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MikeNPS writes:

Perhaps the choice should be "lack of coaching".

Whizzer writes:

Scheme or players? Please! Who is responsible for the scheme & players? The defense has trouble lining up, much less such fundamentals as tackling, assignments or getting off blocks. That begins & ends with poor coaching & not just the defensive coaches. "Bubber" Dooley must go, NOW!!!!

keepitreal4vols writes:

give us a fill in the blank question next time you ask about the defensive problems.

COACHSARGE writes:

coaches don't make tackles or cover receivers...by the time you get to a major Div. I college you SHOULD have a good grasp on the concept of tackling....its not the coaching.

Razor784 writes:

in response to COACHSARGE:

coaches don't make tackles or cover receivers...by the time you get to a major Div. I college you SHOULD have a good grasp on the concept of tackling....its not the coaching.

This same group of players finished 28th in the country in total defense last year, the one thing thing that changed over the summer was the coaching staff, it's gotta be the coaching.

SignalMtnVol writes:

in response to COACHSARGE:

coaches don't make tackles or cover receivers...by the time you get to a major Div. I college you SHOULD have a good grasp on the concept of tackling....its not the coaching.

That's true, BUT, if you are coaching a squad that finished 28th overall in total defense last year, they tackled pretty well then, right?

The coaches have to reinforce fundamental tackling. You have 22 players in the 2 deep from 22 different HS programs. They have to be taught the same, correct, fundamentals. That, my friend, is coaching.

shipperman#280095 writes:

Enjoy your retirement on us Coach Dooley

BigOrangeFever76 (Inactive) writes:

D. Sal Sunseri

burpee_von_rotweiler_IV writes:

Why isn't choice "D" shown?

D: All the above.

Orange_Nation_23 writes:

Some of you that post cannot be watching the games closely, because it is not the coaching….ITS THE PERSONAL. The defensive backs would not be (and should not be) starting at most programs. Think about it; the players (DB) that have left: Would be seniors – Janzen Jackson, Darren Myles, Mike Edward; Would be juniors – Dave Clark, Eddrick Loften, Pat Martin and ATH Marcques Dixon; Injuries – Brian Randolph.

If it was the coaching, the offense would be horrible too.

And if you haven’t heard as well, the coaches have had to simplify the defense to the barebones. No blitzes, no tight bump and run, etc. because they need the most ppl possible in the backfield to help the DBs.

--- I will continue to post this until ppl realize this ---

spencer1989#206886 writes:

Actually, it can be all of the above....But I had to choose one (where it starts at). While watching the game Saturday, I almost felt like every starting defensive player should be benched until they wanted to play better....And replace them with the cheerleaders. Maybe the cheerleaders could play better defense. But in all honesty, I have see better defenses on the high school level than what we put on the field on Saturday.

RichmondKyVol writes:

Why was their no choice for "All of the Above?"

thevoice writes:

Scheme? We've been in the 4-3 for 95% of the time and we were 28th nationally in last year's 4-3.

Players? See scheme above.

Coaches? None available.

Lack of coaches? Yes.

VOLS34 writes:

D - All of the Above

calvol writes:

The biggest problem is that it's Monday morning after giving up 700 plus yards to a middle of the pack sunbelt team and Sunseri is still the D coach.

VOLS_SEC_RULES writes:

D - all of the above

maciste54 writes:

in response to burpee_von_rotweiler_IV:

Why isn't choice "D" shown?

D: All the above.

Ditto !

dvol writes:

The problems with this defense are to many to name. They are slow, they can't tackle, they can't cover anyone. they have quit on this coach. They don't play with the fire and passion this coach shows on the sidelines. The players can say all the right things but, if you watch them play they have quit on this coach and the University of Tennessee. They have shown no improvement at all on defense. When you blitz 6&7 guys and don't even come close to a sack it has to be effort. I would also point out that their talent level is not very good. Tennessee should be able to recruit better players than this.D.D.is a good man and would make a great A.D. but, i'm sorry to say as a football coach he is lacking the things that would make him a good coach.

MurfVol77 writes:

Anyone who thinks it is coaching has never actually looked into what it takes (and how long) to switch from the 4-3 to a 3-4 system. Look at GA a few years ago they were ready to burn Richt at the stake they were so bad. It takes TIME, LIKE 2-3 YRS!!!!

SouthPaVol writes:

in response to calvol:

The biggest problem is that it's Monday morning after giving up 700 plus yards to a middle of the pack sunbelt team and Sunseri is still the D coach.

gotta agree. KY let Joker go, but TN is in a dilemma--to fire the entire coaching staff, or just Sal. I'm wondering which way it will go.

Offense: Not a big Chaney fan, but the rest of his staff are tops. I really like C Jay Graham and his progress with our running backs; Pittman has our O line working like a well-oiled machine. Our tight ends coach is tops; our receivers' coach is a great recruiter (obviously) and doing well.

My left handed comment: Still don't think CDD is gone. I don't think Dooley is our man, but not sure changing right now is our best play. Question is, can we hack the DC and keep our offense? Or more accurate, will Dooley cut Sal?

pcorange writes:

I don't see how anyone can blame this on the players when the one thing that has changed from last year when the D finished 28th in the country under Justin Wilcox to this year when they are 103rd is that Wilcox is no longer here and Sunseri is. The players, if anything, are more experienced than they were last year. Even if CDD stays, I think Sal has to be demoted or fired and get someone in here who can run this defense. They are an utter embarrassment.

dcap8424 writes:

in response to Orange_Nation_23:

Some of you that post cannot be watching the games closely, because it is not the coaching….ITS THE PERSONAL. The defensive backs would not be (and should not be) starting at most programs. Think about it; the players (DB) that have left: Would be seniors – Janzen Jackson, Darren Myles, Mike Edward; Would be juniors – Dave Clark, Eddrick Loften, Pat Martin and ATH Marcques Dixon; Injuries – Brian Randolph.

If it was the coaching, the offense would be horrible too.

And if you haven’t heard as well, the coaches have had to simplify the defense to the barebones. No blitzes, no tight bump and run, etc. because they need the most ppl possible in the backfield to help the DBs.

--- I will continue to post this until ppl realize this ---

"If it was the coaching, the offense would be horrible too." What!?

The offense and defense have no connection. Different coaches all the way around. Post this all you want, but it's never going to make sense.

dcap8424 writes:

in response to amyinsparta:

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Buko... really? That's how you think you spell beaucoup? Interesting. And you're a teacher none the less. Please stay in Sparta.

utclyde16 writes:

Should have had lack of player intelligence as a choice!!!! Other teams can handle this type of D, Whyyyyyyyyyyy can't UT players.

leedsvol2007 writes:

in response to COACHSARGE:

coaches don't make tackles or cover receivers...by the time you get to a major Div. I college you SHOULD have a good grasp on the concept of tackling....its not the coaching.

I am in total agreement. Watching LSU & Alabama on Saturday it was obvious we are lacking in speed and experience.

Our most athletic players are freshman, Maggitt is gutting it out and playing, Johnson is a good player but the lack of speed among upper class defensive backs and the defensive line is obvious.

It looks like help is coming from the recruiting lists but all we can ask is for these kids to play hard and do their best.

10ECBob writes:

All of the above; Weak personnel, weak coaching are the main issues in my opinion. They cannot line up nor tackle, that's coaching. Lathers cannot do it all by himself, that's personnel.
It's not a game of X's & O's anymore, it's Bob's & Joe's. We cannot get FL & GA players where the good HS programs are.
However, Jon will solve that!!!

fundamentals83 writes:

in response to MurfVol77:

Anyone who thinks it is coaching has never actually looked into what it takes (and how long) to switch from the 4-3 to a 3-4 system. Look at GA a few years ago they were ready to burn Richt at the stake they were so bad. It takes TIME, LIKE 2-3 YRS!!!!

When you are on the hot seat, why in the helk would you try to put in a D wich takes 2-3 years to teach? Poor choice!!!

VolnDallas writes:

With a defense this bad, there is plenty of blame to go around.

Personally, I think it is less the Xs and the 0s and more the Johnnys and the Joes. We lack speed at practically every defensive position. On practically every pass play our defensive backs have their back to the LOS and are trying to keep up with the wide receivers. Our defensive line is also slow and doesn't get any push, even against smaller offensive linemen. A vicious circle. Opponent QBs with all day to throw, which places even more pressure on our slow defensive backfield.

jk7276 writes:

Several have aluded to poor tackling. However, before you can tackle someone you have to at least be in the picture, which our D players have not been. All of the big plays weren't the result of someone missing a tackle but of not even being there.

Thumper72 writes:

in response to fundamentals83:

When you are on the hot seat, why in the helk would you try to put in a D wich takes 2-3 years to teach? Poor choice!!!

The D has been running 4-3 most of the time in the last few games and are if anything worse. The DL seem glued to the blockers, LB's have a deer-in-the-headlights look during play-fakes or draws, DB's are out of position and can't make a tackle. D play calling is a mystery. 3rd and 3 and DB's are 10 yds off the receivers?? Opposing QB's have way too much time to throw and even good DB's have trouble with that and our's are a long way from good. Sunseri should go now and start a reboot for next year.

oldster writes:

I voted for coaching because the combination of players and coaches was not offered. Communication is a two way street. Our players lack the football IQ to understand more than one basic scheme, against one basic offense. Many of them went to Jr. colleges and you are aware of why, right?

oldster writes:

Nothing! Do not change a thing! Keep Dooley, and that divided coaching responsibility for the db's. I have become an Oregon fan, intend to go to the Vol game there next year, and have never seen a college team score 100 points before. If the Vols keep the aforementioned individuals, I will get to see something on my bucket list.

oldster writes:

in response to oldster:

Nothing! Do not change a thing! Keep Dooley, and that divided coaching responsibility for the db's. I have become an Oregon fan, intend to go to the Vol game there next year, and have never seen a college team score 100 points before. If the Vols keep the aforementioned individuals, I will get to see something on my bucket list.

Sorry, I did not forget Sunseri's dubious contributions to the Vols' defense, I just made a typo. For the sake of the Ducks, my bucket list, and college football history, keep Sunseri as defensive co-ordinator.

oldster writes:

in response to amyinsparta:

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I am in total agreement with this post. You must be a teacher. The only thing that I will add is that even students with limited IQ can learn when properly motivated. That can be provided, to at least some extent, by a good teacher or coach. UT lacks such in football.

oldster writes:

in response to leedsvol2007:

I am in total agreement. Watching LSU & Alabama on Saturday it was obvious we are lacking in speed and experience.

Our most athletic players are freshman, Maggitt is gutting it out and playing, Johnson is a good player but the lack of speed among upper class defensive backs and the defensive line is obvious.

It looks like help is coming from the recruiting lists but all we can ask is for these kids to play hard and do their best.

The big reason speed is needed in for defense is to erase mistakes. I have heard this for years. I have, in fact, heard Tim Priest say this and that because he was not fast, he could not play today. Well, I respectfully disagree with Mr. Priest on that last part. He could play. If one does not make a mistake, there are no errors to erase. Tim Priest and the rest of that record breaking defense, made very few. I might also add that if one's mistake involves moving in the wrong direction, the faster one is, the more yardage needs to be made up than one would if one were slower (i.e. the disadvantage evens out the advantage of speed).

OrangePride writes:

Spin it however you like; for the talent level on the defensive side of the ball (and yes, I know we're not Alabama or LSU, but there are any number of highly recruited guys), it is more than obvious they are ALL underperforming. From what I can see, it is NOT lack of intensity or desire. But we are losing 1 on 1 battles all over the field....and often to 2, 1, and no-star guys! Whether it's technique, focus, agility, or whatever, it ALL gets placed on the coaching doorstep. We cannot go from the 28th rated national defense to the 121st defense with the very same guys and come to any other conclusion. Buy out or not.....it is PAST TIME for a change to all of them. And don't bother telling me about a negeative fallout re: any recruits... if you can't coach 'em when they get here, it just doesn't matter.

Orange_Nation_23 writes:

And to all the ppl talking about UT in a 4-3...AGAIN are not really looking at the game. The defense has been playing a nickel D, hence the four down linemen. They need as many DBs as possible.

Whizzer writes:

in response to Orange_Nation_23:

Some of you that post cannot be watching the games closely, because it is not the coaching….ITS THE PERSONAL. The defensive backs would not be (and should not be) starting at most programs. Think about it; the players (DB) that have left: Would be seniors – Janzen Jackson, Darren Myles, Mike Edward; Would be juniors – Dave Clark, Eddrick Loften, Pat Martin and ATH Marcques Dixon; Injuries – Brian Randolph.

If it was the coaching, the offense would be horrible too.

And if you haven’t heard as well, the coaches have had to simplify the defense to the barebones. No blitzes, no tight bump and run, etc. because they need the most ppl possible in the backfield to help the DBs.

--- I will continue to post this until ppl realize this ---

It's settled then. We'll keep the same coaches who will in turn recruit & sign terrible players. Injuries & deferments are a part of college football. Every team has to deal with similar circumstances. The winners make the best of a situation & move on. The losers whine about what could have been.... if only......

Whizzer writes:

in response to OrangePride:

Spin it however you like; for the talent level on the defensive side of the ball (and yes, I know we're not Alabama or LSU, but there are any number of highly recruited guys), it is more than obvious they are ALL underperforming. From what I can see, it is NOT lack of intensity or desire. But we are losing 1 on 1 battles all over the field....and often to 2, 1, and no-star guys! Whether it's technique, focus, agility, or whatever, it ALL gets placed on the coaching doorstep. We cannot go from the 28th rated national defense to the 121st defense with the very same guys and come to any other conclusion. Buy out or not.....it is PAST TIME for a change to all of them. And don't bother telling me about a negeative fallout re: any recruits... if you can't coach 'em when they get here, it just doesn't matter.

I agree! One other thing about some things that have been said about there being no need to stress the fundamentals because players should already know them. At the beginning of any season, a good coaching staff will start with a review of the fundamentals. Furthermore, good coaches are going to recognize when players aren't using good fundamentals and re-emphasize the need to do so. They are not going to throw up their hands and say, "They should already know that". Football is a relatively simple game. Things you can't coach are speed and size. Winning teams usually execute the basics of blocking, tackling & protecting the football better than the other team. A good defensive team will beat a great offensive team more times than not. That's what Saban, Miles & Spurrier know, and live by.

1volsfantiredoflosing writes:

D. All of the above. This is by far the worst defence in TN. history, I mean look at the effort or lack of it, Troy, come on 721 yards, this years team will hold this record for along time to come, I hope.

traderjoe writes:

Unquestionably, it's W's fault...just ask OB.

tedstryker1980 writes:

in response to Orange_Nation_23:

Some of you that post cannot be watching the games closely, because it is not the coaching….ITS THE PERSONAL. The defensive backs would not be (and should not be) starting at most programs. Think about it; the players (DB) that have left: Would be seniors – Janzen Jackson, Darren Myles, Mike Edward; Would be juniors – Dave Clark, Eddrick Loften, Pat Martin and ATH Marcques Dixon; Injuries – Brian Randolph.

If it was the coaching, the offense would be horrible too.

And if you haven’t heard as well, the coaches have had to simplify the defense to the barebones. No blitzes, no tight bump and run, etc. because they need the most ppl possible in the backfield to help the DBs.

--- I will continue to post this until ppl realize this ---

The "PERSONAL"? You mean the personnel. The head coach is still responsible. He recruited most of them.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

We just have a bad defense and the blaming game is useless. Coaching? players? both? Head coach? Former coaches? We 're all just guessing on most of it. But I don't care who the coach is you have to have players who will do what needs to be done. F
Football is not the rocket science some want to make it. If the offensive player has the ball someone needs to go after him. Some one needs to protect the middle run and short passes. Someone has the edges. Some one should put pressure on the QB. Some one has to prevent the mid to long pass. Every player on the defense has to know how to tackle. Every lineman needs to know how to shed blockers in a way that will let them tackle off either side of the opposing player.

Ok it's a lot of little things that can turn big when they don't happen. I don't have an answer and it appears that the defense doesn't either. But they're learning at least we hope so. And that's the gripe on here. Not many see what the players are learning on D. Maybe they should just let the players get mad and take it out on opposing offenses. Forget the schemes and tell them to go at the offense instead of thinking so much. I don't know.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

The above 1st paragraph ends with an F. Not meaning anything but an accident from the word Football. I don't use the word most of you are assuming. Really I don't.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

in response to tedstryker1980:

The "PERSONAL"? You mean the personnel. The head coach is still responsible. He recruited most of them.

Which head coach? Kiffin? fulmer? Personally I don't think Fulmer ever had any really bad recruits. Kiffin did alright but can't coach 'em(see S. Cal.) The dude's point about the offense improving is at least a very good argument if not a great one. We have a very competitive offense. We knew that going in to the year. We also had a suspect Defense coming in. Especially with some of the personnel losses which btw I don't think were Dooley's fault.

If Dooley's had trouble recruiting then I blame media and short sighted fans. Thinking that Dooley was going to win big his first year is imho ignorant. Thinking he'd improve the second year with all new players is ignorant. Expecting about what we've done this season was a fair observation though many of us got excited and expected more. 8-5 with a bowl win is still possible if not exactly believable.(the bowl win that is). But in all honesty we have played with the top teams in the country and done well. Troy has an extremely good offense even when they aren't playing UT. They hung in there with Miss State at least. It's really hard to understand the hate that's been here since day one of Dooley's hire. The sad part is that some of these posters think they are UT fans. They don't seem to be concerned about chasing away recruits. They think some "human" savior will walk in and proclaim UT as #1 and recruits will flock to the banner. Well if Dooley is fired I hope they're right. But the truth is whether Dooley stays or goes we have to rebuild. We'll have to get stronger and speedier players who can understand what the word "scheme" means. If the current defensive players don't like the allusion there then they need to step up and prove some people wrong instead of hiding behind their coaches and letting them take the blame. The coaches need to back their players up and defy the media. Hart needs to sit back and observe it all without any comment. He's not paid to banter the media!?? Ok I'm not certain what he's paid for but since when did AD's get pushed to the forefront of sports pages?

I still like the way Dooley handles the media. Don't give in to media gossip. GOSSIP!! It does stir up controversy however.

mocsandvolsfan writes:

in response to Whizzer:

It's settled then. We'll keep the same coaches who will in turn recruit & sign terrible players. Injuries & deferments are a part of college football. Every team has to deal with similar circumstances. The winners make the best of a situation & move on. The losers whine about what could have been.... if only......

I despise those two words. "winners" and "losers". This world was not designed for anyone to be "losers". The word "winners" is a word made for making oneself better than others just by saying it. No learning. No action. Just say, "I'm a winner" and it's automatically true. "They're all a bunch of losers". I said it. It must be true. Hey!! It has nothing to do with how hard a person is working or trying or anything except whether he wins or loses a game. How tall and good looking a person is decides our government leaders. It doesn't really matter how good a person is as long as they can get the best "zinger" in!

That said I DO realize that my pet peaves are showin'. I'll shut up now.

Go Vols Go Big Orange.

Volunteer-Varmint writes:

in response to Orange_Nation_23:

Some of you that post cannot be watching the games closely, because it is not the coaching….ITS THE PERSONAL. The defensive backs would not be (and should not be) starting at most programs. Think about it; the players (DB) that have left: Would be seniors – Janzen Jackson, Darren Myles, Mike Edward; Would be juniors – Dave Clark, Eddrick Loften, Pat Martin and ATH Marcques Dixon; Injuries – Brian Randolph.

If it was the coaching, the offense would be horrible too.

And if you haven’t heard as well, the coaches have had to simplify the defense to the barebones. No blitzes, no tight bump and run, etc. because they need the most ppl possible in the backfield to help the DBs.

--- I will continue to post this until ppl realize this ---

IT'S THE PERSONEL! NOT PERSONAL. And you're an idiot. Last year they were ranked 27th or 8th or whatever. This year they change to the toughest to learn defensive scheme of a 3-4. STUPIDEST MOVE EVER!!!! Beside the fact they they have a DC who has only watched a REAL DC work it. He has only watched and tried to learn.

GO BACK TO THE 4-3 BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!!!!!

Go Vols!

BIVOLAR_BEARE writes:

I think the scheme is wrong for the personnel UT has and the coaches have put too much on these athletes at one time. That being said how difficult can it be to grasp a defensive concept with one less down lineman?

RockyMtnVol writes:

ATTENTION: All the posters with the answers to UT's defesive challenges please submit your resumes with the experience and background first. If your going to critcise, some of us would like to know why your not coaching in the Div I.........boy, its sure is easy to see the flaws after the fact and then point them out, and act like you know something about coaching and schemes, players etc...KNS is playing to a crowd of fairweather fans, who don't know jack! about anything, but how to whine.

Go Vols!!

RockyMtnVol writes:

in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE:

I think the scheme is wrong for the personnel UT has and the coaches have put too much on these athletes at one time. That being said how difficult can it be to grasp a defensive concept with one less down lineman?

I am not saying I know anything about the 3-4, but it appears that our backfield is having to think to much about coverage, giving too much space, and I think your point is good, we don't have the "right" athletes for a 3-4.

I do believe these kids are being coached, but CDD says, "coaching is one thing, but you have to get out there and play" and there you go.

Go Vols!!

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