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A lot of people give Mr. Adams a hard time for the articles he produces. He is unfairly berated by negative remarks, but he refuses to completely change the personality of his writing - I admire him for that and I also appreciate his efforts in not seeing things through 'rose-colored glasses'.
Adams is great at seeing things from different angles. He offers opinions and facts that, otherwise, may have never been realized.
The stories that are reported can not always be cheerful and revolve around a positive topic. The downside must be acknowledged and understood in order to fully appreciate the upside
Like him or not, when relating to sports news, the stories Adams delivers are very important to the bigger picture - specifically UT athletics.
"The Good, The Bad,...", "What's good for the goose...", "Can't have your cake and...", "What goes around..." ~
Lane Kiffin will not be coaching at USC in 2014
As a KNS reader, a UT fan, & a Tennesse sports fan in general, I feel that John Adams provides important viewpoints that would, otherwise, not be considered - even if it's not always what we want to read...
As far as KNS's online experience for users of touch format devices, I think optimizing the website design for ease of access and advaced features would be great... However...
... I sincerely hope the KNS's site designers and administrators do not make the mistake that others before them have made...
As they strive to create a more appealing experience for mobile, touch-based device users, they often create an end product that alienates desk-top and lap-top users. 'Robbing Peter to Pay Paul', if-you-will.
Hopefully they can create a balance that allows mobile device, desk-top, and lap-top users alike to have a great online experience.
Too many sites have made this erorr (hehe) and have reduced the overall quality of their customer's online experience. Maybe KNS will earn from other's past mistakes...
With assertions like, "Tennessee has done great to reach the Title Series, but OU is, by-far, the best team", many people were writing the Lady Vols off before the game even began.
Although the match went to OU, it proved that our Lady Vols can be not only competitive, but it confirmed they can beat OU in the series and bring the National Title home to Knoxville with them.
Go Lady Vols!!!
There is almost nothing a person can be involved with for only a short time that will remain with them throughout their lifetime. The select few who are able to find a place in such a society are incredibly fortunate.
20+ years after his time as a University of Tennessee Volunteer he is still a respected person who is embraced by, not only, the entire VolNation fanbase, but also by the opponents faced on the grid-iron.
These are the same people who are praying for his peace after death and that his family's strength is powerful enough to lead them into a life without Joey Chapman, but not a life without celebration for his time with them, as-well-as his time with all of us.
This is the answer to those who question, "What makes being a VFL so special?"... Above the support of family and through times of both crisis and accomplishment, all Vols-for-Life will have the support of the friends they made and fans they never even met during their time at the University of Tennessee.
in response to SevenT: No, actually Coach Saban can take a look at a players abilities and talent and find a position where the player can be successful at the D-1 level. Players switch positions often when they jump to the next level. Not saying Hurd won't do well at Running Back what I am saying is a winner wants to be on the field playing for the best teams. Hurd appears to be in love with himself and all the glory of playing running back even though he does not fit the mold or have the body. I will take Saban's assessment over Hurd's mother. Just Saying
in response to SevenT:
No, actually Coach Saban can take a look at a players abilities and talent and find a position where the player can be successful at the D-1 level. Players switch positions often when they jump to the next level. Not saying Hurd won't do well at Running Back what I am saying is a winner wants to be on the field playing for the best teams. Hurd appears to be in love with himself and all the glory of playing running back even though he does not fit the mold or have the body. I will take Saban's assessment over Hurd's mother.
Just Saying
Seems like a lot of people have forgotten that football is a game. Sure, some people get paid, whether it's academic scholarship credits or multi-million dollar professional contracts, nothing changes that fact.
People get involved in sports because they are a good way to develop ethics, morals, communication skills, confidence,team-work. and critical thinking. Beyond all they, at the foundation, sports are built on fun.
There are different positions on the field that accommodate all body types and skill sets.
Beyond that, the foundation of fun remains.
When a player finds and understands a position that captures their dedication and provides the highest level of fun, it's a let down to have someone tell you that you are being moved.
If, for any reason, you are moved to a new position mid-season, then a true team player will do whatever is required to help gain 'W's.
What would you do if you could choose a new team, one that allows you to continue playing the position you are passionate about, over a team that makes it known you will not play that position in college?
Would you go to the team that will allow you to play the position you love the most or go to the team who will not let you play that position?
I know which one I would choose... the one I have the most fun with and the one that I believe I am best at.
in response to PHAT_VOL: Remember a running back at Ohio St and played for the Titans and won a Hiesman. Thats right Eddie George. Check his size. Six Four and about 240. It can be done and its gonna be fun to watch AT THE HOME OF THE BIG ORANGE !!!!GO VOLS!!!
in response to PHAT_VOL:
Remember a running back at Ohio St and played for the Titans and won a Hiesman. Thats right Eddie George. Check his size. Six Four and about 240. It can be done and its gonna be fun to watch AT THE HOME OF THE BIG ORANGE !!!!GO VOLS!!!
Nice comment Phatty, I missed it and made a similar post above.
George was amazing. That makes it hard for me to understand why he is so easily forgotten and not compared to other taller backs, especially when the style of play and physical stature of the 2 athletes have so many incredible similarities.
(using whiffin' Kiffin's vocabulary = ickspecially when the style of play and physcal stature of the 2 athaleets has minnie incredibol simularities)
Hmm... It seems there are lots of people who question the potential success Hurd will have, based on his height. I know that is a valid concern with all tailbacks, but many of the critics are adamant that he will be unable to produce on the same level as the hype surrounding his talent and recruitment. Does anyone recall other 6'3.75" modern era tailbacks that experienced incredible success on the college and/or professional level? It seems that many people forget about the incredible talent of a former Heisman Trophy winner who stood 6'3"+ and had great success in the NFL. This player was also on a team our Volunteers played against (and beat) in a bowl game. Here's another clue to help you figure out the player's identity: His collegiate team is currently coached by Urban Meyer. If you haven't guessed it by now, I guess I should reveal the player: Eddie George. He was a beast! George's physical stature and running style is nearly identical to what we have been told and what we have seen from Jalen Hurd. I am not saying Hurd will win the Heisman hardware, but I do believe he has a mountain of potential that could eventually place the bronze statue of Ed Smith in his trophy case.
In reply to allvollego's statements.
The very first sentence in your post says:
- "I honestly just cannot agree with people saying that this move stinks"
In your next post, only a few minutes later, you say:
- "I agree it stinks, but there is a special place for those who want to be morally correct in this situation"
So..... which one is it?
I do not believe people are paying attention to Vandy because they are so much improved over their traditional teams. If Coach Johnson made the same comment, he would have received the same sort of backlash.
It is not because Vandy is on the rise, it is because the TENNESSEE VOLS are part of the topic!
in response to Pearlville: Just shows you how much KNS sports writer copy and paste their own info. This must have been part of an old RB position hire story and it somehow wasn't deleted as part of the actual RB position hire, Gillespie story. Simple, honest mistake. However, I'm a middle school teacher and this wouldn't be acceptable at that level. Ha!
in response to Pearlville:
Just shows you how much KNS sports writer copy and paste their own info.
This must have been part of an old RB position hire story and it somehow wasn't deleted as part of the actual RB position hire, Gillespie story.
Simple, honest mistake. However, I'm a middle school teacher and this wouldn't be acceptable at that level. Ha!
If you're teaching middle school, you are already providing knowledge on a higher level than what the media (local and national) use as a publishing guide... the ticker bar on the bottom of CNN/Fox/MSNBC, etc., is written on or below a 5th grade level and the scroll speed is also slowed way down... same thing for most national media, including Gannett - but not sure if KNS is still owned by them or not...
(I'm glad they do this, I'd never be able to understand anything on a 6th grade level or above!)
Go Vols!!!
in response to olecountryboy: Make a mistake of his recruiting in a earlier post. Gillespie got 10 commitments from fl this year. Got a DT, 3 WR's, 2 DE's, 2 RB's, 1 Ath, and a CB. All from Florida. Also was named 2012 Rivals RECRUITER of the year.
in response to olecountryboy:
Make a mistake of his recruiting in a earlier post. Gillespie got 10 commitments from fl this year. Got a DT, 3 WR's, 2 DE's, 2 RB's, 1 Ath, and a CB. All from Florida. Also was named 2012 Rivals RECRUITER of the year.
BINGO!!!
We Have A Ringer!!!
Go Vols!!
in response to Pearlville: "For more background on Spencer, including his role in the famous UT-Florida game in 2011, read Evan Woodbery's blog" What?????
"For more background on Spencer, including his role in the famous UT-Florida game in 2011, read Evan Woodbery's blog"
What?????
I guess that is meant for those who want to know more about the coaches we DIDN'T hire!
I agree AHOUSE... I do not recall it being standard procedure to delay the announcement of a hiring, especially an assistant/position coach.
I know the salary is not always available right away, but a delay in the hiring confirmation? Almost seems as if they are not squared away on the contract or Coach Graham is having some other issues we are unaware of.
I know a lot of people were disappointed in Graham's departure, but it may turn out to be a good direction to go.
The new UTK running backs Coach is respected on, at least, the same level as Coach Graham - with the edge of Tennessee's fan favor going to Graham as a former Volunteer's star.
Coach Gillespie, Welcome to Rocky Top!
In my opinion, which is obviously not properly honed in, I believe Coach Jones scored what will be a HUGE miss by not pursuing this great local talent.
Anyone who saw CAK play this year knows the talent Davis Howell possesses is on par or exceeds that of his team-mate Smith. If Josh Smith is worthy of a UT Scholarship, then Howell-III should have been approached too! When DHIII matures at Chattanooga, we'll see just how big this mistake will be.!
Good Luck Davis!
You can always tell when someone realizes they have lost an argument or fight when they begin to offer slander to their advesary and those associated with them.
When they see their enemy making strides in the right direction, where they can not find a way to slow their rise over them and to the top, they resort to typical behavior of someone afflicted with a fear. They fear the inevitable, their enemy will soon be better than they are and they can't change that fact.
They raise their voice and shout snide and foul remarks in a last ditch effort to create an illusion of present and future failure. They say these things as a projection of their greatest fears. That fear is knowing they are becoming mediocre and largely irrelevant. They say these things because they are in denial and projecting their own fears onto others gives them a false sense of control and security.
in response to signalcorps: Come on we should not have to pay to learn about these recruits,, these young recruits and parents coming to our site are not going to pay to learn about other players and recruits looking at the vols. your being a Hindrances,,,,any other school this would not be aloud GREED before the program,,,,,,print it all or print nothing....GO VOLS
in response to signalcorps:
Come on we should not have to pay to learn about these recruits,, these young recruits and parents coming to our site are not going to pay to learn about other players and recruits looking at the vols. your being a Hindrances,,,,any other school this would not be aloud GREED before the program,,,,,,print it all or print nothing....GO VOLS
I agree with you comepletely! I am a Vol supporter, I make my donations (although they are small), I pay for tickets, I buy officially licensed merchandise, I pay the outrageous prices @ the stadiums concessions, I even have the New-Sentinel delivered for the sports page.
I am disgusted to see the partnership with 247 in a way that requires fans, players, potnential fans, and potential players to open their wallets to learn about the program we support in all the traditional ways.
247 took the partnership with govols.com and trashed a source of UT athletics information.
The football program makes, by far, enough money to supplement the cost of running the website. They should supplement the membership fees and allow free membership to the site.
If 247 would like to continue being greedy in a scenario like that, let them be creative with advertising dollars - not fleecing longtime, loyal fans for whatever they can squeeze out of them.
Just another negative aspect that, when combined with coaching turmoil, losing seasons, and player controversy, adds to the reasons the University of Tennessee is shedding fans like a hillbilly mutt with mange shedding hair in the middle of an East Tennessee August.
for anyone who cares... please excuse my tyops in the posts above... I am on a smaller keyboard and forgot to spellcheck before posting...
...Con't
Well, tonight, even though he was not on the sideline, we got our first look at a Coach Jones product on the field in the Belk Bowl.
Cincinnati versus Duke is wrapping up as I type this. Cincinnati's interim HC, Coach Stripling, will be headed directly to Knoxville after the game, to assume his role on Tennessee's new staff.
Watching this game, I couldn't help but be impressed. The fact that they are operating on half a coaching staff and have done so since mid-December is impressive. Surely there is handicap in those conditions, but the Cincinnati players held their ground and performed well, in the face of an uncertain future.
While COach Jones was not there, the Belk Bowl showcased some of the assertions made by Coach Jones. The on-field product, delivered by Cincinnati tonight, seems to confirm Coach Jones' claims of an efficient and secure offense. That offense was accompanied by a defense that, not only creates turn-overs, but capitalizes on their opponents mistakes.
The Bearcats closed the scoring with an interception returned for a touchdown, putting an exclamation point on the assertions made by Coach Butch Jones when he first arrived in Knoxville. Whenever he can, he's says the same thing.
After watching Cincinnati claim a win in the Belk Bowl, beating an overachieving Duke team, I am left feeling great about Coach Jones and his coaching capabilities.
We will have to wait until next season before we can see our new-look Vols, but tonight we saw that our new Volunteers coach can back up his claims. It is settling to know he is not just giving a sales pitch, saying the things we want to hear.
Tonight we saw the product of what a real coach can give to young men. Without Coach Jones on the Cincinnati sideline, we can see that he truly changes these young men. The discipline and confidence he instilled into his players can be seen in their efforts on the field.
Having a coach who can turn young men into upstanding members of our community and the communities they call home later in life.
I like this guy and if he can back up his claims with results on and off the field, well I will certainly back him up as the right person to lead Tennessee and the young men who have committed themselves and their future to the Vols, as the place to catapult them into adulthood.
Go Big Orange!!!
Who is this guy? He's not a premier coaching name! Well Tennessee fans, looks like Hart did a Dooley 2.0. We'll back in this same position in 3 years, nice work Hart. Get ready for another several years of terrible football on Rocky Top!
Hmm, this guy seems better than I first thought. The more I watch this guy talk, the more I think the hire may not have been so terrible. The more I learn about Coach Jones, the more I think we may have backed into a good hire, but Hart still screwed it up.
Maybe Hart knew what he was doing! The more I see of CBJ, the more I like him. Tennessee may have made the best hire in all of college football this year! Maybe Hart knew exactly what he was doing!
These are all the things I remember reading and some of them are even things I felt myself. Oh, how times on Rocky Top can change so quickly. It is a short walk from the Castle to the phooey House... that also means it's a short walk back to the Castle...
As the days pass, it seems more likely that Coach Butch Jones and his staff could be the ones to leave the phooey House and hit the path back to the Castle!
We've heard Coach Jones talk about his philosophy, particularly his assertion that our next Volunteer team will be one that takes care of the ball, doesn't throw interceptions or fumble on offense and on defence, they'll be sound and will create turnovers.
Continued in next post...
Only top ranked teams stand a chance of finding a win in 'The Swamp'... who was the last team to beat UF in 'The Swamp'? =-)
Good lord, I must be half-way asleep! Forgive my terrible tyops... hopefully you can decipher the bad shpelling erorrs
Bray, Hunter, and Patterson, I hope you biys do great and find yourself in a life that is filled with love and true happiness, regardless of the direction your football careers take ach of you. Tennessee's Legend and History Books will both be better for having your names in them - Go Vols!!!
I know many of you here are longtime Volunteer fans and you already know what I am about to point out...
Tennessee Volunteer's football did not magically elevate to legendary status as a top 10 program in the record books and the teams financial value because Hunter, Bray, and Patterson were here.
UT Football reached this point by recruiting great talent and, more importantly, developing that talent to compete in the most dominate conference in the country.
We've all seen the careers of great receivers, running backs, quarterbacks, linemen, defensive backs, linebackers, D-linemen, come to an end in many different ways. Although the careers closed in a manner of ways, one thing remained a constant... 'How will we ever replace (Eric Berry, Reggie Cobb, Heath Shuler, Jermaine Copeland, Alber Haynesworth, Kelly Washington, Jamal Lewis, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc,etc,...)?
Although our Vols have been far below standards, the returning players and incoming freshmen have plenty of talent to contribute to Tennessee Football. In every position where a player is departing can be found an opportunity for a new player to realize his dreams.
The upcoming players, who we are not very familiar with, have talent and they want to prove themselves against the best players in the WORLD. Like the Volunteer team of generations past, I have complete confidence that we will see new stars begin to shine in the absence of those who have gone supernova.
The difference for the next edition of Vol Players is that they will start with a blank slate and a coach who has already excited a large majority of UT's fan base - and made our opponents do more than raise an eyebrow to see what's going on here in KnoxVegas.
If we give full support to our fellas in Orange, chances are we'll have the rest of the SEC trying to 'Keep Up with the Joneses' in the immediate future.
Hope you all have a Great Christmas on Rocky Top!!!
Welcome, Indeed... the resume highlights referenced in the article seem to reveal an experienced coach on several levels of FBS collegiate play and his stops all seem to be with teams who had success during his time with them.
Might be a great addition, considering the head-start he has from working previously on Coach Butch Jones' staff.
in response to yabadabadoo1026: that cant be serious----has to be someones idea of a realllllll bad joke
in response to yabadabadoo1026:
that cant be serious----has to be someones idea of a realllllll bad joke
Haha, it could be a joke, or... you know the ESPN commercials, where the mascots are just hanging out around the office, or NASCAR drivers are walking around in their speed suits?
Well, I guess this comes from when a Tennessee Football player gets cast in the role of Darth Vader, in a Star Wars play.
I might change the uniforms, but not much at all.. I might make the stripes on the pants a little thinner, but no major changes... outline the helmet T with a thin white line and then a thin orange line, but probably not... I'm not sure if I'd like to see one of the new era fashion uniforms worn once a year, or if I'd like to see them stay firmly within the bounds of Tennessee uniform tradition
Just for kicks, have a look at this all black UT Volunters helmet, with a glossy black Power-T and a flat black base.
http://www.lostlettermen.com/vols-to-...
http://loserswithsocks.com/pics-helme...
is this the new helmet you are referencing?
Tennessee Volunteers will NEVER change their uniform - as evidenced in the struggle to wear the black jerseys on Halloween. That was very close to not happening.
The only change we might ever see would be the incorporation of another, not so well-known school color. It was worn in only a handful of years, long ago. It was blue.
There have been discussions about the design of a 'phantasm' uniform that would be worn in only 1 home game per season. It is a very dramatic design and, in my opinion, looks better than any other 'combat' designs I've seen in college football. Even better than the Oregon Uniforms I've seen (admittedly, I haven't seen all their uniforms, it's unlikely anyone has, lol)
Ideas for an all orange helmet, with a white 'Power-T' have been talked about, as have ideas for a blue helmet, jersey, pants, Orange 'Power-T' on the helmet, with two white stripes flanking an orange strip down the middle. The jersey, pants, and tights would have similar orange and white inclusions.
They look incredible, but they will probably never make it onto the field... unless it is an anniversary type of deal... otherwise, Tennessee tradition will not allow the change.
Like many Vols, when I first realized that Butch Jones would be announced as the new head coach - not just a rumor- I was kinda let down. Not because Jones is a terrible coach (I knew little about him when his name surfaced), but that's because I thought we would be hiring a legendary, household name for our next coach.
As the hours passed on the day he was announced UT's HHead Coach, I began to learn more about him and I was liking what I was learning. By the next day, I had gone from the frustration felt because I thought we made another Dooley hire + the public embarrassment of being turned down by other coaches, to feeling excitement. Excitement that accompanied the realization that we may have just made an off-the-radar hire of a much better coach than any other college this post-season.
It's also great to see other Vol fans becoming more supportive, as they learn more about our new coach by watching some of his previous teams play, seeing how his players respect him, and by the way he presents himself to the players, fans and media.
I'm sure you've heard, "Whether you think you can, or whether you think you can't... you're right!" There have been people bashing his assertion that he would assemble America's best coaching staff. Most everyone does not believe he has hired the Nation's #1 staff, but as long as the staff, the players, and Coach Jones believe it... they might just turn out to be among the upper echelon of today's top programs.
If Coach Jones, his staff, and his players can continue to gain momentum heading into next season, we might have a level of pre-season anticipation and excitement like we have been missing for a long time!
Good Lord, if you're listening, wrench us from this pit of total ignorance that seems to be flowing from all of our minds (including me) on this board
I am trying to remember it... judge not, lest ye be judged - and because of football...
Glad we have Coach Jones for the players... now if we can get Hart to hire Dr. Phil for the fans...
in response to budd#207344: The simple fact is that the QB who everybody names their kids after couldn't match T with his NC ring.He can't even out do his younger brother. You are right there is nothing more ignorant than racism or bigotry. especially when it gets spewed out because some 50 yr old fat white guy didn't get his way and a black guy made a decision for he and his family. If the only color you care about is Orange then you should be as angry and embarrassed as I am over the comments based on T's decision. If you aren't then you need to think about that
in response to budd#207344:
The simple fact is that the QB who everybody names their kids after couldn't match T with his NC ring.He can't even out do his younger brother. You are right there is nothing more ignorant than racism or bigotry. especially when it gets spewed out because some 50 yr old fat white guy didn't get his way and a black guy made a decision for he and his family. If the only color you care about is Orange then you should be as angry and embarrassed as I am over the comments based on T's decision. If you aren't then you need to think about that
You, my good man, are a genius!...
"You are right there is nothing more ignorant than racism or bigotry...
...spewed out because some 50 yr old fat white guy..."
is it only racist when it is against someone other than a white person? sheesh...
in response to GerryOP: Tee Martin? Naaw, he really wasn't all that good. All he did was lead the '98 Vols to a undefeated season and the 1st BCS Championship! That's all ... it happens every day around college football. Right? Prior to Tee, when was the last time it happened at UT? Since Tee, how many times has it happened at UT? Naaaw, undefeated championship seasons are not that much of a big deal... not much at all. I'll admit, he had a little help from a guy named Wilson ... Al Wilson. Those two guys put that team on their backs and literally demanded that they win. And the team did win ... 1998 Undefeated National Champions. Tee and Big Al did it.
in response to GerryOP:
Tee Martin? Naaw, he really wasn't all that good. All he did was lead the '98 Vols to a undefeated season and the 1st BCS Championship! That's all ... it happens every day around college football. Right?
Prior to Tee, when was the last time it happened at UT? Since Tee, how many times has it happened at UT? Naaaw, undefeated championship seasons are not that much of a big deal... not much at all.
I'll admit, he had a little help from a guy named Wilson ... Al Wilson. Those two guys put that team on their backs and literally demanded that they win. And the team did win ... 1998 Undefeated National Champions. Tee and Big Al did it.
Tee wasn't the only person on the field during the '98 season... the talent pool was so deep at that time a mediocre qb could have led the Vols to a nearly unblemished season.
He was better than mediocre and made some big plays, but he was not better than the best to wear the Orange and White.
Defence won that Title... 'Stoerner Stumble' anyone?
in response to TheEffect: It's not all bad. He was a good recruiter at Kentucky, but a terrible receivers coach. He was once asked about how to improve his receivers performance, and his reply was "I don't know...I never played the position!".
in response to TheEffect:
It's not all bad. He was a good recruiter at Kentucky, but a terrible receivers coach. He was once asked about how to improve his receivers performance, and his reply was "I don't know...I never played the position!".
Yeah... maybe Tee should try to be a QB coach instead of WR... instead of coaching his wr's on how to be better wr's, he taught them how to play quarterback instead... he coached one of his wide-receivers into a quarterback that beat the Vols!!!
That might also explain why the UK receivers were not that great!
just messing around a little, don't take me too seriously about this...
He's gonna do the same thing he did at UT during his playing days... Wait...
He is gonna sit back and wait, let another coach get things going. Then, when UT is built back into a top 20 program, with solid talent, and great potential, he'll slide in on the coat tails of a graduating coach (coach gets hired away for his success here) and fill the role. If he plays his cards just right, maybe he can get a lot of credit for coaching UT during a Chmpionship run in the SEC and hopefully the NatCha - maybe he'll even appear to be a main reason for the success, nevermind the ground work laid beforehand.
Haha, just kidding Tee, I couldn't resist. You'll do fine where ever you are.
After looking at his current situation and the current situation at UT, I think now would be a great time for him to stay away. His wife's a singer, they're in LA... had he convinced her to come here, we may have seen a nasty soap opera played out in Knoxville...
I am intent on blaming it on her, since Tee can do no wrong! If it isn't her singing, then it must be his baby's mamma! Maybe she didn't like the prospect of Tee having regular, face-to-face contact with her - a little jealousy maybe? If that were the situation and it blew up, it would be a distracting mess.
Now, the reason he didn't come here probably has nothing to do with what I posted above. I am just re-hashing what I've heard from a few talking heads.
However, if those potential distractions do carry weight, they are the last thing we need here, as Coach Jones works on the rebuild.
The least amount of problems and distractions are the best and a NC Vol may carry inate distractions, simply because of their background here.
I hope we return to a National Champ contender, our '98 Vols do know what it feels like, but bringing them back at the wrong time may cause issues for the truly 'Fresh Start' I think we all want.
Maybe a few years down the road, depending on success, would be a better time to call our alums home.
Also wanted to add... Tee has children with this woman and they are obviously married. I don't know for how long, but it seems they have been together more than 4-5 years? If that is the case, then they were living in Kentucky not too long ago.
Her career with music may not hinge on LA. Although the is a mom, a lot of singers are mom's and they don't just 'raise babies'.
Also, being a singer doesn't mean that is her only talent. Many times singers have multi-talents in the music industry. Writer, producer, manager, etc. are just a few things she probably has the talent to work with. That still leads me to believe all those things can be accomplished in Nashville or Atlanta as easy as LA... in Atlanta, maybe even more-so.
It would be awesome this return become reality. It's time our National Champion alums come home and put Tennessee back on the level they took us to. Those alums hate to see their University as a shell of what they spilled sweat and blood to build.
Only reason I see Coach Tee Martin remaining in LA is his wife, the fact that she's an entertainer and LA is a Mecca for entertainers. Hopefully she will support Martin if this is what he wants to do... not too far from Nashville or Atlanta and she can chase her star from either of those 2 places, just as well as she can in Los Angeles.
A lot of skeptical Vol fans at first, probably because of the deflation from not scoring the household name coach - you know, the one who has no college history, or the others who used our Vols as a springboard to a pay increase.
After learning a bit about this guy, I decided to give my full support, and remain cautious...
After seeing this guy interact with our Volunteers, I decided to be optimistic...
After seeing him address the media, the fans, and after learning a bit more about his history, he took away the decision - it's replaced with anxiety - the good kind.
If Coach Jones remains consistant with his attitude and philosophy, I think we all have reason to be anxious about the newest edition of our VOLS!!
Anxious, as in; Spending 6 months learning kung-fu and being so anxious and excited about whipping the bully down the street the very next time he picks on you, you can hardly wait!
I hope everyone of you who have ever followed the VOLS, or have called yourself a Big Orange fan, get the same impression and feeling about this guy.
It is more than optimism and, while I can't put my finger on exactly what it is, he has something that's been missing on Rocky Top for some time.
I waited all off-season, with crossed fingers, hoping the 2012 Vols would be great. There was a feeling of confidence and excitement, after the N.C. State game, that had been missing for a while.
The electricity in the days leading up the the Florida game was incredible. The atmosphere on campus, Gameday, and in Neyland Stadium was on the level of something we have missed for some time now.
All Vols had the feeling that our 2012 Vols would be a break-out group - but that flame was quickly extinguished.
I am beginning to have those same great feelings for next year's Vols - and have yet to even see his staff!
I hope I am not the only Volunteer who is getting this impression! I like it and can't wait to see what is unveiled in 2013!
I had to wait until '12 Vols played a couple games before I felt the excitement, but not with this guy. He is bringing something here that is exciting.
I hope it continues to grow until the season kicks off and we can see what he's down with our guys in Orange!
Infallible? I hope he truly believes it!
I am simply a UT fan, nothing more, but since UT is his dream job and he seems to have a passion for this University, I will grant him his wish.
I will support him unconditionally and base my opinion solely on his results - on the field and off.
I hope all true Vols will give this man the benefit he has asked from you.
Give him what he wants from the fans, opine over results only and he will give us what we want - a return to Elite Status as a Perennial Power in the SEC!
Butch Davis? sheesh... the grace period for learning and remembering the name of new Vols coach ends at midnight.
Everyone should realize his name is Butch JONES by the morning.
Glad to have you Coach Jones!
UT will be giving some bloody noses and fat lips to the SEC rivals next year, best part? They don't even see it coming!
in response to Fall_Creek_Vols: If we aren't (and I don't think we will be), can we count on YOU to shut YOUR pie hole? Why not? Oh, so you ARE a fair-weather fan. OK, I get it.
in response to Fall_Creek_Vols:
If we aren't (and I don't think we will be), can we count on YOU to shut YOUR pie hole?
Why not?
Oh, so you ARE a fair-weather fan. OK, I get it.
@chrisvol...
'DON'T be surprised if we AREN'T back in the same situation in 3 year'
Why would anyone be surprised to NOT be in this same situation in 3 years?
I think the whole idea in replacing Dooley was done so we would not be in the same situation in 3 years. We hire a coach to improve the program. So, if we are NOT in the same situation in 3 years, the hiring accomplished exactly what we want.
We are planning to be better in 3 years and no one should be surprised to be better then than we are now...
sheesh...
"DON'T be surprised IF WE AREN'T back in the same situation..."...
OK, I WON'T be surprised if we AREN'T in the same situation in a few years, since that's precisely where I expect the Vols to be - Not in the same situation we are in now...
Maybe he did it to protect UT or to make sure he has the UT HC job when he retired from NFL... Hopefully Butch is successful here. Make no mistake, if he isn't a success after 3-5 years, the next Volunteer Coach will be... you got it, Peyton Manning!
Wish that I was on ole rocky top, Down in the tennessee hills. Ain't no smoggy smoke on rocky top,(some say- Ain't no telephone bills. -smog or Smoke)
Once there was a girl on rocky top, Half bear the other half cat. Wild as a mink, sweet as soda pop, I still dream about that.
Rocky top, you'll always be Home sweet home to me. Good ole rocky top, Rocky top tennessee, rocky top tennessee.
Once two strangers climbed on rocky top, Lookin' for a moonshine still. Strangers ain't come back from rocky top, Guess they never will.
Corn won't grow at all on rocky top, Dirt's too rocky by far. That's why all the folks on rocky top Get their corn from a jar.
Now I've had years of cramped up city life, Trapped like a duck in a pen. Now all I know is it's a pity life Can't be simple again.
Rocky top tennessee, rocky top tennessee. Yeah rocky top tennesee eee eee eee.
thanks for the compliment on my reply's construction!
The more I learn about this guy, the more I think he is a great choice for UT. He may be a real sleeper.
Hopefully, minus the NCAA infractions/violations, Coach Butch can deliver early results similar to the former BMOC, Vols' Coach Bruce...
Coach BruceCoach Butch... A different sport and AD, but a very similar coaching search that landed Dooley.
Hopefully Coach Butch will be Hart's Pearl - without the NCAA issues! Had Pearl remained, it's very possible the BBVols contend for a Nat. Champ. this year. I have faith in Marting though...
Anyway...
Continued from previous post...
Intensity, Passion, Ambition, and a REAL desire to be a part of the Big Orange Nation are all attributes used to describe Butch Jones. He's made the right decisions to put himself in line to be UT's next HBC, that's a feat in itself. We deserve a coach who wants to be here and who has all those attributes.
Installing the proper staff around him will help decide the level of potential success for his version of the Vols. He may even be able to bring back some of the electric players from the 2012 Vols, that would instantly convert some skeptic Vols - (I've included that on my Christmas wish list too - Patterson, Bray, Hunter, & the other ProVol prospects)
Our new coach knows what we expect on RockyTop. I am certain we will get the best team BJ can produce. It's his career, his legacy, and his 'once-in-a-lifetime' career opportunity to coach on the biggest stage in his profession, on a scholastic level.
I know we will get EVERYTHING he has to give, I just don't know if that will be enough for UT to return to it's perch as a perennial power in the SEC.
These facts about our new coach are why I am now behind him 100%. I'm going to do my part to help create an atmosphere conducive to success in the SEC, athletically & academically - I hope you will put away any apprehension you may have about this hire and join me in doing our part to help create a new atmosphere in Knoxville.
Together, we can build this atmosphere where support for our Tennessee Vol coaches and players can easily be found around every corner and in every living room. An atmosphere where winning big-time games is once again the standard rule for our Men (& of-course, Women!) in Orange.
We can re-define our Volunteer Pride! We have the ability, as fans, to roll up our sleeves and give our unconditional support for the new coaches.
More importantly, we can give our unconditional support to the young men who give us everything they have so Neyland Stadium can be @ capacity... so they can entertain the fans with shocking, world-class performances... so they can become among the greatest collegiate athletes in the entire world... and, obviously, so they can chase their dream of being among the best professional athletes or scholars the United States has to offer.
Generally, they deserve every ounce of support we can deliver & we deserve nothing less than every scrap of physical and mental effort they can produce!
His name isn't Saban, Gundy, Strong, Tressel, Coker, Carroll, or Gruden, but if our new Head Coach delivers the success demanded by UT fans and documented in traditional records, we may just find the rest of the College Football Nation doing their best to 'Keep up with the Jones'...
* - "Give!... Him!... Six!... - years and $18,000,000"
* - Give us everything you've got Coach Jones, seize your Rings, & earn yourself a street name on Campus!!
[_-`~;~`-_] Go Big Orange!!! [_-`~;~`-_]
There are some great points made by the fans who, both, agree and disagree with the hire.
If I could have a more experienced, high-profile, elite SEC coach, I would. This is not what we got, but we can be successful with Coach Jones. It leaves many unanswered questions, the same questions that may have been answered immediately by a different caliber hire.
I know there are probably many others who, like me, are so tired of the incompetence displayed in the UT Athletic Dept, tired of being the butt (no-pun intentionally intended, hehe) of jokes in the SEC and National CFB landscape. It's not because I want people to stop cracking wise about the incompetence of the most recent Vol squads - that happens no matter how much success, or lack thereof, is achieved in our Athletic and Academic Depts., respectively. I would be more worried if the jokes stopped completely, like when someone says, "Don't worry, I'm only hard on you because I care." Most of us are tired of the incompetence because we know it fuels all the prodding and jokes with truth.
I think many are irritated with this hire because it does not deliver instant gratification, it doesn't instantly make our rivals say, 'Well, the days of running over the Vols are over now that they have - insert elite coach name here (Coker, Tressel, Carroll, etc.)
I wanted to have that premier coaching hire too. I wanted that trophy coach to show off to the other schools in the SEC, to make a statement that UT-K belongs in the upper echelon of the SEC. I wanted them to be jealous of the hire. I wanted the current players to see this cosmic hire and, instantly, realize their only choice is to return for a Senior year and play for this incredible coach, even if only for 1 year - because, literally, they may never have such an opportunity again - ever.
This coaching search sparked the imagination of Volunteer fans around the world. It opened the door for the possibility of making a statement on a national level. It provided an opportunity to prove that we are still Elite and deserve our place in the Top 10 Most Successful CFB Programs.
Obviously, we didn't make that paradigm shifting hire. In waters filled with tsunamis, this hire makes no instant waves.
So we don't get the instant gratification that may have made Christmas on Rocky Top a little more exciting and a little more Orange. We do get something and it isn't a consolation prize, even though it may appear that way.
Continued in my next post, if you'd like to read the rest....
I have to say... he sounds great at the live press conference. Seems genuine and not going off a script. I like this aspect, hopefully his sincerity is real and not a "tell'em what they wanna' hear" strategy!
I am amazed at how many people are oblivous to the fact they are not even using our new coach's name!
In this column alone, I have noticed several different people addressing our new coach as Coach Davis or Coach Butch Davis...
I wonder how many people realize that Butch Davis and UTK's new coach - Coach Butch Jones - are not the same person? The only thing they have in common is their 1st name...
I do wonder how many people think we hired the former NC coach, Butch Davis? I bet there are quite a few who think Davis left NC and went to Cincy, where we hired him from.
Easy mistake, I admit, but come on! Calling him Davis and/or assuming Jones is Davis just shows that those commenting have not even looked at this guys resume...
Some people bashing the hire do not care to look at his resume... they are convinced anything other than Gruden/Petrino/etc. is a fail and, instead of doing their due diligence, they commence to bashing the terrible hire.
I suppose the same whiners would do it no matter who was hired, if it weren't Gruden or any other common football household name
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