Vols complete class with 32 recruits to move 'program forward'

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Webb senior Todd Kelly Jr., center, puts on the UT hat, along with his grandmother, Mary Davis, left, and parents, Renee’ and Todd Kelly and Webb football coaches for a ceremonial signing to play football for the University of Tennessee during National Signing Day activities on Wednesday, Feb. 5, 2014. UT added 18 signees on Wednesday.

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AMY SMOTHERMAN BURGESS/NEWS SENTINEL Webb senior Todd Kelly Jr., center, puts on the UT hat, along with his grandmother, Mary Davis, left, and parents, Renee’ and Todd Kelly and Webb football coaches for a ceremonial signing to play football for the University of Tennessee during National Signing Day activities on Wednesday, Feb. 5, 2014. UT added 18 signees on Wednesday.

Vols complete 32-man group to move ‘program forward’

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Comments » 16

Tao_of_Tennessee writes:

I thought there were five signees whose father played at UT...Creamer, Kelly, Bates, Berry, and Berry.

broleb44#1437447 writes:

how does 247 come up with such a low rating, when scout has tn #2, and rivals has them #5, if 247 is using a composite of the major services, maybe they are using espn math, oh I see 247 added 2 plus 5 = 7, sorry I missed that.

ewoodbery writes:

in response to broleb44#1437447:

how does 247 come up with such a low rating, when scout has tn #2, and rivals has them #5, if 247 is using a composite of the major services, maybe they are using espn math, oh I see 247 added 2 plus 5 = 7, sorry I missed that.

I believe Scout currently has UT 4th and Rivals and ESPN have UT 5th.

But the Composite doesn't simply average the rankings. They use the points assigned to each player by the recruiting services to weigh each team before ranking.

As it happens, the 5, 6 and 7 teams in the 247Composite are all very close together. And in fact UT was 6th this morning before Auburn moved just ahead.

-- Evan

snowpeapod#263184 writes:

I doubt very seriously if Butch and his staff put a lot of stock in how the rating services rate his signees. I'm quite certain the recruiting staff spends 10 times more time evaluating these players than the scouting services do. Who do you trust more, Butch and his staff, or the recruiting services in determining the skill level of these players. For me it's a no brainer.

broleb44#1437447 writes:

in response to ewoodbery:

I believe Scout currently has UT 4th and Rivals and ESPN have UT 5th.

But the Composite doesn't simply average the rankings. They use the points assigned to each player by the recruiting services to weigh each team before ranking.

As it happens, the 5, 6 and 7 teams in the 247Composite are all very close together. And in fact UT was 6th this morning before Auburn moved just ahead.

-- Evan

just checked the latest rivals 5, scout 4, espn 5, usa 5. I suppose simple math no longer works. how did these 4 rating services come up with their ratings, I see no indications of a 7 from either. I am convinced your composite ranking is just bs, in order too make 247 different, and make people think you know bo, so they will subscribe to 247. No offense.

Caspian writes:

A large part of successful recruiting has to do with addressing specific needs of your team. You could recruit 10 5-star running backs, 8 5-star defensive ends, and 7 5-star quarterbacks. It would score high, but improve your team very little. And then there's the attitude/character/academic aspect, as well.

oldster writes:

in response to snowpeapod#263184:

I doubt very seriously if Butch and his staff put a lot of stock in how the rating services rate his signees. I'm quite certain the recruiting staff spends 10 times more time evaluating these players than the scouting services do. Who do you trust more, Butch and his staff, or the recruiting services in determining the skill level of these players. For me it's a no brainer.

Well, Jones recruited Peterman while he was at Cincinnati. What does that say about Jones' ability to assess talent?

FWBVol writes:

in response to oldster:

Well, Jones recruited Peterman while he was at Cincinnati. What does that say about Jones' ability to assess talent?

You must be very much the judge of football talent if you can ascertain what kind of QB Peterman is based on one half against Florida and mop up duty in three other games. I think I'll stick with the guys that are paid to know what they are doing.

gc_scvol writes:

in response to oldster:

Well, Jones recruited Peterman while he was at Cincinnati. What does that say about Jones' ability to assess talent?

Well, KNS continues to let you post your whinning BS on here, so what does that say about them. Why don't you just JUMP......JUMP, MAN, JUMP

jakethevolguy writes:

Speaking of math, how does Rivals have Ohio State as #3 with 1 five star, 15 four stars and 7 three stars and UT at #5 with 2 five stars, 16 four stars and 13 three stars? Their math just doesn't add up. Are they affiliated with ESPN? If so, that would answer that question.

johndavid writes:

in response to jakethevolguy:

Speaking of math, how does Rivals have Ohio State as #3 with 1 five star, 15 four stars and 7 three stars and UT at #5 with 2 five stars, 16 four stars and 13 three stars? Their math just doesn't add up. Are they affiliated with ESPN? If so, that would answer that question.

They have a rating more specific than just 3,4 or 5 stars. A player can be a high 4 or a low 4.

slb1zellwood#1421797 writes:

in response to gc_scvol:

Well, KNS continues to let you post your whinning BS on here, so what does that say about them. Why don't you just JUMP......JUMP, MAN, JUMP

If the oldster didn't whine about something what the heck else could he do with his miserable life. Some people were born to whine about everything including life itself

gc_scvol writes:

in response to slb1zellwood#1421797:

If the oldster didn't whine about something what the heck else could he do with his miserable life. Some people were born to whine about everything including life itself

It never ceases to amaze me, how some people have nothing better to do than complain. Must be really miserable in their little self imposed prisons. I can't imagine being that unhappy.

ewoodbery writes:

in response to broleb44#1437447:

just checked the latest rivals 5, scout 4, espn 5, usa 5. I suppose simple math no longer works. how did these 4 rating services come up with their ratings, I see no indications of a 7 from either. I am convinced your composite ranking is just bs, in order too make 247 different, and make people think you know bo, so they will subscribe to 247. No offense.

Simple math would be a poor way of determining the best team.

To use a simplified example,

Ranking A
1. Tennessee 100 points
2. Vanderbilt 50
3. Memphis 10

Ranking B
1. Vanderbilt 100
2. Tennessee 90
3. Memphis 10

Ranking C
1. Memphis 100
2. Tennessee 90
3. Vanderbilt 80

Tennessee's "average ranking" is No. 2. But that would not be an accurate reflection of the consensus, assuming you want to weigh each evaluation equally. In that case, Tennessee would be No. 1.

That's essentially what 247Sports Composite does.

gglardon50#417841 writes:

Wow,Wow. What a team Jones has gotten here. Start talking National championship!!!!!!!!!!!!!Thats right National Championship!!!!!!!
Oh not for Tennessee they will finish 5-7 again but someone will win the National Championship

gc_scvol writes:

in response to gglardon50#417841:

Wow,Wow. What a team Jones has gotten here. Start talking National championship!!!!!!!!!!!!!Thats right National Championship!!!!!!!
Oh not for Tennessee they will finish 5-7 again but someone will win the National Championship

June 6, 2007. Nuff said.

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