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in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE: Actually, it appears Satan is in the White House and not roaming the sidelines in Bammer..
in response to BIVOLAR_BEARE:
Actually, it appears Satan is in the White House and not roaming the sidelines in Bammer..
Instead roaming the U.S. sidelines using his totally corrupt style of Chicago politics.
What a waste of time in reading this.
This Billy dude and SevenT (or whatever the monikers) are just focused on their hatred of someone they don't know and have very little knowledge of. It is best to just ignore them. They don't understand reasoning.
in response to stevefrommemphis: Meanwhile, Tennessee season ticket holders will be purchasing tickets to the big UT vs Alabama-Birmingham game that day.
in response to stevefrommemphis:
Meanwhile, Tennessee season ticket holders will be purchasing tickets to the big UT vs Alabama-Birmingham game that day.
Rather dumb statement. Why would season ticket holders be purchasing tickets for a home game when they already have tickets?
Ignore the slobs who only post negative comments. They are pitiful.
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Slap hitting has its place as well as a "traditional" swing has its place. Getting a runner on base is basic in the game of softball as well as baseball. If a slap swing gets the batter on base that is GOOD! The Weeklys probably know more about the game than you, Mr.Corrector.
I didn't know they needed seats at Aggieland. Their fans never sit down.
in response to underthehill: Interesting info Walt..but I think this could indeed have an effect on the lawsuit..I think her attorneys will make an issue on the credibility ..or lack thereof ..of Dave Hart..and I think anything pertaining to this issue will be used by them in court and under oath..I think they may be allowed to address the issues he had at Fla State as part of their argument..we'll see..
in response to underthehill:
Interesting info Walt..but I think this could indeed have an effect on the lawsuit..I think her attorneys will make an issue on the credibility ..or lack thereof ..of Dave Hart..and I think anything pertaining to this issue will be used by them in court and under oath..I think they may be allowed to address the issues he had at Fla State as part of their argument..we'll see..
You and Walt are dreaming and way off base. Walt will just keep bashing Hart every chance he gets.
in response to underthehill: just my opinion..How can anyone be this stupid..Mason's attorneys have to love this..do you expect to convince a jury or judge this letter had nothing to do with the lawsuit..the evidence I see in this article indicates to me it does..
just my opinion..How can anyone be this stupid..Mason's attorneys have to love this..do you expect to convince a jury or judge this letter had nothing to do with the lawsuit..the evidence I see in this article indicates to me it does..
In my opinion (as a retired attorney and judge)you are wrong.
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in response to Johnny_Aint_No_Del_Shofner:
Continuing vindictive posting. What a display of stupidity.
The fair way to pick the east champ is to count only the record against other teams in the east and to select the west champ by counting only the record against teams in the west. It isn't fair to count the record against the teams in the other division due to the disparity of some east team not having Alabama or LSU as opponent while others do; likewise for west teams not having Florida, Georgia, etc. The present method depends upon how powerful your non-division teams are in a given year. Totally unfair.
Why don't you grow up and get over your hatred?
Poorly written article.
in response to adimatteo#261830: I have no problem with Holly, think all the coaching staff great for years, I concede I thought Nikki would have been great to have here, and who knows the future.having said that, I meant to make one comment that I found disturbing, and maybe reading too much into it.But the other day in the article about the lastgame Holly made acomment that our team had the jitters...in describing the first half performance. I find it extremely upsetting to think that the Lady Vols, with our program and tradition, playing a fifth seed team in Elite Eight, that we would have the jitters, sad commentary, even if she felt that way, wish she didnt say it.Again, maybe Im just overeacting, (and upset that UCONN most likely will tie our record) but that just didnt sit well.
in response to adimatteo#261830:
I have no problem with Holly, think all the coaching staff great for years, I concede I thought Nikki would have been great to have here, and who knows the future.having said that, I meant to make one comment that I found disturbing, and maybe reading too much into it.But the other day in the article about the lastgame Holly made acomment that our team had the jitters...in describing the first half performance.
I find it extremely upsetting to think that the Lady Vols, with our program and tradition, playing a fifth seed team in Elite Eight, that we would have the jitters, sad commentary, even if she felt that way, wish she didnt say it.Again, maybe Im just overeacting, (and upset that UCONN most likely will tie our record) but that just didnt sit well.
"I" this and "I" that. Gives me the jitters.
in response to John_10065: It was a badly called game. The refs should have gotten it under control early in the contest and put a stop to it. U of L decided their only hope was to turn it into a fight club style of game and the refs let them do it. Their coach even indicated that was what they wanted to do. I've seen pick up games on city park courts that were less physical. I was wondering if they shouldn't have issued MMA grappling gloves for the game.
in response to John_10065:
It was a badly called game. The refs should have gotten it under control early in the contest and put a stop to it. U of L decided their only hope was to turn it into a fight club style of game and the refs let them do it. Their coach even indicated that was what they wanted to do.
I've seen pick up games on city park courts that were less physical. I was wondering if they shouldn't have issued MMA grappling gloves for the game.
I agree. Early on it was apparent that the Louisville three on Griner were slinging arms and hands into Griner's face. The game was never brought into control. Not saying who the physical play favored, but it was out of control. Hope these officials are relieved from working any more in this tournament so the girls can play basketball.
What is this doing under SEC News?
in response to Giverny: I've heard Sabin speak formally and informally and he's not a great orator but lets face it he's much more adept than Jones..... Speakifin just ain't Jones thing....now hyperbolic, gross exaggeration for effect and dangling participle's are.....as well as abusing any and all grammatical elements of the English language.. Seriously in regards to Jones being a representative of our highest academic institution is an embarrassment...
in response to Giverny:
I've heard Sabin speak formally and informally and he's not a great orator but lets face it he's much more adept than Jones.....
Speakifin just ain't Jones thing....now hyperbolic, gross exaggeration for effect and dangling participle's are.....as well as abusing any and all grammatical elements of the English language..
Seriously in regards to Jones being a representative of our highest academic institution is an embarrassment...
While you lecture on grammar tell us what your "dangling participle's" is in possession of. If you meant the plural of participle why the apostrophe? You wouldn't know about "abusing any and all grammatical elements of the English language."
in response to volboy81: Congratulations to the Lady Vols for 2 great wins this weekend to get to the Sweet 16. BEAT OU!!...and was this game on TV in Knoxville? It was listed on E2, but when I got home after the game to watch, it was UConn & Vandy for a while, then OK-UCLA. They showed about 5 min. of the UT game, which is only about 10 minutes less than they showed of our game on Sat. vs ORU...ESPN has done a horrible job of showing the womens tourney this year. 4-5 channels and they flit back and forth between games on ONE channel.PITIFUL!
in response to volboy81:
Congratulations to the Lady Vols for 2 great wins this weekend to get to the Sweet 16. BEAT OU!!...and was this game on TV in Knoxville? It was listed on E2, but when I got home after the game to watch, it was UConn & Vandy for a while, then OK-UCLA. They showed about 5 min. of the UT game, which is only about 10 minutes less than they showed of our game on Sat. vs ORU...ESPN has done a horrible job of showing the womens tourney this year. 4-5 channels and they flit back and forth between games on ONE channel.PITIFUL!
ESPN was showcasing its team (Uconn) by televising the UConn-Vandy game on both ESPN2 and ESPNU. What a waste of one channel which could have broadcast another game. At least CBS teams up and broadcasts four different men's games simultaneously. ESPN is a lover of UConn and shows it.
A previous article stated the game will be televised on ESPN, this one states ESPN2, and in programing my DVR to record it I find it is listed on ESPNU at 1:30 p.m.
in response to ReeseHallRelic: A doctor or medical trainer says "no contact" for any player, and you want to override that order? What, for them to prove to you that they're a "man"? Toughness is one thing; stupidity is another.
in response to ReeseHallRelic:
A doctor or medical trainer says "no contact" for any player, and you want to override that order? What, for them to prove to you that they're a "man"?
Toughness is one thing; stupidity is another.
Name this doctor or medical trainer who made this "order" and state which he or she is, doctor or medical trainer.Are you inferring Butch Jones is stupid? Who says you aren't?
in response to movol53: Ok please explain how I can go vote. Thanks.
in response to movol53:
Ok please explain how I can go vote.
Thanks.
ESPN poll link: http://espn.go.com/womens-basketball/
in response to Giverny: Pats salary of $354,375, 1 million dollar bonus, and a substantial benefit package isn't sufficient for her to host a viewing party?
Pats salary of $354,375, 1 million dollar bonus, and a substantial benefit package isn't sufficient for her to host a viewing party?
It's not up to Pat, stupid. In case you haven't heard, Holly Warlick is now head coach.
in response to kazoo: Great to win the SEC title--Warlick has done a nice job--but I can't remember when UT and its fans got SO excited about winning the SEC. That's almost been automatic for 20+ years--the least of our ambitions. But as the program's fortunes have slipped, suddenly it's a bigger deal; ok, maybe it's a step back to the top. As for being picked 4th in the conference, did anybody actually believe that? Are there three teams in the conference that have more talent than UT, which has a bench full of AAs? Is there one? Nobody takes projections seriously. I want to see this team get to the Final Four--THAT is the UT standard.
in response to kazoo:
Great to win the SEC title--Warlick has done a nice job--but I can't remember when UT and its fans got SO excited about winning the SEC. That's almost been automatic for 20+ years--the least of our ambitions. But as the program's fortunes have slipped, suddenly it's a bigger deal; ok, maybe it's a step back to the top. As for being picked 4th in the conference, did anybody actually believe that? Are there three teams in the conference that have more talent than UT, which has a bench full of AAs? Is there one? Nobody takes projections seriously. I want to see this team get to the Final Four--THAT is the UT standard.
Part of the reason for joy is that the team lost 5 starters from last year's tournament team, lost Pat Summitt as head coach, had significant injuries and strong competition from Kentucky and A&M. This team achieved!
Great to see Izzy Harrison get a few minutes of playing time. Hope she gets ready to spend more game time. She is needed.Holly should be selected SEC Coach of the Year hands down.
Well, all you pessimists get to spew your hatred filled comments again. Hope you all feel better now. The rest of us just brush off glennfordsfoible,so-called volzfan, andforhislasttune, etc. What a miserable life each must lead.
Doesn't say much for the other sports writers and newspapers, does it? I pity their readers.
"In baseball, a strength conducted a workout within a week of the final exam period. Reported Jan. 14, 2013."Fire this "strength" because it had no business conducting anything!
in response to emailnodata: Not seeing it. Hornbuckle was close, but wild. Bjorklund? No. Massengale??? Maybe, if she's the off guard. Alicia Manning?? Yes, when she saw the floor. I don't see a Kelly Farris at UT. Or a Jordan Madden. That's my point: with up to 15 scholarships, I'd love to see UT with more the Madden, Farris, or Manning type players. Girls who play super D, make all the little plays, never get lost on defense.
in response to emailnodata:
Not seeing it.
Hornbuckle was close, but wild. Bjorklund? No. Massengale??? Maybe, if she's the off guard. Alicia Manning?? Yes, when she saw the floor.
I don't see a Kelly Farris at UT. Or a Jordan Madden.
That's my point: with up to 15 scholarships, I'd love to see UT with more the Madden, Farris, or Manning type players. Girls who play super D, make all the little plays, never get lost on defense.
Being that you know so much about grit, intelligence and toughness (in your own mind) maybe you should see if Holly will give you a job scouting potential recruits. Seems to me she is doing okay.
They may not have had a great game but they certainly were not "liabilities."
in response to volthrunthru#658770: Apparently others have had doubts about Jones. For instance, this USA Today story: http://www.floridatoday.com/usatoday/... UT folks had to have known about this story. He, of course, led Cincinnati fans to believe he was going to stay in Cincinnati, because it was "all about the kids," says the article. He did not tell them, apparently, that he was praying everyday that he would stay there. Good thing he didn't. Hope Notre Dame or USC or Michigan, all of which he would be inclined to look at seriously, were to call him up.
in response to volthrunthru#658770:
Apparently others have had doubts about Jones. For instance, this USA Today story:
http://www.floridatoday.com/usatoday/...
UT folks had to have known about this story. He, of course, led Cincinnati fans to believe he was going to stay in Cincinnati, because it was "all about the kids," says the article.
He did not tell them, apparently, that he was praying everyday that he would stay there.
Good thing he didn't. Hope Notre Dame or USC or Michigan, all of which he would be inclined to look at seriously, were to call him up.
Who is talking about doubts about Jones besides you? All your negative comments mean nothing. So you don't like Jones. Then leave.As for 5 star running backs, how did Bryce Brown do? And how about David Oku, No.1 all-purpose back? They don't all work out.
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in response to MOD_4_MY_DAY_JOB:
You are the "joke" and the "fool."
in response to Rumblefish: Let me get this straight....the University of Tennessee needed to conduct a "study" to see that winning football games leads to getting good recruits???? Oh my...... Tell me Mr. Hart....how many man hours were spent on this in depth discovery????
in response to Rumblefish:
Let me get this straight....the University of Tennessee needed to conduct a "study" to see that winning football games leads to getting good recruits???? Oh my......
Tell me Mr. Hart....how many man hours were spent on this in depth discovery????
Apparently you missed the conclusion, which was that (1) coaching stability and (2) building relationships are what is needed to recruit successfully.
in response to rtrchatt: Difference makers lol... UT does not have ONE RB or WR that would see the field if in an Alabama uni. Best returning skill position depth and talent in the country. Parade Player of the Year RB Derrick Henry already in school and ready for spring ball.
in response to rtrchatt:
Difference makers lol... UT does not have ONE RB or WR that would see the field if in an Alabama uni. Best returning skill position depth and talent in the country. Parade Player of the Year RB Derrick Henry already in school and ready for spring ball.
You must have a problem to get on here and continuously brag on bama. Do you think we care what you think or post?
in response to volthrunthru#658770: For Adams this is heavy hitting intellectual endeavor. His best, in my opinion, misuse of space was being the fulcrum on which Mike Hamilton fired Phillip Fulmer. Insiders believe Hamilton used to leak to Adams, early, the police blotters when any footballer got into trouble, so Adams could gun Fulmer for Hamilton, Cheek and others who were unable to go head-to-head with Fulmer and win on merit. Here, Adams clearly screwed up the column. He meant to suggest a means by which recruits could use simplicity to show their school choice; but Adams, as he is apt to do, blew it. He managed to write "minimum" where he needed to type "maximum." At UT, recruiting got a boost Wednesday, when national recruit Marquez North decided to commit to Coach Jay Graham. Notice that so far none of this new group of coaches has signed anything but mid-major level players; but the Tennessee alum hauled in a big fish. Rather than set up a scenario in which UT people could coach football, which would let UT's family tell recruits about the homestead, Hamilton's non-UT successor Doofus Hart brought in people not yet familiar enough with Knoxville to do much more than be learning to spell "U.T." Predictably they flit about the country, visiting. Smart recruits seeing a Cincinnati-level coach in the living room will take a wait-and-see attitude. There's a lot of difference between advertising and selling. Show and tell is not the same as stop and sell. 2-star coaches sell 2-star players. Big time winners command respect from big time recruits and high school coaches. Graham---and dozens of UT alumni---are big time winners. But of course that would be too simple for Hart, Cheek and the rest of the kingdom of doofus. Other SEC teams have recruiting commitment rosters that this group of outsiders would kill to get, at this point in recruiting. Jones called them his 2-star-school coaching staff the "best in the USA." They need to be, since they will be coaching a bush league recruiting initiative, unless Jay Graham and the behind-the-scenes UT alumni network can put together several more deals for which Butch & the Bush-Leaguers can take credit. Phillip Fulmer has been kind in his low profile during the mess that followed his firing. But he made a point of saying publicly, after Jones said his Universsity-of-Cincinnati-level coaches could win the SEC with recruits from the State of Tennessee, that UT must recruit nationally---and that Jones had never done that before. Obviously Jay Graham has. And Graham has won in the SEC before, too. Thanks, Jay. Hope you can survive working with bush league associates---under Doofus Hart and Clueless Cheek. GO VOLS!
For Adams this is heavy hitting intellectual endeavor. His best, in my opinion, misuse of space was being the fulcrum on which Mike Hamilton fired Phillip Fulmer.
Insiders believe Hamilton used to leak to Adams, early, the police blotters when any footballer got into trouble, so Adams could gun Fulmer for Hamilton, Cheek and others who were unable to go head-to-head with Fulmer and win on merit.
Here, Adams clearly screwed up the column. He meant to suggest a means by which recruits could use simplicity to show their school choice; but Adams, as he is apt to do, blew it. He managed to write "minimum" where he needed to type "maximum."
At UT, recruiting got a boost Wednesday, when national recruit Marquez North decided to commit to Coach Jay Graham.
Notice that so far none of this new group of coaches has signed anything but mid-major level players; but the Tennessee alum hauled in a big fish.
Rather than set up a scenario in which UT people could coach football, which would let UT's family tell recruits about the homestead, Hamilton's non-UT successor Doofus Hart brought in people not yet familiar enough with Knoxville to do much more than be learning to spell "U.T."
Predictably they flit about the country, visiting. Smart recruits seeing a Cincinnati-level coach in the living room will take a wait-and-see attitude. There's a lot of difference between advertising and selling. Show and tell is not the same as stop and sell. 2-star coaches sell 2-star players. Big time winners command respect from big time recruits and high school coaches. Graham---and dozens of UT alumni---are big time winners. But of course that would be too simple for Hart, Cheek and the rest of the kingdom of doofus.
Other SEC teams have recruiting commitment rosters that this group of outsiders would kill to get, at this point in recruiting. Jones called them his 2-star-school coaching staff the "best in the USA."
They need to be, since they will be coaching a bush league recruiting initiative, unless Jay Graham and the behind-the-scenes UT alumni network can put together several more deals for which Butch & the Bush-Leaguers can take credit.
Phillip Fulmer has been kind in his low profile during the mess that followed his firing. But he made a point of saying publicly, after Jones said his Universsity-of-Cincinnati-level coaches could win the SEC with recruits from the State of Tennessee,
that UT must recruit nationally---and that Jones had never done that before.
Obviously Jay Graham has. And Graham has won in the SEC before, too.
Thanks, Jay. Hope you can survive working with bush league associates---under Doofus Hart and Clueless Cheek.
GO VOLS!
What a mistaken conception of reality. When did Jones say that he could win with only Tennessee kids? Never. Your entire babbling is ridiculous.
in response to rtrchatt: Ignorance is bliss and you are the King of the land.... 4 star DB Eddie Jackson from Fla has committed to the national champions. A true shutdown corner and VB the ship has sailed. Good luck chasing Amari Cooper and Robert Foster the next 3 yrs, you will need it. Hope you at least get to abowl game or two wearing the puke orange. Roll Tide, got 23 UT???? 13 is sooooooooooooo second place.
Ignorance is bliss and you are the King of the land.... 4 star DB Eddie Jackson from Fla has committed to the national champions. A true shutdown corner and VB the ship has sailed. Good luck chasing Amari Cooper and Robert Foster the next 3 yrs, you will need it. Hope you at least get to abowl game or two wearing the puke orange. Roll Tide, got 23 UT???? 13 is sooooooooooooo second place.
You have a real problem. What an a..hole!
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in response to andforhisnexttune:
Get over Fulmer! What was our record his last year?
So? The Lady Vols have lost all 5 starters from an elite eight NCAA team (all 5 seniors started in the tournament), along with the head coach. Go Lady Vols!
in response to emailnodata: I truly expect and am seeing Holly put her on stamp on things. Summitt was a great coach, but her last go-round was really the coup that brought in Candace Parker and Nicki Anosike. The classes after that snuggled, and mostly to me it was because of "too much of the same". With Holly, I don't know that she will bring int eh Top Player of the Year every year, but she'll put together a good team. I figure Holly to coach about 5-6 years max.
I truly expect and am seeing Holly put her on stamp on things.
Summitt was a great coach, but her last go-round was really the coup that brought in Candace Parker and Nicki Anosike. The classes after that snuggled, and mostly to me it was because of "too much of the same".
With Holly, I don't know that she will bring int eh Top Player of the Year every year, but she'll put together a good team.
I figure Holly to coach about 5-6 years max.
Well we know what you "fully expect", "am seeing","don't know", "figure" and what was "mostly to" you. What a relief to be apprized of the state of the Lady Vols basketball program.
in response to VolzsFan: So a UT commission with Lady Vol fans on this committee determines that a sport that losses money actually makes money for the community or state. Have they been on TV in the last month? Do they fill even 50% of the arena? Is anyone traveling to stay in hotels? Remember, the BCS TV deal for all BCS games and the championship game, is $125 million per year. That is given to the conferences of participants. They estimate the new playoff format will be $250-$300 million. That is per year. The MEN'S NCAA tournament annual TV rights are $779 million. Again, $779 million. The TV ratings for the Final Four are double that of the BCS Championship game. The attendance and ticket prices are virtually the same for the Final Four Championship game and the BCS game. But hey, them there Lady Vols generate $151 million for the state. Sorry, the numbers do not add up.
in response to VolzsFan:
So a UT commission with Lady Vol fans on this committee determines that a sport that losses money actually makes money for the community or state. Have they been on TV in the last month? Do they fill even 50% of the arena? Is anyone traveling to stay in hotels?
Remember, the BCS TV deal for all BCS games and the championship game, is $125 million per year. That is given to the conferences of participants. They estimate the new playoff format will be $250-$300 million. That is per year. The MEN'S NCAA tournament annual TV rights are $779 million. Again, $779 million. The TV ratings for the Final Four are double that of the BCS Championship game. The attendance and ticket prices are virtually the same for the Final Four Championship game and the BCS game.
But hey, them there Lady Vols generate $151 million for the state. Sorry, the numbers do not add up.
Obviously you have something against the Lady Vols. Well, I have watched 5 of their games on TV this month (January, 2013) already and will watch them on ESPN2 nest Monday. The way I count that will make 6 televised games this month. And they have an many or more fans in the stands than the men do.
in response to keepitreal4vols: Me and Te'o girlfriend will be there. I will be sitting in that 1 single chair in Sec 102. Te'o g/f will be sitting across the arena in that other sigle chair. Don't worry if they are empty, that's us. Come by and say hello.
in response to keepitreal4vols:
Me and Te'o girlfriend will be there. I will be sitting in that 1 single chair in Sec 102. Te'o g/f will be sitting across the arena in that other sigle chair. Don't worry if they are empty, that's us. Come by and say hello.
Funny, funny!
Cattleman has spent too much time shoveling manure. Now he resorts to calling Lady Vol fans sheep, as if sheep are inferior to his methane producing bovines. Unless in transition these girls work for higher percentage shots then score, while the men might make a pass or two then shoot and watch the opponent rebound.
in response to feathersax: I was in 'memorial aging garage' (lousy gym) & saw taller, more talented LV team out-hustled, out-rebounded & out-coached. Vandy's not that good, so unless HW gets 'em on track, gonna be a short post-season. Taber Spani had a terrific game; even vandie fans were impressed.
in response to feathersax:
I was in 'memorial aging garage' (lousy gym) & saw taller, more talented LV team out-hustled, out-rebounded & out-coached. Vandy's not that good, so unless HW gets 'em on track, gonna be a short post-season. Taber Spani had a terrific game; even vandie fans were impressed.
Out-rebounded? Tenn. 43, Vandy 40. Out coached? No. Out-hustled at times, but Vandy is no pushover at home.
in response to DwayneElizondoMountainDewHerbertCamacho: "Recruiting in many ways is like politics. It is local." Maybe if you're Florida or Texas, but not UT. Tennessee's talent base is sparse. What you're doing is you are "rationalizing." Jones isn't successful at recruiting good players nationally so you're rationalizing his lack of success by advocating that his local recruiting is more important. It isn't. Jones has resuscitated in-state recruiting, but hasn't landed players like Von Bell, so except for one four star kid, he hasn't done much to make us competitive in the SEC (and isn't that what he's supposed to do rather than make UT fans feel good about their state?). Don't think stars matter? Fine. Not one commitment to UT has an offer from Bama. That's extremely telling. We aren't winning the battles for the players we will need to hang with the top of the SEC. But that's fine because your best blue collar buddy Butch Jones worked his way up to coaching Cincinnati. I'm sure that in the end that will work out...because the SEC is a Disney movie. We're one Butch Jones montage away from making it to the SEC championship. I don't care how hard he's working. He's recruiting marginal players who other (real) SEC programs aren't looking at. Sorry, that's the truth. In three years, this group won't be the top of the SEC and Jones will be slogging through his third season of mediocrity with guys like you rehashing old Dooley arguments like "he needs four years" or "he needs to get the staff he wants," etc. etc. Jones is an upgrade over Dooley, but then again I have a friend coaching his son's pee wee football league and he would have been an upgrade over Dooley. Jones will get us to 8 wins in a season and that's where we will remain for YEARS. At least Dooley had the decency to expose himself in his third season. Jones will keep fans hanging on to the ever present, ever unattainable "next season." Of course, I'm only saying this because I'm a troll. There's absolutely no way that you could predict all of that from looking at Jones coaching history, his choice in assistant coaches, his current recruiting capabilities, etc. Just like there was no way to look at Dooley's overall losing record and predict that he would lose. Anyway...I'll be right about this coach just like I was right about Fulmer and Dooley. Admittedly, I supported Kiffin and overlooked his screw ups, but that won't happen again. Jones will be a mediocre SEC coach unless he starts recruiting the talent he needs to win and hires actual SEC coordinators and coaches rather than Auburn and Georgia's cast-offs and his current Big East crew (who will be exposed in the next two seasons). Think I'm a troll? Please copy this message and throw it in my face in three years.
in response to DwayneElizondoMountainDewHerbertCamacho:
"Recruiting in many ways is like politics. It is local."
Maybe if you're Florida or Texas, but not UT. Tennessee's talent base is sparse. What you're doing is you are "rationalizing." Jones isn't successful at recruiting good players nationally so you're rationalizing his lack of success by advocating that his local recruiting is more important. It isn't.
Jones has resuscitated in-state recruiting, but hasn't landed players like Von Bell, so except for one four star kid, he hasn't done much to make us competitive in the SEC (and isn't that what he's supposed to do rather than make UT fans feel good about their state?). Don't think stars matter? Fine. Not one commitment to UT has an offer from Bama. That's extremely telling. We aren't winning the battles for the players we will need to hang with the top of the SEC.
But that's fine because your best blue collar buddy Butch Jones worked his way up to coaching Cincinnati. I'm sure that in the end that will work out...because the SEC is a Disney movie. We're one Butch Jones montage away from making it to the SEC championship.
I don't care how hard he's working. He's recruiting marginal players who other (real) SEC programs aren't looking at. Sorry, that's the truth. In three years, this group won't be the top of the SEC and Jones will be slogging through his third season of mediocrity with guys like you rehashing old Dooley arguments like "he needs four years" or "he needs to get the staff he wants," etc. etc.
Jones is an upgrade over Dooley, but then again I have a friend coaching his son's pee wee football league and he would have been an upgrade over Dooley. Jones will get us to 8 wins in a season and that's where we will remain for YEARS. At least Dooley had the decency to expose himself in his third season. Jones will keep fans hanging on to the ever present, ever unattainable "next season."
Of course, I'm only saying this because I'm a troll. There's absolutely no way that you could predict all of that from looking at Jones coaching history, his choice in assistant coaches, his current recruiting capabilities, etc. Just like there was no way to look at Dooley's overall losing record and predict that he would lose.
Anyway...I'll be right about this coach just like I was right about Fulmer and Dooley. Admittedly, I supported Kiffin and overlooked his screw ups, but that won't happen again. Jones will be a mediocre SEC coach unless he starts recruiting the talent he needs to win and hires actual SEC coordinators and coaches rather than Auburn and Georgia's cast-offs and his current Big East crew (who will be exposed in the next two seasons).
Think I'm a troll? Please copy this message and throw it in my face in three years.
Not worth copying!
in response to volfan1202: Rivals.com Recruiting Rankings Team Rankings: Tennessee #31SEC: #11 Sad and Pathetic. Unimpressive recruiting results from the "Best coaching staff in the country".
in response to volfan1202:
Rivals.com Recruiting Rankings
Team Rankings: Tennessee #31SEC: #11
Sad and Pathetic. Unimpressive recruiting results from the "Best coaching staff in the country".
Ignorant post. What do you expect from a staff with such a short tenure?
in response to RollTideJoe: Vonn Bell will commit to Alabama. You can count on it. It's between Georgia and Alabama and he will go to Alabama.
in response to RollTideJoe:
Vonn Bell will commit to Alabama. You can count on it. It's between Georgia and Alabama and he will go to Alabama.
Since you are a psychic go buy a lottery ticket. Only one should do you.
in response to GlennFordsFoible: (This comment was removed by the site staff.)
in response to GlennFordsFoible:
Feel better after that diatribe?
in response to jbocap: Is this BBQ allowed by the NCAA?
in response to jbocap:
Is this BBQ allowed by the NCAA?
He was talking about UT players and parents; not unsigned, prospective players.
in response to CoverOrange: I disrespectfully disagree. What laws were broken, what laws will be made because of Te'o's actions? What laws are being considered now because of a mental ill nutcase? We will all remember forever the Iraq war, but do we understand all the real reasons it happened? The Te'o story is a grocery-store-checkout-line level of interest, of little consequence. I advise you sir not to step in a puddle because you will be in over your head.
in response to CoverOrange:
I disrespectfully disagree.
What laws were broken, what laws will be made because of Te'o's actions?
What laws are being considered now because of a mental ill nutcase?
We will all remember forever the Iraq war, but do we understand all the real reasons it happened?
The Te'o story is a grocery-store-checkout-line level of interest, of little consequence.
I advise you sir not to step in a puddle because you will be in over your head.
It's a valid news story in sports, just like the super bowl is. That's what Adams' column is about. It is not a front page story like the Newtown tragedy. Get over yourself and out of your own puddle
in response to voloffaith: Yes that Kelsey Bone is the one and the same who left Dawn Staley's ladyettes after one year. Sure am glad she isn't there now.
in response to voloffaith:
Yes that Kelsey Bone is the one and the same who left Dawn Staley's ladyettes after one year. Sure am glad she isn't there now.
Bone wasn't near as effective while she was a game hen. She is much improved.
in response to volthrunthru#658770: Good question. My source is a friend, whom I have known for decades. He has no dog in the hunt---and is not connected to the University of Cincinnati. He is a powerful guy in that town, though, and really wired in. He does not care what UC does or does not do, from a fan's standpoint, although I suspect he wishes them well. He is a good guy; and he was merely surprised that somebody would bail after what he thought was a short time, especially after making those comments.
Good question.
My source is a friend, whom I have known for decades. He has no dog in the hunt---and is not connected to the University of Cincinnati. He is a powerful guy in that town, though, and really wired in.
He does not care what UC does or does not do, from a fan's standpoint, although I suspect he wishes them well. He is a good guy; and he was merely surprised that somebody would bail after what he thought was a short time, especially after making those comments.
All those ramifications based on what a "powerful guy in town" thinks. I have a friend in Cincinnati also, but he seems to face reality more than yours. Coaches usually leave one job for a better one. Your powerful guy needs to get over it.
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