Poll: Is the Tennessee baseball program headed in the right direction?
| Response | Percent | Votes | |
|---|---|---|---|
| No | 85% | 2145 | |
| Yes | 14% | 350 | |
| total votes: 2495 | |||
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GoVols_WinToday writes:
I want to know who the 10% are that voted Yes? Seriously? I was unaware Todd Raleigh could find a way to vote for himself that many times. CTR should be fired before the SEC Tourney begins, the guy is a complete joke.
rshoptaw writes:
3 years and nothing to show for it
Virgil_Tutwiler writes:
Who are the 20 people (at this moment) who answered yes?
Todd, Todd's wife, Todd's kids. Todd's bother. Todd's mother. The assistant coaches. The assistant coaches's wives.
westknoxvol24 writes:
I think it is time to move on... 3 years,would we give coach Dooley any longer?
UTVOLSRROCKN writes:
Why do you run poll questions??? You obviously don't pay attention to them..SEE ALL THE LIAR ARTICLES!
For the record, if it matters, I voted NO!!!!!
RoadTrip writes:
MH needs to do what's right for UT sports and the baseball program in partcular - not what's right politically to protect MH. If you are a coach and you sign on to run with the big dogs there are no options - win or go home. Our team has gone home for 3 straight years. Time for CTR to do likewise and for MH to go get the best that will be willing to build a showcase program over the long term like the Lady Vols coaches and players have done in softball.
NoSirRee writes:
We'll have to give him longer. Have you seen his buyout?
notautfan writes:
A better question should be can UT afford to be looking for another coach? At this point no coach, player, or fan will come to UT. Who would want to come to such an unwelcoming place that praises you one week and cans you the next? What is next getting rid of Summit when she fails to make the sweet 16?
vols2#227315 writes:
Needs to replace Todd, Hamilton, and Doodley. Get some real people at UT.
wagee12 writes:
Podd NoRally needs to be shown the door immediately if not sooner! He's starting to sound way too much like the former football coach at UT, Chubby Checkerboard!
usnavyvolfaninva_still_getting_paid writes:
Huh?
Okay, I'll admit, not much of a follower of Vols Baseball, so for me to respond in a baseball article is quite unique... reagardless of how you feel about Raleigh and Hamilton, what the heck does Dooley have to do with this???
usnavyvolfaninva_still_getting_paid writes:
stay classy, there, ace.
VOLsince68 writes:
I believe 8 National Championships speaks for itself. Coach Summit's name should never be uttered in the same sentence as Raleigh's IMO.
GO VOLS!!!!!!!!
beachvol1 writes:
No reason to have a 2nd rate baseball program...maybe the worse program in D-1 in our own state...don't understand why something isn't being done...
tanasi2 writes:
Just as Phil Fulmer should have been given one more year to fix his football program, Rod Delmonico should have also been given another year as the Baseball Coach!!!! Raleigh is NOT the answer for Vols baseball. He is clearly Mike Hamilton's worst hire!
GoUTVols3 writes:
Give him one more year, I don't think a coach should ever be given less than four years. I believe the talent level is higher now than when he came and like the previous blogger stated to show him the door would give the wrong message with future potential coaches and recruits. SEC is more dominant in baseball than in any other sport, so I think anything less than four years is cruel for Raleigh and the current players. Who would you go get to replace him, it's not like football and basketball where you can go buy a big name, whoever would come in would have to rebuild and implement which would take time. I don't see what the risk is of letting Raleigh stay on for one more year to determine his fate, if after next year we do not continue to improve, then let the rebuilding process start, it wouldn't make a huge difference then anyway but by not doing it you sacrifice the potential of having this all turn out very well.
donniedem writes:
We actually are going out and buying the biggest names for our football program? No that is what Alabama and Florida do and that is why they are the cream of the crop in the SEC and the nation. I believe Coach Saban is the highest paid coach in the nation at roughly 4 million a year and Urban Meyer is following close behind. We are spending maybe half that on little known(before the hire to UT)Derek Dooley. I hope it works out and proves Hamilton to be a brilliant athletic director. I don't feel the baseball program is headed in the right direction, but I agree with GoUTVols3 that unless Hamilton has a solid baseball name with a proven record to succeed Raleigh, then give Raleigh another year to correct the problems! Go Vols
olevole writes:
The guys who vote to keep the current baseball coach are vandy fans, coaches, and players. Since they had their SEC and NCAA bids nailed they could afford to drop a game or two to the vols. This helps them continue their domination of recruiting in most of state.
illinoisvolfan writes:
Whew, worse than Fast Lane and Ogre-ron, huh? You may be right, though. From what I hear, TR has all the personality of a worn-out pair of spikes. No matter what the college sport, the head coach needs a certain amount of charisma (for recruiting if nothing else) to go along with coaching ability.
FWBVol writes:
As I have stated on other posts, baseball is a different beast than football. A quaility coach should be able to turn a baseball team around in three years.
My reasoning behind that is that most of the best baseball players are drafted and sign after there junior years. There are a few exceptions, such as LSU's Blake Dean, that came back so he could show he was an every day position player.
Baseball is probably the easiest sport to plug in a junior college transfer. And, unlike basketball and football, high school baseball in Tennessee is generally considered to be fairly competitive with other states in the Southeast so a good coach can build a program with a lot of Tennessee kids.
Raleigh's teams have improved, but not enough.
With eight teams making the SEC tournament each year, three years, IMO, is enough time for him to prove if he could get the job done. It seems to me he has shown he can't.
geraldodell#1377039 writes:
TR duly noted pitching was our achilles heel. Well who is responsible for that. Morgado was coming back despite having been drafted and did he get better this year? A good coach has to be able to make his pitchers better not worse and I haven't seen that happen. Time to get a new coach.
us43137415#376444 writes:
Will you guys stay on point please?
We are not talking about football and Dooley, basketball and Pearl/Summitt.. it is dumb and a waste of good thought to put UT baseball in the categories of other UT sports. They do not compare, the salaries do not compare, the goals of the programs do not compare. You're comparing a Lexus to a bicycle.
STOP talking about other UT sports and coaches in this thread. If you want to talk about football and basketball and how Hamilton relates to those sports, go someplace else.
I'm very angry here because Season #3 under Raleigh is a sorry bust, too, and I do not apologize about being furious with Raleigh and Hamilton.
But back to the point... This thread is about whether readers (assuming they are UT baseball fans), think the program is headed in the right direction.
It is not.
The question now is, will this poll, or anything we write in this thread, be listened to by Mike Hamilton?
My gut tells me no. My gut tells me he has already made up his mind. Raleigh may get two or three more years out of Hamilton. And that's unfortunate. Raleigh needs to go now..he's no good for the baseball program, he's taking it nowhere, the players learn nothing from him, and it'll be an absolute miracle if most of them who aren't graduating, come back. Some will contact the MLB teams that drafted them and say, take me now.. others will transfer to Division II teams, and even some will assume things can't get better than Raleigh's Debacle and just get out of baseball altogether.
GET RID OF RALEIGH NOW. DO NOT WAIT FOR HIM TO DRAG THE UT BASEBALL PROGRAM AND THE TEAM DOWN ANY FURTHER.
One more thing.. apparently, some people still do not get it about Delmonico. Delmonico is gone because he did not smooze the athletic financial backers, and did not bother to show up events they held, where money is promised. A head coach is required to attend those..that's why other coaches go on the Vol Caravan. Delmonico NEVER did that, nor did he even attend little, private get-togethers held by folks who give UT lots of money. I know. I was several of them, and was ANGRY when he did not bother to show up, or sometimes even call that he would not be there. Sending an assistant coach was not an option to financial backers. Delmonico was fired as he should have been, he took his kid with him and good riddance. I'm also glad any possible ties to UT were severed when his youngest boy decided not to go to UT to be close to home. I don't care how many tournaments Delmonico took Tennessee to. If you snub the financial backers, they stop giving money. If I see another Delmonico mention, I'm copying this note to them.. their hero is a snobby, stuck-up, washed up, has-been of a coach who is where he should be...out of a job.
us43137415#376444 writes:
Apparently, some people still do not get it about Delmonico.
DELMONICO WAS, AND PROBABLY STILL IS, A LOSER.
Delmonico is gone because he did not smooze the athletic financial backers, and did not bother to show up events they held, where money is promised. A head coach is required to attend those..that's why coaches go on the Vol Caravan. Delmonico NEVER did that, nor did he even attend little, private get-togethers held by folks who give UT lots of money. I know. I was several of them, and was ANGRY when he did not bother to show up, or sometimes even call that he would not be there. He felt it was beneath him to lower himself to the level of showing up to something that might look like he was there, just to get money.
But that's how the game is played. It was part of his JOB to be there.
Sending an assistant coach is not an option to people who give the university big bucks. If you don't see the relation here, you don't understand how a university athletic department works.
Delmonico was fired as he should have been, he took his kid with him and good riddance. I'm also glad any possible ties to UT were severed when his youngest boy decided not to go to UT to be close to home. I don't care how many tournaments Delmonico took Tennessee to, and I don't care what he's doing in the Netherlands. He can go there, for all I care (he's old now, and the weather there is good for people his age). If you snub your program's financial backers, they stop giving money and that's what it's all about.
Because he thought himself above and better than everybody else, your "hero" is a snobby, stuck-up, washed up, has-been of a coach who is exactly where he needs to be... away from head coaching on the collegiate level.
WHICK IS EXACTLY WHERE TODD RALEIGH NEEDS TO BE, TOO.
volboy81 writes:
yeah, really! There were Bama fans in the late 60s who wanted to fire Bear Bryant and Georgia fans in the late 70s who wanted Dooley out. Good thing AD's dont always listen to irrational, uneducated, clueless fans!
scott_m99 writes:
clearly not
Futurecoach16 writes:
I disagree with that post about it being easier to rebuild a baseball program than football. Baseball players can still be drafted out of high school and after any year as long as they are 21 years old. Therefore, some players leave after their sophomore years or just straight out of high school. College baseball coaches are not just competing with other schools for the top players, but also with the millions of dollars the MLB offers.
Raleigh has started to actually get attention from players that are good enough to get drafted out of high school, unlike the previous coach.
crappieking writes:
LOL. Very true. It's mainly about the W's, but there is other factors as well. Thanks for bringing them out.
DiamondVolFan21 writes:
You're right, the talent level is better now than when he came , yet his SEC record is virtually identical the last 3 years. What is cruel to the players would be keeping this idiot around for another year. Who would you get to replace him you ask? I believe another poster said it best a while back when he said a rock could do a better job than Raleigh! And whoever does come in doesn't have much rebuilding to do. Mark my words, with the talent already on this team, if you get rid of Raleigh I guarantee you will see a vast improvement in the W/L record next year. Go Vols!
DiamondVolFan21 writes:
Sad when politics takes precedence over results.
us43137415#376444 writes:
Hey guys, figure this one out..
I could not go to the final game, because of a previous commitment, so I thought I would listen online as I sometimes do.
The UT BASEBALL GAME ON THE RADIO AND PUT ON THE MEN'S ONLINE SITE....WAS THE LADY VOLS SOFTBALL GAME AGAINST VIRGINIA.
I tried to call to find out why they were giving us that game on the men's baseball site because I wanted to hear what I knew would be UT's last game of the season, but I couldn't get through. It was the softball game broadcast. I tried several times to pull the men's game up, even rebooted the computer twice..
Still, the women's softball game was being broadcast on the MEN'S baseball site, where you can "Launch the Game Tracker," then "Click here to listen to the game."
Apparently, EVEN UT WAS ASHAMED OF RALEIGH'S COACHING.. THEY WOULDN'T EVEN BROADCAST THE GAME.
How's that for believing in your coach?
Even now, nobody will give me a straight answer except, "CBS Sports (the link sponsor) screwed up."
Yeah right.
FWBVol writes:
Yes, but most kids that sign out of high school are going to be at UT or any other school through their junior years. And, as I stated before, JC transfers have a bigger impact on college baseball than perhaps any other sport.
All the other teams are working within the same restrictions of age and kids being drafted out of high school.
My point is that most of the best players have moved on by the end of their third year so after three years Raleigh's team should have been competitive.
Futurecoach16 writes:
You keep saying that, but when Fulmer would say "I'll have to look at the tape", people would get pissed when he wouldn't speak his mind about what went wrong. What do you want? You got a guy that gives explanations, yet you STILL call for his head. The grass is always greener, huh?
Futurecoach16 writes:
I understand that. I honestly think, though, that with the improvements in the APR due to the emphasis the new coaching staff has put in to having the kids attend class and do well, even better players will come. That's why I think he should be given at least one more, if not two more years. Let the APR continue to rise and get the scholarships back, and then things can really fall into place. If things don't work out once those things get back, then yes, he should be let go. I do know that it is a business. The biggest problem this year was a lack of depth on the mound. When more quality pitchers come in, and the way the bats have drastically improved over the past three years, I think there will be a lot more W's.
tgiles1944#654264 writes:
Volunteer fans
I don't believe they give enough scholarships for baseball. Most of the players on college teams really don't have a baseball scholarship they are relying on parents or other forms of aide to attend college.
Something is wrong with Tennesse's baseball team!
Is it the coach or coaches?
Is it lack of dedication with too much partying,drinking,smoking pot and having a blast?
Is it no pitching?
Is it not enough truly good players?
Is it players that don't play as a team with true heart and desire?
Is it that Florida,Alabama,Auburn,LSU,Miss and others are that much better than Tennessee and their facilities?
Someone has to be held accountabile for producing a semi- mediocre team for 3 years.
In our educational system of today it is the teachers fault as administrators,parents and students can do no wrong in our modern day society of looking for scape goats for everything.
You tell me my friend who's at fault for Tennessee's fair baseball team?
atasnelzpace writes:
Please fire CTR! If he's allowed to stay, it will only hurt the players AND the program! If the stands are filled this year, how will they get filled next year??
ChuckH writes:
The saddest example of our program: all the excitement and positivity when we had the chance to wrap up 8th place in the SEC. Is that what we have grown to accept around here with Hamilton? I sure hope not.
Futurecoach16 writes:
You also forget that those 10.53 scholarships have to be divided among 35 players. That means if every player was on a scholarship, he would only have a scholarship for 30% of his schooling. That extra full scholarship is greatly needed in order to convince a player to come to school instead of accepting that million dollar signing bonus to go pro. Yes, the state has the HOPE scholarship, but there are a lot of rules regarding how much money will be awarded, if any at all. I was one that had a bad freshman year, and it took me 2 years to regain that scholarship.
tmartin writes:
CPS shoulda been gone long time ago.
DiamondVolFan21 writes:
I know this thread is supposed to be about baseball, but please explain your logic on this one....this otta be good!
RoadTrip writes:
Since this thread is still available - despite the local media's desire to drum up support for a Vol spot in the NCAA's, which was obviously very silly, no spot for the 10th best team in the SEC. Big surprise.
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