out the choice was poor. Que sera sera. You move on and don't look back. Now we give Butch Jones a chance. I like what I see so far but we'll see in 3 to 4 years.

Meanwhile, Peabody may be able to consistently beat the Presbyterians and U Mass's of the world but they will never make serious noise in the SEC. It's sort of like Ole Miss. Must be tough to realize you'll never finish better than 3rd in your division no matter how good you get. We, however, have been in the higher echelon and, with our money, facilities, resources and storied history, there is no reason to think we can't get back there again. I am quite confident that we will and no amount of "troll logic" or dimwit journalists will convince me otherwise.

brokebackvol writes:

in response to GeauxTeamScribe:

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What a "back end of horse" comment.

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to Colliervol:

I did not know that Peabody actually had sidewalk alumni. Go figure. Their own alumni don't even care about the athletic program. Even when they win a few games, it's just with a passing interest.

All this sad sack (and even some of our own questionable "fans") have is the past few years when UT has been down and he seems to want to focus on those UT fans who actually are supportive (rather than being a bunch of whiny brats) in the down times and whose worst offense is that we gave a guy a chance. I don't think anybody thought Derek Dooley was a great coach when he was hired. But, given the horrendous timing when Lame-O left (no big time candidates available in January), he was one of the few choices left to us. Given that fact, all reasonable (and real) UT fans could do is try to be optimistic and give the guy a shot. Turns out the choice was poor. Que sera sera. You move on and don't look back. Now we give Butch Jones a chance. I like what I see so far but we'll see in 3 to 4 years.

Meanwhile, Peabody may be able to consistently beat the Presbyterians and U Mass's of the world but they will never make serious noise in the SEC. It's sort of like Ole Miss. Must be tough to realize you'll never finish better than 3rd in your division no matter how good you get. We, however, have been in the higher echelon and, with our money, facilities, resources and storied history, there is no reason to think we can't get back there again. I am quite confident that we will and no amount of "troll logic" or dimwit journalists will convince me otherwise.

As usual, great points..+100

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to CCLC:

The UGA and uSC games were very close, but it was the close loss to uSC that broke UT's will. Following that near upset, two 5-7 teams,one from the Sun Belt conference, scored a whopping 99 points on that VOl D.

You can't argue with facts..+1.

Vol-TIL-I-FaLL writes:

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first id like to apologize to you for everyone one here wanting to chop ur head off..but i personally see no harm in how you feel..you should always speak ur mind so people can understand where youre coming from , as well as your point of view,and respect that as it is...so i appreciate you giving me the insight to how you feel ..it tells me exactly how youre feeling about this up coming season...but always remember,showing fear is never a bad thing..especially if theres no more to it than the fear of the vols shocking alot of u haters this year..or does coward run in your fam...?

powellvol82 writes:

I have only commented once since I created my account but I can't help but wonder why everyone resonds to that idiot geauxteamscribble. He is getting exactly what he wants, a response out of someone. Quit responding and he will go away.

powellvol82 writes:

Sorry, responds.

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