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“NFL Draft 2016, here I come.”
Yeah right.
Good luck in Canada, JC! Hope the Eskimos don't run the Clawfense.
What's CJ Leak up to these days?
in response to DeltaCharlie3: Should Butch Jones be brought back for a second year if he goes 3-9?
in response to DeltaCharlie3:
Should Butch Jones be brought back for a second year if he goes 3-9?
^^^virgin^^^
in response to Shake_Bake: You are absolutely right! This will be a tough year, especially with the schedule we have. People really need to adjust their expectations, and be realistic. If we can win six...I would be content! It is going to take time, I just hope the fans are patient.
in response to Shake_Bake:
You are absolutely right! This will be a tough year, especially with the schedule we have. People really need to adjust their expectations, and be realistic. If we can win six...I would be content! It is going to take time, I just hope the fans are patient.
Yep, no doubt about it. We are in for a rough ride this fall. Hopefully Butch can do something that Dooley or Kiffin couldn't and that's win a game (or two) that we shouldn't.
Awesome. He won't be able to hide behind his mammoth offensive line, 5 star WRs and NFL RBs on the track. I bet he crashes into a wall at the first turn.
Hope he pans out as a WR, but he'll probably do the most damage as a returner. Reminds me of Devin Hester.
in response to 8inarow: In more positive news, TitleTown put another trophy in its overloaded National Championship Case when the Gators Gymnastics Team won on Saturday in LA. There are only 5 schools in the country who have won this title, 3-from the SEC. UF, bammer and ga. The others are Utah and ucla. I know you all will send your congratulations to UF for another fine accomplishment.
in response to 8inarow:
In more positive news, TitleTown put another trophy in its overloaded National Championship Case when the Gators Gymnastics Team won on Saturday in LA.
There are only 5 schools in the country who have won this title, 3-from the SEC. UF, bammer and ga. The others are Utah and ucla.
I know you all will send your congratulations to UF for another fine accomplishment.
^^^^Inflatable girlfriend alert^^^^
First round talent, free agent smarts. Wish him luck, but he got should have stayed in school.
I'd be there if there wasn't three hours worth of asphalt between me and the stadium.
I think the 1986 record is safe, though. 70K + is muy ambitious.
in response to SevenT: Heath Shuler Part II
in response to SevenT:
Heath Shuler Part II
Not sure that Bray has a future in real estate or politics. You might be right about his future in the NFL, but his game is nothing like Heath Shuler's.
There's gotta be some other self righteous boob in the state of Tennessee that's just as deserving.
in response to CommodoreCapital: Franklin is a professional in PR and in coaching. He handled that very well. Anchor Down...
in response to CommodoreCapital:
Franklin is a professional in PR and in coaching. He handled that very well.
Anchor Down...
So I guess it does take a Professional Handicapper to recognize a Professional in PR after all.
Just when I think that CJF can't get any more unlikeable, he proves me wrong. What an absolute w@nker.
Good for Phil! Does this mean we get any of our buyout money back?
Couldn't they have used a less creepy photo?
No matter who is named the starter, I won't be surprised to see more than one QB play significant snaps in 2013.
Really hate it for players like Dallas Thomas who gave their all but never got to play for a winning team. Hope he has success on the next level.
James Franklin is such a hopeless boob.
You tell 'em coach...the SEC won't have Tennessee to kick around anymore, right? right?
...crickets.
Wow. Didn't see that coming. I guess it's just the way things go. Assistants jump ship all the time, just had hoped he's stick around for while since he's an alum. At least he waited until after NSD.
in response to ElizabethtonvolnNC: Given all of the circumstances surrounding this program and it's current state, the fanbase included I would rate it an A. Why? Averaging the three most "trusted" recruiting services would amount to 26th in the nation. As CBJ stated many times in the presser, this staff had 31 days and limited contact to make an impact. I don't want to hear about Auburn OR Ole Miss. How did Arkansas do? 2 years ago Auburn won a national champiionship, and the coaches they hired, all came from the SE. Our former Head Coach as constantly lamented by the legions, allowed for the deterioration of relationships in the high schools and the prospects they should have been recruiting. CBJ, at the eleven and half hour, at least was able to attract the interest of some 5* rated talent and kept some guessing until national signing day. This on top of coming into new territory, with a broken program, 4 coaching changes since 2008, no bowls in the last two years and consecutive losing seasons to go with it made the task that much more difficult. If half the the legions would realize that we are never going to get back to where we want to be unless we are all in, all the time and that others feel the excitement or negativity within a fanbase, and it's program. Otherwise you might as well go root for Bama or Vandy. Go VOLS and GO CBJ.
in response to ElizabethtonvolnNC:
Given all of the circumstances surrounding this program and it's current state, the fanbase included I would rate it an A. Why? Averaging the three most "trusted" recruiting services would amount to 26th in the nation. As CBJ stated many times in the presser, this staff had 31 days and limited contact to make an impact. I don't want to hear about Auburn OR Ole Miss. How did Arkansas do? 2 years ago Auburn won a national champiionship, and the coaches they hired, all came from the SE. Our former Head Coach as constantly lamented by the legions, allowed for the deterioration of relationships in the high schools and the prospects they should have been recruiting. CBJ, at the eleven and half hour, at least was able to attract the interest of some 5* rated talent and kept some guessing until national signing day. This on top of coming into new territory, with a broken program, 4 coaching changes since 2008, no bowls in the last two years and consecutive losing seasons to go with it made the task that much more difficult. If half the the legions would realize that we are never going to get back to where we want to be unless we are all in, all the time and that others feel the excitement or negativity within a fanbase, and it's program. Otherwise you might as well go root for Bama or Vandy. Go VOLS and GO CBJ.
I agree. Not a bad job at all considering the circumstances and the decaying relationships that we're hearing that Dooley left in his wake. HOWEVER, I can help but recall how impressed I was when Dooley "came to the rescue" and salvaged a respectable class when Kiffin bolted. No, it wasn't a top ten class, but there were some solid recruits there...a couple of those guys will be playing on Sundays next year. Since my blood runs orange (perhaps a little darker than normal due my affinity for brown liquor), I have no choice but to hope that CBJ can get more out of this decent class than Dooley got out of his guys and Kiffin/Fulmer's leftovers. CBJ seems sincere. So did Dooley. CBJ is recruiting character players that want to play for UT. So did Dooley. Can he develop his players and continue to improve in the recruiting department every year? I hope so, 'cause that's what it's going to take get back in the Top 25 and still playing ball on NYD every year. Bama, just pulled in another #1 class. FL isn't far behind. And even Ole Miss is pulling in serious talent now. Ole friggin Miss, people (or, as Robert Nkemdiche would call them, "The University of Ole Miss"). It's not going to get any easier. Managing a football team in the SEC is a 12 month long grind. CBJ seems up to the task. Hope I'm saying the same thing next February.
I think it's safe to say that he will be in the highest tax bracket of every other position coach in the NFL.
I'm sure he'll be able to find a job working as Larry David's stand in.
Good luck to you, Tyler. I wish you would have played during a more productive era of Tennessee football and I sincerely hope your NFL career doesn't turn into a cautionary tale.
Our new OC looks like he's related to Michael Stipe.
I thought Hinshaw took a job with Kentucky? Whatever...good luck to him. I'd probably rather coach at Cincinnati if I were in his shoes, too.
in response to Bark_at_the_Moon: My Georgia friend says this is the most laughable hire of all: Willie Martinez, Safeties. Says there were planes that flew over their stadium that said FREE WILLIE!
in response to Bark_at_the_Moon:
My Georgia friend says this is the most laughable hire of all: Willie Martinez, Safeties. Says there were planes that flew over their stadium that said FREE WILLIE!
As a transplanted ATLien, I know a bunch of Georgia fans. The consensus there is that Willie bit off a little more than he could chew with that position. Remind you of Kevin Ramsey at all? He was a great position coach at TN years ago, got hired away to be the DC at UGA and was a complete disaster. Martinez will be fine...as long as he's not in charge or anything other than recruiting players and coaching DBs.
Didn't realize this was in doubt. He has great numbers, but when you have dominant running game, unstoppable play-action attack, a stellar O Line and solid receivers, it makes things a lot easier on the QB (I know, an obvious observation). Even after another year in college, I don't really see him ever contributing to an NFL team beyond holding a clipboard.
in response to Geofffourmyle: AK is the two letter abbreviation for Alaska. AR is the two letter abbreviation for Arkansas. Walt UT '81
in response to Geofffourmyle:
AK is the two letter abbreviation for Alaska.
AR is the two letter abbreviation for Arkansas.
Walt
UT '81
High horseman,
Two letter abbreviation = USPS postal abbreviation
JC
UT '99
in response to sstarnes#216340: Now let's approach Al Wilson-----i bet he could recruit Tee Martin under the table and be the best motivator money could buy.
in response to sstarnes#216340:
Now let's approach Al Wilson-----i bet he could recruit Tee Martin under the table and be the best motivator money could buy.
To coach WRs?
in response to TheStupidPolice: I understand Tee Martin is a former Vol and probably feels a lot of loyalty toward the program, but I don't see why he'd leave LA coaching Marquis Lee to come to a staff he has no familiarity with to coach Pig Howard. If Jones can make that sale, I'll be extremely impressed and optimistic.
in response to TheStupidPolice:
I understand Tee Martin is a former Vol and probably feels a lot of loyalty toward the program, but I don't see why he'd leave LA coaching Marquis Lee to come to a staff he has no familiarity with to coach Pig Howard. If Jones can make that sale, I'll be extremely impressed and optimistic.
The only reason I can think of would be the tenuous status of Kiffin's tenure at USC. If they have another year like this year, he'll be gone. His dad fell on the sword for him this year. It's even possible that he would be gone this year if they lose their bowl game. Probably not going to happen, but I get the feeling USC's AD isn't a huge fan of Kiffin.
in response to D60: Why? Cheek and Hart should be burned at the stake. I thought 4 yrs of loosing football now it's 6. This bunch is beyond ignorant
in response to D60:
Why? Cheek and Hart should be burned at the stake. I thought 4 yrs of loosing football now it's 6. This bunch is beyond ignorant
Using an expression like "loosing football" is beyond ignorant. Cheek and Hart hired the best candidate that was willing to come to Knoxville. You can't hire someone that isn't willing to accept the position. Yes, the search was agonizingly long and had plenty of bumps in the road along the way, but in the end, we ended up with a solid football coach. Butch Jones' name was listed as a possible candidate from the very beginning. Nobody paid attention because of the Jon Gruden craze, but he was there and justifiably so.
Can we at least wait until the Orange and White game before we start writing next season's obituary, people?
Welcome CBJ. Now hit the road and start recruiting! Oh yes, and hire a staff...a great staff would help, as well.
in response to born2ride: Dave Hart dropped the ball with the Gruden hire.
in response to born2ride:
Dave Hart dropped the ball with the Gruden hire.
Gruden was never going to come to UT. He just likes reading his name in the paper.
James Franklin is such a tool.
Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall for that conversation.
"Uh dad, yeah...I'm thinking you're fired. Still planning on coming over to the house for Christmas though, right?"
No mention of Jon Gruden?
Am I on the wrong site?
I think my head is going to explode the next time I hear Gruden's name. I like him as a broadcaster, but I'm so friggin tired of all of the speculation, rumors, unnamed sources, etc. Suppose it's my own fault for wasting so much time reading message boards.
in response to boxofsouls: I vote Terry Bowden.. always was a great coach and is doing pretty good now as well...
in response to boxofsouls:
I vote Terry Bowden.. always was a great coach and is doing pretty good now as well...
1-11 is pretty good?
Or were you being sarcastic?
in response to OTPVol: I worry about Mora. After seeing his antics when he coached the Falcons, he reminded me an awful lot of Kiffin..
in response to OTPVol:
I worry about Mora. After seeing his antics when he coached the Falcons, he reminded me an awful lot of Kiffin..
Agree 110%. I live in Atlanta and remember his tenure with the Falcons all too well. True, he has a lot of fire in his personality that would appeal to your average 18-21 year old player, but he is also a caustic pain-in-the-rear. He openly campaigned (on a radio show in Seattle) for another job while coaching the Falcons! He probably would have been allowed to return for what turned into the the disastrous Petrino (incomplete) season, but his big mouth and lack of respect for one of the most respected NFL owners got him fired.
Culturally, I don't think he would be a good fit. And I think there's a good chance that he'd bolt for the first NFL HC opportunity. Another thing to consider, if he bails on UCLA after one season, how is that any different than what Kiffin did to TN a few years ago?
I will give him this, I thought it was absolutely hilarious the way he went off on Doug Gottlieb (cause Gottlieb is an absolute knob) in an interview a few years ago, but I wouldn't want his volatile personality associated with UT. That said, check it out. Pretty funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6Pf24...
Ah Philly, "The City of Brotherly Go #%*! Yourself". What a pit of apathy and despair.
No matter what happens with Gruden, I know one thing is certain. He's going to make more money next year than he's making this year. His agent is the luckiest guy in the world.
As a former occupant of the 201 Poplar drunk tank in Memphis, I think I speak for a lot of people when I say, "REALLY?"
in response to standfast#211788: This is what we're dealing with folks: Cordarelle Patterson said: "It was an awesome year. Things came up big for me. I didn't expect any of this coming from junior college. I didn't even think I was going to play that much. I just came here and worked hard every day, and good things happened." My question is, what good things happened? We had one of the worst teams in memory. We lost a coach. Our probation got extended. Attendance was down -- way down. We got whipped by Vanderbilt. The season is over and you still can't get open half the time. Tell me Mr. Patterson, what good things happened?
in response to standfast#211788:
This is what we're dealing with folks: Cordarelle Patterson said: "It was an awesome year. Things came up big for me. I didn't expect any of this coming from junior college. I didn't even think I was going to play that much. I just came here and worked hard every day, and good things happened."
My question is, what good things happened? We had one of the worst teams in memory. We lost a coach. Our probation got extended. Attendance was down -- way down. We got whipped by Vanderbilt. The season is over and you still can't get open half the time. Tell me Mr. Patterson, what good things happened?
I believe he was referring to his NFL draft stock.
in response to OLROCKYTOP: Gotta be the O-line. Bray owes them a debt of gratitude as does the whole team.
in response to OLROCKYTOP:
Gotta be the O-line. Bray owes them a debt of gratitude as does the whole team.
Absolutely. Bray doesn't put up all of those TDs and 300+ yard games without all of the time he had this year. Also solid improvement in run blocking.
Good to end the season on a positive note. It's going to be a long off season...again.
in response to asleep#212036: Of course, Paul Finebaum IS a self-appointed know-it-all who lures listeners (and sponsors) to his show by saying anything and everything he can to stir folks up. If I had a nickel for everything he "knew" that turned out to be just so much you-know-what, I could go a long way on DD's buyout. I agree that Gruden is not a realistic target and I have seen no proof that he can recruit/coach/handle college athletes. Not saying he can't but he never has so... I think Hart would be better served to look elsewhere. Go Vols!!!
in response to asleep#212036:
Of course, Paul Finebaum IS a self-appointed know-it-all who lures listeners (and sponsors) to his show by saying anything and everything he can to stir folks up. If I had a nickel for everything he "knew" that turned out to be just so much you-know-what, I could go a long way on DD's buyout. I agree that Gruden is not a realistic target and I have seen no proof that he can recruit/coach/handle college athletes. Not saying he can't but he never has so... I think Hart would be better served to look elsewhere. Go Vols!!!
I agree. Hart should focus his attention elsewhere. Gruden wants too much. We would basically have to hand him the keys to the AD office and allow him to do whatever he wanted. And the money that it will take to get him to come here just isn't worth the risk. Gruden's great on MNF was a great NFL coach, but that doesn't mean he'll be a great college coach. He doesn't deserve a Saban-level paycheck for coaching because he hasn't proved anything at the collegiate level, but that's exactly what he'll demand. In the end, it just isn't worth it.
in response to djohnnyg: Anyone else heard the Hart is talking with Bill Callahan-Off. Line coach Dallas Cowboys and former HC at Nebraska, as well as HC of the Raiders from 2002-2003?
in response to djohnnyg:
Anyone else heard the Hart is talking with Bill Callahan-Off. Line coach Dallas Cowboys and former HC at Nebraska, as well as HC of the Raiders from 2002-2003?
If Hart is talking to Bill Callahan, I hope they're exchanging cornbread dressing recipes, cause that hire wouldn't move the meter...at all.
in response to FWBVol: Hey pea brain, Everyone on this board knows the total disdain you have for Derek Dooley. You got your wish. He's gone now, and rightfully so. Even most of us that continued to support him through the tough times agree the decision to fire him was the only one that could be made. For Pete's sake, even his dad said there was good reason for him to be fired. Derek Dooley didn't win enough games, but he gave us his best and conducted himself with integrity while representing the University of Tennessee with class that all of us can be prould of. Too bad you can't show the same class. You are the real doofus and loser.
in response to FWBVol:
Hey pea brain,
Everyone on this board knows the total disdain you have for Derek Dooley. You got your wish. He's gone now, and rightfully so. Even most of us that continued to support him through the tough times agree the decision to fire him was the only one that could be made. For Pete's sake, even his dad said there was good reason for him to be fired.
Derek Dooley didn't win enough games, but he gave us his best and conducted himself with integrity while representing the University of Tennessee with class that all of us can be prould of.
Too bad you can't show the same class. You are the real doofus and loser.
+1
Some pretty classy folks on this board. I wonder how they'll fill their days now that there really isn't a need to come up with more clever "Dooleyisms" (ie Doofus, Dooloser, etc.)?
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I think you can stop beating the 4-19 drum now. He's gone.
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