Analyst: James Franklin trying to destroy Vanderbilt recruiting class

James Franklin answers questions from reporters after he was introduced as Penn State's new football coach during a news conference on Saturday Jan. 11, 2014, in State College, Pa. (AP Photo/John Beale)

James Franklin answers questions from reporters after he was introduced as Penn State's new football coach during a news conference on Saturday Jan. 11, 2014, in State College, Pa. (AP Photo/John Beale)

On Saturday morning, Vanderbilt had 20 commitments and a 2014 football recruiting class that was ranked in the top 25 in the country.

By Sunday night, a day after coach James Franklin left for Penn State, the Commodores had what one recruiting site called three solid commitments.

It’s not uncommon for schools to lose recruits when a coach leaves, but what’s happening to Vanderbilt 23 days before signing day is not normal.

Two Vanderbilt commitments now say they are going to Penn State, and Franklin has offered scholarships to at least six others.

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slb1zellwood#1421797 writes:

No honor among thieves. Franklin was cut from the same cloth as Kiffin and his fat right hand man Goofy.
Franklin and "Bourbon Meyers" will be a joy to watch in the coming years.

irishcoffee writes:

no surprise here.

BrassMonkey writes:

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OrangePride writes:

Aha! The mask is off and Vandy fans now see the kind of man Franklin really is...and how it might have been that most others disliked him. I'm a VOL fan all the way, but always pulled for Vandy ... until Franklin got there. But congratulations Franklin, you have somehow now sunk even below Kiffin on the lack of integrity and jackel-like behavior scale. I wish Vandy good luck in their search, and nothing but misery and a Kiffen-like ending for Franklin.

underthehill writes:

what Franklin is doing stinks..but it is what most coaches do when they change to another school..and it is also likely to help UT if Vandy has a weak recruiting class..

FWBVol writes:

in response to underthehill:

what Franklin is doing stinks..but it is what most coaches do when they change to another school..and it is also likely to help UT if Vandy has a weak recruiting class..

Most coaches might take two or three commits with them when they switch schools, but nobody that I can remember in my close to 45 years of following college football has ever done something like this so quickly. Franklin, from what the story says, has basically torpedoed Vandy's recruiting class.

I don't know how many of the recruits UT was after, but if there are a couple of good defensive linemen in the group I'd like to see Butch go after them. As it is though we really don't have any room in the class right now for additional players.

bogey74 writes:

I learned all I needed to know about Franklin when he ran off the field at Neyland Stadium in 2011 giving our fans the finger and dropping the F bomb. He really is a classless piece of rubbish whose ability has been greatly overstated by the Nashville press.

OrangePride writes:

in response to bogey74:

I learned all I needed to know about Franklin when he ran off the field at Neyland Stadium in 2011 giving our fans the finger and dropping the F bomb. He really is a classless piece of rubbish whose ability has been greatly overstated by the Nashville press.

I fully agree with you that his ability is sorely overstated. He has benefited from a very favorable schedule and the fact he has met Tennessee, Florida, and Georgia in some significantly down situations. And as another poster said, we knew all we needed to know when he ran off Neyland shooting us the finger and the F word. I think PSU will come to regret this hire.

jakethevolguy writes:

I guess it's back to the toilette hole for the Commode Doors. LMAO!!

Slats writes:

How quickly our professed love & loyalties change!

Welcome to the real world!

Slats writes:

in response to bogey74:

I learned all I needed to know about Franklin when he ran off the field at Neyland Stadium in 2011 giving our fans the finger and dropping the F bomb. He really is a classless piece of rubbish whose ability has been greatly overstated by the Nashville press.

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You might say that "Classless" is how he's leaving Vanderbilt!

Tao_of_Tennessee writes:

in response to bogey74:

I learned all I needed to know about Franklin when he ran off the field at Neyland Stadium in 2011 giving our fans the finger and dropping the F bomb. He really is a classless piece of rubbish whose ability has been greatly overstated by the Nashville press.

Are you serious? He really did that?

pingkr62 writes:

I really hate it for Vandy. But this is the reward for selling your soul to the devil. What Franklin has done is dig the first shovel of dirt for his own grave. It's pretty obvious why Franklin didn't get the Maryland job. I'm sure someone at Maryland tried to warn the people at Vandy about Franklin, much like the folks in the Oakland Raiders organization tried to warn Tennessee about Kiffin. I'm sure someone in the athletic department at P.S.U. is second guessing this hire. I guess time will tell. G.B.O.!!!

fannotsheep writes:

This is a unique situation. If you are a student athlete wanting a great education and not rolling all your dice on an NFL career, Vandy is a great place to be, regardless who the coach is. But if football is not secondary -- and Franklin made it a place where guys with bona fide skills would sign -- then why would you stay there? The only good move Vandy made in football in the past 75 years was hiring Franklin. Why would a commit expect them to find another guy like him after they let him get away?

The comments here are priceless. UT fans sold their souls to ride the Lane Train and imagine if he had achieved the turnaround here that Franklin did. Compared to where Vandy had been, Kiffin would have had to go 32 - 7 or something, play in two BCS games and win a national championship to equal Franklin's stunning transformation of the long-dead football program in Nashville. They didn't (still don't) have an Athletic Director folks.

You can nitpick about ethics, right and wrong, etc. But Franklin was their Bruce Pearl times 3. He raised Lazarus. If they wanted to stay on the track he placed them on, they'd have dug deep in the alumni wallets and paid him enough to keep him. He is leaving for a school best known to 18-year-olds as the place that covered for a dirty old man who molested little boys.

Volborn writes:

in response to fannotsheep:

This is a unique situation. If you are a student athlete wanting a great education and not rolling all your dice on an NFL career, Vandy is a great place to be, regardless who the coach is. But if football is not secondary -- and Franklin made it a place where guys with bona fide skills would sign -- then why would you stay there? The only good move Vandy made in football in the past 75 years was hiring Franklin. Why would a commit expect them to find another guy like him after they let him get away?

The comments here are priceless. UT fans sold their souls to ride the Lane Train and imagine if he had achieved the turnaround here that Franklin did. Compared to where Vandy had been, Kiffin would have had to go 32 - 7 or something, play in two BCS games and win a national championship to equal Franklin's stunning transformation of the long-dead football program in Nashville. They didn't (still don't) have an Athletic Director folks.

You can nitpick about ethics, right and wrong, etc. But Franklin was their Bruce Pearl times 3. He raised Lazarus. If they wanted to stay on the track he placed them on, they'd have dug deep in the alumni wallets and paid him enough to keep him. He is leaving for a school best known to 18-year-olds as the place that covered for a dirty old man who molested little boys.

One thing no one mentions is how Franklin won most of his games with Bobby Johnson's players. Johnson probably would have won 7-9 games with those teams given the talent he had and the fall off of the SEC East. Franklin got too much credit for winning like he did at Vandy. I'm not saying he is not a very good coach, but we will really see what he is made of at Penn State. Last year, Missouri was in injury hell, this year, Georgia and Florida were. Tennessee was incompetently coached last year, and this year, Tennessee just didn't have the offensive fire power, and still should have won the game. Franklin is no Nick Saban, Urban Meyer or Pete Carroll. Ethically, he is very close to Meyer, but he is not some great x's and o's guru.

fannotsheep writes:

in response to Volborn:

One thing no one mentions is how Franklin won most of his games with Bobby Johnson's players. Johnson probably would have won 7-9 games with those teams given the talent he had and the fall off of the SEC East. Franklin got too much credit for winning like he did at Vandy. I'm not saying he is not a very good coach, but we will really see what he is made of at Penn State. Last year, Missouri was in injury hell, this year, Georgia and Florida were. Tennessee was incompetently coached last year, and this year, Tennessee just didn't have the offensive fire power, and still should have won the game. Franklin is no Nick Saban, Urban Meyer or Pete Carroll. Ethically, he is very close to Meyer, but he is not some great x's and o's guru.

Franklin's 2012 class was the highest ranked in school history, and the 2013 class was also right up there. Both were higher than UT if I remember correctly. Johnson may have recruited pretty well but he didn't win.

Say what you want but Franklin inspired his players and brought Vandy's football program back from the very dead, like skeleton buried for 50 years dead. I am a UT fan, but I give credit where it is due. I think this is terrible news for the kids at Vanderbilt, great news for UT. Mostly it is a sad commentary for the whole world when a school that cared only about football -- to the point of hiding ongoing atrocities being committed in its showers that could have been prevented and allowing the lives of more young children to be destroyed -- is considered a better job than one of the top academic institutions in the world.

Plasticman85 writes:

Sure Franklin out recruited the worst coach in UT History He also benefited from a very favorable schedule and only won 4 games vs. Teams that had a winning record. Had he played UT's schedule the past 3 years he probably would not have had a winning record. He never had to play Alabama or LSU

Rookie2 writes:

Whatever makes you feel better about it dude. You recruited and developed those relationships on someone else's dime. It's a lack of integrity, no different than what Orgeron did at UT. It'll catch up to you eventually.

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