Former UT running backs coach Jay Graham will make $275,000 at Florida State

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Former Tennessee running backs coach Jay Graham goes through a drill with running back Rajion Neal during practice at Haslam Field on Aug. 6.

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Saul Young/News Sentinel Former Tennessee running backs coach Jay Graham goes through a drill with running back Rajion Neal during practice at Haslam Field on Aug. 6.

Former Tennessee running backs coach Jay Graham will make $275,000 annually at Florida State, according to documents released to the Orlando Sentinel on Tuesday.

Graham was slated to make $260,000 for the Vols in 2013, but a source familiar with the negotiations told the News Sentinel that Graham had been offered a raise to $300,000 after interviewing with FSU.

Graham’s replacement, Robert Gillespie, will make $300,000 for UT, the same amount he was slated to make at West Virginia. UT released that salary figure on Monday. (See all the salaries for Tennessee's coaching staff).

The numbers appear to confirm that neither move was made for financial reasons.

Graham, a former Tennessee running back, was reunited with Randy Sanders at FSU. Sanders, a former Tennessee player and longtime assistant, was Graham’s position coach in college.

For Gillespie, a former Florida running back, the move to Tennessee represents an opportunity to return to the SEC after two seasons at West Virginia and two at Oklahoma State.

Evan Woodbery covers Tennessee football. Follow him on Twitter.

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manoffewwords writes:

I CRG1 will be a good replacement for CJG.For whatever reason Jay wanted to leave.

abnerPeabody writes:

Graham did not want to be at Tennessee, so he moved on for whatever reason. He was an OK coach,but I really don't see where anything has changed for Tennessee. Gillespie and Graham are both good coaches. Graham will not be missed.We may have even gotten the better one of the two.

manoffewwords writes:

in response to abnerPeabody:

Graham did not want to be at Tennessee, so he moved on for whatever reason. He was an OK coach,but I really don't see where anything has changed for Tennessee. Gillespie and Graham are both good coaches. Graham will not be missed.We may have even gotten the better one of the two.

Agree

rb4346 writes:

Vols still came out ahead in the changeover. Good luck to you as you were a great running back. Jay you are gonna miss out on being a part of somthing special at UT, hope you and Randy are happy together. Maybe if Kiffin doesn't improve at USC you all can hire another traitor.

FanNotSheep writes:

So it wasn't about money was it? Maybe it was about the lone holdover from the previous staff trying to fit in on a new staff entirely composed of a close-knit group of coaches who had moved from Central Michigan to Cincinnati and now to Tennessee after all.

But no, Jay is a traitor who wasn't loyal. B.S! By the way, Randy didn't leave UT -- he was fired.

All the best to Graham. Hope Jones and his staff are the right guys to finally turn things around for Tennessee.

Vols4life77 writes:

I respect Jay Grahm and I remember watching him run and he was a great Vol.. I don't know what to make of him leaving since we know money wasn't the issue. I sure wish we knew the reason whether it be the commitment this new staff demanded or just maybe the lack of just fitting in with the new guys. I have a feeling I'll never know but I wish him the best anyway. I'm fine with what we have and I'm excited about what they bring. Keep recruiting and Go Vols!!!

Prostar writes:

I don't think there is a whole lot in Randy Sanders' resume to inspire you. Then add in Sal Sunseri's resume and working with a defensive coordinator who has never been a DC in college, Jay what were you thinking? You took a chance joining Dooley's staff and now you join up with Jimbo Fisher and this staff. Best of luck, I have a feeling you're going to need it.

arkansasvol1975 writes:

Well Graham probably thought Florida State was a more stable program right now, rather than Tennessee. Coach Jones has 3 years to right the ship or he is gone as well. Graham already has been through that with Dooley, probably doesnt want to go thru that again. Jimbo Fishers job is not in question right now, so Graham thought he was making the right move. It is not fun to have your job on the line every year, but hell, thats why they get paid so much. Hell, I would love to make $300,000 a year and fear my job was on the line every year......look what coach Sal did, he made out like a bandit.

volinlm writes:

Recruiting much easier at FSU. Another rung on the ladder for Jay. Wish him well.

Rich_Is_Re-born writes:

Good luck Jay.

CoverOrange writes:

in response to Prostar:

I don't think there is a whole lot in Randy Sanders' resume to inspire you. Then add in Sal Sunseri's resume and working with a defensive coordinator who has never been a DC in college, Jay what were you thinking? You took a chance joining Dooley's staff and now you join up with Jimbo Fisher and this staff. Best of luck, I have a feeling you're going to need it.

24 years as a coach, 10 years as an OC. Coached Andy Kelly, James Stewart, Jay Graham, Tee Martin, Casey Clausen, Eric Ainge, Andre Woodson, Randall Cobb, et al. Yeah, empty resume.

laraccoon writes:

in response to arkansasvol1975:

Well Graham probably thought Florida State was a more stable program right now, rather than Tennessee. Coach Jones has 3 years to right the ship or he is gone as well. Graham already has been through that with Dooley, probably doesnt want to go thru that again. Jimbo Fishers job is not in question right now, so Graham thought he was making the right move. It is not fun to have your job on the line every year, but hell, thats why they get paid so much. Hell, I would love to make $300,000 a year and fear my job was on the line every year......look what coach Sal did, he made out like a bandit.

$275,000 and quit babbbling .

volthrunthru#658770 writes:

in response to rb4346:

Vols still came out ahead in the changeover. Good luck to you as you were a great running back. Jay you are gonna miss out on being a part of somthing special at UT, hope you and Randy are happy together. Maybe if Kiffin doesn't improve at USC you all can hire another traitor.

Wrong....

Graham's departure is not at all about anything but the crude and condescending attitude of a couple of the long-term Butch Jones coaching staff.

Graham,is far better on paper than all but one of the Jones-gang...and better on paper as a coach---

and certainly better as a recruiter than his replacement.

A couple of smart mouthed comments by the new coaching staff---from people who had never been where Graham had been---

who were depending on the relationship with Jones to keep them rather than expertise, experience and recruiting ability---

cost us Jay Graham.

Now...Graham's replacement is a proven commodity...
and does not have to be beholden to the new system, now that a high-quality casualty in Jay Graham has occurred.
Where Graham had to put up with garbage...or be labeled a trouble maker or disloyal or arrogant...

Graham's replacement has Graham's departure as insulation to use, in case any more of the mid-major coaching staff that Jones brought with him...

decide to be rude to the new RB coach, as they were to Graham---who clearly could out-recruit all but the head coach---and that is only because the Head Coach can do things that other have to ask permission to do.

Just that simple. Losing Graham was a screwup. Nothing less...regardless of how it is positioned by the pro-Jones media and an administration accustomed to ducking bullets and able to breathe finally because of the all out campaign to promote Jones that has coopted all but one of the Knoxville media. Fact is, the media has lost it over Jones. Mostly that's because green reporters are at work...and UT plays them like fish.

If Fulmer had gotten this kind of help his last two years, he would have had better classes than Jones. After all, Fulmer had a coaching staff that had only won a National Championship,.,

Now that may not be as good as winning a co-championship at Cincinnati...

but at least it's something.

ncvol17 writes:

would have loved it to have worked put. Always nice to have alumni on staff if possible. Creates a special link w/ alum fans as well as all fans. best of luck JG.

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to Vols4life77:

I respect Jay Grahm and I remember watching him run and he was a great Vol.. I don't know what to make of him leaving since we know money wasn't the issue. I sure wish we knew the reason whether it be the commitment this new staff demanded or just maybe the lack of just fitting in with the new guys. I have a feeling I'll never know but I wish him the best anyway. I'm fine with what we have and I'm excited about what they bring. Keep recruiting and Go Vols!!!

Ditto..

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

in response to volinlm:

Recruiting much easier at FSU. Another rung on the ladder for Jay. Wish him well.

I'm not so sure about that..Sanders was part of a sinking ship at UK and his resume' includes two prior stops he was fired from..I'm betting he makes it 3 in a row, and Jay goes down in flames with him.

SummittsCourt writes:

Tennessee got an upgrade as far as I'm concerned. That may come across as a knock on Jay Graham, but it is more of a compliment towards Gillispie. I think he will improve the running backs and bring in more top level talent.

SummittsCourt writes:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

Wrong....

Graham's departure is not at all about anything but the crude and condescending attitude of a couple of the long-term Butch Jones coaching staff.

Graham,is far better on paper than all but one of the Jones-gang...and better on paper as a coach---

and certainly better as a recruiter than his replacement.

A couple of smart mouthed comments by the new coaching staff---from people who had never been where Graham had been---

who were depending on the relationship with Jones to keep them rather than expertise, experience and recruiting ability---

cost us Jay Graham.

Now...Graham's replacement is a proven commodity...
and does not have to be beholden to the new system, now that a high-quality casualty in Jay Graham has occurred.
Where Graham had to put up with garbage...or be labeled a trouble maker or disloyal or arrogant...

Graham's replacement has Graham's departure as insulation to use, in case any more of the mid-major coaching staff that Jones brought with him...

decide to be rude to the new RB coach, as they were to Graham---who clearly could out-recruit all but the head coach---and that is only because the Head Coach can do things that other have to ask permission to do.

Just that simple. Losing Graham was a screwup. Nothing less...regardless of how it is positioned by the pro-Jones media and an administration accustomed to ducking bullets and able to breathe finally because of the all out campaign to promote Jones that has coopted all but one of the Knoxville media. Fact is, the media has lost it over Jones. Mostly that's because green reporters are at work...and UT plays them like fish.

If Fulmer had gotten this kind of help his last two years, he would have had better classes than Jones. After all, Fulmer had a coaching staff that had only won a National Championship,.,

Now that may not be as good as winning a co-championship at Cincinnati...

but at least it's something.

Dude, let it go already. Time to move on.

RockyMtnVol writes:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

Wrong....

Graham's departure is not at all about anything but the crude and condescending attitude of a couple of the long-term Butch Jones coaching staff.

Graham,is far better on paper than all but one of the Jones-gang...and better on paper as a coach---

and certainly better as a recruiter than his replacement.

A couple of smart mouthed comments by the new coaching staff---from people who had never been where Graham had been---

who were depending on the relationship with Jones to keep them rather than expertise, experience and recruiting ability---

cost us Jay Graham.

Now...Graham's replacement is a proven commodity...
and does not have to be beholden to the new system, now that a high-quality casualty in Jay Graham has occurred.
Where Graham had to put up with garbage...or be labeled a trouble maker or disloyal or arrogant...

Graham's replacement has Graham's departure as insulation to use, in case any more of the mid-major coaching staff that Jones brought with him...

decide to be rude to the new RB coach, as they were to Graham---who clearly could out-recruit all but the head coach---and that is only because the Head Coach can do things that other have to ask permission to do.

Just that simple. Losing Graham was a screwup. Nothing less...regardless of how it is positioned by the pro-Jones media and an administration accustomed to ducking bullets and able to breathe finally because of the all out campaign to promote Jones that has coopted all but one of the Knoxville media. Fact is, the media has lost it over Jones. Mostly that's because green reporters are at work...and UT plays them like fish.

If Fulmer had gotten this kind of help his last two years, he would have had better classes than Jones. After all, Fulmer had a coaching staff that had only won a National Championship,.,

Now that may not be as good as winning a co-championship at Cincinnati...

but at least it's something.

This sounds more thought out than the other post. You have my vote on the most plausible explanation for CJG's leaving. I don't put anything past the typical "good ol'boys club" mentality. This was prabably a good move for both parties. Remember, CPF placed CRS under the bus when things went bad. There are a lot of "BAD" decisions to point our fingers at. This is a new breed of coaches coming in from all directions. CBJ is our coach, he has his team of coaches, let's hope and pray that his formula works better than the previous two. I have written short and uninformed opinions before....going forward, the proof is on the sidelines on Saturday. UT can not afford another 3 years of the same BS....we need a winning team and coaching staff. CBJ has a much larger brick on his back than the previous two, sooooo...let's stand behind this coaching staff and hope for a 7+ winning season and a new begining.

Go Vols!!

givehim6 writes:

Could be he felt like a loner at his own home. Maybe he wanted to coach at a weaker conference or play somewhere he did ot fill like he was on the hot seat. Only Jay knows, good luck Jay.

claiborneh writes:

Graham's hype was weighted on the fact he was at South Carolina when Lattimore was landed. South Carolina was Lattimore's home state, so yippity skippity. Other than that he has never landed an elite RB. I'm not saying he was not a solid recruiter, because everyone who knows him speaks of his charisma, wit, and charm. But doesn't his recruiting record speak for itself-so far. Am I wrong about the former "VFL"?

volfaninutah writes:

that't 275,000 per year plus a 2 million buyout right.... just kiddin. I thought everyone that leaves UT gets a huge lump o' cash..

Snapshot writes:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

Wrong....

Graham's departure is not at all about anything but the crude and condescending attitude of a couple of the long-term Butch Jones coaching staff.

Graham,is far better on paper than all but one of the Jones-gang...and better on paper as a coach---

and certainly better as a recruiter than his replacement.

A couple of smart mouthed comments by the new coaching staff---from people who had never been where Graham had been---

who were depending on the relationship with Jones to keep them rather than expertise, experience and recruiting ability---

cost us Jay Graham.

Now...Graham's replacement is a proven commodity...
and does not have to be beholden to the new system, now that a high-quality casualty in Jay Graham has occurred.
Where Graham had to put up with garbage...or be labeled a trouble maker or disloyal or arrogant...

Graham's replacement has Graham's departure as insulation to use, in case any more of the mid-major coaching staff that Jones brought with him...

decide to be rude to the new RB coach, as they were to Graham---who clearly could out-recruit all but the head coach---and that is only because the Head Coach can do things that other have to ask permission to do.

Just that simple. Losing Graham was a screwup. Nothing less...regardless of how it is positioned by the pro-Jones media and an administration accustomed to ducking bullets and able to breathe finally because of the all out campaign to promote Jones that has coopted all but one of the Knoxville media. Fact is, the media has lost it over Jones. Mostly that's because green reporters are at work...and UT plays them like fish.

If Fulmer had gotten this kind of help his last two years, he would have had better classes than Jones. After all, Fulmer had a coaching staff that had only won a National Championship,.,

Now that may not be as good as winning a co-championship at Cincinnati...

but at least it's something.

"If Fulmer had gotten ths kind of help hs last two years"....what a load of krap! PF got complacent, wasn't recruiting as before, and couldn't win without David Cutcliff. He should have been fired immediately after losing at home to Wyo.

VolzsFan writes:

in response to Snapshot:

"If Fulmer had gotten ths kind of help hs last two years"....what a load of krap! PF got complacent, wasn't recruiting as before, and couldn't win without David Cutcliff. He should have been fired immediately after losing at home to Wyo.

Your an idiot....enjoy the change and mediocrity. I told you clowns we had the high water mark at UT by a long shot during the Hall of Famer's years and we will NEVER win at that level or close again.....EVER. You read the paper and spew words you do not even know what they mean. Go back to kicking the dog as you watch UT football keep falling behind Vanderbilt.

BTW, he was fired the Tuesday BEFORE the Wyoming game. As a former player I know what emotions go into a game. No one cared after a legend and Hall of Famer was fired. You are an absolute idiot.

JimmyJoe writes:

Goofy Randy Sanders...that's really all I have to say.

CroKev writes:

With all the coaching turnover the last few years, I'm somewhat relieved with Jones' long-term assistants. These guys have stuck with Jones through 3 universities and they know each other. Sure, I was hoping to land Tee Martin and keep Graham but I also see those guys as more prone to flip to another program if the right opportunity came up. Don't fault them a bit. However, I do have to say that it's refreshing to know that the core of Jones'
staff will be around for quite a while - something this program desperately needs. Now once they are successful, all bets are off as the big money of being an OC or DC will come calling...

Godless_Heathen writes:

in response to KnoxVegas88:

(This comment was removed by the site staff.)

He bleed on the field. What have you ever done, but criticize from the stands.

Godless_Heathen writes:

in response to Godless_Heathen:

He bleed on the field. What have you ever done, but criticize from the stands.

bled

stovepipedrinker writes:

in response to Snapshot:

"If Fulmer had gotten ths kind of help hs last two years"....what a load of krap! PF got complacent, wasn't recruiting as before, and couldn't win without David Cutcliff. He should have been fired immediately after losing at home to Wyo.

Hey Snappy, CPF was fired the week BEFORE the Wyoming game!

Rich_Is_Re-born writes:

in response to Snapshot:

"If Fulmer had gotten ths kind of help hs last two years"....what a load of krap! PF got complacent, wasn't recruiting as before, and couldn't win without David Cutcliff. He should have been fired immediately after losing at home to Wyo.

In 2001 we were one game away from playing for the NC. But I'm sure Cutcliffe deserves credit for that too, doesn't he? It wasn't just Cutcliffe, we lost several position coaches over the span of a few years that were big blows. That's the drawback to having a successful program. Fulmer went in the Hall of Fame the very moment he was eligible. He won a NC. I have the utmost respect for him and what he did here. You on the other hand...are on a blog smashing a man that is FAR SUPERIOR to you. I could never respect you.

UTvols33 writes:

in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE:

I'm not so sure about that..Sanders was part of a sinking ship at UK and his resume' includes two prior stops he was fired from..I'm betting he makes it 3 in a row, and Jay goes down in flames with him.

No kidding. Just like all the Fulmer lovers forget he couldn't beat Florida, people forget all the 5 yard quick outs on 3rd and 7, or the predictable WR screens Sanders would always run. It was so weird to watch UK's offense. It was like going back in time.

Nighthawk writes:

I suspect that Jay was partially blamed by HS coaches for Dooley's "do not recruit in TN" policy. It was easier to leave UT than mend fences, even with Jones at the helm. The HS coaches have long memories regarding Dooley and Jay was associated with that policy. Jay took the easy way out.

UTvols33 writes:

Good luck, Jay (as if you read this garbage). Obviously not about money. I think he wasn't comfortable with this group of yankee coaches. I wonder if Gillespie will bale after a little success and other schools come calling.

DwayneElizondoMountainDewHerbertCamacho writes:

I love the revisionist history that some of the posters engage in whenever we have a coach leave. "We're better off without him." "The new coach (no matter who that person is) is an upgrade." "We don't want him if he doesn't want to be here."

A year ago, when Graham was hired, you guys who are criticizing him were crowing like roosters on a pile of dung:

"Oh Lawdy! Jay Graham is here to save the day! Derek Dooley done hired him a superstar and he's a REAL Vol for life. Ooooh child, we gonna be back!"

Now you're the same ones claiming that he's mediocre and that Gillespie, who has never developed a talent anywhere close to Marcus Latimore, is an upgrade.

Ya'll kill me. Monte Kiffin was better than Chief. Dooley was an upgrade over Kiffin. Sal Sunseri was the GREATEST DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR IN THE HISTORY OF COORDINATION. And most of you think that Butch Davis is one recruiting class away from winning the British Open and the BCS Championship simultaneously because "he wants to be here."

SummittsCourt, you've raised this to an art form:

"Sunseri, Graham, and Pittman... When Dooley has the time and the opportunity to do a thorough job he can hire the best coaches." -Jan. 13, 2012

"Jay Graham was a good hire because he is a great RB coach and recuiter, not because he is a former Vol player." -June 30, 2012

"Good, my only complaint is that [Graham] waited this long to leave. He wasn't all that as a recruiter anyway." -Feb 25, 2013

(I mean...c'mon. Even you have to admit that that is pretty amazing. It's like watching a mental train switch tracks because the light changed color.)

Why can't everyone just admit that Graham was a good coach? Gillespie is an unknown. We'll see what he can do, maybe he's better, but he is probably a downgrade at that position. No harm saying that. It's just reality. Try it, you might like it.

DC82_Vol writes:

How many quality RBs did CJG recruit to TN? How many are on the books now that CRB is on staff?

I never could figure out why CJG could not get good RBs to sign at TN. Still can't figure it out. Looks like Dooley wasn't all that in recruiting either. Apparently, his coaching staff that bailed knew something.

Ayres_Hall writes:

Any Volunteer would be happy that Coach Jones got who he wanted in Robert Gillispie. Everythng else is of no matter.

Good luck Jay Graham.

vol98champ writes:

in response to Nighthawk:

I suspect that Jay was partially blamed by HS coaches for Dooley's "do not recruit in TN" policy. It was easier to leave UT than mend fences, even with Jones at the helm. The HS coaches have long memories regarding Dooley and Jay was associated with that policy. Jay took the easy way out.

I have heard that it was Dooley's attitude and arrogance and I have heard that Tn HS coaches wanted to be coddled by Dooley and got their feelings hurt when he didn't. Either way; what a sad juvenile situation. Sometimes I think our wagon is being pulled by a mule and a horse.

UTvols33 writes:

in response to Godless_Heathen:

He bleed on the field. What have you ever done, but criticize from the stands.

Maybe bled on the battle field protecting your rights and freedoms, drama queen. You don't know him. Fans have the right to criticize, and what gives you the right to judge?

RockyMtnVol writes:

in response to Johnny_Aint_No_Del_Shofner:

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Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! Dude, you're talking the same smack as the ones your supppose to be slaming...what is up with that? as for your CBJ rant...you might want to see a doctor and get some Xanax...life is not football and football is not life. Get over yourself and remember this is a sport of 18-20 year boys and nothing is promised...unless you sign a contract with Satan like some schools have done (ie. Bama and Ky)

Go Vols!!

ClearVol writes:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

Wrong....

Graham's departure is not at all about anything but the crude and condescending attitude of a couple of the long-term Butch Jones coaching staff.

Graham,is far better on paper than all but one of the Jones-gang...and better on paper as a coach---

and certainly better as a recruiter than his replacement.

A couple of smart mouthed comments by the new coaching staff---from people who had never been where Graham had been---

who were depending on the relationship with Jones to keep them rather than expertise, experience and recruiting ability---

cost us Jay Graham.

Now...Graham's replacement is a proven commodity...
and does not have to be beholden to the new system, now that a high-quality casualty in Jay Graham has occurred.
Where Graham had to put up with garbage...or be labeled a trouble maker or disloyal or arrogant...

Graham's replacement has Graham's departure as insulation to use, in case any more of the mid-major coaching staff that Jones brought with him...

decide to be rude to the new RB coach, as they were to Graham---who clearly could out-recruit all but the head coach---and that is only because the Head Coach can do things that other have to ask permission to do.

Just that simple. Losing Graham was a screwup. Nothing less...regardless of how it is positioned by the pro-Jones media and an administration accustomed to ducking bullets and able to breathe finally because of the all out campaign to promote Jones that has coopted all but one of the Knoxville media. Fact is, the media has lost it over Jones. Mostly that's because green reporters are at work...and UT plays them like fish.

If Fulmer had gotten this kind of help his last two years, he would have had better classes than Jones. After all, Fulmer had a coaching staff that had only won a National Championship,.,

Now that may not be as good as winning a co-championship at Cincinnati...

but at least it's something.

Just curious how you know about the "smart mouth" incidents

antonio14313 writes:

UT is still good at the running backs coaching position. end of story. go vols.

t

ClearVol writes:

in response to Johnny_Aint_No_Del_Shofner:

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Just so I'm clear.. you would have rather kept Dooley? Kiffin? Or are we back to CPF?
Two things to remember: First, before Nick Satan coached at LSU, he was also in the "bush" leagues.. Second, just because you are a great player, like our hero Jay Graham, it does not make you a great coach..

Relax man, it is what it is.

antonio14313 writes:

in response to volinlm:

Recruiting much easier at FSU. Another rung on the ladder for Jay. Wish him well.

i dunno about that. i just read that we have a 5 star QB "seriously interested" in UT!!! #1 pocket passer in the country in the 2014 class, coming out of oklahoma (i think). and, ya know about the snowball effect...

go vols!

t

antonio14313 writes:

in response to Ayres_Hall:

Any Volunteer would be happy that Coach Jones got who he wanted in Robert Gillispie. Everythng else is of no matter.

Good luck Jay Graham.

EXACTLY!!!

go vols!

t

antonio14313 writes:

in response to DwayneElizondoMountainDewHerbertCamacho:

I love the revisionist history that some of the posters engage in whenever we have a coach leave. "We're better off without him." "The new coach (no matter who that person is) is an upgrade." "We don't want him if he doesn't want to be here."

A year ago, when Graham was hired, you guys who are criticizing him were crowing like roosters on a pile of dung:

"Oh Lawdy! Jay Graham is here to save the day! Derek Dooley done hired him a superstar and he's a REAL Vol for life. Ooooh child, we gonna be back!"

Now you're the same ones claiming that he's mediocre and that Gillespie, who has never developed a talent anywhere close to Marcus Latimore, is an upgrade.

Ya'll kill me. Monte Kiffin was better than Chief. Dooley was an upgrade over Kiffin. Sal Sunseri was the GREATEST DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR IN THE HISTORY OF COORDINATION. And most of you think that Butch Davis is one recruiting class away from winning the British Open and the BCS Championship simultaneously because "he wants to be here."

SummittsCourt, you've raised this to an art form:

"Sunseri, Graham, and Pittman... When Dooley has the time and the opportunity to do a thorough job he can hire the best coaches." -Jan. 13, 2012

"Jay Graham was a good hire because he is a great RB coach and recuiter, not because he is a former Vol player." -June 30, 2012

"Good, my only complaint is that [Graham] waited this long to leave. He wasn't all that as a recruiter anyway." -Feb 25, 2013

(I mean...c'mon. Even you have to admit that that is pretty amazing. It's like watching a mental train switch tracks because the light changed color.)

Why can't everyone just admit that Graham was a good coach? Gillespie is an unknown. We'll see what he can do, maybe he's better, but he is probably a downgrade at that position. No harm saying that. It's just reality. Try it, you might like it.

i get on here for information (mainly from the articles, but some posters do actually come with useful facts) and for a good laugh. you gave me a good laugh. thanks!

go vols.

t

Snapshot writes:

in response to VolzsFan:

Your an idiot....enjoy the change and mediocrity. I told you clowns we had the high water mark at UT by a long shot during the Hall of Famer's years and we will NEVER win at that level or close again.....EVER. You read the paper and spew words you do not even know what they mean. Go back to kicking the dog as you watch UT football keep falling behind Vanderbilt.

BTW, he was fired the Tuesday BEFORE the Wyoming game. As a former player I know what emotions go into a game. No one cared after a legend and Hall of Famer was fired. You are an absolute idiot.

You are awfully brave calling someone an idiot sitting at your keyboard.

Would you like the chance to say that face to face, big boy?

vol98champ writes:

in response to antonio14313:

i get on here for information (mainly from the articles, but some posters do actually come with useful facts) and for a good laugh. you gave me a good laugh. thanks!

go vols.

t

Me too. I just wish there were more horses and less mules. Don't get me wrong; I like mules, but their hard headiness can get you killed if you get too close to their rear ends. Many times we have met the enemy and it is us.

VolFanInTheBoro (Inactive) writes:

in response to DwayneElizondoMountainDewHerbertCamacho:

I love the revisionist history that some of the posters engage in whenever we have a coach leave. "We're better off without him." "The new coach (no matter who that person is) is an upgrade." "We don't want him if he doesn't want to be here."

A year ago, when Graham was hired, you guys who are criticizing him were crowing like roosters on a pile of dung:

"Oh Lawdy! Jay Graham is here to save the day! Derek Dooley done hired him a superstar and he's a REAL Vol for life. Ooooh child, we gonna be back!"

Now you're the same ones claiming that he's mediocre and that Gillespie, who has never developed a talent anywhere close to Marcus Latimore, is an upgrade.

Ya'll kill me. Monte Kiffin was better than Chief. Dooley was an upgrade over Kiffin. Sal Sunseri was the GREATEST DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR IN THE HISTORY OF COORDINATION. And most of you think that Butch Davis is one recruiting class away from winning the British Open and the BCS Championship simultaneously because "he wants to be here."

SummittsCourt, you've raised this to an art form:

"Sunseri, Graham, and Pittman... When Dooley has the time and the opportunity to do a thorough job he can hire the best coaches." -Jan. 13, 2012

"Jay Graham was a good hire because he is a great RB coach and recuiter, not because he is a former Vol player." -June 30, 2012

"Good, my only complaint is that [Graham] waited this long to leave. He wasn't all that as a recruiter anyway." -Feb 25, 2013

(I mean...c'mon. Even you have to admit that that is pretty amazing. It's like watching a mental train switch tracks because the light changed color.)

Why can't everyone just admit that Graham was a good coach? Gillespie is an unknown. We'll see what he can do, maybe he's better, but he is probably a downgrade at that position. No harm saying that. It's just reality. Try it, you might like it.

It's Coach Butch Jones not Davis

VolFanInTheBoro (Inactive) writes:

in response to volthrunthru#658770:

Wrong....

Graham's departure is not at all about anything but the crude and condescending attitude of a couple of the long-term Butch Jones coaching staff.

Graham,is far better on paper than all but one of the Jones-gang...and better on paper as a coach---

and certainly better as a recruiter than his replacement.

A couple of smart mouthed comments by the new coaching staff---from people who had never been where Graham had been---

who were depending on the relationship with Jones to keep them rather than expertise, experience and recruiting ability---

cost us Jay Graham.

Now...Graham's replacement is a proven commodity...
and does not have to be beholden to the new system, now that a high-quality casualty in Jay Graham has occurred.
Where Graham had to put up with garbage...or be labeled a trouble maker or disloyal or arrogant...

Graham's replacement has Graham's departure as insulation to use, in case any more of the mid-major coaching staff that Jones brought with him...

decide to be rude to the new RB coach, as they were to Graham---who clearly could out-recruit all but the head coach---and that is only because the Head Coach can do things that other have to ask permission to do.

Just that simple. Losing Graham was a screwup. Nothing less...regardless of how it is positioned by the pro-Jones media and an administration accustomed to ducking bullets and able to breathe finally because of the all out campaign to promote Jones that has coopted all but one of the Knoxville media. Fact is, the media has lost it over Jones. Mostly that's because green reporters are at work...and UT plays them like fish.

If Fulmer had gotten this kind of help his last two years, he would have had better classes than Jones. After all, Fulmer had a coaching staff that had only won a National Championship,.,

Now that may not be as good as winning a co-championship at Cincinnati...

but at least it's something.

are you Bob Gilbert?

ACWLY writes:

I thought it was a money thing to start with but now know it wasn't... wonder why JAY would make a lateral move for the same amount of money???? Must not have liked something here... why can't KNS write an article on this, SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTING!

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